muse08 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 ok woggle i'm getting the impression that you're getting paid to say this stuff. you have perfect timing for debate. "emasculating" yourself to please your WIFE. wow, the word emasculating shouldn't even be a choice but you chose it so i'm sure your posts will now skyrocket! you're just trying to keep this thread "hot" and it definitely is. KUDOS for WOGGLE! Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Got it. Men doing what they want, is the important stuff. Answered the question myself. Yes it is. If a man keeps his manhood and his balls he will fare much better in life. Even if a woman dumps him he always has a life to fall back on. Too many divorced men end up so alone and depressed because chances are he elminated every semblence of an independent life and dropped all his friends to please her majesty and she still walked on him. If a man keeps his independent identity and his friends he will be more respected by his woman and will bounce back more quickly if she does walk. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 ok woggle i'm getting the impression that you're getting paid to say this stuff. you have perfect timing for debate. "emasculating" yourself to please your WIFE. wow, the word emasculating shouldn't even be a choice but you chose it so i'm sure your posts will now skyrocket! you're just trying to keep this thread "hot" and it definitely is. KUDOS for WOGGLE! I am not getting paid but in my 30 years I have learned some things. I am a very observant person. Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 So where is your wife while you ramble on? Better check your bedroom. She may be out cheating on you. She is a woman afterall and they all cheat according to you. Link to post Share on other sites
calizaggy Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Important stuff? If you are a man you should have hobbies, interests, a business or career, friends, and family. Often times a woman will desperately compete with the above for all of your attention. When you start dropping the above activities she loses respect and gains control over you. She senses this and no longer views you as a man she desires. Link to post Share on other sites
muse08 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 I am not getting paid but in my 30 years I have learned some things. I am a very observant person. So am I woggle...very observant. So you're saying what? Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 So where is your wife while you ramble on? Better check your bedroom. She may be out cheating on you. She is a woman afterall and they all cheat according to you. She is in the bedroom. I am an insomniac and when I can't sleep I go on the computer. My mind tends tgo go 24/7 so I don't get much rest. Link to post Share on other sites
Boundary Problem Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Yes it is. If a man keeps his manhood and his balls he will fare much better in life. Even if a woman dumps him he always has a life to fall back on. Too many divorced men end up so alone and depressed because chances are he elminated every semblence of an independent life and dropped all his friends to please her majesty and she still walked on him. If a man keeps his independent identity and his friends he will be more respected by his woman and will bounce back more quickly if she does walk. Mirror same can be said for women. A woman who doesn't have the freedom to walk out is not in a position to stand up for herself. But I don't want to t/j. So the essence of a successful relationship is two independent partners. I'm going back over to the suffocation thread now. Link to post Share on other sites
muse08 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 She is in the bedroom. I am an insomniac and when I can't sleep I go on the computer. My mind tends tgo go 24/7 so I don't get much rest. exercise and warm tea can help with the sleep issue. get yourself tired during the day so that you can sleep at night. you need your rest woggle... Link to post Share on other sites
calizaggy Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 No, women are much different and do not want to be independent. The only independence they want is their own spending money. When you go to the grocery store, what do women buy in the magazine section? How to be good in bed, (cosmo), romance novels, bridal magazines, hair and make up magazines. All designed to do one thing. Get and keep a man. Now what magazines do men buy? Cars, hunting, sports, boats,guns, porn,etc. Independent interests. Link to post Share on other sites
Boundary Problem Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 No, women are much different and do not want to be independent. The only independence they want is their own spending money. When you go to the grocery store, what do women buy in the magazine section? How to be good in bed, (cosmo), romance novels, bridal magazines, hair and make up magazines. All designed to do one thing. Get and keep a man. Now what magazines do men buy? Cars, hunting, sports, boats,guns, porn,etc. Independent interests. You've obviously never picked up a women's magazine. The last one I picked up seriously had an article titled something to the effect of "His Penis - What to Look for, what is normal, what isn't normal" etc. And then in GRAPHIC detail it covered all those issue. I nearly dropped the magazine on the floor at the grocery store. You are right though. Now that I'm divorced. All I can think about is having a man. not Link to post Share on other sites
Author ComeUndone Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 On the surface I may not agree with threatening to cheat but it worked and I am all about results. If it gets good results I advise men to do it. If women don't like it they should be more appreciative of men who treat them well. And you are assuming she is being treated well. Why are you assuming that? All we are saying is that if a woman has lost interest in sex or doesn't want her man to touch her, there is something more going on in their relationship. Sex is the first thing to falter when a relationship develops issues. You act as if a woman is just being a bitch by denying her man so the poor guy is forced to threaten cheating in order to get her to put out. Yes sure, some women just lose interest over time, their libido drops or whatever, but you cannot just assume that this is her issue alone. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 And you are assuming she is being treated well. Why are you assuming that? All we are saying is that if a woman has lost interest in sex or doesn't want her man to touch her, there is something more going on in their relationship. Sex is the first thing to falter when a relationship develops issues. You act as if a woman is just being a bitch by denying her man so the poor guy is forced to threaten cheating in order to get her to put out. Yes sure, some women just lose interest over time, their libido drops or whatever, but you cannot just assume that this is her issue alone. I have known him for a few years and he is a good guy. He did not want to cheat but he was desperate after trying everything else and did what he though was right at the time. It was 10 years ago and their marriage has been great since since in her words it made her realize what she about to lose. I amm all about producing good results and that is what this did. Link to post Share on other sites
Author ComeUndone Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 Important stuff? If you are a man you should have hobbies, interests, a business or career, friends, and family. Often times a woman will desperately compete with the above for all of your attention. When you start dropping the above activities she loses respect and gains control over you. She senses this and no longer views you as a man she desires. Or maybe YOU lose yourself in the relationship rather than her gaining control over you. If he so chooses to give up friends and hobbies and all aspects of a life outside of his marital relationship then that is HIS unhealthy doing, but it doesn't become HER fault that he chose to do so. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Or maybe YOU lose yourself in the relationship rather than her gaining control over you. If he so chooses to give up friends and hobbies and all aspects of a life outside of his marital relationship then that is HIS unhealthy doing, but it doesn't become HER fault that he chose to do so. If a man does keep his friends and hobbies he is often accused of not putting her first or not valuing the marriage or whatever. Link to post Share on other sites
Author ComeUndone Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 No, women are much different and do not want to be independent. The only independence they want is their own spending money. Some maybe, but a rude generalization for the majority. When you go to the grocery store, what do women buy in the magazine section? How to be good in bed, (cosmo), romance novels, bridal magazines, hair and make up magazines. All designed to do one thing. Get and keep a man. ....All things the include relationships on some level. You say "keep" a man, but maybe you ought to be a little flattered here... and least she cares enough to read up on how to keep her man (or potential man) interested rather than not giving a crap. Now what magazines do men buy? Cars, hunting, sports, boats,guns, porn,etc. Independent interests. ....All things that exclude relationships. Interesting. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Men's magazines do somewhat talk about relationships but I find that despite all the pontification and analyzing women do about relationships most of them know very little about hot to successfully have one. Men are more about doing rather than obsessing over every little detail. Link to post Share on other sites
Author ComeUndone Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 If a man does keep his friends and hobbies he is often accused of not putting her first or not valuing the marriage or whatever. Probably because he doesn't know how to (or doesn't care to) manage his time. Often men just ditch her routinely to take off with the guys or work on his hot-rod without realizing (or again.... caring) how much time he is investing in those things and how little time is giving to the relationship. Let me guess.... if he IS in fact acting as I said above then she is probably "nagging" him, and that makes HER at fault, not him? Link to post Share on other sites
Author ComeUndone Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 Men's magazines do somewhat talk about relationships but I find that despite all the pontification and analyzing women do about relationships most of them know very little about hot to successfully have one. Men are more about doing rather than obsessing over every little detail. Men versus women. We are emotional creatures... we tend to obsess about things. Men are more action oriented. More insight about the female gender. Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Important stuff? If you are a man you should have hobbies, interests, a business or career, friends, and family. Often times a woman will desperately compete with the above for all of your attention. When you start dropping the above activities she loses respect and gains control over you. She senses this and no longer views you as a man she desires. If you are a woman you should have these things as well or you start losing respect for yourself. Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Men versus women. We are emotional creatures... we tend to obsess about things. Men are more action oriented. More insight about the female gender. Men are emotional creatures as well. If you don't believe it read around LS at the men's posts. I swear nowadays I am finding men to be more emotional than most of the women I know. What is going on? Link to post Share on other sites
sally4sara Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Women get bored and loose respect the moment a man gives us their heart and/or gives up their hobbies? We only do that to the stupid hateful ones. I mean, they put up such a fuss at first and act like seven year olds with an all boys clubhouse; what else would we do once they quit squalling? Link to post Share on other sites
Author ComeUndone Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 Men are emotional creatures as well. If you don't believe it read around LS at the men's posts. I swear nowadays I am finding men to be more emotional than most of the women I know. What is going on? Okay I'll give you that, I see it here on LS as well. But..... are these men the same IRL? Here we are on a forum, anonymous at that, and we can let loose without worry about our lives being impacted. So I'm curious if the men who show all these emotions on LS don't somehow keep them in check IRL. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Both men and women have emotions but women's emotions change by the hour and if he doesn't somehow manage to read her mind the entire time she begins to resent him. Link to post Share on other sites
muse08 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Both men and women have emotions but women's emotions change by the hour and if he doesn't somehow manage to read her mind the entire time she begins to resent him. Looks like you managed to get some sleep and you're rested and ready for the 2nd round I see, lol... Women's emotions ADJUST, not just change all willy nilly. Depending on the surroundings and situation at hand, yes emotions will change. Same with you guys. You just hide your emotions and pretend as if all is well. THIS IS WHY SO MANY MEN ARE SOOO PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE. All that does is make you appear as if you've lost your mind. While we've dealt with our emotions, you're still harboring anger or resentment or confusion b/c you fail to express yourself... Now what? Link to post Share on other sites
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