GreenBamboo Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 what do you recommend is best life for these children whose mother is home for them every night and their father is a lying mm who thinks at his availability we should snap to it Maybe you should bring your/his 3 young kids to his home, let him take care of them for a couple of month, while you have more time to find a job and date? Besides money, he should devote some time to his kids. Link to post Share on other sites
EarthGirl Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 I just want what is right for all children and to be able to be together and with their father at same time...I dont care if they fall in love with his wife they can call her step-mom whatever as long as she is good to them... I just want him to be father to them he is to his adult children.... well I'd just like to say that any father that won't accept and love ALL his children regardless of who their with, is no kind of father at all. And any woman who would NOT be good to innocent children (even if they throw tantrums, I am sure you're a good mom, but you're kids have already been through a lot and all kids throw tantrums sometimes no matter how they are raised and how taken care of they are and how happy they are most of the time) just because they are the product of something that hurts her greatly...If she would not swallow that hurt no matter if it gave her ulcers and made her heart break for the sake of children that ARE connected to her ...because they are her husbands children....That is no kind of woman either. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 I agree with this. Bascially, his wife has class and he knows it. he is constantly telling me he knows i will eventually leave him for a younger man... Link to post Share on other sites
bentnotbroken Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Then let him stay faithful to his classy wife..fyi I never said she wasnt classy...just as stupid as I am for staying with a man that lies and cheats You can call her whatever makes you feel better. But you are the one in a position(so you say)not to make your own choices. She apparently has more class, dignity and smarts than either you or the sad sack of dog poo have between you. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Maybe you should bring your/his 3 young kids to his home, let him take care of them for a couple of month, while you have more time to find a job and date? Besides money, he should devote some time to his kids. He would say I abandoned them and try to take them from me permenatnly.. I love my children they are my entire life...I dont have deisre to date...party or be anywhere but home for them Link to post Share on other sites
SpanksTheMonkey Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 so, what in your almighty opinion is best for these 3 young children of a billionaire father???? Almighty common now don't throw eggs just cause I hit a nerve please lol.. You want my honest opinion? here it is.. My opinion maybe put up them up for adoption were they can be adopted by a loving couple with a stable home life. Thats unless your willing to come to step up to the plate and be the mother they deserve. And leave the father and find a good single man who can and is willing to raise them as his own. So they may know what a stable loving home life is any other questions? who cares if daddy's loaded why is that even an issue here for you? Link to post Share on other sites
bentnotbroken Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 well I'd just like to say that any father that won't accept and love ALL his children regardless of who their with, is no kind of father at all. And any woman who would NOT be good to innocent children (even if they throw tantrums, I am sure you're a good mom, but you're kids have already been through a lot and all kids throw tantrums sometimes no matter how they are raised and how taken care of they are and how happy they are most of the time) just because they are the product of something that hurts her greatly...If she would not swallow that hurt no matter if it gave her ulcers and made her heart break for the sake of children that ARE connected to her ...because they are her husbands children....That is no kind of woman either. That's asking a lot of anyone. She doesn't have to abuse the children, but she doesn't owe them anything, including love. And it has nothing to do with being a woman. It has everything to do with being human. They are no more connected to her than the woman who gave birth to them. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Almighty common now don't throw eggs just cause I hit a nerve please lol.. You want my honest opinion? here it is.. My opinion maybe put up them up for adoption were they can be adopted by a loving couple with a stable home life. Thats unless your willing to come to step up to the plate and be the mother they deserve. And leave the father and find a good single man who can and is willing to raise them as his own. So they may know what a stable loving home life is any other questions? who cares if daddy's loaded why is that even an issue here for you? no one understands power that comes with his money...he has already said he would never allow anther man to raise his children,... Link to post Share on other sites
GreenBamboo Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 he is constantly telling me he knows i will eventually leave him for a younger man... Is he insecure to be with you? You need to find the REAL reason that he doesn't marry you. It seems that he truely loves you. He may separate marriage from love. He may feel since you have a wide age gap (25+ years), it's unrealistic to have a long term marriage with you. It seems the wife is not the concern. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 That's asking a lot of anyone. She doesn't have to abuse the children, but she doesn't owe them anything, including love. And it has nothing to do with being a woman. It has everything to do with being human. They are no more connected to her than the woman who gave birth to them. what about her husband? what about her children knowing their siblings??? I have thought about everyone and put my feelings last to do anything make it best for mm and all his children. why cant she? Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Is he insecure to be with you? You need to find the REAL reason that he doesn't marry you. It seems that he truely loves you. He may separate marriage from love. He may feel since you have a wide age gap (25+ years), it's unrealistic to have a long term marriage with you. It seems the wife is not the concern. I dont know...i dont know what to do anymore. But it blows my mind that his 99 year old mother, his wife and their children (my childrens brothers and sisters) can have such little in their heart to open up to innocent young siblings, and blood family, when I have made it abundantly clear they can visit without any contact with me, strictly through their dad... There is nothing I have left to offer to give MM all his children together and all children father,... Link to post Share on other sites
SpanksTheMonkey Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 no one understands power that comes with his money...he has already said he would never allow anther man to raise his children,... Who is this guy a mob boss? common thats an excuse sorry get yourself a attorney and fight him! Or plan b just leave altogether go some were he will never find you do what ever it takes but leave for the sake of your children is it you cant leave or you don't want to lose him? honestly.. Link to post Share on other sites
SpanksTheMonkey Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 I dont know...i dont know what to do anymore. But it blows my mind that his 99 year old mother, his wife and their children (my childrens brothers and sisters) can have such little in their heart to open up to innocent young siblings, and blood family, when I have made it abundantly clear they can visit without any contact with me, strictly through their dad... There is nothing I have left to offer to give MM all his children together and all children father,... Those kids are a symbol of the failure of there family you don't see that? thats why they want nothing to do with them. Who wants there husbands/sons/fathers infidelity toddling around in the living room for all to see it hurts but thats just something you don't seam to understand if you MM had kids with yet another OW would you want them in your home as part of what you had left of your family? Link to post Share on other sites
EarthGirl Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 That's asking a lot of anyone. She doesn't have to abuse the children, but she doesn't owe them anything, including love. And it has nothing to do with being a woman. It has everything to do with being human. They are no more connected to her than the woman who gave birth to them. If another woman had children with a man I loved, I would feel that I had some sort of obligation to them ....I don't know, they are part of him, and he is part of me, so I would feel like I owed them at least to make sure he spent some time with them and that I treated them like any other children ...with respect and love and caring. don't get me wrong, I hope to GOD this never happens to me, but if it did, I could not ignore that they are innocents in all of it, and I would have to make sure that I showed them love and care and protection..while not trying to replace their mother or saying bad things about her in front of tem. But then I am a really big kid person..I like pretty much all kids...and even if I don't like them I believe all children deserve to feel protected, loved and cared for. Link to post Share on other sites
EarthGirl Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Those kids are a symbol of the failure of there family you don't see that? thats why they want nothing to do with them. Who wants there husbands/sons/fathers infidelity toddling around in the living room for all to see it hurts but thats just something you don't seam to understand if you MM had kids with yet another OW would you want them in your home as part of what you had left of your family? No kid deserves to be seen as the symbol of anything, let alone anything so horrible. Yeah technically they are made up of the combined DNA of the H and his mistress..but in the end they will grow up to be their own people, and guess what they already are...They as little people/souls/personalities have little to do where they come from....yeah we all end up with plenty of baggage from where we come from, and sometimes it defines our whole lives, but it doesn't actually define WHO WE ARE. A toddler toddling around a living room is a precious gift, nothing more, nothing less. Link to post Share on other sites
GreenBamboo Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 I still think the OP should create the oppurtunity to bring the 3 young kids to their daddy once in a while. The father and kids need time to bond. I can't believe a father won't love his own kids. Link to post Share on other sites
bentnotbroken Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 what about her husband? what about her children knowing their siblings??? I have thought about everyone and put my feelings last to do anything make it best for mm and all his children. why cant she? What about her H? What about her children? According to you, he doesn't want to spend time with them anyway. If he is so almight powerful and controls you, then he could and would see them if he wanted to. And again according to you, his children are adults and if they want a relationship with the children, they would. It is clear they all see the instability that is surrounded this mess and want no part of it. You have harassed their mother even after, according to you, she told you not to contact her again. Who in their right minds would want to deal with you and your over the top drama? Really??? Link to post Share on other sites
SpanksTheMonkey Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 No kid deserves to be seen as the symbol of anything, let alone anything so horrible. Yeah technically they are made up of the combined DNA of the H and his mistress..but in the end they will grow up to be their own people, and guess what they already are...They as little people/souls/personalities have little to do where they come from....yeah we all end up with plenty of baggage from where we come from, and sometimes it defines our whole lives, but it doesn't actually define WHO WE ARE. A toddler toddling around a living room is a precious gift, nothing more, nothing less. In a perfect world were people knew how to place anger hate and resentment on the proper shoulders IE the MM and the OW then yes its a gift! But sadly these kids were put into the situation by the adults who put them there who made them the objects of this discontent sad but true.. Link to post Share on other sites
bentnotbroken Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 If another woman had children with a man I loved, I would feel that I had some sort of obligation to them ....I don't know, they are part of him, and he is part of me, so I would feel like I owed them at least to make sure he spent some time with them and that I treated them like any other children ...with respect and love and caring. don't get me wrong, I hope to GOD this never happens to me, but if it did, I could not ignore that they are innocents in all of it, and I would have to make sure that I showed them love and care and protection..while not trying to replace their mother or saying bad things about her in front of tem. But then I am a really big kid person..I like pretty much all kids...and even if I don't like them I believe all children deserve to feel protected, loved and cared for. I totally agree with this. But I don't expect everyone to feel that way. And if the situation had been placed on me, I can honestly say, I would want my children to have a relationship with their sibling, but I would feel no obligation to care for that child. I would have no need to mistreat it, disrespect it or try to stop my children from loving a sibling. Just that assuming that the love of for a person who cheated on me would include the children of that A is a bit much to ask of anyone. Link to post Share on other sites
EarthGirl Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 I totally agree with this. But I don't expect everyone to feel that way. And if the situation had been placed on me, I can honestly say, I would want my children to have a relationship with their sibling, but I would feel no obligation to care for that child. I would have no need to mistreat it, disrespect it or try to stop my children from loving a sibling. Just that assuming that the love of for a person who cheated on me would include the children of that A is a bit much to ask of anyone. Yeah, if that ever happened to me and the man I love had a child with another women it would devastate me...It's like something you can never ever take back. With other things you can tell your SO yeah the sex was ok I won't lie, but I never felt the way I do with you....And it's ok cause it's in the past and you are where you always wanted to be in your deepest heart. But with a child you can see the actual bond of their DNA in their very faces...I get all that, I am a very unstable person emotionally and I have had a hard enough time getting over first love and other crushes to realize the man I wanted more than anything was perfect for me and I'd never need another. I can say if the old crushes/1st love have children someday even sometime soon, I would feel a little tinge maybe but i would be truly happy for them and it would not bother me much. If the man I love did with another women, wether he was with me and cheating one me or NOT when it happened...or wether we were not together at the time but he slept with another woman and got her pregnant..it would be just earth shattering to me. I think if I was around the product of their union so to speak, I would feel emotionally unstable, and maybe would have to make sure I was stable enough to take good care of any kids around, including the "product" or if I needed another adult around for safety reasons...cause I just think that that would be a shocking feeling in a way that could even send you into some kind of physical shock the first time you saw them. But in the end I do believe children are their own people the minute they are out of the womb, the minute they are conceived even. And I just cannot fathom that I could be cold to a child...not just not maltreat them, but to treat them any differently than any other child...just because of who their parents are. If it did happen to me I might try to keep my distance somewhat, but I would probably also try to reach out occasionally even if it hurt. In my mind no matter who they look like, they are completely separate being from this kind of mess and should be respected as innocent people and for whoever it is they are growing into being. I guess I just feel an obligation to care for ALL children. And I enjoy it..at least when they don't drive you crazy and exhaust you completely : ). Link to post Share on other sites
Ms. Red Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 You are unreal. "He told me this, he told me that." And like a person without a functioning brain stem or free will you listened and obeyed. Can anybody say THERAPY any louder than posters have already said it. Lord have mercy. Even the pregnancies are his fault alone. Remember this post?: We have 3 young children together...we have been together for a very long time...with me being "faithful" of course he keeps me pregnant all the time....he looks at me sideways and I am pregnant. I told him I am tired of being pregnant he needs a vasectomy. Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 they closed my last post due to song lyrics I put on there but I said who song was by so I dont understand...????You can get lyrics free all over internet. But okay, I will not post lyrics ever again. My children are my entire life. I have no other real family, but them. I will give them my all. I can not seek professional help without him using against me in court, per him and validated by my attorney he could call up any therapist I went to see. But, I have written to my attorney all the clippings from newspapers of government agencies able to hold persons of interests with no reason...and that he has threatened several times to have me disappear and he would take the children. So if anything happens to me, which is not an uncommon occurance if you watch the news, my attorney has everything and will turn over to the authorities. Yes, I do fear for my life...he is very rich, very powerful and gets what he wants. I've never ended it like I have this time...so I honestly do not know what is going to happen??? Link to post Share on other sites
ForumFool Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 IF you are for real go to a hospital ER..get a babysitter first....tell them you need to have a psych eval and all that you have told us on what this man can do as far as getting your info from all those "agencies" that will hold you as you feel you are a person of intrest...They will help you and he won't know nor can he do anything about it. Right now I am worried more about your kids if you really have any, than about what this man can do with all these secret agencies and his "QUANTICO" contacts.... Link to post Share on other sites
awkward Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 We can't help you here. You need to see a therapist. Put your kids first by getting the help you need. You are a MOM above anything else. Is your MM a politician? I SERIOUSLY doubt that your MM is going to take your kids from you. He doesn't even love them or want to spend time with them. I honestly can't figure out if you are an author or delusional. If you are an author, please pm me so I can just enjoy your writings. If your delusional then I guess you wouldn't know that you are. Good Luck to you NC2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author nocontact2 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Why is it when you tell the truth people think you are delusional??? My attorney didnt think I was delusional when CIA showed up at his law firm during a conference between me, mm, and our attorneys trying to intimidate me... im not delusional, i know what this man is capable of. money may not be power, but buys a lot of powerful friends....yes, i.d say flying in air force one ranks him pretty hih on the politically connected list... Link to post Share on other sites
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