boldjack Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I don't want to keep you guys in suspense, so here goes. I broke a tooth. Not just broke, shattered. I have two choices. 1) an implant 2) a partial. Which would you choose and why? I already have an implant, and it hurts like hell, whenever I Eat or drink anything really hot. I don't understand why. There are no nerves in an implant, so how can it hurt? Link to post Share on other sites
quankanne Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 check with the dentist to see what's your best option in the long run ... nerve: Even though they're not connected to an implant, they're probably responding to the stimulus of heat/cold because the other teeth are, too. However, they'd seem to be more exposed because the endings remain in the carne, and the implant *could* act as a conductor? Link to post Share on other sites
Author boldjack Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 Well, it's not a matter of expense, but rather, one of permanence. I don't want to have to go back and have it done again. Link to post Share on other sites
marlena Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 BoldJack, Teeth problems are reallya royal pain the you-know-what. I have heard that some people's organisms reject implants while others are more amenable to them. Where's our resident dentist when you need her? Calling sb!! Talk to your dentist and see what he has to say. Get it fixed ASAP. Remember, you are leaving for the Aegean islands some time soon! Link to post Share on other sites
Author boldjack Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 Absolutely, wouldn't want anything to spoil our vacation, would we? Link to post Share on other sites
laRubiaBonita Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 which tooth? by partial you mean like a partial denture that can be removed? i would choose the implant personally, simply because it should help preserve your jaw bone..... but if you hate the one you have- i dunno. Link to post Share on other sites
freestyle Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Boldjack~ Please don't rush into the implant solution without being fully informed. I've been considering a few myself, until someone sent me an article about the downsides. I'll see if I can find it and post a link later today. Man, I feel for you, I'm all too familiar with that pain.In the meantime, a warm compress of chamomile tea (the teabag will do just fine) held on the afflicted area will provide some relief,and it acts as a natural anti-inflammatory. Link to post Share on other sites
freestyle Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 FWIW< here's the link. When this was first emailed to me, I was able to read the article, now there's a pop-up asking you to subscribe.............So my apologies..... http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/08/08/Be-VERY-Careful-When-Replacing-Missing-Teeth.aspx If this doesn't work for you,google may find other helpful articles. I hope you don't have to deal with the pain for too much longer, my heart goes out to you. One thing that helped me when I went through it was to sleep in my recliner, rather than lying flat.Keeping my head partly elevated seemed to lessen the pain. Good luck with whatever you decide. Link to post Share on other sites
Author boldjack Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 Freestyle- I went to the Oral surgeon, yesterday and had the roots removed, so it's not so bad now. Yes, please try to find that link. LRB, Jaw bone? Nobody told me anything about the jaw bone. What are you talking about? Link to post Share on other sites
freestyle Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Hey BJ, See above for the link~ As far as the jawbone- What I understand is that pulling teeth and replacing the space with dentures or a partial, causes the jawbone to deteriorate, where an implant helps to keep the jawbone in place. Have you ever noticed on an older person, when their dentures are out, their face looks slightly caved in? That's from the deterioration of the jawbone. If my link doesn't work, please try googling and reading some articles. I guess the titanium in the implants can cause a toxic reaction in some people. Bottom line, they're still working out the bugs, it's still a fairly new science. Good luck, amigo! Link to post Share on other sites
laRubiaBonita Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 LRB, Jaw bone? Nobody told me anything about the jaw bone. What are you talking about? As far as the jawbone- What I understand is that pulling teeth and replacing the space with dentures or a partial, causes the jawbone to deteriorate, where an implant helps to keep the jawbone in place. Have you ever noticed on an older person, when their dentures are out, their face looks slightly caved in? That's from the deterioration of the jawbone. sorta freestyle..... when people get dentures the teeth are pulled. over time if there are no teeth is the jaw, the jaw will start to receed- basically there is not a point of it being there anymore as there are no real teeth to support... plus the calcium isn't pumped in for your teeth saw the bone will receed. with implants it is set into your jaw, sorta faking out your jaw that there are teeth there and the bone will not receed, or at least not nearly as fast. i gots lots of dental work, over 20 crowns ..... so i always have such sympathy for dental/ oral issues. BJ- how did you break your tooth? and which tooth? (where) Link to post Share on other sites
anne1707 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Boldjack I think sb129 is a dentist - she might be able to help you better than most Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Use sensodine toothpaste! It will save your life! Yes, SB129 is a dentist, so hopefully she'll help you more with your tooth. Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) Interesting article, thanks for the link. (PS thanks for your advice PM yest boldjack!) Obviously more research needs to be done into some of the claims made in that article- the science attached to it wasn't particularly extensive- and one case doesn't make a rule. Claims such as "dental implants can cause cancer" and"immunological dysfunctions" are a little extreme and sensationalist in the absence of extensive research to back them up. A recommendation to DO research isn't enough either. Dental implants have been around for about 25-30 years and they have progressed hugely in that time. I am still not convinced re: the zirconia ones, as I just can't see how they would match titanium in strength. From a technical point of view, the construction of zirconia implants is very technique sensitive, and if its not done to a particular standard every time, microcracks can form in the zirconia which can propagate over time. Anyway as to your problem BJ- I personally would recommend an implant over a partial denture every time. What the others were saying about bone levels etc are true- an implant maintains the level of your jawbone just like a tooth does, while a denture causes it to recede. (What LRB said about calcium is new to me though..?) Another option is a bridge which is a tooth suspended between the teeth either side of the space, but these aren't as strong as implants and can compromise the teeth used to support it. You shouldn't be having pain from your other implant- that is not normal- has anyone looked into that for you? Where is it in your mouth? It may be impinging on a nerve, which shouldn't happen. Edited October 9, 2009 by sb129 Link to post Share on other sites
laRubiaBonita Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 (What LRB said about calcium is new to me though..?) actually i just kinda thought maybe that was what happened... possiby- it was just a thought. Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 s'ok! There are many old wives tales floating about out there about teeth/bones/ calcium. I have been told millions of times by patients and friends that pregnancy "sucks the calcium out of your teeth", which is a load of hooooey! -but I am trained and paid to know whats true about that kind of stuff and what isn't! Link to post Share on other sites
laRubiaBonita Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 here was my thought...... teeth and bones require calcium. but if the jaw id just there primarily to hold teeth and the teetha re no longer there, i would think your body would deem all that jaw bone as kind of unnecessary, and would stop allowing for so much calcium to go there and to let the jaw receed- since it's primary function as a tooth holder is no longer needed. just my theory. Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Can see where you are going with that- but the lower jawbone has many more functions than just holding your teeth in. Its a really complex area of the body, anatomically speaking. Its the attachment site for many of the muscles used in speaking, swallowing and eating, it houses the sensory and motor nerves for your lips/ tongue/ chin. The upper jaw bones protect your sinuses and are part of a complex that your brain, eyes and olefactory system (smell/taste) rest in. As for receding bone- the exact mechanism behind why is recedes when the teeth are gone isn't fully understood, so it may have something to do with that. Link to post Share on other sites
Author boldjack Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 Thanks to all, who responded,and I will take everything into consideration. BTW 129, I believe it's what is know as an "eye-tooth". whatever that means. Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 So its a canine tooth. Not a great tooth to replace with a bridge or a denture- its an important tooth in your bite. Link to post Share on other sites
Author boldjack Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 So, 129, you would go for the implant, right? But WTF about the pain in the other one? I don't want to have TWO teeth hurting.:confused: Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Yeah, I can see why you are concerned- but there shouldn't be any pain in the other implant. Have you had any explanation regarding the pain in the other implant? Link to post Share on other sites
Author boldjack Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 Oh no, My regular Dentist is in Naples. So I'm going to a (fill-in) quack, who doesn't know me and won't even hazard a guess. It's really annoying. Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 What about the person who put in the implant- was that your regular dentist? If its been hurting ever since it was put in, did you discuss that with anyone? Link to post Share on other sites
laRubiaBonita Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 As for receding bone- the exact mechanism behind why is recedes when the teeth are gone isn't fully understood, so it may have something to do with that. yep.... that was my thoughts with the teeth thing- i mean i know there a re other functions for the bone, which is why it doesn't go away.... it just scales back. So, 129, you would go for the implant, right? But WTF about the pain in the other one? I don't want to have TWO teeth hurting.:confused: BJ- i would second SB's opinion on getting an implant for that tooth- those are some important teeth, plus it a front tooth and it will get more use AND it is at one of the furthest points in the jaw. Link to post Share on other sites
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