Male height in looks "rating"--Is 5'4" a "1"?

[cognac]

Anyone of you guys have this happen to you:

 

You're sitting in class/the bar/on the bus/ anywhere, and there's like 3 girls checking you out, then all of a sudden you stand up and all of these girls you saw from the corner of your eye checking you out, then roll their eyes and look grossed out.

 

I guess it's one of those things I will never understand, how can you be so repulsive to women just by being 2 inches shorter than the average? Imagine if we looked at every woman 2 inches above average (since women claim men don't like tall girls which is B.S.) at 5'6 as gross or attributed masculine traits to them.

[kizik]

Anyone of you guys have this happen to you:

 

You're sitting in class/the bar/on the bus/ anywhere, and there's like 3 girls checking you out, then all of a sudden you stand up and all of these girls you saw from the corner of your eye checking you out, then roll their eyes and look grossed out.

 

No. And I think you're being self-defeating and paranoid. Stop looking for people to find you unattractive! And who cares if they do, anyway.

[AD1980]

Anyone of you guys have this happen to you:

 

You're sitting in class/the bar/on the bus/ anywhere, and there's like 3 girls checking you out, then all of a sudden you stand up and all of these girls you saw from the corner of your eye checking you out, then roll their eyes and look grossed out.

 

I guess it's one of those things I will never understand, how can you be so repulsive to women just by being 2 inches shorter than the average? Imagine if we looked at every woman 2 inches above average (since women claim men don't like tall girls which is B.S.) at 5'6 as gross or attributed masculine traits to them.

 

Between the million other demands women have,this height thing,the scent of a smell that has to be on a man ive just learned to live with the fact that women are goofy creatures you just have to deal with it..

[AD1980]

Tall is just sexy we shouldnt have to explain our preferences to you guys it is what it is.

 

Short men can still get average or below avergae women learn to embrace it,bottom line is all women fantasize about tall knights in the shining armor

 

Even short guys who get women your women is probably fantasizing that she was with a tall guy,they have that much power over us:love:

 

Hate to rain on your little parade sweetie but no matter how hot you are we men easily get bored of you physically..

 

Youre man at some point has grown tired of having sex with you and pictured somebody elses face on youre body when having sex to get him going..

 

All women have to deal with this..But im sure since your all such secure creatures this tidbit wont bother any of you...

[kizik]

Hey short guys, what MeganDoll said is true - all women prefer tall guys. Accept it, deal with it, use your charm, or just club girls over the head or put roofies in their drinks. It's the American way.

[Mook]

How tall are you? If you are 5'2-5'6, it is the equivalent of a fat guy saying he won't date fat women , because it's "out of his control". Certainly we'd all laugh at how ridiculous he is.

 

And while women have the right to whatever preference they want, I don't understand why they aren't treated as ridiculous, laughable, and insane like society treats men who only date girls with big tits, fat guys who only want to date skinny girls, etc. I think that it has more to do with the fact that society overlooks it, more than what women can or cannot control. If society made such women feel ridiculous for being 5'1 yet not dating anyone under 5'9 (which it should) I get the feeling most women would change their point of view.

 

It's a poor comparison. You can make your hair blonde in a matter of minutes, and even then ,there is no evidence that your hair color is a dealbreaker with men. Most men I know happily date brunettes and blondes equally, and considering most blondes are out of the bottle, even the blondes they date are brunette! Unlike women, who think twice about going out with a blonde guy, and puke at the thought of even being seen in public with a ginger.

 

I have yet to see a man in real life or on the internet who is in his 40's asking for only women under 30 (unless he is very wealthy) or who ask women to have a minimum of a C cup (Again, unless very wealthy). However, I rarely see a profile where women do not atleast hint that they only go out with tall guys.

 

I am 5'10" yes womens preference is treated as ridiculous, laughable and insane because our height is our height we can't change our height. But on the other hand weight is loosable if the lady wants to lose the weight she can but again our height is our damn height. That's why men get so upset with women scoffing at men's height and refuse to date shorter men. It's the same with women's boobs they can get bigger boobs or boob reduction so weight and breast size is a non factor:D!!!

 

Most men don't want to date sticks/anorexic women as the media portrays. Men want to date women that have a little weight but yet healthy. So yes that is why society frowns upon women being soooo overly picky on men's height is simply because we are our height and that can't be changed. If the roles were reversed and men did this to women as much as women do it to men women would be just as upset or actually more upset and always complain about why men wouldn't just go out with a women at whatever height. Also on the height issue society also frowns upon the issues I think because so many women won't give an inch and refuse to even look at men at a certain height society would be more accepting if women opened up their minds to the possibilities instead of being so close minded about men's height.

[CaliGuy]

Yes there is.

 

A woman's NOSE.

 

Lots of chicks forgive guys for big schnozzes, but what a curse to be a big-nosed woman. There's your short-guy equivalent.

 

Nah that's not apples to apples either.

 

Noses can be easily and relatively inexpensively fixed.

Breast size can be easily and relatively inexpensively fixed.

 

Height? There is NOTHING that can be done about that aside from the expensive and unorthodox method of bone lengthening -- of which no sane doctor would authorize for a health, normal adult male. I know this is used for people who suffer from dwarfism, but I have never heard it being used on males above 5'.

 

Bottom line: It is what it is for men and their height. You either learn to embrace it or you let it control you. The choice is yours.

[AD1980]

Nah th

 

Bottom line: It is what it is for men and their height. You either learn to embrace it or you let it control you. The choice is yours.

 

That cliche fluff is all swell and that you have to love yourself first blah blah blah...

 

But if youre being constantly rejected you can still love yourself and accept your shortcomings but you cant knock somebody for being pissed over it and wonder at times, why some women can reject an otherwise good guy over maybe 2 inches and think to yourself women are insane..

[OpenGL]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, as long as you're about 5'6 and above it isn't game breaking in real life. If you're a good looking dude and built good you will won't really have trouble getting women. Yes it will be no where near as easy if you were 6'2, but you can still get women.

 

I think people perception gets skews from online dating sites. If you do online dating at 5'6, yeah you're done, it's a waste of time. Online dating is for men who have good "looks good on paper" stats. In real life women aren't anywhere near as picky. Honestly at 5'7 myself most women don't even know how to judge my height (and I'm a pretty built guy so that helps). I just look "big" to them.

 

Bottom line, get your ass out in the clubs and get off the online dating sites.

[PJKino]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, as long as you're about 5'6 and above it isn't game breaking in real life. If you're a good looking dude and built good you will won't really have trouble getting women. Yes it will be no where near as easy if you were 6'2, but you can still get women.

 

I think people perception gets skews from online dating sites. If you do online dating at 5'6, yeah you're done, it's a waste of time. Online dating is for men who have good "looks good on paper" stats. In real life women aren't anywhere near as picky. Honestly at 5'7 myself most women don't even know how to judge my height (and I'm a pretty built guy so that helps). I just look "big" to them.

 

Bottom line, get your ass out in the clubs and get off the online dating sites.

 

I agree with that as long as youre not extremely short it shouldnt hurt you..5'9 is average so all these guys who are 5'7 or 5'8 need to stop crying becasue youre not THAT short that you stand out n a crowd, youre very slightly below average..

 

AS you said most women dont really no exact heights anyway,obviously the women wh only date really tall guys would notcie but the average women that says they dont date guys under 5'9 or 5'8 would they really say no if the guy was an inch or two under that? And if he was and they found him attractive would they really care or notice?

 

Some women just throw numbers out there that sound socially acceptable to them

[OpenGL]

Some women just throw numbers out there that sound socially acceptable to them

 

This is the KEY point. They are just throwing out numbers that sound good, and thats why online dating does not work for men who don't have looks good on paper stats.

 

In real life, if you are 5'7 and in their head they have the "i wont date anybody under 5'9", they won't be able to tell (or even care) that you are 2 inches under their "limit" if they find you attractive. The only exception to this is if they are 5'9 themselves and you look shorter than them.

[OpenGL]

Just want to add that online dating does not really work good if you are not white. I'm not just trying to stroke the flame but there are lots of stats to back this up. The vast majority of women online (regardless of their ethnicity) are looking for white men. The lease desirable ethnicity is black. I am black myself so obviously I stay far away from online dating.

[PJKino]

This is the KEY point. They are just throwing out numbers that sound good, and thats why online dating does not work for men who don't have looks good on paper stats.

 

In real life, if you are 5'7 and in their head they have the "i wont date anybody under 5'9", they won't be able to tell (or even care) that you are 2 inches under their "limit" if they find you attractive. The only exception to this is if they are 5'9 themselves and you look shorter than them.

 

Though theyre are some girls who must be shorter then you even with 5 inch heels so they might not but whod want to be with a lunatic like that anyway?

[OpenGL]

Though theyre are some girls who must be shorter then you even with 5 inch heels so they might not but whod want to be with a lunatic like that anyway?

 

The 5 inches heels things that women on this forum throw around is BS. 90% of women do not wear 5 inch heels everywhere they go. At 5'7 I can easily say that I am taller than most women I meet, even in heels. Most women probably wear 2-3 inch heels at most. The average height for women is 5'4, with 2 inch heels they will still be 5'6 or under (2 inch heels does not directly translate to +2 inches in height, more like 1.5). Plus when guys where shoes they add 1/2 an inch on average.

[TheLoneSock]

It's my opinion that the closest apples to apples comparisson that can be made to a man's height, is a woman's weight.

 

Reason being, shorter men and larger women seem to be the most jaded, the most overlooked, or the most voiceful in thier questions of "why not me?" in the dating game. Both can be clear deal breakers. Of course there are women who are more accepting of a lack of height, and there are men who are more accepting of an excess of weight - both are the exception.

 

Women in general will almost always prefer a taller guy over a shorter one, and men in general will almost always prefer the girl that has a body like Shakira over someone who's hit McDonald's too many times. These are the most direct two comparissons I can think of.

 

The only difference is that women can change their weight. It's hard, yes, but it isn't permanent if they don't want it to be. Shorter men do not have that option outside of invasive surgery or extensive hormone therapy.

 

The problem I personally have with that is this: a woman who is not naturally in decent shape is essentially doomed to regain that weight sooner or later unless she works out for the rest of her life, which is not likely - meaning she finds Mr. Right, gets married, and 5 years later her man is no longer attracted to her. Same with men having their body altered to something they are not naturally. While the male options are permanent it is still the same thing, which is essentially fooling the other person into attraction, unless the other person knows early on and is genuinely accepting of it.

 

Personally I don't believe in plastic surgery or any kind of hormone therapy that alters the body from it's original state, unless it's purpose is to reconstruct what was there previously - like in victims of car accidents or other traumatic experiences. But that's just my opinion, I'm somewhat elitist as far as the genetics game goes, I think it damages the gene pool to try and be something you are not - but then again I'm pretty picky when it comes to good genes.

 

Ultimately though there is someone out there for everyone, and that doesn't just mean there is someone out there willing to be with you, it means there is someone out there that will be crazy attracted to you for you. That is often forgotten in the frustration of the dating game.

Edited December 12, 2009 by TheLoneSock
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[doushenka]

Umlaut -- I'm 4'11". 5'4" is perfect for me! :-)

[sonicranger]

Hmmm. I'm sorry I can't add anything positive to this conversatin other than my anecdotal evidence.

 

I'm 6'2" so I'm on the other side of this conversation.

 

This whole height thing has historical significance, it goes back hundreds, if not thousands of years. Nicolas Sarkozy stands on a box when he gives public speeches. Humphrey Bogart stood on a box in his movie scenes in Casablanca. Napoleon had huge boots made so he'd be taller and always rode on the biggest horse, so he'd be taller and appear in control. Thus the "Napoleon Complex"...if you didn't know.

 

The bottom line is, as others have said, NOTHING is going to change the fact that you are short-er. You have to find YOUR way of rising above it, moving beyond it and living your life. There ARE people out there that either don't care or are just as tall or shorte than you are.

 

Good luck.

[PJKino]

It's my opinion that the closest apples to apples comparisson that can be made to a man's height, is a woman's weight.

 

Reason being, shorter men and larger women seem to be the most jaded, the most overlooked, or the most voiceful in thier questions of "why not me?" in the dating game. Both can be clear deal breakers. Of course there are women who are more accepting of a lack of height, and there are men who are more accepting of an excess of weight - both are the exception.

 

Women in general will almost always prefer a taller guy over a shorter one, and men in general will almost always prefer the girl that has a body like Shakira over someone who's hit McDonald's too many times. These are the most direct two comparissons I can think of.

 

The only difference is that women can change their weight. It's hard, yes, but it isn't permanent if they don't want it to be. Shorter men do not have that option outside of invasive surgery or extensive hormone therapy.

 

The problem I personally have with that is this: a woman who is not naturally in decent shape is essentially doomed to regain that weight sooner or later unless she works out for the rest of her life, which is not likely - meaning she finds Mr. Right, gets married, and 5 years later her man is no longer attracted to her. Same with men having their body altered to something they are not naturally. It is essentially fooling the other person into attraction, unless the other person knows early on and is genuinely accepting of it.

 

Personally I don't believe in plastic surgery or any kind of hormone therapy that alters the body from it's original state, unless it's purpose is to reconstruct what was there previously - like in victims of car accidents or other traumatic experiences. But that's just my opinion, I'm somewhat elitist as far as the genetics game goes, I think it damages the gene pool to try and be something you are not - but then again I'm pretty picky when it comes to good genes.

 

Ultimately though there is someone out there for everyone, and that doesn't just mean there is someone out there willing to be with you, it means there is someone out there that will be crazy attracted to you for you. That is often forgotten in the frustration of the dating game.

 

As another poster said fat women should be compared to well fat men wheter tall or short,do you really beleive a fat tall guy is higher up on the food chain that a slightly short guy?

 

Besides how short and how fat are we tlaking here?

 

A guy 5'3 if u want to compare him to a fat women fine but is a man around 5'8 whos an inch below normal on par with a really fat women?

 

I think we need to specify what height really leaves Men at a big disadvantage in the dating world no matter what they look like..Id say around what 5'5,5'6?

 

As far as men prefernece plenty of us like some curves on a women not fat at all but not anoriexic women built like 8 year old boys either.

Edited December 12, 2009 by PJKino

[PJKino]

 

Ultimately though there is someone out there for everyone, and that doesn't just mean there is someone out there willing to be with you, it means there is someone out there that will be crazy attracted to you for you. That is often forgotten in the frustration of the dating game.

 

No offense but thats not soemthing id tell a short person to get them to think positive

 

"Hey buddy theyres a billions of women out there out of all of them i bet theyres actually one or two that really finds you attractive":laugh:

[TheLoneSock]

No offense but thats not soemthing id tell a short person to get them to think positive

 

"Hey buddy theyres a billions of women out there out of all of them i bet theyres actually one or two that really finds you attractive":laugh:

 

Lol, I was speaking figuratively. I'd hope they wouldn't be that lost to think I really only meant 1 or 2.

[TheLoneSock]

As another poster said fat women should be compared to well fat men wheter tall or short,do you really beleive a fat tall guy is higher up on the food chain that a slightly short guy?

 

Besides how short and how fat are we tlaking here?

 

A guy 5'3 if u want to compare him to a fat women fine but is a man around 5'8 whos an inch below normal on par with a really fat women?

 

I think we need to specify what height really leaves Men at a big disadvantage in the dating world no matter what they look like..Id say around what 5'5,5'6?

 

As far as men prefernece plenty of us like some curves on a women not fat at all but not anoriexic women built like 8 year old boys either.

 

Getting into numbers drama isn't relevent, and isn't something I'm going to do. Why? Because everyone has their OWN preference and their OWN opinion of what is too short or too overweight. So I have no business trying to state what is and what isn't.

[Hi.P.O'Crit]

IMO, the closest apples to apples comparison for a short man is a woman's age.

 

For both a short man and an older woman beyond a certain age, both have diminishing dating pool.

[TheLoneSock]

IMO, the closest apples to apples comparison for a short man is a woman's age.

 

For both a short man and an older woman beyond a certain age, both have diminishing dating pool.

 

This is a good point too. Because both are things they can't help or change. And men for the most part simply become more and more eligible as they get older, making more money, growing into their masculinity - to a certain point obviously, it does end eventually.

 

But while this example is probably a better one over all, I think height to weight comparison is more relevent to the dating game, because it's mostly younger people (20's, 30's) doing the dating anyway.

[PJKino]

Getting into numbers drama isn't relevent, and isn't something I'm going to do. Why? Because everyone has their OWN preference and their OWN opinion of what is too short or too overweight. So I have no business trying to state what is and what isn't.

 

But your comparing height to weight what im saying is thast kinda too vague because theyres measures of fat and shortness

 

Is a 5'8 dude in really good shape handsome face on par with a fat women?

 

Id guess he has a much easier time with women then the fat women has with Men,now if he was 5'4 it would be a different story no matter what his face or body looked like

 

See what im saying?

[TheLoneSock]

But your comparing height to weight what im saying is thast kinda too vague because theyres measures of fat and shortness

 

Is a 5'8 dude in really good shape handsome face on par with a fat women?

 

Id guess he has a much easier time with women then the fat women has with Men,now if he was 5'4 it would be a different story no matter what his face or body looked like

 

See what im saying?

 

I do see what you're trying to say. But it doesn't matter if it's vague. There is no clear line of what is and what isn't, because it will be different for anyone. It's pointless to attempt tossing around numbers.

 

If you have specific questions about your own eligibility, and that's what you're trying to figure out, start a thread and ask.

 

What you just did was take 3 factors of a man and compare it to 1 factor of a woman. Your question should have asked this: "Is a guy who is 5'8", in good shape and handsome on par with a woman who is fat, has a pretty face and an education?" Your version of the question it'self was vague.

Edited December 12, 2009 by TheLoneSock
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