Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 thank you for telling me no one here can help me... i just wanted help getting through no contact with him and endng it! Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Yes his wife has class and plenty of it. If she didn't she would have made your life miserable by now. She also has power and money because what he has belongs to her. It is stupid and unrealistic to expect her to open you and your kids with open arms. (Maybe you should live in Utah). What makes you think her grown children want to get to know your little kids. Not only is it a reminder of how their father betrayed their precious mother and them but with the age differences, what would they have in common except a rat's blood running through their veins. You act as if you want you all to be one big happy family and get together every Sunday for dinner at their house. Lady, please get some help. We can all go around and around on this subject and you still refuse to see anyone's point but your own. We both know if this 60 year old, old man was not a millionare you would not have had all those babies with him or probably wouldn't have given him the time of day. If he (the father) wants to be a part of the children's life then let him and that's great. Get your child support, continue your affair if you want, but for God's sake leave his wife and kids alone! Link to post Share on other sites
awkward Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 thank you for telling me no one here can help me... i just wanted help getting through no contact with him and endng it! You're welcome although I get that you were being sarcastic. I am hoping that you see that if all you are posting is true that we are beyond being able to provide you with the help you need. I'm sorry I called you delusional. Really the story just seems so far fetched, but I was wrong to call you that. It could all be true. If it is, I feel really sorry for you. The man threatens you, treats your children differently than his 'other' children, has you spied on, etc. You need to get help from someone IRL. Don't let this man control you or your family. Please remain no contact with him. Saying you need outside help (beyond this forum) doesn't mean posting here won't help you or that we can't offer ANY support. It just means that your situation requires more than most other situations. I feel badly for your children. If you want to do the right thing by them, don't go back to this man. Don't speak to him. Get professional help. Ignore his threats. Make sure that he knows that if anything happens to you, that he will be exposed. Link to post Share on other sites
LucreziaBorgia Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Isn't this just a continuation of Bella's story? When we left off with Bella in early 2007, she was pregnant with baby #1 of powerful billionaire MM. Its been a few years, so I guess it makes sense that she could be up to number three by now to go with the two sons she originally had with someone else. Total of five kids. MM details match - even down to having evidence of a 'dating site profile' (Adam, I believe it was and that hilarious tattoo story), only he'd be a few years over sixty by now. Bella was 32. Fast forward, and now she'd be going on... 35. If not, then it is quite a coincidence, indeed. As for Nocontact - the wives of rich and powerful men like this one don't care about mistresses or their children as long as their husband keeps the status quo and puts the children of the marriage first. They tend to see things like mistresses and illegitimate offspring of said mistresses as unfortunate 'hobbies' of their husbands. Certainly nothing worth fretting over. I would wager that MM's wife sees you much like she sees 'the help' - just another expense to take care of. Link to post Share on other sites
jj33 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 I think you would wager right Lucrezia. We never discussed it but my guess is that is how xMMs wife saw me. Part of the woodwork, one of the many members of staff that made their world revolve smoothly. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Isn't this just a continuation of Bella's story? When we left off with Bella in early 2007, she was pregnant with baby #1 of powerful billionaire MM. Its been a few years, so I guess it makes sense that she could be up to number three by now to go with the two sons she originally had with someone else. Total of five kids. MM details match - even down to having evidence of a 'dating site profile' (Adam, I believe it was and that hilarious tattoo story), only he'd be a few years over sixty by now. Bella was 32. Fast forward, and now she'd be going on... 35. If not, then it is quite a coincidence, indeed. As for Nocontact - the wives of rich and powerful men like this one don't care about mistresses or their children as long as their husband keeps the status quo and puts the children of the marriage first. They tend to see things like mistresses and illegitimate offspring of said mistresses as unfortunate 'hobbies' of their husbands. Certainly nothing worth fretting over. I would wager that MM's wife sees you much like she sees 'the help' - just another expense to take care of. Im glad you thought the tattoo of his fake name he fed me was hilarious...because I put his real name on my inner left wrist...now whats can he do... that permenant and I wont cover it up...SO, along with his children all having his last name...his name is and will always be a reminder to me of what type man he is...and that truth always comes out... Link to post Share on other sites
bentnotbroken Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Im glad you thought the tattoo of his fake name he fed me was hilarious...because I put his real name on my inner left wrist...now whats can he do... that permenant and I wont cover it up...SO, along with his children all having his last name...his name is and will always be a reminder to me of what type man he is...and that truth always comes out... And a reminder of what type of woman you are. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 I have many tattoos...only one that can be seen (on my wrist) unless I have a bathing suit on. I dont think you can judge anyone by if they do or do not have tattoos... famous people have tattoos...im sure plenty of posters on this site have tattoos... tattoos are not a definition of class or status... Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 why the tattoo on my inner wrist??? why his name??? It's only his last name...so same as my children...and it is a constant reminder to me to keep my guard up for even the most trusting of people will lie... It keeps my guard up with him and not so much his lying, but lack of saying anything...I can tell when he is hiding something more by what he doesnt say than when he lies to me. Link to post Share on other sites
LucreziaBorgia Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Im glad you thought the tattoo of his fake name he fed me was hilarious...because I put his real name on my inner left wrist...now whats can he do... that permenant and I wont cover it up...SO, along with his children all having his last name...his name is and will always be a reminder to me of what type man he is...and that truth always comes out... So, you are Bella! Why didn't you just post with your original name? Link to post Share on other sites
fooled once Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 I dont know...i dont know what to do anymore. But it blows my mind that his 99 year old mother, his wife and their children (my childrens brothers and sisters) can have such little in their heart to open up to innocent young siblings, and blood family, when I have made it abundantly clear they can visit without any contact with me, strictly through their dad... There is nothing I have left to offer to give MM all his children together and all children father,... NONE of them HAVE to accept your kids. The wife SURELY doesn't. Why can't you understand that. Has she stated TO YOU that she would HURT THEM? I bet not. You have NO IDEA her feelings on them and please- she is not STEPMOM to them LOL. She has no obligation to them AT ALL. She doesn't have to open her home to them. They are NOTHING more to her than other kids she may see in a department store. You don't understand that. As for her kids, they don't HAVE to accept your children/their half siblings either. To do so means they have to accept what a lying crap head their father is to cheat on THEIR MOTHER. Their loyalty is to their MOM - not to you, the kids or their father. STOP focusing on her and her accepting the kids (and you). Your ONLY focus should be on being the BEST mom you can be and allowing their father reasonable access to them (that doesn't mean you drop everything when he wants to visit. It means setting up visitation). Link to post Share on other sites
bentnotbroken Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 I have many tattoos...only one that can be seen (on my wrist) unless I have a bathing suit on. I dont think you can judge anyone by if they do or do not have tattoos... famous people have tattoos...im sure plenty of posters on this site have tattoos... tattoos are not a definition of class or status... Have a couple myself. You mentioned what kind of man he was, what kind of woman( your character) are you to tattoo another woman's husband name on your wrist? You are correct, it has nothing to do with class or status. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 I spoke with him today, he just arrived in Europe. And I told him I wanted one question answered... "If his wife and older children have nothing against his youngest children with me, nothing against them at all and he makes all the decisions regarding his time with them, then why has he not included them during the Christmas holiday?" His response, "everyone is putting in there ideas on where to travel, go skiing, go to islands, etc. for christmas and no definite plan has been made but they will be out of states from like 24th-27th?? I think is the dates - but that no decision has been made on where they will spend christmas as of yet." "If they go skiing there really wouldnt be anything for the younger children to do." I replied "They have passports, I have given you carte blanche to have your children even over the holidays so why would you not consider their needs over Christmas?" His response, "Its Sept. why are you asking me about christmas now???" Me, "I want to know what type of father you plan on being to our children? One that calls on birthdays and Christmas or one that is physically and emotionally involved in their upbringing?" Him, "that depends on how you behave." Me, "we have no relationship, we are over. you made your choice it wasnt me, Im fine with that. I am no more than the mother to your children and that is it. In 90 years I will still be no more than mother to your children. We will never marry, live together as a real family, or be lovers again...its over by my choice. But our relationship has nothing do to with that of you and your children. Do not direct your being mad at me for whatever reason onto innocent children. I dont want to even see you. The nannies can bring them to your car, and can pick them up from you when you bring them back." Basically the conversation continued like that for an hour or so, him saying I insulted him by putting his last name on our son's birth announcement, which I only gave to him and kept for his baby book...I ordered different announcements with no last name to mail out. And that he wasnt going to take abuse being called a coward, and that his wife has her head in the sand and how she could ever stay with a man that cheated thoughout their entire marriage...etc. I told him that is while I was ending it with you. That had nothing to do with our children. Now that it is over its over I have nothing to say negative to you or about you. The only communication we have left is the business of our children. So, he said I need to drink some herbal tea and sleep some, take a few days and calm down and not end things and just think things over. Why???? What is there to think over? What is he hoping to gain by this?? Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 So, you are Bella! Why didn't you just post with your original name? Because someone found out who my MM was and tried to extort money from him, thats how he got ahold of this site, all site members who posted on my thread their names, socials, addresses, etc. and had me questioned on if I personally knew any of you...which I did not.... Who ever tried to extort money from him, BIG BIG BIG MISTAKE!!!!! He is very well protected by our government, as I am sure you found out the hard way! So, I changed everything and tried to mix up details so no too much information was out there...because this site of safe haven became unsafe...So if some details seem not to match exact that is why... Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Have a couple myself. You mentioned what kind of man he was, what kind of woman( your character) are you to tattoo another woman's husband name on your wrist? You are correct, it has nothing to do with class or status. Was not tattooing another womans husband name on me...I tattooed father of my children's last name on me... someone that I needed a constant reminder to be weary of his word and deeds. Link to post Share on other sites
bentnotbroken Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Was not tattooing another womans husband name on me...I tattooed father of my children's last name on me... someone that I needed a constant reminder to be weary of his word and deeds. You say tomato, I say tomaaato. Same name owned by the same prick. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 You say tomato, I say tomaaato. Same name owned by the same prick. Well, that is not only his name but my 3 youngest children...so it has its own meanings to me... never ever did it have any inclination to do with his Wife... Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 He was pissed off about the tattoo and wanted it removed and I told him no...its my body...not his. I said I will tattoo whatever I want to on my body...you didnt seem mind when it was your fake name... I told him you cant sue me or do anything about it...its free speech and its true...so he just has to deal... Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 You say tomato, I say tomaaato. Same name owned by the same prick. and several buildings, landmarks, etc...name is everywhere... Link to post Share on other sites
LucreziaBorgia Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 I think he is hoping to keep you in your place to the extent that you don't go public and bust him. Who ever tried to extort money from him, BIG BIG BIG MISTAKE!!!!! He is very well protected by our government, as I am sure you found out the hard way! If I were going to extort money from someone, I wouldn't do it based on posts on an internet forum. What kind of fool would do something like that based on what amounts to hearsay? I sincerely doubt it was anyone from here, if anyone did it at all. There is more than one forum out there that was discussing your story, and at least one that fully documented the details on both of you. You posted enough information for more than one person from more than one forum to figure out exactly who he is. For all anyone knows, you tried to extort him yourself and tried to blame it on someone on the internet. You certainly seemed determined enough. Then again, you can always go back to claiming you made all of this up. What did MM say about all those details you posted about him that identified him? Link to post Share on other sites
bentnotbroken Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 He was pissed off about the tattoo and wanted it removed and I told him no...its my body...not his. I said I will tattoo whatever I want to on my body...you didnt seem mind when it was your fake name... I told him you cant sue me or do anything about it...its free speech and its true...so he just has to deal...[/QUOTE] Then act like it is your body and your life. Not just in getting a dang tattoo. In making responsible life choices that make you the adult your age suggests you are. Link to post Share on other sites
bentnotbroken Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 and several buildings, landmarks, etc...name is everywhere... And you are still where you are...on the outside whinning. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 I think he is hoping to keep you in your place to the extent that you don't go public and bust him. Who ever tried to extort money from him, BIG BIG BIG MISTAKE!!!!! He is very well protected by our government, as I am sure you found out the hard way!/QUOTE] If I were going to extort money from someone, I wouldn't do it based on posts on an internet forum. What kind of fool would do something like that based on what amounts to hearsay? I sincerely doubt it was anyone from here, if anyone did it at all. There is more than one forum out there that was discussing your story, and at least one that fully documented the details on both of you. You posted enough information for more than one person from more than one forum to figure out exactly who he is. For all anyone knows, you tried to extort him yourself and tried to blame it on someone on the internet. You certainly seemed determined enough. It came from another state, emails, phone calls, even a fax threatening to tell his wife and go public. That's why he asked me name for name (identifying not only LS posting names, but real names registered to the user) because it came from somewhere like Idaho, or some state out that way...Thats why I backpeddled so quick...and stopped posting. He had everyone's information from this site who posted on my thread. If it came from another site he would have told me about their information. I dont post anywhere else...so whoever it was I am sure did not get a dime...its a federal crime to try and extort money....why would I do it? All my childrens needs and mine financially are more than met. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 I think he is hoping to keep you in your place to the extent that you don't go public and bust him. If I were going to extort money from someone, I wouldn't do it based on posts on an internet forum. What kind of fool would do something like that based on what amounts to hearsay? I sincerely doubt it was anyone from here, if anyone did it at all. There is more than one forum out there that was discussing your story, and at least one that fully documented the details on both of you. You posted enough information for more than one person from more than one forum to figure out exactly who he is. For all anyone knows, you tried to extort him yourself and tried to blame it on someone on the internet. You certainly seemed determined enough. Then again, you can always go back to claiming you made all of this up. What did MM say about all those details you posted about him that identified him? He said in his world nothing will ever be anonymous. He will and can find out anything and everything with a phone call...as far as details the only one he seemed pissed off about is something about me referring to him as a momma's boy??? Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 And you are still where you are...on the outside whinning. Its over... I dont think he wants it to be over...but I told him the only way he will ever get me back is to show up with "divorce papers, ring, flowers and an apology to me and children." which we both know wont happen, so its over... I dont think he can deal with that...he thinks if I drink some herbal tea sleep for a while a calm down a few days all will be back to normal. Why??? Link to post Share on other sites
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