TheLoneSock Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 And Eve the pinnacle of human downfall. The story goes on and on. Mwahahahaha Link to post Share on other sites
D-Lish Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Lol well Freud was an idiot. He also believed that women had sexual fantasies about their fathers... Freud is to Psychology as Jesus is to Christianity. Link to post Share on other sites
TheLoneSock Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 LOL, I actually really like Freud! He's fun to read, anyway... Indeed, you're right: If I remember correctly, he said that men up to a certain age sexually desire their mothers and women their fathers. Once we get to the age of reason and realize that our desire is morally wrong, we transfer the feelings we have for our father/mother onto a potential significant other. It's vastly interesting and I think true, to some extent. Are you saying you agree with him because of 'personal experience'? Lol Because I find nearly everything he has to say extremely odd. Maybe it's because I had ample other targets for my beginning sexual desires growing up, having grown up in a neighborhood with lots of girls my age. Link to post Share on other sites
always_searching Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Freud is to Psychology as Jesus is to Christianity. If you mean "The Father/Founder of," you are correct! Link to post Share on other sites
TheLoneSock Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Freud is to Psychology as Jesus is to Christianity. Blasphemy! Lol but yes if you mean as in foundation. Link to post Share on other sites
D-Lish Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Because I find nearly everything he has to say extremely odd. Have you read everything he has to say? Besides the Electra complex? As if anything Freud has to say is more "odd" than believing in a virgin birth. Link to post Share on other sites
always_searching Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Are you saying you agree with him because of 'personal experience'? Lol Because I find nearly everything he has to say extremely odd. Maybe it's because I had ample other targets for my beginning sexual desires growing up, having grown up in a neighborhood with lots of girls my age. Hahaha! Well, I don't want to have sex with my father, if that's what you mean. LOL, and since I can't remember prior to my having reason, I can't say whether Freud is correct on that front. However, I do tend to like men who are like my father--I actually created a thread on said topic: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t203730/?highlight=transference Link to post Share on other sites
TheLoneSock Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Have you read everything he has to say? Besides the Electra complex? As if anything Freud has to say is more "odd" than believing in a virgin birth. You're absolutely right, I should have said 'nearly everything about the Electra Complex'. Because once I read his EC theory I stopped reading about Freud all together, and wrote him off. And just because I don't agree with him doesn't mean I have any less reason to keep my faith intact about Mary. Link to post Share on other sites
TheLoneSock Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 (edited) Hahaha! Well, I don't want to have sex with my father, if that's what you mean. LOL, and since I can't remember prior to my having reason, I can't say whether Freud is correct on that front. However, I do tend to like men who are like my father--I actually created a thread on said topic: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t203730/?highlight=transference Ok that's good. I have met a few women who subconciously search for a man similar to their father, wether by looks or personality. They tended to be girls that had good relationships with their father, as in admiration wise- finding value in a man like him. Only a few though I have met many more that want something entirely different than their father. In your case it's the authority it seems. Is this a specific kind of authority, as in men in uniform or men that like to be in control? Or is it something different- like being a secondary father figure.. Edited October 20, 2009 by TheLoneSock Link to post Share on other sites
D-Lish Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 You're absolutely right, I should have said 'nearly everything about the Electra Complex'. Because once I read his EC theory I stopped reading about Freud all together, and wrote him off. And just because I don't agree with him doesn't mean I have any less reason to keep my faith intact about Mary. Well, a true academic would never stop reading...Ever. And to clarify- the mommy/daddy stuff is only a very small part of Freud. Super small part. I don't buy into everything about Freud, but he is the foundation of Psychology. And oh Jesus and Mary Joseph.... Keep that faith in Mary. I could care less. That virgin mother crap is all so meaningless where you are from right? Link to post Share on other sites
TheLoneSock Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 That virgin mother crap is all so meaningless where you are from right? I'm confused. Was this a real question? Do you know where I'm from? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Ross PK Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 (edited) Which religion are you referring to? 'God' is not always a he in some faiths. The religions where people think God is a he of course. And there's plenty of them, I don't think I have ever heard anyone refer to God as a 'she' or 'it'. Edited October 20, 2009 by Ross PK Link to post Share on other sites
Ms. Joolie Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I think the qualities that male and female exhibit are simply a reflection of the qualities of God, who is neither masculine or feminine, but who's qualities are divided in that way in human nature. And it really isn't a 'male/female' thing, but a 'masculine/feminine' one. For example, males can exhibit a feminine nature and females a masculine one. Beside the obvious physical deciding factor that shapes a man or woman and their display of their nature, there is also the biochemical properties (which includes thought) that are the deciding factors in the masculine or feminine behavior. Link to post Share on other sites
Ms. Joolie Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Oh, so I guess my answer to this thread would be that God is not a "he." That is just how we can recognize and identify with "him." And I think there would be no need for God to reproduce little gods. Although the story goes that God created the universe, and gives life to it, so in that way, we are part of that godly nature. Only a very tiny fraction of it, I imagine. Link to post Share on other sites
627 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 for christians, God is "father, son and holy spirit" and he is one... it's apparently a male somehow... my family is christian and I have been raised on this for years, I never understood it (hence I became agnostic ) I argued muslims before and they said that God is neither a he nor a she, God is genderless, in arabic God is not refered to in pronouns, however adjectives are the same used for males (we have a distinction in the adjectives) in short, I think the whole thing is a sexit thingy due to the fact that 2000 years ago up till the 19 th century or so, males dominated everything Link to post Share on other sites
Crusoe Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Why is God a he if he doesn't need to reproduce? I don't believe in God either, I believe in nature, Mother Nature and She is the one who gives life. Link to post Share on other sites
NoIDidn't Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 I don't believe God is a "he" or a "she". If one believes the Creation Story, God created humanity in his own image. Adam was neither male nor female UNTIL the Eve part was removed. Then there were male and female. I tend to believe the "language" theory too, though. I remember learning in Spanish class that a group of female friends are all amigas until ONE MALE is added. Then that group is referred to as amigos. I thought that was sexist until I found that almost all Romantic languages are that way. A culture thing. A male-dominated culture thing. Link to post Share on other sites
Toki Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Does it matter? While we're on the subject of debating whether or not god has any particular gender, I suppose I'll just say God is a smoking hot Asian Lady, I just don't find Morgan Freeman to be all that attractive. Link to post Share on other sites
sally4sara Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 I have often wondered at the paradox of Jesus needing to be born of a Virginal Mary to avoid "original sin"..... But that wasn't enough! MARY had to be born without "original sin" just to be able to BE the Holy Mother of Jesus..... So if the miracle of Jesus was that he was born to a virginal woman, why wasnt Mary the Daughter of God and a savior to all sinners? I smell a rat! Link to post Share on other sites
Toki Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 I have often wondered at the paradox of Jesus needing to be born of a Virginal Mary to avoid "original sin"..... But that wasn't enough! MARY had to be born without "original sin" just to be able to BE the Holy Mother of Jesus..... So if the miracle of Jesus was that he was born to a virginal woman, why wasnt Mary the Daughter of God and a savior to all sinners? I smell a rat! Isn't it obvious? God hates women... and people with dark skin, homosexuals, liberals, he basically just likes white men, and not the southern European darker off white, I mean pasty white, with bright blue eyes; I saw it in a picture once. Link to post Share on other sites
sally4sara Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Isn't it obvious? God hates women... and people with dark skin, homosexuals, liberals, he basically just likes white men, and not the southern European darker off white, I mean pasty white, with bright blue eyes; I saw it in a picture once. So, I see you've met the Mormons! I'm pretty sure they don't buy into that original sin dogma. They like the space Jesus and special underware instead. Link to post Share on other sites
LucreziaBorgia Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 The way I see it, God (the concept, not the 'character' in religious texts) is without gender. Gender is ascribed as a reflection of the people who write and interpret the scriptures, based on how a given society works. I honestly think that God (the concept) has been filtered through so much human understanding and misunderstanding that people seek the human interpretation of God rather than the actual concept that is behind all of the religious texts. JMO, and not meant to spark a debate. Link to post Share on other sites
Toki Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 So, I see you've met the Mormons! I'm pretty sure they don't buy into that original sin dogma. They like the space Jesus and special underware instead. A day in Salt Lake can turn a man bitter for life. ..Space Jesus... Link to post Share on other sites
FleshNBones Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 So, I see you've met the Mormons! I'm pretty sure they don't buy into that original sin dogma. They like the space Jesus and special underware instead.They don't believe in dancing, or celebrating birthdays. Link to post Share on other sites
Toki Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 They don't believe in dancing, or celebrating birthdays. You've mixed up the Mormons with the Jehova's Witnesses. Mormons are the ones who really really really like sex and secretly really really really wish abortion could be an option for them. Link to post Share on other sites
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