bentnotbroken Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 im a CPA... I dont know why either of them stay in the marriage... at this point and so far into our relationship and family Ive given up on letting it be something I focus on... if he/she leaves the marriage they do, if they dont they dont, either way the relationship as it is now, is minimal of what it will be. Is that one of the "several" degrees you hold? Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 May 29, 2009 In some of your post you talk about the donkey MM living in a different state, and others how you wanted him to take kids to his home with the nannies. And got all excited when he did take one to his home. and in this tread she lives a few miles away from him. Like I said, she should read what she wrote before she starts a new thread. Link to post Share on other sites
georgia girl Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Okay, now I'm confused. I thought she was teacher and that was why she could take off to go to Hawaii? Then, she was a stay-at-home mom (which is totally understandable with four kids at home, one who uses a wheelchair and needs a catheter and two under three years old). Now, she's a CPA? Plus, I'm all confused about how many children there are. My thought was two now and one on the way, plus one from a prior marriage. Is this correct? Also, haven't read the old threads but also thought they lived very closely to each other. NoContact2, can you clear this up? I actually do not believe you're lying or inventing things (I think you're horribly deluded about the realities of your relationship), but not necessarily lying about the facts of your situation. I just think in the rush to get to the emotional issues, you move way too quickly over the factual scenerio so people can't follow. Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 O NoContact2, can you clear this up? I actually do not believe you're lying or inventing things (I think you're horribly deluded about the realities of your relationship), but not necessarily lying about the facts of your situation. I just think in the rush to get to the emotional issues, you move way too quickly over the factual scenerio so people can't follow. I would hope that a mother would know where she lives and how many children she has no matter how emotional she was. These are simple basic facts that she can't seem to get straight. Where is she now? She was posting and now she is gone. Do you think Dexter has anything to do with her disappearance? Link to post Share on other sites
TogetherForever Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 I would hope that a mother would know where she lives and how many children she has no matter how emotional she was. These are simple basic facts that she can't seem to get straight. Where is she now? She was posting and now she is gone. Do you think Dexter has anything to do with her disappearance? I hope that's why the op hasn't come back to clear things up. Link to post Share on other sites
norajane Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 I'm really curious how you went from this at the end of May, to being all happy and content now: our private agreement is in paper. his wife and other children know about us. not worried he will cut off any support. this isnt a money issue its a lack of physical and emotional involvement with his children and me. i cant do it anymore... i just cant. then to say he doesnt love them. then turn around and call me late last night and tell me, oh well, i do love them just not the way you want me too.' *** him! im not going to help him sleep better! hes selfish and not moral at all! he wants to say he loves his wife and family...he loyal...good...go be with them...quit calling me. dont text me, dont want to see us... leave us alone. and in 1 eek, 1 month, 1 year, 10 year....whatever you have a huge gaping hole in your heart and your children want nothing to do with you and dont know you buy a mirror sweetheart! Hes always taken good care of the kids, we have a personal written agreement between us. He doesnt want to go to attorneys. In all these years he has never not supported the children. i dont know if I could take him back after he told me he doesnt love me or the kids he only cares for us. Telling me that is one thing, but saying that about our children...i dont know i can forgive??? thats the straw that broke my heart and I told him never contact me again... i went through those circumstances in my other thread Link to post Share on other sites
Devil Inside Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 This thread is a mess. Man! OP..seriously...what is the deal? Link to post Share on other sites
Thornton Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 She didnt fight for him, get upset, seem surprised, nothing??????? Does that mean she is emotionally dead in the marriage??? Then why stay married? kids are all grown and gone? His wife didn't fight for him because she doesn't want him, she wants his money and status. She doesn't care if he doesn't love her because she's getting something else out of the marriage apart from love, i.e. money and status. She stays married even though the kids are grown and gone, not because she loves him, but because he's rich. He probably stays with her for the sake of appearances, or perhaps she fits his image better than you would - if, as you said, he's a public figure, then she's probably a more respectable wife for a public figure to have. They're both getting something out of the marriage, and neither of them has a reason to divorce - you're wasting your time waiting for him to divorce, because he never will. Link to post Share on other sites
fooled once Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 I thought she said she had an attorney on retainer? I thought she said all these legal papers had been drawn up for him to support her/the kids forever? And why is she so caught up in the Wife? Obviously the wife isn't leaving -- she has the man, the marriage, the money, the name, the HISTORY. OP has only been with him 3 years or so -- she said one kid for evey year We all know she only called the wife when she was in labor to push the wife's buttons - to get the wife to leave the man so she could have him. But, it backfired -- wife didn't leave and wife isn't going to leave. If she does, she will expose her H for the lying piece of crap he is. AND she will come out smelling like roses; where as the OW will be called every name in the book. The OP is so caught up in the outrage of "why didn't she leave him when I told her everything" -- it pisses her off she has stayed. I have no doubt she taunts her with phone calls and all kinds of other stuff. She is only having kids because she thinks this will make the MM love her. What she fails to realize, IMHO, is he DOESN'T LOVE her, he just likes the sex and I would bet he has another woman on the side (at least one) and who knows if he has kids with her. He may have kids all over the place. OP - you say you are so happy -- so good for ya. I will bet in time, you will realize this ISN'T the life you want; not even a part time man. He will tire of you and want someone younger, without all those kids. My heart breaks for your kids and the dysfunction that is their life now Link to post Share on other sites
bentnotbroken Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 I thought she said she had an attorney on retainer? I thought she said all these legal papers had been drawn up for him to support her/the kids forever? And why is she so caught up in the Wife? Obviously the wife isn't leaving -- she has the man, the marriage, the money, the name, the HISTORY. OP has only been with him 3 years or so -- she said one kid for evey year We all know she only called the wife when she was in labor to push the wife's buttons - to get the wife to leave the man so she could have him. But, it backfired -- wife didn't leave and wife isn't going to leave. If she does, she will expose her H for the lying piece of crap he is. AND she will come out smelling like roses; where as the OW will be called every name in the book. The OP is so caught up in the outrage of "why didn't she leave him when I told her everything" -- it pisses her off she has stayed. I have no doubt she taunts her with phone calls and all kinds of other stuff. She is only having kids because she thinks this will make the MM love her. What she fails to realize, IMHO, is he DOESN'T LOVE her, he just likes the sex and I would bet he has another woman on the side (at least one) and who knows if he has kids with her. He may have kids all over the place. OP - you say you are so happy -- so good for ya. I will bet in time, you will realize this ISN'T the life you want; not even a part time man. He will tire of you and want someone younger, without all those kids. My heart breaks for your kids and the dysfunction that is their life now No in her original posts she said that she has been with him 6 years. Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Yeah something is kind of not adding up.. Is this guy is famous already or in the public eye, don't ya think SOMEONE would have 'seen' him with another woman, with kids in tow? Gossip online or in some trash magazine? Another thing, it wasn't too long ago NC2 was going to SUE her MM, yet it wasn't about the money.. There are afew other threads that contradict as well.. Anyway, it is what it is. Accept it NC2 and live your life. Link to post Share on other sites
donnamaybe Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 i have nannies to help because our children our so young and i have an older child with neurotube defect that is paralyzed from waist down and in a wheelchair. And these children are all actors and models? Um, okay. Link to post Share on other sites
donnamaybe Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 my 1st two children are not his...i was married for nearly a decade, faithful and divorced before meeting my MM. Okay, either your actor/model children are all very young or they are over 10 years old. You can't have it both ways. I call BS on this ENTIRE novella. Link to post Share on other sites
donnamaybe Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 its not in his family morals/religion/etc. to divorce once married. So, whatever the real reason(s) may be it (after all this time) really doesnt matter. But it's his family "morals" to go about screwing other women and fathering children with them? Link to post Share on other sites
PhoenixRise Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 The OP is so caught up in the outrage of "why didn't she leave him when I told her everything" -- it pisses her off she has stayed. What she fails to realize, IMHO, is he DOESN'T LOVE her, he just likes the sex and I would bet he has another woman on the side (at least one) and who knows if he has kids with her. He may have kids all over the place. If any of this is even real considering the inconsistencies.... I would say that what is really blowing the OP's mind.....is that she doesn't matter. OP can not believe that she does not matter to the wife. She can call her from the delivery room....it won't matter...She can have a baby every year from now until her eggs dry up....it won't matter....She can make phone calls, send flowers to MM's mother, etc....it won't matter....nothing she does matters...to the wife, OP does not matter. If OP is telling the truth and there have been other OW, then the wife has seen OW come and go and none of it affects her. She is probaly one of thoese old school wives who believes that husbands just cheat and that is the way it is...and as long as he is taking care of home, nothing else matters. Frankly, I think OP better hope that she continues to not matter to the wife if she wants to keep her relationship with MM. Link to post Share on other sites
donnamaybe Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Nocontact, Congratulations on your baby. I'm not sure why you come here though. People here seem to just attack you and dislike you. I think what you are doing is wonderful, in the sense that you get to be with the man you love, that you were able to have many children with him, and that he is providing for all you you (which is very difficult nowadays to find). I think what you have is pretty happy, at least the times he spends in your house are family like, I can see that. Hopefully he'll stay with you for the long run, and who knows, maybe you'll get married. As expected. :lmao: Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 24, 2009 Author Share Posted September 24, 2009 clear a few more things up 1. I do have children to feed and take care of so I had to stop posting and be a mother I didnt run off anywhere 2. yes, i have had posts that i've been emotionally very upset with MM and my situation. As I think most will agree these relationships are like roller coasters emotionally, especially when pregnant. 3. I have 5 total children, he is father of youngest...but I dont give too many specific details as I think there is a such thing as too much information to be able to remain a screen name and not public. 4. I dont continually contact his wife. Why would I? She knows the truth...she doesn't care...so my guilt as OW is gone. It matters not to me if she stays or leaves at this point. I wouldnt stay if I was her, but thats just me. 5. Financially, legally we are provided for...above and beyond. His children will never suffer or be without financially. So its not about money. 6. My only real issue is that since children are getting old enough to ask for daddy that he has to make some concessions to emotionally be daddy physically not just financially of which he is trying to do and making the effort and I see the change. 7. I never said, that i recall, he lived out of state. I said he travels out of state for work all the time...I dont believe I have ever said what state we live in as that is too much information. any other questions??? Also, thank you to Ariadne for the support and positive outlook on the relationship is very kind of you. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 24, 2009 Author Share Posted September 24, 2009 And these children are all actors and models? Um, okay. yes, there are commercials/print that have disabled children in them. There is nothing wrong with him mentally he is just paralyzed from the waist down. Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 to clear up a few things...my labor for our children were all c-sections, so when i called it was very early in labor...i was in hours of excruciating pain, panting, sweating, etc. 2ndly, i have nannies to help because our children our so young and i have an older child with neurotube defect that is paralyzed from waist down and in a wheelchair. So, I have to have help during day and I have to have someone here at night in case I go into early labor to leave the children with. I am not sitting in a mansion with maids and nannies while I play housewife of OC or Atlanta or whatever you call it. I get my hands dirty everyday, change diapers, handle teething, spit up, run errands, pay all bills, basically run the entire house. Yes, he financially provides for the support of the home, but I do the work. So, when he is here he is a wonderful father and wonderful partner. When he is not here my day is full of what most women who stay at home with 5 children (3 in school) and pregnant do...whatever the childrens needs are...appointments, homework, baths, reading, etc. My life does have a sense of normalcy to it. If I was married to him he would still spend 80% of his time working...that what he does. But, I wouldnt trade him for some random goddlooking 25 year old to warm my bed at night that is just another child for me to raise.... I dont need another man to raise and there are entirely too many men out there that want just that... You mean to tell me you are this busy and you still have time to worry about what his wife is doing and thinking? You never did answer as to why you are so obsessed about what his wife thinks and does. Why? If you are so happy what does it matter to you? I wouldn't have cared if I had had 60 hours of labor without an ounce of pain, my thoughts would have been on my baby not on what my MM's wife is doing and trying to update her on anything. This woman obviously knows you are very jealous of her and doesn't view you as any kind of a threat. She probably pities you for having all those kids and her husband still hasn't left you for her. And, as far as all those young guys who want to step in and be your babies' Daddy, don't believe them. If you were to be serious about some guy coming in and being the father to 5 kids that belong to some MM it's highly unlikely that will happen. Your affair partner already knows this and knows you aren't going anywhere. Norajane found you out though didn't she? Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 24, 2009 Author Share Posted September 24, 2009 Okay, either your actor/model children are all very young or they are over 10 years old. You can't have it both ways. I call BS on this ENTIRE novella. My children range in middle school age to infants...so yes, it is the truth... Link to post Share on other sites
donnamaybe Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 News flash: Some people live in a fantasy world. I wouldn't be too hyped up about any kind of support. You have way too many inconsistencies, as have been very effectively pointed out. I think this is a story out of thin air. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 24, 2009 Author Share Posted September 24, 2009 But it's his family "morals" to go about screwing other women and fathering children with them? I have no answer for his mind...or his actions... Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 She probably pities you for having all those kids and her husband still hasn't left you for her. Meant to say: She probably pities you for having all those kids and her husband still hasn't left her for you. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 24, 2009 Author Share Posted September 24, 2009 You mean to tell me you are this busy and you still have time to worry about what his wife is doing and thinking? You never did answer as to why you are so obsessed about what his wife thinks and does. Why? If you are so happy what does it matter to you? I wouldn't have cared if I had had 60 hours of labor without an ounce of pain, my thoughts would have been on my baby not on what my MM's wife is doing and trying to update her on anything. This woman obviously knows you are very jealous of her and doesn't view you as any kind of a threat. She probably pities you for having all those kids and her husband still hasn't left you for her. And, as far as all those young guys who want to step in and be your babies' Daddy, don't believe them. If you were to be serious about some guy coming in and being the father to 5 kids that belong to some MM it's highly unlikely that will happen. Your affair partner already knows this and knows you aren't going anywhere. Norajane found you out though didn't she? not sure about your last sentence...If she did I dont guess it made any difference... I mean his entire family knows of us so we are not a huge secret in his primary residence...and if she did know who my MM is then she knows my relationship and financially is no way BS**T. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 24, 2009 Author Share Posted September 24, 2009 Meant to say: She probably pities you for having all those kids and her husband still hasn't left her for you. She doesnt pity me, actually she hates me...per MM, I am not on her "A" list. Well, she's not on mine so it doesnt matter to me. Since she knows I feel sense of freedom from any GUILT of being longtime OW. BS want truth, I gave it to her, with option of calling with any further questions if she would like... So, I'm not lying to him or her... they live their relationship....him and I live ours... Thats how our lives are...for now Link to post Share on other sites
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