Male height in looks "rating"--Is 5'4" a "1"?

[lofi_tokyo]

Im only an inch or so below the average im not a midget or anyhtign but i have to be that much better a person then a guy becasue ehs afew inches taller the me??

 

Can you undertsand why that puzzles us??

 

Thast why i think women are more shallow..Guys dont have a physical dealbraker as BIG as that..

 

 

I dunno... I know a few guys who wouldn't date a 6'0+ girl. They like their girls a bit more tiny. Men do it too, though I suppose its less common because being a "tall and skinny" girl means you have the features of a "model", right? So its not exactly the same as being a short man.

[AD1980]

I dunno... I know a few guys who wouldn't date a 6'0+ girl. They like their girls a bit more tiny. Men do it too, though I suppose its less common because being a "tall and skinny" girl means you have the features of a "model", right? So its not exactly the same as being a short man.

 

Im just saying it sucks that i have to be some suepr human amazing guy to get a girls attention and your saying all a tall guy has to be is ok to get a women

 

Jesus why is height THAT important??

 

Seems more then a pereference to a women..They seem to treat it like f'in gold

[betamanlet]

That's an understatement. Men are picky just not in height. They're picky about body type, if a women is curvy, they'll say she's fat. If a women is skinny, they'll say she's not busty enough. Men not picky? The first thing they base off a women is her body and whether she looks good naked.

 

I also remember a while back there was a thread about a girl with a tiny mustache and the OP seeing it as a dealbreaker.

 

 

I think in general, maybe it's the area I live in, but women are vastly more picky than men. A couple years ago I heard some women complaining that there were no good men left, and I overheard them discuss what they wanted, what constituted a good man while the bartender and I just sat there and laughed. It turns out they required a man to be at least 6'3, make over $300,000 a year, and preferably have an English accent. This is in Washington, DC, so I don't know how many giant rich english guys there are here, but I don't think there are that many that meet all of those requirements. I've never seen men to be this picky.

[betamanlet]

Im just saying it sucks that i have to be some suepr human amazing guy to get a girls attention and your saying all a tall guy has to be is ok to get a women

 

Jesus why is height THAT important??

 

Seems more then a pereference to a women..They seem to treat it like f'in gold

 

 

They need to show off. It's all about insecurity. Never underestimate how insecure most women are, and what it drives them to do.

[AD1980]

They need to show off. It's all about insecurity. Never underestimate how insecure most women are, and what it drives them to do.

 

I agree.What are you gonna do..At least we filter out most of these goofy women with lack of height

 

When i do find someobdy it will be one of the few who doesnt pick her mate to balance her own insecurities..

 

She look at me as a person not an accesory

[betamanlet]

I agree.What are you gonna do..At least we filter out most of these goofy women with lack of height

 

When i do find someobdy it will be one of the few who doesnt pick her mate to balance her own insecurities..

 

She look at me as a person not an accesory

 

 

I wish you the best of luck, and feel bad for all of those poor tiny dogs that fit in handbags that live the life of an accessory.

[edinsvet]

Hi.

 

I am 5'7, and yes it is a huge disadvantage. For you it must be worse. Women like taller guys. Taller guys make more money. People trust taller guys etc. etc. And I asked a bunch of girls and they all said Yes height is extremely important, but what can you do?

 

So I tried some shoe lifts. WHOOOOAAAA!!!!!!!! The difference was huge. I loved being taller. And I started getting more looks from women. I have been doing it for over 10 years. I usually forget how short I really am because I am almost always wearing them.

 

I used company called Rich-Lee shoe company. They are OK. I wouldn't recommend their shoes they are not so great, but you can buy just the inserts from them. Jago Europe is a little better but twice the price. Both companies have shoes that can make you 3" taller. If you put an extra insert or two you can go a full 4" to 5" taller.

 

Now what I usually do is buy a high shoe or low boot 2 or 3 sizes too big and then put 4 inserts inside. I cut the inserts in half with a scissor so my feet still fit. The end result is I can walk comfortably in a nice shoe that I like, and I am 4 Inches taller. I am limited in my selection of shoes and in the summer my feet get hot, but I don't care. Being taller is definitely worth it. You will also be limited in what pants you can buy you will need a few inches longer than your normal size. I talked a few of my short friends into doing it and they are all hooked as well.

 

Here is the crazy thing. Nobody Notices!!! People I knew for 20 years my mother, my brother who was always taller than me.. Nobody noticed that I grew 4 inches. You will notice. Girls will notice. But your friends co-workers and family will not. They usually see something is different and ask if you lost weight or have been working out. Eventually I tell people, but I tell them when I want to tell them.

 

As far as women go and being honest with them. They only find out when I want them to know. After over 10 years none of them ever had a problem with it. By the time I let them know we already are in a relationship. And it is just a detail.

 

One funny story. One time a girl asked me when we were in bed and she noticed my shoes on the floor where I got such shoes. Well she had a bra that gave her an extra 2" around the chest so I said. From the same store wear you buy your bras. We both laughed.

 

Also the women are almost all wearing heels. So a girl who is 5'2 with 5" heels (and most 5'2 girls wear big heels) will tower over you. And you are really taller than them.

 

BTW. Tom Cruise, Woody Harrelson, and Sylvester Stallone all wear them.

 

Try it! You will like it.

[betamanlet]

Hi.

 

I am 5'7, and yes it is a huge disadvantage. For you it must be worse. Women like taller guys. Taller guys make more money. People trust taller guys etc. etc. And I asked a bunch of girls and they all said Yes height is extremely important, but what can you do?

 

So I tried some shoe lifts. WHOOOOAAAA!!!!!!!! The difference was huge. I loved being taller. And I started getting more looks from women. I have been doing it for over 10 years. I usually forget how short I really am because I am almost always wearing them.

 

I used company called Rich-Lee shoe company. They are OK. I wouldn't recommend their shoes they are not so great, but you can buy just the inserts from them. Jago Europe is a little better but twice the price. Both companies have shoes that can make you 3" taller. If you put an extra insert or two you can go a full 4" to 5" taller.

 

Now what I usually do is buy a high shoe or low boot 2 or 3 sizes too big and then put 4 inserts inside. I cut the inserts in half with a scissor so my feet still fit. The end result is I can walk comfortably in a nice shoe that I like, and I am 4 Inches taller. I am limited in my selection of shoes and in the summer my feet get hot, but I don't care. Being taller is definitely worth it. You will also be limited in what pants you can buy you will need a few inches longer than your normal size. I talked a few of my short friends into doing it and they are all hooked as well.

 

Here is the crazy thing. Nobody Notices!!! People I knew for 20 years my mother, my brother who was always taller than me.. Nobody noticed that I grew 4 inches. You will notice. Girls will notice. But your friends co-workers and family will not. They usually see something is different and ask if you lost weight or have been working out. Eventually I tell people, but I tell them when I want to tell them.

 

As far as women go and being honest with them. They only find out when I want them to know. After over 10 years none of them ever had a problem with it. By the time I let them know we already are in a relationship. And it is just a detail.

 

One funny story. One time a girl asked me when we were in bed and she noticed my shoes on the floor where I got such shoes. Well she had a bra that gave her an extra 2" around the chest so I said. From the same store wear you buy your bras. We both laughed.

 

Also the women are almost all wearing heels. So a girl who is 5'2 with 5" heels (and most 5'2 girls wear big heels) will tower over you. And you are really taller than them.

 

BTW. Tom Cruise, Woody Harrelson, and Sylvester Stallone all wear them.

 

Try it! You will like it.

 

What happens with the clothes and the shoes come off and you don't have the money or celebrity that Tom Cruise and Stallone have?

[OpenGL]

This same thread shows up at least once a week and is always at least 10 pages.

 

That in itself kind of illustrates out important the issue of height is with men. At 5'7 I'm disadvantage but still tall enough to have a decent selection of women. If I were 5'4 or below I would seriously consider surgery.

[boogieboy]

I think in general, maybe it's the area I live in, but women are vastly more picky than men. A couple years ago I heard some women complaining that there were no good men left, and I overheard them discuss what they wanted, what constituted a good man while the bartender and I just sat there and laughed. It turns out they required a man to be at least 6'3, make over $300,000 a year, and preferably have an English accent. This is in Washington, DC, so I don't know how many giant rich english guys there are here, but I don't think there are that many that meet all of those requirements. I've never seen men to be this picky.

 

Keep in mind those women who you hear them say they are picky, really arent that picky...they just wait for guys to come to them. They dont initiate anything. Also their preferences are beyond what they can reasonably get. They want guys that are more attractive than they are. So they stay lonely in the bar and complain.

 

 

I have been contemplating getting lifts in my shoes. Can never be too tall.

[edinsvet]

What happens with the clothes and the shoes come off and you don't have the money or celebrity that Tom Cruise and Stallone have?

 

I get undressed on the bed. I take my shoes off and put them out of sight. Lying in Bed you can't really tell how tall someone is. Usually after a few months they realize something is odd or I leave my shoes in an odd place. But bu that time it really doesn't matter anymore. And I don't have the money Tom Cruise and Stallone have.

[betamanlet]

I get undressed on the bed. I take my shoes off and put them out of sight. Lying in Bed you can't really tell how tall someone is. Usually after a few months they realize something is odd or I leave my shoes in an odd place. But bu that time it really doesn't matter anymore. And I don't have the money Tom Cruise and Stallone have.

 

 

I have a serious problem with being dishonest with people. I couldn't do that. You don't ever walk around barefoot around a woman? take a shower together? If I've done those things, then you must have also.. they'll notice a height difference..

Edited November 4, 2009 by a LoveShack.org Moderator

[edinsvet]

Yeah I do all of these things walk around take a shower. I usually stand on my tip toes. Anyway most of the time they were wearing a few inch heels also so the height difference is the same when both of those shoes are off. And I don't need to do anything special.

 

I have never had any complaints or issues with this. But I suppose it is a matter of personal choice.

 

I posted that information becuase it worked for me. For you I wouldn't recommend it because I already see you are not comfortable. If you don't feel comfortable don't do it.

[betamanlet]

Yeah I do all of these things walk around take a shower. I usually stand on my tip toes. Anyway most of the time they were wearing a few inch heels also so the height difference is the same when both of those shoes are off. And I don't need to do anything special.

 

I have never had any complaints or issues with this. But I suppose it is a matter of personal choice.

 

I posted that information becuase it worked for me. For you I wouldn't recommend it because I already see you are not comfortable. If you don't feel comfortable don't do it.

 

 

I'm 5'10, so it's not really that big of a deal to me. when women are picky about height for me, I'd need to be on stilts anyways..

[Skump]

I think it already IS getting taller though? I may be wrong, but if you look at average heights of bones from say 300 years ago, people were a lot shorter as a whole. Thats what I thought I read anyways...

 

FWIW, last I checked, in much of the West and industrialized Asia, the trend is actually toward smaller men at this point. The height bonuses due to adequate nutrition have been realized, and now sedentary lifestyles and high fat/carb diets are taking their toll.

[edinsvet]

It really seems due to being brainwashed by society. The attraction obviously isn't biological, because if it was 100% biological they would be more attracted to the buff 5'6 guy than the beanpole 6 foot guy. So it hs to be something else, and it's most likely the fact that it's been embedded into their minds that a guy must be "tall, dark, handsome". I wish women would ****ing realize they are being idiots instead of trying to blame it on genetics or something.

 

This would also explain why in other cultures this height ideals about men is nowhere near what it is in the west.

 

 

It is Biological. They will be more attracted to the 6 foot guy. They have conducted a bunch of tests about this. They put unattractive very tall guys without a lot of money against strikingly handsome shorter guys that were also rich and buff. All the girls in the test picked the tall guys.

[justforfun]

But what would her friends think?

 

Okay, the reailty here, is that women are far more picky, far more shallow than men could ever dream to be, and for the stupidest of reasons. To impress friends they don't even like. They love showing off. Do men care about shoes or handbags? Of course not. Women get that stuff like they like to be seen hanging off tall men... It's about insecurities and trying to impress others due to their insecurities.

 

The reality of this is basic biological drive. We are hard wired to be attracted to qualities that represent virility, strength and a host of other things that would make for good breeding and providing.

 

This is because although society has moved at a phenomenal rate in the last 10,000 years that is too quick for the evolution of our brains to catch up.

 

Henceforth we will judge attractiveness based on certain characteristics for many thousands of years to come.

Edited November 2, 2009 by a LoveShack.org Moderator
Wondering why I responded to this plonker

[justforfun]

LMAO are you kidding me? Guys have absolutely NO bias about a womans height unless they are extremely short or extremely tall. You have no idea what a short guy goes through thanks to girls like YOU who have retarded standards. Taller than you when you're wearing heels? What kinda bull**** is this?

 

And you are reacting to a post about women not being attracted to very short men by stating that men aren't attracted to very short women.

 

How did this thread manage to pull in so many ignoramuses?

 

**next you'll be telling us how shallow we are for wanting men with large penises.

 

* can you please refrain from using the word r#t@rd#d. It's extremely offensive and really not something I would expect to hear outside of grade school.

[justforfun]

I wish you the best of luck, and feel bad for all of those poor tiny dogs that fit in handbags that live the life of an accessory.

 

What do you expect us to do? Get a tiny man and use him as an accessory?

[AD1980]

You're a twat.

 

The reality of this is basic biological drive. We are hard wired to be attracted to qualities that represent virility, strength and a host of other things that would make for good breeding and providing.

 

This is because although society has moved at a phenomenal rate in the last 10,000 years that is too quick for the evolution of our brains to catch up.

 

Henceforth we will judge attractiveness based on certain characteristics for many thousands of years to come.

 

Sounds like an excuse to demand a tall partner..What about the girls who dont care about a mana height was it not hardwired into their brain??

[cognac]

The height thing is truly insane, I agree with all the guys in this thread. Height is the number one thing 90% of women in first world nations are hung up on but there are also other biological traits of men that they hate:

 

Asian men (unless they are tall and very muscular)

Red haired men

Lower middle class men

Balding men

 

But the short man gets a special place in a woman's to-hate/unattractive list. He is #1 and if you're short with any of the other traits I named above you are doomed with women. Women see men as fashion accessories to compliment her real love of her life (clothes, jewelry and other trinkets).

 

 

Seems that dating in the industrial world is a world of inferiority complex's and eccentricities, women are the ones who are most insecure in their own skin and buy into the TV and Magazines idea of what beauty is. The Ginger woman dating the redhaired man is almost unheard of. The Americanized (and many times unamericanized ) Asian woman lusts after the tall white man (no matter how retarded or ugly he is). The blonde will only date brunettes. And finally, the short (no matter how short) woman will only settle for guys 6 feet and up no matter what else the under 5'10 guy has to offer.

 

On the other hand, women bringing up completely moot points about breast size, weight, and face are silly:

 

1) I have never heard or met a man who rejected a woman simply based on her breast size. Sure men will comment on it, and maybe a nice rack is a bonus, but if they like a girl they won't put her in the friend zone because of her breast size like virtually all women do to guys who are not tall. You can't even begin to compare it to how common the height issue is in the dating scene.

 

2) Weight. Yes it's true men don't like fat women generally (although you'll still find men who do) and yes the situation of fat women is similar to short men. However, women fail to mention that they don't like fat guys either. Fat people are unnattractive to both sexes equally, and generally speaking this is a very correctable problem.

 

3) Yes men like pretty women or atleast average looking women. Another moot point as women like handsome men.

 

 

 

For every preference men have, women have a thousand DEALBREAKERS. I'lleven go as far as saying that I don't really care if a woman chooses a tall guy over a short guy all else being equal (if it's that "Hot" to her) but when the general concensus of women is that a tall janitor needs to be a child murderer in order for her to find a short, yet more intelligent, more succesful, more funny, more handsome nobel prize winning DOCTOR attractive, that's when we shorter than average guys become bitter and hurt. Even then, I bet women will just say that in public, secretly I bet they still prefer to the tall child murderer.

 

The fact that women, together, feel that a short guy who is great in every way is a lesser man/some kind of freak of nature, is the biggest insult.

 

 

I won't even sink my teeth into the 10000 character traits and financial status women demand after you jump through her physical trait hoop of fire.

[cognac]

Frankly my dear, you are talking bollocks

 

Why is it bullocks? The 5'6 guy who is muscular will always be stronger than the 6'2 90lb beanpole I see getting the best dates on every corner. If it was about protection, the 5'6 guy would win out. Not to mention a thousand other biological advantages to being short (needing less food, less health problems, etc).

 

The truth women don't want to admit is that they nowadays see men only as a compliment to their fashionable heels. They love inanimate superficial items like shoes more than they love people.

[Pedigree]

The height thing is truly insane, I agree with all the guys in this thread. Height is the number one thing 90% of women in first world nations are hung up on but there are also other biological traits of men that they hate:

 

Asian men (unless they are tall and very muscular)

Red haired men

Lower middle class men

Balding men

 

What about the whole balding= more testosterone thing?

[boogieboy]

I have a serious problem with being dishonest with people. I couldn't do that. You don't ever walk around barefoot around a woman? take a shower together? Christ, if I've done those things, then you must have also.. they'll notice a height difference..

 

Youre an admitted social paraplegic, dishonest should be last on your list of problems.

[betamanlet]

And you are reacting to a post about women not being attracted to very short men by stating that men aren't attracted to very short women.

 

How did this thread manage to pull in so many ignoramuses?

 

**next you'll be telling us how shallow we are for wanting men with large penises.

 

* can you please refrain from using the word r#t@rd#d. It's extremely offensive and really not something I would expect to hear outside of grade school.

 

 

 

Congrats, three ad hominem attacks in a row. Do you have something to contribute besides insulting the posters? HOw come your little theory doesn't have a footnote saying it doesn't apply to latinas or asian women, who date short men?