How important is a womans naked body to men?

[jerseyboy]

The most important thing, according to this thread is confidence

 

The thing is that you cant fake confidence in the long run ... You have to feel it!

 

 

Honestly, Ive never really believed that myself.

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I think its something guys say because they think it impresses girls.

 

Not to say insecure women are mroe attractive. But rather that confidence doesnt make up for a whole lot.

 

In fact, I can think of countless conversations with guys laughing about some girl who really wasnt much attractiveness wise, but struts around like shes God's gift.

 

We pretty much universally find them really annoying lol

[Ody]

The most important thing, according to this thread is confidence

 

The thing is that you cant fake confidence in the long run ... You have to feel it!

 

Confidence is a plus for woman but I wouldn't say it's the most important thing. Certainly way more important than stretch marks but not as important as other more fundamential physical considerations for me. I do think confidence makes women significantly better in bed.

 

Yes I feel it is numero uno for men.

[jerseyboy]

What a few, and I mean very few, women can do is pull off some intoxicating combination of sensuality without just appearing slutty. And I dont mean slutty in abad way, just its not about sexual innuendo or sexually charged convos, which si what most women do.

 

They just have a way about them that makes all other women look like girls if that makes sense. Its generally speaking not beautiful women who manage it either, or at least not especially so.

 

But the ones who do its OMFG

[Lishy]

Honestly, Ive never really believed that myself.

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I think its something guys say because they think it impresses girls.

 

Not to say insecure women are mroe attractive. But rather that confidence doesnt make up for a whole lot.

 

In fact, I can think of countless conversations with guys laughing about some girl who really wasnt much attractiveness wise, but struts around like shes God's gift.

 

We pretty much universally find them really annoying lol

 

There is a difference between confidence and arrogance. Confidence is attractive in anyone but it has to be without the arrogance. Confidence in yourself is priceless and so hard to achieve. It has to come from the inside out and I admire anyone who is genually confident in themselves, no matter what they look like but to be honest if I know 2 truly confident women with no inhibitions then that is alot!

 

Not many women have that confidence

[Skump]

I am sooo worried about my stretch marks after having my son

 

Vitamin E oil + massage

[Lishy]

Vitamin E oil + massage

 

I had my son 13 years ago, I doubt that will help now lol

[CaliGuy]

I am reading lots of posts about womens hang ups with their bodies and would like to know what men really think

 

Every single girl I know how certain issues with their bodies including me

 

My friend is obsessed with her cellulite and my other friend is obsessed with her boobs, another her fat vagina and I am sooo worried about my stretch marks after having my son

 

Now I have to say that every guy I have slept with has never had a problem with my stretchmarks but yet they make me feel sick.

 

so guys, what do you think? would a girls imperfect body turn you off?

 

I think if you really love WHO the person is, WHAT they are shouldn't matter as much. I do think that we have control over our bodies though. If you really let yourself go then you have to expect that some physical attraction will be lost.

 

I work my tail off at the gym and would continue to do so even if I was married. It's partly because I want to look good but mostly because I want to be healthy.

 

Besides, I CARE what I look like naked. (damn good, I might say, haha!)

 

My point is, your body is under your control. You can choose to stay in shape or you can choose to let yourself go. The only free pass I can think of is child-bearing. In that case, I would never, ever harp on a woman if she gained weight.

 

For crying out loud, you guys created life together but she bore the brunt of it. Give her a break!

[jerseyboy]

There is a difference between confidence and arrogance. Confidence is attractive in anyone but it has to be without the arrogance. Confidence in yourself is priceless and so hard to achieve. It has to come from the inside out and I admire anyone who is genually confident in themselves, no matter what they look like but to be honest if I know 2 truly confident women with no inhibitions then that is alot!

 

Not many women have that confidence

 

I dont think Ive ever dated a person who didnt have an impression of me as arrogant when they met me. Hard to seperate the two.

 

 

Or maybe just for me.

 

I dont disagree about women. Most are insecure about something.

[Skump]

I had my son 13 years ago, I doubt that will help now lol

 

Actually, you might be surprised...

 

There are limits, of course, to what non-surgical treatments can do for scar tissue, but skin is a living organ. If well-treated, its condition can improve over time.

 

There are also some promising non-invasive treatments on the horizon:

 

A recent study of new modality for the treatment of stretch mark published in the Journal of Dermatological Treatment. The study entitled “Treatment of striae distensae with a TriPollar radiofrequency device: A pilot study" by Dr. Manuskiatti et al - See full article[1] was done on seventeen females with stretch marks that underwent six weekly treatments with the apollo™ system (Pollogen LTd.). Results showed that at one week after the final (sixth) treatment 38.2% and 11.8% of the patients were assessed to have 25-50% and 51-75% improvement in the appearance of their stretch marks, respectively. The long term effect of the treatment was confirmed during the 6 weeks follow up which showed that a higher percentage of the patients were rated to have improvement of their stretch marks, including 26.5% and 5.9% showing 51-75% and >75% improvement, respectively. None of the participants was rated as having no improvement in their clinical appearance of stretch marks. Patient satisfaction was also measured and 65% of patients reported that they were very satisfied with the treatment, 23% were satisfied and 12% were slightly satisfied.

[kahn2154]

How about the other way around, would women care if a man looked bad without his clothes on?

 

I went through a large weight loss and have tons of issues with my body, I have stretch marks but they are way down the list..

 

I think I look pretty normal with my clothes on, but off I have been told everything from I look deformed to at best I'm a 5 or 6/10 or average (and I don't know if those people were just being nice...) So if I took my clothes off and you were expecting a normal looking guy and were surprised to find someone with loose skin, and fat, would you run?

[You'reasian]

Its suprising how many people expect their partner to look awesome, when they don't do much maintenance themselves - but we're a visual society and we gotta have what we want. I am personally comfortable with a wide range of body types - big picture and personality matters the most.

[Lishy]

Actually, you might be surprised...

 

There are limits, of course, to what non-surgical treatments can do for scar tissue, but skin is a living organ. If well-treated, its condition can improve over time.

 

There are also some promising non-invasive treatments on the horizon:

 

Thank you Skump x

[rateyes]

boob size? dont care

butt size? dont care

cellulose? only nip pick i have about girls.

 

but i tend to talk to thinner girls. The only turnoff a girl can possess (to me) is cellulose. Otherwise i wouldn't have approached them to talk to them if i didn't find their body attractive!

 

and yes i weight train,run, 7% body fat, so if i keep in shape, i like my partner to too. And the thing is i still think i could be better, fix my imperfections. get a little bigger on my arms, chest, lose one more % of body fat. but the thing is, i try to fight it, cuz i know its an endless cycle, it will never end, and if im not happy now, i never will be and with my % body fat already to low its dangerous for me to lose anymore(even tho i still think i should to get mroe cut).

Edited November 30, 2009 by rateyes

[justforfun]

Thank you Skump x

 

They aren't just on the horizon. They are being used. Check out laser treatments. Any plastic surgery website will tell you about scar treatments. Be warned, a lot of them don't work.

[BobSacamento]

For the most part I agree with Rateyes. I do not discriminate based on parts but mostly on the whole of a woman's body. Boob size, butt size, marks or scars, cellulite, etc doesn't really bother me.

 

However, I tend to go for athletic or slimmer women. People who use food to make them feel better or as a reward just turn me off. Maybe it's false, but I just assume fat people are gluttons.

[justforfun]

boob size? dont care

butt size? dont care

cellulose? only nip pick i have about girls.

 

but i tend to talk to thinner girls. The only turnoff a girl can possess (to me) is cellulose. Otherwise i wouldn't have approached them to talk to them if i didn't find their body attractive!

 

and yes i weight train,run, 7% body fat, so if i keep in shape, i like my partner to too. And the thing is i still think i could be better, fix my imperfections. get a little bigger on my arms, chest, lose one more % of body fat. but the thing is, i try to fight it, cuz i know its an endless cycle, it will never end, and if im not happy now, i never will be and with my % body fat already to low its dangerous for me to lose anymore(even tho i still think i should to get mroe cut).

 

So, with all that work you do then you would know there are certain things you can't change and cellulite is one of them.

 

Note: I am cellulite free...inherited trait from my Mother and Grandmother. Nothing to do with how I workout.

[Midnight Rider]

I will admit this though. Its shallow I know, but I cant help it.

 

I cant date a woman who has an (in my eyes) ugly vagina. I think because to me so much of my arousal is tied to it.

 

I have issues:(

 

Jerseyboy, I think I suffer from the same issues. At the least, the vagina should be trimmed and not have hair length requiring a barber.

[justforfun]

Jerseyboy, I think I suffer from the same issues. At the least, the vagina should be trimmed and not have hair length requiring a barber.

 

Agreed! Completely shaved undercarriage (smooth as a baby's bottom), well trimmed landing strip.

[Vertex]

As long as a girl knows how to take care of herself and is reasonably in shape, I'm not super picky. I'm actually more picky about the hair on their head... long, straight hair gets me going

[jerseyboy]

boob size? dont care

butt size? dont care

cellulose? only nip pick i have about girls.

 

but i tend to talk to thinner girls. The only turnoff a girl can possess (to me) is cellulose. Otherwise i wouldn't have approached them to talk to them if i didn't find their body attractive!

 

and yes i weight train,run, 7% body fat, so if i keep in shape, i like my partner to too. And the thing is i still think i could be better, fix my imperfections. get a little bigger on my arms, chest, lose one more % of body fat. but the thing is, i try to fight it, cuz i know its an endless cycle, it will never end, and if im not happy now, i never will be and with my % body fat already to low its dangerous for me to lose anymore(even tho i still think i should to get mroe cut).

 

 

It isnt healthy to stay that low. Under ten exercise is pointless and your body cant grow anyway. Thats only a smidge shy of show weight.

 

I keep mine around ten, and even higher if Im bulking

[Jaytb]

boob size? dont care

butt size? dont care

cellulose? only nip pick i have about girls.

 

but i tend to talk to thinner girls. The only turnoff a girl can possess (to me) is cellulose. Otherwise i wouldn't have approached them to talk to them if i didn't find their body attractive!

 

and yes i weight train,run, 7% body fat, so if i keep in shape, i like my partner to too. And the thing is i still think i could be better, fix my imperfections. get a little bigger on my arms, chest, lose one more % of body fat. but the thing is, i try to fight it, cuz i know its an endless cycle, it will never end, and if im not happy now, i never will be and with my % body fat already to low its dangerous for me to lose anymore(even tho i still think i should to get mroe cut).

 

Cellulose? What are you dating, an orange?

[Jersey Shortie]

Most women over the age of 12 have celluite. And cellulite has nothing to do with a woman's weight. It's genetics and the fact that women are infact women and naturally are more fatty because we the ones that have to carry your body destroying offspring only so that you can oggle girls young enough to be your daughters and fill your days staring like zombies at pornography. But don't worry. I don't much expect men to care or all the sudden gain understanding and respect for women and their bodies and what they naturally are.

 

Your points are valid but only for "some" individuals. So what does it matter that a percentage of the population is strongly affected by external pressures? Why not avoid individuals like this? Why must society have solely one perspective?

 

It's a majority rules concept Trial.

 

There's nothing wrong with wanting to be loved for all of you. But focusing solely on the negative for the entire other gender, isn't rational and is extremely detrimental to your ability to find a partner. Why not just trust in your own instincts, instead of believing that the majority of men are worthless cretins who are solely superficial? While sure, men are visual, they're not all cretins, who prioritize the superficial at the cost of the rest.

 

I don't think men are worthless cretins. It's just the opposite. It's clear how many men think women are worthless because of external factors. How many men put women down for not having the perfect body or not being young anymore, prattling on about how desering they are as men and how undeserving they find women, especially after a certain age, forget it. Men want to take you out back and shoot you and then do the next new crop of young women. So many man-boys out there that want to play around and then want to look down on women in their own peer group for getting older. Or have expectations about women's bodies that are unreal. I know I do focus on the negative but at least I am being honest about how men are so that I hopefully will be less hurt by the way most guys behave today then I already am. I was really navie when I was younger and that hurt more. I'm just trying to honest now so that I am prepared for the very realistic and crappy things most men seem to do or think about women.

[MeganDoll]

Honestly, Ive never really believed that myself.

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I think its something guys say because they think it impresses girls.

 

Not to say insecure women are mroe attractive. But rather that confidence doesnt make up for a whole lot.

 

In fact, I can think of countless conversations with guys laughing about some girl who really wasnt much attractiveness wise, but struts around like shes God's gift.

 

We pretty much universally find them really annoying lol

 

Exactly confidence is attractive on good looking people when girls say we want confident guys we mean on guys who have reason to be confident

 

An ugly guy being overconfident is just gonna come off silly and not gonna make me attracted to him

[Jaytb]

Most women over the age of 12 have celluite. And cellulite has nothing to do with a woman's weight. It's genetics and the fact that women are infact women and naturally are more fatty because we the ones that have to carry your body destroying offspring only so that you can oggle girls young enough to be your daughters and fill your days staring like zombies at pornography. But don't worry. I don't much expect men to care or all the sudden gain understanding and respect for women and their bodies and what they naturally are.

 

you've really gone off the deep end here.

 

 

I don't think men are worthless cretins. It's just the opposite. It's clear how many men think women are worthless because of external factors. How many men put women down for not having the perfect body or not being young anymore, prattling on about how desering they are as men and how undeserving they find women, especially after a certain age, forget it. Men want to take you out back and shoot you and then do the next new crop of young women. So many man-boys out there that want to play around and then want to look down on women in their own peer group for getting older. Or have expectations about women's bodies that are unreal. I know I do focus on the negative but at least I am being honest about how men are so that I hopefully will be less hurt by the way most guys behave today then I already am. I was really navie when I was younger and that hurt more. I'm just trying to honest now so that I am prepared for the very realistic and crappy things most men seem to do or think about women.

and you continue to go off the deep end here.

 

navie

Naive.

[shadowplay]

I think as women go I'm pretty confident about my body. I actually feel better about the way it looks naked rather than clothed. I have a lot more gripes about my face. I'd much rather it were the reverse, because faces are probably more important and no one can really appreciate how nice your body looks naked until they have sex with you.