Leatitia Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Hello, I met him at a Concert. He is the Drumer of the Band. And I know he is the one. I live in Belgium and He in L.A. USA. In 48 day's we will see each other again I try to find a way to stay with Him. I miss him so much that I cry every night. But I know that Love is alway's stronger. For him it is somthing like a sign dat we have the Same names. And maybe it is... I never feel't it before, i mean this is different, stronger. With us it was Love of the first face. Phone call's, well I only have a a mobile phone so we e-mail and chat. Is there a way that I can stay with him? It is posible that I can go with him back to USA? do you have any tips? If you have any question, just ask . Thank you. Until next time, Much Loe and Hope, Leatitia Link to post Share on other sites
Rollercoasterr Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 No, you cannot just go back with him to the USA. It's not that easy. You either have to get a tourist visa(which are hard to get depending on the area you come from), get a marriage visa(K-1, CR-1, K-3), get a work visa(almost impossible to get in the economy), or get a student visa(very expensive). Any route you go you have to get a visa and you and he will still be separated for up to a year depending on the type of visa you get. With a tourist visa you MUST go back when your time is done or your risk a lifetime ban from the US. Be smart. If you really think he's the one then go about this the right way. Link to post Share on other sites
AnnPod Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Hahahahah NOOOOO way, tourist visa is very very easy for EU citizens, in fact all you need is a valid passport. You fill out a card they give you in the plane, they stamp it and that's it, you can stay for 3 months. You are not allowed to work with this and stuff though, but I know a lot of people who do. So yes, you can totally go back with him for some time Just not stay that long... Link to post Share on other sites
Rollercoasterr Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 (edited) Hahahahah NOOOOO way, tourist visa is very very easy for EU citizens, in fact all you need is a valid passport. You fill out a card they give you in the plane, they stamp it and that's it, you can stay for 3 months. You are not allowed to work with this and stuff though, but I know a lot of people who do. So yes, you can totally go back with him for some time Just not stay that long... Thanks for clarifying. I'm not familiar with the tourist visa requirements for all countries, but in certain places like the Philippines it is very difficult, if not impossible to obtain one because of immigration fraud. However, you need way more than "just a passport". That will not give you a tourist visa. If she wants to stay in the US with a tourist visa she'll need a B2. Requirements for this visa can be found here, which is specific for Belgium. http://belgium.usembassy.gov/business_tourist.html Currently, Belgium falls under the VWP, the Visa Waiver Program. In order to visit the US without a visa she will need to provide the following: *The purpose of their trip is to enter the U.S. for business, pleasure, or medical treatment; *That they plan to remain for a specific, limited period; *Evidence of funds to cover expenses in the United States; *Evidence of compelling social and economic ties abroad; and *That they have a residence outside the U.S. as well as other binding ties that will insure their return abroad at the end of the visit. All of this according to http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/types/types_1262.html Also, for information regarding the VWP and it's requirements for entry, visit here. http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#mrprequirements Edited January 3, 2010 by Rollercoasterr Link to post Share on other sites
AnnPod Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Hello Rollercoaster, as you can read on those pages you have mentioned here, people from certain countries (most EU countries), do not need to fulfill those requirements (just scroll down to the table and read the extra information). Again, all you need to have is a valid passport and to fill out that card. I've been travelling from EU to the U.S. several times in the last 2 years, I know what I'm talking about Link to post Share on other sites
Rollercoasterr Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 (edited) It doesn't matter what country you're coming from, you STILL have to prove that you're going to go back and that you can support yourself while being here. The thinks I posted are specific for her. She's from Belgium and Belgium applies under the VWP. VWP has it's sets of requirements. I travel back and forth between here and Canada and so does my SO. Canada and the US are like BFFs. But I still have to prove that I have ties to my home country and that I'm able to support myself. So does Mathew when he comes here. Telling someone that all they have to do is provide a passport is really just not a smart thing to do. What were to happen if all she took was that and then she got turned away because she couldn't prove that she was eventually going to return home? They may never ask for it. They didn't ask me for anything the first time I went to Canada. But this last time I asked. It all depends on your BO. It's always better to be safe, provide what the US government website says to provide and then be done with it. I'm not being snarky. Trust me, I'm not. I just want the OP to fully understand that there ARE further requirements other than just whipping out your passport. Oh, and if theres one thing that doing this K-1 visa has taught me, and from all of the people I've met at VJ, it's that if your border guard knows that you're going to visit your boyfriend/girlfriend/fiance/fiancee or whatever, they automatically ASSUME that you're going to stay. They're trained to be that way and have to treat it as such. That's when they start asking for more. Go to visajourney.com and search through the posts and look at how many times BO's have turned down people for not providing the information that's required. Even if they are from the EU countries that you state only need to have a passport. It happens. It happens a lot. Edited January 3, 2010 by Rollercoasterr Link to post Share on other sites
Arabella Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 (edited) I'm a citizen of Spain (which also falls under the Visa Waiver Program) and prior to moving to the US, I traveled back and forth from the US extensively. What AnnPod described is accurate. All you need is your passport and a ticket back home (that's how you prove you intend to go back) which can be dated up to 90 days after your date of entry into the US. In the flight they give you a card which you fill out and they stamp and staple to your passport when you go through customs. During this, they also ask you a few questions in regards to the nature of the visit, how long you intend to stay, where are you staying, and a few other general questions. I was actually never asked any questions about my personal finances. In short, yeah, for a Belgian citizen, all they really need to do is whip out their passport and they are allowed entry... for 90 days. Now, moving to the US permanently... that's a whole different story. It's a lot easier for an EU citizen than for other countries, but it's still a whole lot of paperwork and money. Arabella Edited January 4, 2010 by Arabella Link to post Share on other sites
AnnPod Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Yes, but I wanna clarify one thing: Of course Rollercoaster is right in the respect that you additionally to your passport you should provide: - Evidence that you have booked a flight back (I always showed my print out from my online ticket, it was always OK) - On the card you fill out you have to give the address where you are going to stay Immigration officers ask then sometimes the reason of your stay, now of course then I would never say 'Oh yeah, my boyfriend lives here.' Of course you just say you wanna visit the country, friends, you love your life in your home country and wanna go back to your job/studies. Btw I once went to the U.S. with a J1 visa, very annoying to get and expensive as well (about 700 EUR, but some people get fundings from scholarships/companies they intern etc.). Good luck Link to post Share on other sites
Rollercoasterr Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 (edited) Yes, but I wanna clarify one thing: Of course Rollercoaster is right in the respect that you additionally to your passport you should provide: - Evidence that you have booked a flight back (I always showed my print out from my online ticket, it was always OK) - On the card you fill out you have to give the address where you are going to stay Immigration officers ask then sometimes the reason of your stay, now of course then I would never say 'Oh yeah, my boyfriend lives here.' Of course you just say you wanna visit the country, friends, you love your life in your home country and wanna go back to your job/studies. Btw I once went to the U.S. with a J1 visa, very annoying to get and expensive as well (about 700 EUR, but some people get fundings from scholarships/companies they intern etc.). Good luck You are correct, technically. HOWEVER, if they were to decide to do a K1 or something like that and she kept coming into our country and saying she was visiting friends, her visa application will show up. This will red flag her and she will be taken into secondary. I'm not saying she's going to apply for one, but eventually she may. And when I say evidence that she's going home, I'm not talking about something huge. A return ticket will suffice. Showing bills, a letter from an employer, or a lease to an apartment will suffice as well. If you're just visiting it's very easy, but when love gets involved it gets complicated. You can't flit in and out of the country on a whim. Once the BO's know that you have an American SO(and don't think they don't note it, because they do) they tend to question you more. She needs to keep this in mind. Honesty is always the best policy. Even if they begin to question you, keep being honest and dont sweat it. Never, ever lie to a BO. You never know when it'll bite you right in the ass. Be honest, show them proof that you intend to go back. Go back when you're supposed to and don't overstay your visit. Oh, and just an example of what happened once our K-1 visit showed up in the computer system(I'm the American and was going to visit HIM, mind you. BO asked me my reason for visiting, and I said vacation. He looks at his computer screen, looks at me with a sour look on his face and said "Visiting WHO?". I told him I was going to see my fiance(he had saw it on the screen, you can't lie), and then he bombarded me with questions such as: *How often do you visit him?-we see each other a few times a year *How many times have you been in Canada and for how long?-this time makes twice, a week the last time and a week this time *Did you bring any presents? -No. *Why no gifts? This IS your fiance! -Because we're planning a wedding, and money is better spent on gifts. *How did you meet?-Internet *Is he American or Canadian?- Canadian *Who will be moving? -He will. He then looks at me really funny like he's going to take me into secondary or deny me and then I told him I had my visa papers in my carry on, if he'd like to see them. Also a letter from my employer stating when I was to return to work. He let me pass finally after grumbling something under his breath. It isn't easy, but be honest and good luck! Edited January 5, 2010 by Rollercoasterr Link to post Share on other sites
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