fooled once Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 You are not "so over" with him. If you were, you wouldn't have talked to him today. And why does he need to pay for you to take the kids anywhere?? Surely you have saved some of the money he gives you? And it isn't his job to pay for you to take the kids anywhere - that is YOUR job. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 You are not "so over" with him. If you were, you wouldn't have talked to him today. And why does he need to pay for you to take the kids anywhere?? Surely you have saved some of the money he gives you? And it isn't his job to pay for you to take the kids anywhere - that is YOUR job. i was responding to someone else asking if he would pay for me take kids somewhere. no, when you have no health insurance its very difficult to save anything!!! he keeps me on tight leash... Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Who said no one liked them? I don't recall reading that anywhere. Yeah you're right. It's not the little kids fault. But still I can't imagine them wanting them there or being that warm to them once they arrive. I just don't see it. Maybe I'll be surprised, but I don't see it. Link to post Share on other sites
LucreziaBorgia Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 He doesn't provide you or his children with health insurance? Why on earth not? Surely he could give you the money to buy a policy! Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 he wont put kids on his health insurance so i have to pay cash for all of it, including births and c-sections arent cheap!!! he wont even claim them as dependents on his tax returns.... i am over him he said to get some sleep and have sweet dreams...i hung up on him. now both my ringers are turned off on both my cell phones...i sent him final text that i will answer his call wednesday when he is enroute to pick up my oldest son to take him out for ice cream and see the boys, and I will leave house then as to be gone when he arrives (nannies will be there) and I will stay gone until he brings my son back. that way we do not have to even see each other... and that is my final communication to him until wednesday when he calls me... so yes, i am doing my best for it to be over... Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 He doesn't provide you or his children with health insurance? Why on earth not? Surely he could give you the money to buy a policy! he refuses...its fight ive had with him hundreds of times... Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 he says its a rip-off and mail them payments of $100 a month...what he doesnt understand is they want payment up front which eats up my ability to save anything! Link to post Share on other sites
Athena Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 What do I have to dream about that is sweet? Why does he keep trying to get me to go to sleep????? well, it's easier for him to control you when you don't have an independent mind of your own, when you are therefore "asleep"... Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 He doesn't provide you or his children with health insurance? Why on earth not? Surely he could give you the money to buy a policy! I can't believe this! You let him get away with that? What kind of billionare would not get an insurance policy (even separate) for his children? This should tell you the type of man he is or just how little he must care about those children. An insurance policy for health should be nothing to him. Link to post Share on other sites
Athena Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 i broke it off with him...he didnt break it off with me. You've broken nothing off with him, you just <say> you have, but in reality there's no breaking off, or else not only wouldn't you have accepted his call, but you wouldn't be letting him take YOUR (not his) son out on Wednesday for ice-cream... it's the wolf at the door knocking to be let back into your heart and your bed.... Besides, you said before that your ex-H provides financially for the two eldest, so where is HE, why doesn't the real dad take out your son for ice-cream? Do they even see each other, NC2?? Link to post Share on other sites
Athena Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 he refuses...its fight ive had with him hundreds of times... Then it's simple -- time to take him to court, so that the courts make him get his kids health insurance!! Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 You've broken nothing off with him, you just <say> you have, but in reality there's no breaking off, or else not only wouldn't you have accepted his call, but you wouldn't be letting him take YOUR (not his) son out on Wednesday for ice-cream... it's the wolf at the door knocking to be let back into your heart and your bed.... Besides, you said before that your ex-H provides financially for the two eldest, so where is HE, why doesn't the real dad take out your son for ice-cream? Do they even see each other, NC2?? Athena it seems that she has to see him as her very lively hood depends on this man. I thought he was a billionare who supplied her with everything she needed to be a SAHM. This guy sounds like a deadbeat to me. You are right she isn't through with him and he knows it, that's why he told her to drink tea and go lie down. He thinks it's another hormonal surge. Link to post Share on other sites
fooled once Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 he says its a rip-off and mail them payments of $100 a month...what he doesnt understand is they want payment up front which eats up my ability to save anything! NOW I call BS. You have nannies. You have an attorney on retainer. yet you don't have money for a vacation because you have to pay for health insurance? And FYI - only 1 of you can claim the kids on taxes - why would YOU let HIM claim them? And what about all this money your kids get in modeling? So how do you pay for groceries? Utility bills? Gas in your car? This "billionaire" has you on such a tight leash. He has you convinced he has the CIA after you. He has convinced you that he can get anyone's personal information off a website where people are anonymous. He has you believing he can make you disappear. He has you convinced he has connections to anyone and everyone. LOL Sorry, but he has you so under his spell of bullcrap. And yeah, you get all this child support -- yet you can't afford a vacation? Sorry, now I am not believing a lot of this.... Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 You've broken nothing off with him, you just <say> you have, but in reality there's no breaking off, or else not only wouldn't you have accepted his call, but you wouldn't be letting him take YOUR (not his) son out on Wednesday for ice-cream... it's the wolf at the door knocking to be let back into your heart and your bed.... Besides, you said before that your ex-H provides financially for the two eldest, so where is HE, why doesn't the real dad take out your son for ice-cream? Do they even see each other, NC2?? my oldest sons father is a phone call at x-mas and when he remembers his birthday dad...he has zero parental rights. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 thats also why i am making it a point to NOT BE HOME when he comes by.... Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 Then it's simple -- time to take him to court, so that the courts make him get his kids health insurance!! i receive probably more than court would order...and he pays it so my attorney advises against it unless he stops paying. Link to post Share on other sites
LucreziaBorgia Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 I wonder if this was what it was like for Sally Hemings? This sounds so much like some story between a plantation owner and the house-slave mistress and family, or some wealthy baron and his 'beneath the stairs' mistress and family. Where he will acknowledge paternity, but only in the most meager or senses: no legal recognition, no legitimizing of the children, little if any involvement with the children - just an ongoing affair with someone of a lower social class that he can keep in her place and keep her like he would a pet. If this is true, it is damned sad for those kids. They will grow up in the shadows, literally and figuratively - wondering why they aren't as legitimate as the kids of his marriage. Link to post Share on other sites
IfWishesWereHorses Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 MYOB!!! You should take your own advice when it comes to his wife and family. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 NOW I call BS. You have nannies. You have an attorney on retainer. yet you don't have money for a vacation because you have to pay for health insurance? And FYI - only 1 of you can claim the kids on taxes - why would YOU let HIM claim them? And what about all this money your kids get in modeling? So how do you pay for groceries? Utility bills? Gas in your car? This "billionaire" has you on such a tight leash. He has you convinced he has the CIA after you. He has convinced you that he can get anyone's personal information off a website where people are anonymous. He has you believing he can make you disappear. He has you convinced he has connections to anyone and everyone. LOL Sorry, but he has you so under his spell of bullcrap. And yeah, you get all this child support -- yet you can't afford a vacation? Sorry, now I am not believing a lot of this.... I have no health insurance...only have one car payment (what I use for nannies if they transport disabled child with wheelchair); he bought me a 2009 cadillac esv in cash for valentines day to transport all the children in my name alone. i cant file taxes and claim the children, I dont work...I havent filed taxes in forever. He is only one who can claim them. No, when I am paying $700 an ultrasound, $7500.00 just for doctor to perform surgery, then office visits, blood work, etc. I am a high risk pregnancy because of my disabled child so I get more frequent visits/bloodwork/ultrsounds...then there is all the hospitals costs....so no, i dont have anything saved...and that is just this pregnancy...i am still paying off last one i had last xmas eve. not to mention immunizations and peditrician for our youngest which is outrageous... My oldest 2 children are only ones with health insurance...except dental...I pay for that...but all my children go to dentist every 6 months...my 9 month old has 6 teeth already. I wont touch my childrens money, it all goes into a coogan account (trust account only they get when they turn 18) after agent takes their percentage. Its not their responsibility for their care. I budget as best I can, I pay nannies, I pay groceries and utilites, car insurance essential bills, then what is left I pay down on all health bills. Link to post Share on other sites
Athena Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 my oldest sons father is a phone call at x-mas and when he remembers his birthday dad...he has zero parental rights. Why don't you encourage a relationship between your two oldest sons and their real dad, esp. with the family history you have of not seeing your own dad!!! Why has xH got "zero parental rights"?! Would you do that to him? Link to post Share on other sites
Athena Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 i cant file taxes and claim the children, I dont work...I havent filed taxes in forever. He is only one who can claim them. One day all the kids will be grown and gone, and you will be in your mid-fifties with no saved money, no health insurance, no medic aid even, because you have to contribute at least the minimum and work for TEN years to do so! Are you not thinking of YOUR future? Your future Financial situation... no pension!!!! Your future Health situation... six C-sections, and pregnancies!!!! Your future Emotional situation... no life partner Link to post Share on other sites
Athena Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 MYOB!!! You should take your own advice when it comes to his wife and family. Priceless! IWWH! Seriously, though, NC2 -- you are expending ALL your physical energy into your kids who will one day leave the nest, and ALL of your Emotional energy into a weasel of a MM... WHY? Link to post Share on other sites
Athena Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 This sounds so much like some story between a plantation owner and the house-slave mistress and family, or some wealthy baron and his 'beneath the stairs' mistress and family. Where he will acknowledge paternity, but only in the most meager or senses: no legal recognition, no legitimizing of the children, little if any involvement with the children - just an ongoing affair with someone of a lower social class . This is what I too, thought earlier in this thread, about WHY the MM's W will have nothing to do with OP! She (W) is probably of a higher social class, and it is beneath her to have any kind of communication with her errant H's younger, lower-status, OW! OP has no power here.... not even over her OWN life, never mind telling W "had no effect on anything" -- she -- OP, has NO EFFECT ON ANYTHING.Sad Link to post Share on other sites
Athena Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Perhaps you can look into getting part time work and at least claiming the kids on your tax returns, & start to rack up the required ten years to get the Medic Aid and a basic pension through the US government... you gotta start looking out for yourself! You have nannies to take care of the kids... so work a few hours for YOURSELF Link to post Share on other sites
Athena Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 thats also why i am making it a point to NOT BE HOME when he comes by.... but you are giving MM a mixed signal: you SAY you are going NC with him and he'll never see his kids, then after one day you cave, accept his phone call and meekly agree to letting him take YOUR son out for a silly event (ice cream, not a school performance/award, etc)... so MM sees that you are just craving some more attention, and is doing something 'nice' to show you he'll tow the line a little... he knows you don't mean business b/c of your ACTIONS -- which speak louder than your angry Words! You avoided answering why you have cut your xH out of his son's life, when you hated that happening to YOU as a child? ! Link to post Share on other sites
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