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Tiger Woods to turn to christianity for forgiveness?

Simon Attwood

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theBrokenMuse

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because his Buddhism doesn't offer forgiveness.

Religion *should not* offer forgiveness, imo. People need to take personal responsibility for their actions and seek forgiveness against those they have wronged, as well work towards extending forgiveness to themselves for acting in an all too human manner - not be offered some 'catch all' that can absolve them of any of their transgressions without doing any of the above.

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Purely political move here, losing his integrity in the public eye is costing him $$$.

Umm Eldrick has made no profession of faith despite the thread title. A reporter during an opinion round table on a Sunday news/talk show held out the forgiveness of God that Christianity offers is better then living with the guilt and having that make you a better person that Buddhism offers.

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People need to take personal responsibility for their actions and seek forgiveness against those they have wronged, as well work towards extending forgiveness to themselves for acting in an all too human manner - not be offered some 'catch all' that can absolve them of any of their transgressions without doing any of the above.

 

yup. I know that as Catholics, we're taught that to "sin against" someone is to ruin the sense of community, the relationship with that person, and that to reconcile is to ask forgiveness of them (for inflicting that pain on them) and of yourself (so that you leave the sinful behavior behind). It's not necessarily a "get out of jail free" card, because he *is* accountable for his actions. ALL of them.

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OMG...just take the hate and say.."I was a dumb ass and I hurt a lot of people" Just take the guilt and live with it.

Why can't people just admit to themselves they are morons and try to just make up for it instead of trying to get all forgiven in shizz. I admit my stupidity all the time and to be forgiven for it?....well that is up to the people who I hurt...they may or may not...that is what happens when you play with people's trust and faith in you.

 

Tiger....your sweet guy image is shot now.....end of.

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Simon Attwood

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Hi Everyone,

 

my comment and thread title was a bit tongue in cheek. Judging by comments, not everyone has been reading the article. :)

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TheLoneSock

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Is the point of this thread to bash religion for offering a path of forgiveness, or is it to bash Tiger for using it as a tool for media play?

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Tiger Woods has been advised to turn to Christianity to find forgiveness for his "transgressions" because his Buddhism doesn't offer forgiveness.

i always thought he was moslem

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taiko

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i always thought he was moslem

Why? Thailand is one of the most devout Buddhist nations on earth. And Muslim women are among the last to marry outside of their faith

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Is the point of this thread to bash religion for offering a path of forgiveness, or is it to bash Tiger for using it as a tool for media play?

 

Tiger isn't doing anything. Brit Hume suggested on a Fox News show that Tiger's Buddhist faith doesn't offer forgiveness the way Christianity does (although his knowledge of Buddhism is minimal, by his own admission), so he should convert and be an example for millions everywhere.

 

What Hume suggests is that one should shop for a religion like one would a used car, and find the best deal and jump on it. Pretty lame. Also, he admits he doesn't know anything about Buddhism but just assumes that it is better.

 

Tiger has not commented on any of this.

 

And no, it is not okay for Buddhists to have affairs. Nor is it okay for atheists. Or anyone else. A broken vow or promise is a broken vow or promise no matter who makes it.

 

Although it does seem it is fine for Christian to see prostitutes, molest children, cheat on their wives--including homosexual affairs--do speed, and even be caught using con artist tricks during services and everything is hunky-dory. At worst, make a public apology (cry, of course) and all is well.

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Although it does seem it is fine for Christian to see prostitutes, molest children, cheat on their wives--including homosexual affairs--do speed, and even be caught using con artist tricks during services and everything is hunky-dory. At worst, make a public apology (cry, of course) and all is well.

 

Religion is flawed, but only because man is flawed.

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You know, it's one thing to have an affair with someone you're emotionally involved with (not saying it's right) but it's really another to have slept with 10 or more people while you were married. This is a perfect example of a serial cheater. I have seen a whole other side to Tiger and am totally disillusioned with him. He's not going to get that respect back from most people. He can beg, pray, do handstands - whatever makes him feel good - but his reputation is marred. He should've never been so arrogant as to believe this kind of thing would never come out, and that there wouldn't be consequences.

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You know, it's one thing to have an affair with someone you're emotionally involved with (not saying it's right) but it's really another to have slept with 10 or more people while you were married. This is a perfect example of a serial cheater. I have seen a whole other side to Tiger and am totally disillusioned with him. He's not going to get that respect back from most people. He can beg, pray, do handstands - whatever makes him feel good - but his reputation is marred. He should've never been so arrogant as to believe this kind of thing would never come out, and that there wouldn't be consequences.

When Hume was proselytizing he specifically said that he didn't care about the golf career or endorsements

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When Hume was proselytizing he specifically said that he didn't care about the golf career or endorsements

 

I have no idea what you're talking about.

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OMG...just take the hate and say.."I was a dumb ass and I hurt a lot of people" Just take the guilt and live with it.

Why can't people just admit to themselves they are morons and try to just make up for it instead of trying to get all forgiven in shizz. I admit my stupidity all the time and to be forgiven for it?....well that is up to the people who I hurt...they may or may not...that is what happens when you play with people's trust and faith in you.

 

Tiger....your sweet guy image is shot now.....end of.

 

TOTALLY agree. But most morons lack any self worth therefore cannot dig deep enough inside to see fault.

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I have no idea what you're talking about.

Britt Hume, the TV reporter suggested that he didn't care about Wood's future endorsements on his Sunday news program. What you personally think of Tiger falls into the same category as his future endorsement deals. He went on to suggest that Christianity offers forgiveness, which Hume believed that Buddhism didn't, and such forgiveness would be good for Tiger. From that round table discussion on the week's events, this thread was born.

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Has anyone else noticed the response from people on this subject? The Left and the Right seem to go back and forth on it, along with the Christians. No one really ever hears from the Buddhists.

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People need to take personal responsibility for their actions and seek forgiveness against those they have wronged, as well work towards extending forgiveness to themselves for acting in an all too human manner - not be offered some 'catch all' that can absolve them of any of their transgressions without doing any of the above.

 

yup. I know that as Catholics, we're taught that to "sin against" someone is to ruin the sense of community, the relationship with that person, and that to reconcile is to ask forgiveness of them (for inflicting that pain on them) and of yourself (so that you leave the sinful behavior behind). It's not necessarily a "get out of jail free" card, because he *is* accountable for his actions. ALL of them.

 

Hey I know this is way off topic, although I grew up Catholic and Catholism is very deep in my heart....anyway I totally agree.

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Wow...it's amazing...it appears as if Tiger has to go down the Christian road for the forgiveness, although it doesn't appear as if he will get it from the public....chill on the poor guy people, ya he made a BUNCH of mistakes and got caught....I'm glad I donot get CAUGHT with all of my mistakes, screw ups, whatever.

 

I understand he is in the public eye and there are higher standards in which he should have kept....but give the guy a break....and not saying that to you guys in general, but the public....

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