LucreziaBorgia Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 If this is a true story at all, and you know you could get in some serious trouble outing this guy - why are you on a public forum putting it out there for everyone to see? Don't you realize that you could be putting yourself and your children in some serious danger? What did he say about you posting information that led to him being identified? As for getting everyone's information - are you implying that LoveShack allowed him access to member's personal information? Trust me, there are other sites that were on to you and following your story - very, very closely. Link to post Share on other sites
bentnotbroken Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Its over... I dont think he wants it to be over...but I told him the only way he will ever get me back is to show up with "divorce papers, ring, flowers and an apology to me and children." which we both know wont happen, so its over... I dont think he can deal with that...he thinks if I drink some herbal tea sleep for a while a calm down a few days all will be back to normal. Why??? Because he plays you like a fiddle and it's an old tune. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 All we have left to ever discuss is business of our children...other than that its not his business how I am doing emotionally, physically, who I am or am not dating...nothing I do is his business, just as his marriage is not my business. So, whats good for him is good for me... I dont think he likes fair play...do you???? Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 If this is a true story at all, and you know you could get in some serious trouble outing this guy - why are you on a public forum putting it out there for everyone to see? Don't you realize that you could be putting yourself and your children in some serious danger? What did he say about you posting information that led to him being identified? As for getting everyone's information - are you implying that LoveShack allowed him access to member's personal information? Trust me, there are other sites that were on to you and following your story - very, very closely. No, I do not believe LS allowed anything. I think NSA can ability to gain any information they want from any site anywhere anytime without anyone being any the wiser. He knows my attorney has all the information on him, CIA coming to office, newspaper clippings he has given me about people being taken without cause by government, etc. and if anything happens to me he is PRIME SUSPECT #1 and then he will definitely be in public eye. As far as posting now, his family all knows, which wasnt the case last time...his name is on the birth certificates, his name is tattooed on my wrist, the only people who dont know is his business associates and high society friends... So I dont really care...nothing I am saying is untrue so he cant sue me for anything. My attorney said I can say whatever I want as long as its true. Link to post Share on other sites
Sanafa Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 I haven't said anything, but find all of this extremely dramatic As for him " finding everyone who posts"..... tell him to give me a call --- I'll say hello;) Let me tell you the first rule of life --- sure someone has already said it The only power someone has, is the power YOU give them. Link to post Share on other sites
bentnotbroken Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 All we have left to ever discuss is business of our children...other than that its not his business how I am doing emotionally, physically, who I am or am not dating...nothing I do is his business, just as his marriage is not my business. So, whats good for him is good for me... I dont think he likes fair play...do you???? No. Neither do you. Birds of a feather, flock together. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Because he plays you like a fiddle and it's an old tune. So, if I am such a pain in the a** why not just let me go, continue paying the financial obligation...see his children if he so chooses...or dont, but why not just let me go????? Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 sorry he just called me, is midnight in europe and he is about to go to bed... said he will be by on wednesday to take my oldest son out for ice cream and wants me to get some sleep and have sweet dreams and that if he is in the country HE WANTS TO BE THERE WHEN HIS BABY IS BORN - NOT ANOTHER MAN. :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: What do I have to dream about that is sweet? Why does he keep trying to get me to go to sleep????? Link to post Share on other sites
fooled once Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 I spoke with him today, he just arrived in Europe. And I told him I wanted one question answered... "If his wife and older children have nothing against his youngest children with me, nothing against them at all and he makes all the decisions regarding his time with them, then why has he not included them during the Christmas holiday?" His response, "everyone is putting in there ideas on where to travel, go skiing, go to islands, etc. for christmas and no definite plan has been made but they will be out of states from like 24th-27th?? I think is the dates - but that no decision has been made on where they will spend christmas as of yet." "If they go skiing there really wouldnt be anything for the younger children to do." I replied "They have passports, I have given you carte blanche to have your children even over the holidays so why would you not consider their needs over Christmas?" His response, "Its Sept. why are you asking me about christmas now???" Me, "I want to know what type of father you plan on being to our children? One that calls on birthdays and Christmas or one that is physically and emotionally involved in their upbringing?" Him, "that depends on how you behave." Me, "we have no relationship, we are over. you made your choice it wasnt me, Im fine with that. I am no more than the mother to your children and that is it. In 90 years I will still be no more than mother to your children. We will never marry, live together as a real family, or be lovers again...its over by my choice. But our relationship has nothing do to with that of you and your children. Do not direct your being mad at me for whatever reason onto innocent children. I dont want to even see you. The nannies can bring them to your car, and can pick them up from you when you bring them back." Basically the conversation continued like that for an hour or so, him saying I insulted him by putting his last name on our son's birth announcement, which I only gave to him and kept for his baby book...I ordered different announcements with no last name to mail out. And that he wasnt going to take abuse being called a coward, and that his wife has her head in the sand and how she could ever stay with a man that cheated thoughout their entire marriage...etc. I told him that is while I was ending it with you. That had nothing to do with our children. Now that it is over its over I have nothing to say negative to you or about you. The only communication we have left is the business of our children. So, he said I need to drink some herbal tea and sleep some, take a few days and calm down and not end things and just think things over. Why???? What is there to think over? What is he hoping to gain by this?? So .... so much for no contact You actually don't need to talk to him about his children. You can send him updates via email AND set up visitation via lawyers (since you have one on retainer) and ta da - no more talking to him. You are talking to him because you NEED to -- you need your ego fed; you need him to tell you he wants you, he desires you, he cares for you. You can't let go. And why in the WORLD do you think his family holidays - with his family - include your kids with him??? Seriously -- why do you think so?? Your kids with him are too young to even really know about Christmas -- they can have it with him before him and his family leave for their holiday. MANY divorced families handle it this way No where does it say all children of one man/woman MUST be together on the actual holiday. You are now using the children as an excuse to talk to him. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 we only communicate thru text/phone/in person----no email contact at all anymore. he wont go thru lawyers for visitation...he wont be dictated to as he says on how/when he sees his children by another man.... Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 I spoke with him today, he just arrived in Europe. And I told him I wanted one question answered... "If his wife and older children have nothing against his youngest children with me, nothing against them at all and he makes all the decisions regarding his time with them, then why has he not included them during the Christmas holiday?" His response, "everyone is putting in there ideas on where to travel, go skiing, go to islands, etc. for christmas and no definite plan has been made but they will be out of states from like 24th-27th?? I think is the dates - but that no decision has been made on where they will spend christmas as of yet." "If they go skiing there really wouldnt be anything for the younger children to do." I replied "They have passports, I have given you carte blanche to have your children even over the holidays so why would you not consider their needs over Christmas?" His response, "Its Sept. why are you asking me about christmas now???" Me, "I want to know what type of father you plan on being to our children? One that calls on birthdays and Christmas or one that is physically and emotionally involved in their upbringing?" Him, "that depends on how you behave." Me, "we have no relationship, we are over. you made your choice it wasnt me, Im fine with that. I am no more than the mother to your children and that is it. In 90 years I will still be no more than mother to your children. We will never marry, live together as a real family, or be lovers again...its over by my choice. But our relationship has nothing do to with that of you and your children. Do not direct your being mad at me for whatever reason onto innocent children. I dont want to even see you. The nannies can bring them to your car, and can pick them up from you when you bring them back." Basically the conversation continued like that for an hour or so, him saying I insulted him by putting his last name on our son's birth announcement, which I only gave to him and kept for his baby book...I ordered different announcements with no last name to mail out. And that he wasnt going to take abuse being called a coward, and that his wife has her head in the sand and how she could ever stay with a man that cheated thoughout their entire marriage...etc. I told him that is while I was ending it with you. That had nothing to do with our children. Now that it is over its over I have nothing to say negative to you or about you. The only communication we have left is the business of our children. So, he said I need to drink some herbal tea and sleep some, take a few days and calm down and not end things and just think things over. Why???? What is there to think over? What is he hoping to gain by this?? Let me get this straight, you want your little kids to hang out with his grown children and wife, in another country, without you during the Christmas holidays????? Why? Why don't you want MM to take you and your kids away for a holiday vacation if anything? I think he told you to drink some tea and lie down because you (I'm sorry) sound like a crazy person. Please take some of his billions and see a therapist. If not for you do it for those poor little kids. Do you understand the position you would put your own children in? They will be made to feel "second best" as those people will not show them love and you can't ask them too. You are on some kind of competitive streek with his wife. Please put the good of your own children first. Don't you have a family to spend the holidays with? Tell me the truth, are you an Aries? Link to post Share on other sites
bentnotbroken Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 So, if I am such a pain in the a** why not just let me go, continue paying the financial obligation...see his children if he so chooses...or dont, but why not just let me go????? Because you allow him to control this little drama. How many times have people on this board posted you can't hold someone who doesn't want to be in a relationship and you can't make someone be with your who doesn't want to. You want to be right where you are. Wait, I'm wrong you want to be in the wife's position. Ain't gonna happen. Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 So, if I am such a pain in the a** why not just let me go, continue paying the financial obligation...see his children if he so chooses...or dont, but why not just let me go?????[/QUOTE] I think at this point he doesn't for the kids sake. You really sound unstable and maybe he is thinking there is no telling what you might do if he completely breaks it off with you. He no doubt also cares about you. He can say he doesn't want to be dictated to all he wants but you can take him to court, get child support and set up visitation rights. When are you going to do that? Never I bet. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 sagittarius leaving door open, carte blanche for him to spend time with his children. our youngest b-day is x-mas eve...and im too pregnant to fly at that time... besides, he and i are over so no i dont want to go anywhere with him.... Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 no, no family besides my children..... Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 we only communicate thru text/phone/in person----no email contact at all anymore. he wont go thru lawyers for visitation...he wont be dictated to as he says on how/when he sees his children by another man.... Do you think this is because he doesn't want you to have written proof of anything he has said to you? Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 no, no family besides my children..... But, do you understand what position your little kids will be in. Around a bunch of grown arse people who don't like them and without Mommy there. Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 I'm sorry you don't have any family. I feel for anyone in that position. What about good friends you could visit. I'm sure he would pay all the bills for you and the kids to have a wonderful time. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 oh no, i never want to be in her shoes... our relationship dynamic is totally different, im not snobby and dont give care bout high society people think or going black tie events... she took up a petition against a neighbor for a statue they had in their own yard...thats crazy!!!! MYOB!!! besides, we are over...so nothing to want anymore of him... Link to post Share on other sites
bentnotbroken Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 But, do you understand what position your little kids will be in. Around a bunch of grown arse people who don't like them and without Mommy there. Who said no one liked them? I don't recall reading that anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Do you think this is because he doesn't want you to have written proof of anything he has said to you? part of his reasons...other part is govt monitoring our emails Link to post Share on other sites
bentnotbroken Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 oh no, i never want to be in her shoes... our relationship dynamic is totally different, im not snobby and dont give care bout high society people think or going black tie events... she took up a petition against a neighbor for a statue they had in their own yard...thats crazy!!!! MYOB!!! besides, we are over...so nothing to want anymore of him... Sure you don't. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 I'm sorry you don't have any family. I feel for anyone in that position. What about good friends you could visit. I'm sure he would pay all the bills for you and the kids to have a wonderful time. he doesnt want me leaving area...no, he wont pay for me take kids anywhere...besides too close to birth at that point Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 So, if I am such a pain in the a** why not just let me go, continue paying the financial obligation...see his children if he so chooses...or dont, but why not just let me go?????[/QUOTE] I think at this point he doesn't for the kids sake. You really sound unstable and maybe he is thinking there is no telling what you might do if he completely breaks it off with you. He no doubt also cares about you. He can say he doesn't want to be dictated to all he wants but you can take him to court, get child support and set up visitation rights. When are you going to do that? Never I bet. i broke it off with him...he didnt break it off with me. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Who said no one liked them? I don't recall reading that anywhere. he has always maintained that his family has nothing against children...his children have said they are cute... and i would NEVER agree let him take them if i thought he wouldnt protect them or they would be mistreated in any way.... Link to post Share on other sites
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