meerkat stew Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I think guys need to stop equating women who ask them what they do as "gold digger". I actually don't have a problem being asked what I do early on, and if they won't date an ant farmer, to hell with em. Link to post Share on other sites
donnamaybe Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Fair enough, here's a meerkat decoder ring: Imagine a bellcurve. Cut the left and right standard deviations off of either side of the curve. What remains looks like a "bullet curve" and represents about 70% of what's "out there." When I make a statement about fondue, macrame, women, Serbian macroeconomic policy or wing nuts that doesn't begin with "all," "some," "no," etc., Just assume I'm talking about that "bullet" curve. BTW that's a pretty good way to decode anyone's post on the internetz who is too lazy (or in my case too high on painkillers) to type out qualifiers. Much more accurate and less anxiety inducing than assuming every nut on the net is adding an invisible "all" before their admittedly massive generalizations. Peace LMAO! Okay, that was funny! But there are other posters on here for whom one cannot "assume" a "bullet curve" exists, like Woggle for example. Since I don't know each LS member's individual peculiarities, if someone says "women" or "men" instead of "some..." I just assume they mean all. Peace back atcha! Link to post Share on other sites
donnamaybe Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Most of anything I've posted as "advice" in this thread is really ranting, but to the extent it could be taken as advice, it is advice not for the men, but for you. I don't need that advice because I'm not one of those women in your "bullet curve." But for these guys with little to no experience with ANY women, some of your posts might make 'em think we're all a bunch of money hungry airheads who do nothing but our nails - oh, and the weekly shopping spree - at YOUR expense, of course. Link to post Share on other sites
InspiredbyYou Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Fair enough, here's a meerkat decoder ring: Imagine a bellcurve. Cut the left and right standard deviations off of either side of the curve. What remains looks like a "bullet curve" and represents about 70% of what's "out there." When I make a statement about fondue, macrame, women, Serbian macroeconomic policy or wing nuts that doesn't begin with "all," "some," "no," etc., Just assume I'm talking about that "bullet" curve. BTW that's a pretty good way to decode anyone's post on the internetz who is too lazy (or in my case too high on painkillers) to type out qualifiers. Much more accurate and less anxiety inducing than assuming every nut on the net is adding an invisible "all" before their admittedly massive generalizations. Peace Ok they should make this part of the forum banner or something, or every time we sign in to the website a window should pop up with that message on it. Not only is it spot on, but it would also cut down a lot of useless never ending threads that pretty much argue the exact same stupid things day in day out. Well that, and the fact that it was just hilarious! But the again I've become biased to stewie's posts. Pass the Nyquil. Link to post Share on other sites
meerkat stew Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 "I sit and listen to my female friends and female relatives literally RAGE about women more vehemently than I ever hear men doing (we generally don't sit around and talk about women as a gender, there are just more interesting topics), making HUGE generalizations. Women are ironically enough the most extreme misogynists in my social network." Just had an epiphany, and want some female feedback on the above. Ladies, why do women bash other women so mercilessly? My aunt, and many other of my female kin, make completely outrageous assumptions and generalizations about women as a matter of course CONSTANTLY. Sometimes, brunch with my female friends turns into two hours of woman hatin, yet I never open my mouth. What's up with that? In fact, I just realized that almost all the bad generalizations about women I've learned in life COME FROM WOMEN. It wasn't a man who told me what a gold-digger was and that most women were into money, it was my Granny! I was 13 and the retarded level of my knowledge of women then included only the realization that "white stuff came out of my peepee when I thought about them too much! Gold-digger, Granny, what the hell is that? and why are you warning me about a miner?" "High maintenance" also came from a woman, as did "low self-esteem," "she has issues," "mattress back," "F-me pumps," "All women are crazy," "Sl*t," "drama queen," "headcase," "Watch what a woman does, not what she says," I swear these all came from women, mostly by way of huge general statements. What up with that ladies? To preempt, it wasn't just a few women who taught me these things, but a whole bunch, so it wasn't a case of some bad overprotective woman ruining me forever. These were otherwise very cool chicks whom I loved, and still love many of them today. Link to post Share on other sites
TheBigQuestion Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I think "Watch what a woman does, not what she says" is a good thing to keep in mind, and not necessarily a generalization or something negative. Link to post Share on other sites
paddington bear Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Most of anything I've posted as "advice" in this thread is really ranting, but to the extent it could be taken as advice, it is advice not for the men, but for you. lol Link to post Share on other sites
InspiredbyYou Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I think it is because women get more emotionally invested in people in general. Men can befriend the biggest douchabag known to man kind, go out for beers with him shoot the hay as if nothing, and go back to his life unscathed. Women invest a lot more in platonic relationships as a whole, we simply don't know how to do "casual beer" with someone we can't respect. Link to post Share on other sites
meerkat stew Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Pass the Nyquil. Will trade ya a percoset and two soma for some codeine robo. I swear this broken ass thing is not so bad, sucks for work, but then all the bad gold-diggin women are just gonna sneak in my room at night and clean out my wallet anyhow, so why bother with accumulating money? Hell shave my head, get me a red robe and call me Santa Krisna. Hare Hare, Hare Hare, HOHOHOHO Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I think it is because women get more emotionally invested in people in general. Men can befriend the biggest douchabag known to man kind, go out for beers with him shoot the hay as if nothing, and go back to his life unscathed. Women invest a lot more in platonic relationships as a whole, we simply don't know how to do "casual beer" with someone we can't respect. Men will hang out with these people but never truly befriend them. I used to hang out with the scummiest of people but I would have never let most of them in my house. Link to post Share on other sites
MeganDoll Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) Men need to be more honest and if they dont want a deep realtionship then admit it instead of playing games Men need to be hotter, these average Joes walking around:short out of shape no style seem to be 95% of Men,its frustrating I see maybe a few percntage of Men who are acutally Hot, Tall In amazing shape sucessfule etc Theyres such slim picking for women i can see why most of us say there are no good men I dont want to settle for an average joe Edited December 16, 2009 by MeganDoll Link to post Share on other sites
betamanlet Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Men need to be more honest and if they dont want a deep realtionship then admit it instead of playing games Men need to be hotter, these average Joes walking around:short out of shape no style seem to be 95% of Men,its frustrating I see maybe a few percntage of Men who are acutally Hot, Tall In amazing shape sucessfule ttc Theyres such slim picking for women i can see why most of us say there are no good men I dont want to settle for an average joe Please tell me you are a troll, but from my experiences, you aren't. My only physical requirement for a woman is to not be obese. That means she can be thin, average, overweight, just not obese. That's my ONLY physical requirement.. And the hot guys you want are players and don't want relationships, so you have to figure out what you actually want, in case you're not a troll Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I bet she is an average jane herself. To me people should be able to live up to the standards they set for others. Link to post Share on other sites
betamanlet Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Is it possible to have a job and make less than 5 figures? Yeah, when I was 15, I worked fast food and made about 8k per year. 4 figures. Link to post Share on other sites
boogieboy Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Men need to be more honest and if they dont want a deep realtionship then admit it instead of playing games Men need to be hotter, these average Joes walking around:short out of shape no style seem to be 95% of Men,its frustrating I see maybe a few percntage of Men who are acutally Hot, Tall In amazing shape sucessfule etc Theyres such slim picking for women i can see why most of us say there are no good men I dont want to settle for an average joe And this is exactly why the thread started. Everyone thinks they are too good for everyone. No youre not! Link to post Share on other sites
MeganDoll Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Please tell me you are a troll, but from my experiences, you aren't. My only physical requirement for a woman is to not be obese. That means she can be thin, average, overweight, just not obese. That's my ONLY physical requirement.. And the hot guys you want are players and don't want relationships, so you have to figure out what you actually want, in case you're not a troll How are all good looking guys players? Thats such agenerlazation by bitter ugly guys who wish they could make women squirm just by looking at them like hot guys have the ability to do IM sure theyres average guys who cheat and are "players" u cant judge by looks Link to post Share on other sites
betamanlet Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I think guys need to stop equating women who ask them what they do as "gold digger". Come on...we work so much, what else can someone ask about you? Believe me, I have hobbies, interests, and feelings, but in reality with a new person...my work is a safe thing to ask. PLUS...not every woman who asks is looking for a sugar daddy. Perhaps they're more looking for Mr Stability. We men do it too (and if you don't, you should). Lord knows I don't want to get involved with a woman who can't financially take care of herself. Women have a right to expect the same. Maybe it's not the hope of a meal ticket so she could crank out some kids and then sit at home...maybe she just doesn't want to end up married to a guy sitting on the couch playing Xbox while she's out working and paying the bills. The insecurity is insane here and on other boards. That's valid, it at times can be just conversation. However, in this day and age, women make up 57% of undergraduate students, they are equalling and exceeding men in remuneration (in big US cities, young women earn more than young men), women still want to date/marry up. Link to post Share on other sites
MeganDoll Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 And this is exactly why the thread started. Everyone thinks they are too good for everyone. No youre not! Ive dated 9's and 10's all my life i must be somehere near that level then I deserve them and they deserve me,people date peopel who are on theyre level of attratcivenes why would i come down and date a ugly or average guy just to maeke you feel better about yourselves? Link to post Share on other sites
betamanlet Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I don't care if you ask me what I do. But asking me what I am paid on the first date is not only uncalled for, it's rude and it's callous. Did that really happen? I have NEVER experienced that. I get asked it an indirect way. What I do, when I say lawyer, they ask where, then for how long, then they can guess my income, as there generally are formulas in major cities about what year attorney makes what. Link to post Share on other sites
betamanlet Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Right? IDK, I ask women all the time. Although I don't ask what they do or make, I ask "So what do you do with yourself?" It's more innocent I think and I am totally not materialistic. All I need is a fishing pole, my xbox, Call of Duty, a pck of smokes, and I am good. Don't need a BMW or a mansion. But these girls specifically asked how much I make a year. Like, who the **** are you? Liza Minelli? GTFO. Oh Jersey. Possibly... I know women who won't ask what a guy makes, but date online and will only select guys who are doctors or lawyers. Link to post Share on other sites
meerkat stew Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Men need to be more honest and if they dont want a deep realtionship then admit it instead of playing games Men need to be hotter, these average Joes walking around:short out of shape no style seem to be 95% of Men,its frustrating I see maybe a few percntage of Men who are acutally Hot, Tall In amazing shape sucessfule etc Theyres such slim picking for women i can see why most of us say there are no good men I dont want to settle for an average joe BRAVO! Finally, own it and love it! I would wear lifts in my shoes for a woman like you! When we fight, you will tell me "your dick is too small," and I will say, "well your ass sags," and then we will laugh and have ze cosmic makeup sex. Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Buddy, calm your flagpole. She didn't say women needed to be honest Link to post Share on other sites
meerkat stew Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Haha, it's just refreshing to hear a woman challenge men to "be hotter," like a breath of fresh air actually. Thanks for assuming "flagpole" and not "beanpole" btw. My coolest female boss told me, when I was griping about woman trouble once back in the 80s, "It's all about looks with women and men both, don't ever let anyone tell you different," causing me to go out get in great shape. I never got the woman I was chasing, but the better shape paid off well such that I didn't care. Link to post Share on other sites
torranceshipman Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Please tell me you are a troll, but from my experiences, you aren't. My only physical requirement for a woman is to not be obese. That means she can be thin, average, overweight, just not obese. That's my ONLY physical requirement.. And the hot guys you want are players and don't want relationships, so you have to figure out what you actually want, in case you're not a troll Lol, that is funny. MeganDoll didn't sound like a troll in her last post - what's wrong in wanting someone hot and in shape? If she is hot and in shape then she has a fair point. And she's right that she shouldn't settle....none of us should. Oh yea...and her post about describes my boyfriend and he isn't a player...he's great. Link to post Share on other sites
C-i-C-u Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 lets just clarify that you're talking about americans solely here lol, is the rest of the world suppose to have it better for relationships? don't think so. I got the bitchy attitude for approaching girls in czech rep, ukraine, as well as here in the Chicago area. Link to post Share on other sites
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