Male height in looks "rating"--Is 5'4" a "1"?

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So in conclusion, if a man rejected a woman because her breasts are too small, he's a shallow pig. However if a woman rejects a man taller than she is, but because he's not tall enough, that's just her preference. GOT IT!

 

 

Whoa, beta you need a breather. You need to reread what I wrote. I wrote both genders are shallow, I never said one gender was better than the other.

 

What you'd written is just biased. You just need to stop being so bitter.

[betamanlet]

Yeah but we're not saying that short men should be discriminated from jobs, or other things.

 

We're just talking about dating.

 

And short men in this country, have never taken from thier home country and forced to work as slaves, or made to sit in the back of the bus or anything like that.

 

Please don't try to turn this into something its not.

 

 

But they are though. Studies show that taller men are more likely to get hired and get promotions and higher pay just because of their height.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/Careers/02/02/cb.tall.people/

 

http://www.slate.com/?id=2063439

 

The thing is, short guys don't whine so much about this, and only whine about being rejected by women..

[lofi_tokyo]

 

 

If you're tall, you're something that can be shown off, yet the tallest guy in the world claims he can't get any dates...

 

I dated a 6'5 guy, and he had tons of problems getting dates. Still does! I also have some female friends that say they would prefer not to date a guy over say, 6'3 because he'd be too tall for them (one friend I have in mind is 5'1).

 

I'm 5'4, and my opinion on this whole height thing is:

I've dated three guys: first one was 6'1, second was 5'4, third was 6'5.

 

-I've date the 5'4 guy (for three years) and loved him to pieces. He did not, however, like when I wore heels. He didn't like feeling shorter than me. That wasn't a deal-breaker by any means for me at the time, but when I reflect on him disliking me wearing heels... well that sucked. I like wearing them (and I actually have to for work). Prior to meeting him, I probably would have said I don't date short guys, but he came into my life and swept me off my feet, so there you have it.

 

- As for Mr. 6'5 man. I LOVE that he was tall. I can't deny it! Is this "tall man worship?"... no I don't think so. I just thought it was cute how different in height we were... I guess that extra foot and then some made me feel more protected? Maybe that sounds silly, but its true! I go to very crowded concerts frequently, and being as small as I am, I often get lost in the crowd. 6'5 man, however, stands out in a crowd, and so if I was lost, I could find him easily, and moreover, if I was holding his hand, he could navigate us through crowded places. It was also handy getting him to reach things down from high places for me (lol). And FINALLY (I think this is the big seller for me): I love men that are athletes. A guy that can pick up any sport and do well in it is a real keeper to me, and lets face it: a lot of sports favor the tall guy.

Bad part of dating a guy that tall: (Well not too bad, but it just required a bit more effort) - sex! Our heights totally did not match up, and it killed a few positions for us. He was also pretty difficult to kiss spontaneously.

 

So! I can go both ways.

That being said, I still prefer taller guys. I wouldn't call it worship, or wanting to flaunt my big, tall man, so much as... me enjoying the practical applications of dating a tall guy. hahaha

[betamanlet]

Whoa, beta you need a breather. You need to reread what I wrote. I wrote both genders are shallow, I never said one gender was better than the other.

 

What you'd written is just biased. You just need to stop being so bitter.

 

 

I'm not the one one who holds against people what they have no control over. THe closest example you could give in comparison would be "well, you probably wouldn't date obese women" and while that's true, you do have control over your weight, but not your height. I've never known a guy to reject a woman because of her height, or breast size, or anything else she had no control over. I cannot say the same about women.

 

And what you said is not biased? Basically you said ther ewill be no short guys 20 years from now because they will be darwined out because women insisisting on tall men.. I'm so horrible! Please forgive me!

[MissJoness]

But they are though. Studies show that taller men are more likely to get hired and get promotions and higher pay just because of their height.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/Careers/02/02/cb.tall.people/

 

http://www.slate.com/?id=2063439

 

The thing is, short guys don't whine so much about this, and only whine about being rejected by women..

 

No one is saying that its okay for them to be discriminated against for jobs, and higher salary. And if it were that much of a problem, I think there would be some kind of short man movement. Obviously there isn't.

 

Anyway, we're just saying that its okay for some women to not want to date them. That's all.

[MissJoness]

I'm not the one one who holds against people what they have no control over. THe closest example you could give in comparison would be "well, you probably wouldn't date obese women" and while that's true, you do have control over your weight, but not your height. I've never known a guy to reject a woman because of her height, or breast size, or anything else she had no control over. I cannot say the same about women.

 

And what you said is not biased? Basically you said ther ewill be no short guys 20 years from now because they will be darwined out because women insisisting on tall men.. I'm so horrible! Please forgive me!

What is your height?

[lofi_tokyo]

So in conclusion, if a man rejected a woman because her breasts are too small, he's a shallow pig. However if a woman rejects a man taller than she is, but because he's not tall enough, that's just her preference. GOT IT!

 

I totally wouldn't care if a guy rejected me because of my breast size. We all have our preferred body types! I have male friends that prefer big, curvaceous ,girls, and guy friends that like girls that are super slender have have athletic bodies.

 

We like what we like. I'm not going to judge you if you dislike a part of my appearance - there are other men out there who may find it sexy!

 

I have short hair, for instance, and while the general concencous seems to be that I pull it off very well - some guys instantly friend-zone me based on my hair alone, and thats okay. I respect who they are, and I realize that my appearance just doesn't appeal to everyone.

[betamanlet]

What is your height?

 

 

I'm 5'10...........

[MissJoness]

I'm 5'10...........

 

what are you so upset for? you're not even short.

[betamanlet]

I totally wouldn't care if a guy rejected me because of my breast size. We all have our preferred body types! I have male friends that prefer big, curvaceous ,girls, and guy friends that like girls that are super slender have have athletic bodies.

 

We like what we like. I'm not going to judge you if you dislike a part of my appearance - there are other men out there who may find it sexy!

 

I have short hair, for instance, and while the general concencous seems to be that I pull it off very well - some guys instantly friend-zone me based on my hair alone, and thats okay. I respect who they are, and I realize that my appearance just doesn't appeal to everyone.

 

 

I absoluletely love short hair on women, but it's not a requirement. That with glasses, unggh. I'm like putty.

[CaliGuy]

I dont expect women to want to date guy shorter then them but women who wont date someobdy their the same size or an inch taller then them in 4 or 5 inch heels sounds hillarious to me

 

You do realize that women do NOT judge men's height based on their own height, they base it on the height of OTHER MEN, right???

 

This is why you will often see women <5'5" dating or requiring a man be >6'. It's why I often see 5'3" girls with 6'4" guys. Granted to me it never looks right, some women -- regardless of their own height -- want tall guys. A lot of this may have to do with their own height insecurities as they might feel a tall man is better apt to protect them (there is no verifiable proof that height = win the fight, this is just the natural law of survival encoded into a woman's membrane) it's just the way they think.

 

I've also noticed that tall/taller women care less about height than shorter women do. This, I believe, has to do with two things:

 

1. Taller women will naturally have taller children with an average or shorter than average man than shorter women will have with average or shorter than average men.

2. Taller women can and are often more secure in their height and therefore don't feel the need to be "protected" as much as shorter women do.

 

All of this surrounds a woman's natural, basic needs with procreation. As much as I would like to believe that humanity has overcome the basic laws of survival, statistics have proven otherwise.

 

Men can overcome some of the issues with height by being confident, self-assured, funny and easy going. Insecurity, neediness, clingy behavior, etc (all centered around a lack of confidence/self-esteem) will always push women away.

 

If you are a shorter guy but confident and self-assured then you need to use other avenues to get yourself in front of available women. Using online dating wouldn't be the preferred method to meet women. You need to let your natural charm and confidence win them over and not rely on a very impersonal online dating profile to do the work for you.

 

Cheers.

[lofi_tokyo]

 

And what you said is not biased? Basically you said ther ewill be no short guys 20 years from now because they will be darwined out because women insisisting on tall men.. I'm so horrible! Please forgive me!

 

 

If a short woman marries a tall man, her child could still be short. So short men will not be "dariwined" away by the choices women make.

 

Also, the human population has been getting taller for centuries! The short gene is recessive, I believe, and so regardless of the choices women (or men) are making, being 5'4 may one day be extremely irregular.

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I totally wouldn't care if a guy rejected me because of my breast size. We all have our preferred body types! I have male friends that prefer big, curvaceous ,girls, and guy friends that like girls that are super slender have have athletic bodies.

 

We like what we like. I'm not going to judge you if you dislike a part of my appearance - there are other men out there who may find it sexy!

 

I have short hair, for instance, and while the general concencous seems to be that I pull it off very well - some guys instantly friend-zone me based on my hair alone, and thats okay. I respect who they are, and I realize that my appearance just doesn't appeal to everyone.

 

Exactly Tokyo.

 

I have short hair as well, and my ex once told me to grow out my hair because he " preferred" long hair. That's one example.

 

The point is everyone live according to themselves, and have their own style, etc. Whether it be height, weight or whatever, some people will like them, some will not. That's the fact of life. And people just live with it.

[AD1980]

I totally wouldn't care if a guy rejected me because of my breast size. We all have our preferred body types! I have male friends that prefer big, curvaceous ,girls, and guy friends that like girls that are super slender have have athletic bodies.

 

We like what we like. I'm not going to judge you if you dislike a part of my appearance - there are other men out there who may find it sexy!

 

I have short hair, for instance, and while the general concencous seems to be that I pull it off very well - some guys instantly friend-zone me based on my hair alone, and thats okay. I respect who they are, and I realize that my appearance just doesn't appeal to everyone.

 

Wel all have perefneces which is what makes the world go round

 

I think the thing that annoys shorter men as oppsoed to breast size or hair size or color is that women not wanting non tall men esems to be the closest thing you can get to the majority of a gender having that same preference

 

Most women do ont want guys under a certain height..Cant expect shorter guys to enjoy the fact that out the gate theres the majority of women who wont give em a chance off that alone..

 

Height of a Man seems to be the biggest physical dealbreaker in the dating world

[betamanlet]

If a short woman marries a tall man, her child could still be short. So short men will not be "dariwined" away by the choices women make.

 

Also, the human population has been getting taller for centuries! The short gene is recessive, I believe, and so regardless of the choices women (or men) are making, being 5'4 may one day be extremely irregular.

 

 

I've been to Thailand, Vietnam, and Japan, and I was a giant compared to people there, and I'm just average height here. I really doubt worldwide people will get that much taller.. Latin America is the same way..

[Lishy]

This is all getting so twisted!

 

What on earth makes it ok to judge my deal breakers? I have dated ugly fat guys who made me laugh and I loved them to pieces. I am not about looks at all BUT I could never date a guy who I towered over, I would feel the need to rest my elbow on their head! I want, no I NEED to be with a guy bigger than me! I would not date a guy whose shirt would be like a belly warmer on me!

 

That is MY preference but saying that I know a girl who is 6ft 2 and dates guys much shorter with no problems!

 

Being short can be a problem, being fat can be a problem, having a big nose could be a problem to SOME people but not all!

 

My friend cannot and will not date a guy with flaring nostrils or thin lips! That is her deal breaker and although its weird its aboout what she wants.

[betamanlet]

Wel all have perefneces which is what makes the world go round

 

I think the thing that annoys shorter men as oppsoed to breast size or hair size or color is that women not wanting non tall men esems to be the closest thing you can get to the majority of a gender having that same preference

 

Most women do ont want guys under a certain height..Cant expect shorter guys to enjoy the fact that out the gate theres the majority of women who wont give em a chance off that alone..

 

Height of a Man seems to be the biggest physical dealbreaker in the dating world

 

Well, they could compensate with a criminal record. I think Charles Manson is only 5'4 and he has adoring women..

[lofi_tokyo]

I've been to Thailand, Vietnam, and Japan, and I was a giant compared to people there, and I'm just average height here. I really doubt worldwide people will get that much taller.. Latin America is the same way..

 

I think it already IS getting taller though? I may be wrong, but if you look at average heights of bones from say 300 years ago, people were a lot shorter as a whole. Thats what I thought I read anyways...

[betamanlet]

This is all getting so twisted!

 

What on earth makes it ok to judge my deal breakers? I have dated ugly fat guys who made me laugh and I loved them to pieces. I am not about looks at all BUT I could never date a guy who I towered over, I would feel the need to rest my elbow on their head! I want, no I NEED to be with a guy bigger than me! I would not date a guy whose shirt would be like a belly warmer on me!

 

That is MY preference but saying that I know a girl who is 6ft 2 and dates guys much shorter with no problems!

 

Being short can be a problem, being fat can be a problem, having a big nose could be a problem to SOME people but not all!

 

My friend cannot and will not date a guy with flaring nostrils or thin lips! That is her deal breaker and although its weird its aboout what she wants.

 

I think only a small % of men can afford to be that picky. It's much more difficult for the average man to date than the average woman.

[SophieA]

I'm 5'11" and every guy I've dated (sans my current bf) has been shorter than me.

[AD1980]

You do realize that women do NOT judge men's height based on their own height, they base it on the height of OTHER MEN, right???

 

This is why you will often see women <5'5" dating or requiring a man be >6'. It's why I often see 5'3" girls with 6'4" guys. Granted to me it never looks right, some women -- regardless of their own height -- want tall guys. A lot of this may have to do with their own height insecurities as they might feel a tall man is better apt to protect them (there is no verifiable proof that height = win the fight, this is just the natural law of survival encoded into a woman's membrane) it's just the way they think.

 

I've also noticed that tall/taller women care less about height than shorter women do. This, I believe, has to do with two things:

 

1. Taller women will naturally have taller children with an average or shorter than average man than shorter women will have with average or shorter than average men.

2. Taller women can and are often more secure in their height and therefore don't feel the need to be "protected" as much as shorter women do.

 

All of this surrounds a woman's natural, basic needs with procreation. As much as I would like to believe that humanity has overcome the basic laws of survival, statistics have proven otherwise.

 

Men can overcome some of the issues with height by being confident, self-assured, funny and easy going. Insecurity, neediness, clingy behavior, etc (all centered around a lack of confidence/self-esteem) will always push women away.

 

If you are a shorter guy but confident and self-assured then you need to use other avenues to get yourself in front of available women. Using online dating wouldn't be the preferred method to meet women. You need to let your natural charm and confidence win them over and not rely on a very impersonal online dating profile to do the work for you.

 

Cheers.

 

Ddint you tell me last night women arent visual yet u say that when things like height are so important and how they compare other mens heights??

 

And i dont think its all hardwired into their brain and instinctual to women i tihnk allot of it is learned..

 

You dont think the whole Tall Dark and handsome and short fat and bald lines ingrained into women sicne theyre little doesnt make a difference??

[lofi_tokyo]

 

Height of a Man seems to be the biggest physical dealbreaker in the dating world

 

I understand where that fustration is coming from. The 6'5 guy I dated doesn't have much of a personality - but he has women fauning over him, presumably in part because of his height. If he had that personality and was say, 5'4, like my other ex, he probably wouldn't have many women chasing after him at all.

 

That being said, my 5'4 ex is a lady killer! His personality is awesome and he seems to have no problem meeting women.

 

So I guess short men need to compensate by having a better personality.

[xpaperxcutx]

I think only a small % of men can afford to be that picky. It's much more difficult for the average man to date than the average woman.

 

That's an understatement. Men are picky just not in height. They're picky about body type, if a women is curvy, they'll say she's fat. If a women is skinny, they'll say she's not busty enough. Men not picky? The first thing they base off a women is her body and whether she looks good naked.

 

I also remember a while back there was a thread about a girl with a tiny mustache and the OP seeing it as a dealbreaker.

[AD1980]

I understand where that fustration is coming from. The 6'5 guy I dated doesn't have much of a personality - but he has women fauning over him, presumably in part because of his height. If he had that personality and was say, 5'4, like my other ex, he probably wouldn't have many women chasing after him at all.

 

That being said, my 5'4 ex is a lady killer! His personality is awesome and he seems to have no problem meeting women.

 

So I guess short men need to compensate by having a better personality.

 

 

 

Im only an inch or so below the average im not a midget or anyhtign but i have to be that much better a person then a guy becasue ehs afew inches taller the me??

 

Can you undertsand why that puzzles us??

 

Thast why i think women are more shallow..Guys dont have a physical dealbraker as BIG as that..

[betamanlet]

I think it already IS getting taller though? I may be wrong, but if you look at average heights of bones from say 300 years ago, people were a lot shorter as a whole. Thats what I thought I read anyways...

 

 

I'm sure people are getting taller, but there's still a limit. I don't think people from Latin America are ever going to be remotely as tall as people from the Netherlands are....

 

I've never felt so bad for someone in my entire life, when I was in Copenhagen, and there was this guy on the Bus I was on, someone dropped a stinkbomb, I almost puked, and he overheard my friend and I speaking english and started talking. This guy is a Dane, in a country of giants, and he was only 5'5. I was a midget in Denmark, and this guy made me seem like a giant. poor guy.