This Thread Is For All You Average 5'6 and less men.

[Jersey Shortie]

I would just like to share two of my more recent dating experiences. I went out with two different men these past two months. One was all of 5'5 and the other was 5'6 AND heavy (over-weight..whatever you want to call it) and both of them ended up rejecting me. The 5'5 guy I was attracted to. The 5'6 guy I decided to give a chance becaues he was fun to talk to and is a talented muscian. I am in no way ugly and have infact dated men 6+. I work out regularly, I am quite charming, and do not pester men with questions about their baby making abilities. I am not super hot..I am pretty cute though. I get cat-called on the street sometimes.

 

So I am sick and tired of seeing the average guys here complain how the super hot chick doesn't want him. Boohoo. Sometimes the average 5'6" or less guy doesn't want the girl either. Which is fine. Because I am not broken hearted over these guys. But I liked them both enough to at least want to date them longer and get to know them. Neither was interested in me for the same. I am just sharing this to point out the fact that 5'5" guys reject too. And that they are not just rejected. Both of those guys would have been lucky to be with me. And I don't say that arrogantly at all.

[dreamergrl]

I can relate to this. A guy I dated when I moved out here was exactly my height, maybe even a tad bit shorter. I'm 5 feet 5 inches. After a while he blew me off.

 

And for whichever one of the short average guys who are whining about this that claimed that only drug users and fat people get interested in shorter guys, I'm neither.

[Jersey Shortie]

I actually think shorter men are so insecure, the are insecure about my petite stature. I get hit on more by taller men who are really turned on by the difference in my size compared to them. Shorter guys are not as impressed with me.

[Woggle]

With al due respect it is probably nothing physical that turns men off about you. If you come across offline the way you do hear it can be a turnoff to men. I am not judging because I am as bitter as anybody here but I might be better at hiding it offline than you.

 

I have never seen short men have much trouble in the dating arena. With men unless they are hideous it is mostly attitude and demeanor.

[Jersey Shortie]

But I don't. I don't come off the same in real life as I do online. I am quite sweet, personable, smile, laugh and like to joke around alot. I am quite charming. So lets not turn this thread into that.

[burning 4 revenge]

With al due respect it is probably nothing physical that turns men off about you. If you come across offline the way you do hear it can be a turnoff to men. I am not judging because I am as bitter as anybody here but I might be better at hiding it offline than you.

 

I have never seen short men have much trouble in the dating arena. With men unless they are hideous it is mostly attitude and demeanor.

How do you spell here offline?

[Stung]

I have dated men ranging from about 5'7" to 6'4"...I tend not to date men shorter than 5'7", but I feel that's reasonable enough as I am six feet. I have dated women and come to the conclusion that I prefer to date women who are about 5'7" and up as well, I dated a petite girl once and it felt kind of strange, it was easier to pick her up to kiss her than to bend down all the time .

 

Anyway, I'm no supermodel but I've always done well enough with the fellas (and the ladies). I dated a 6'3" male model for several months but broke up with him because he was too shallow and had no real backbone; I dated a 5'7" brawny cop and broke up with him because I found out he was married; I dated a 5'8" poor graduate student who was a great writer but drank too much, and he dumped me and broke my heart...I was stupid enough to go out with him TWICE, I liked him so much. Such is life. I suppose some posters will tell me all of this is negated by the fact that my husband is 6'1", but, whatever. Since he's the same height I am or slightly shorter in many of my shoes, it's not like I go around revering my husband for his awesome height, he just looks normal to me.

[counterman]

It is all about attitude and the way you carry yourself. I have a few friends below 5'5 and they do complain about being shorter than the girls they fancy. There lack of confidence does show and they prefer not to ask girls out as they think it might be embarassing and they fear rejection. In saying that, a couple of my friends that are around 5'5 have no problem at all of girls and they even reject the ones they don't like.

 

Though there are some women who would not date a guy due to their height, there are others who would. So, chin up! There's plenty of girls around!

[ella23]

I know a man who is 5'4" and is married to quite a pretty woman who has a nice personality and is not fat or a drug user either.

[sharkhunter]

So I am sick and tired of seeing the average guys here complain how the super hot chick doesn't want him. Boohoo. Sometimes the average 5'6" or less guy doesn't want the girl either.

 

 

That's pure bull & you know it

[cognac]

But I don't. I don't come off the same in real life as I do online. I am quite sweet, personable, smile, laugh and like to joke around alot. I am quite charming. So lets not turn this thread into that.

 

 

My feeling is that you probably did something to make these shorter guys feel insecure. I went out with a girl like you once but the problem was she was so charming, she couldn't help but "charm everyone". She would flirt with my 6 feet tall friends right in front of me, and while we weren't serious, if you do that you're out. For us guys who get rejected all our life for our height, you got to show us with your actions that we are the only ones you have eyes for, it may sound insecure, but it's just a natural reaction to being scorned by women and always being picked last.

 

Knowing how women are, if I get the hint that a woman thinks she's better than me (you make it obvious in your post that you thought that) and is overconfident, I book. Why? Because I know it won't last, she is just using me as a placeholder until 6'2 prince charming comes along.

 

If anything I stick around most when a woman thinks I'm superior to her. Women only stick around when they think their man has more to offer than they do. This girl who I'm into always would say how much "cuter " I was than her and stuff like that, I would reassure her it wasn't true and she was beautiful to me. Now I really regret it. Women are never content with an equal.

Edited January 18, 2010 by cognac

[cognac]

To all the girls who say "I dated a 5'7 guy once, but my husband is shaquille o'neal", yes it is relevant who you end up with . I've seen a few guys my height get a decent date, but it always ends up with the woman leaving him for the first tall guy who shows interest in them.

[ella23]

To all the girls who say "I dated a 5'7 guy once, but my husband is shaquille o'neal", yes it is relevant who you end up with . I've seen a few guys my height get a decent date, but it always ends up with the woman leaving him for the first tall guy who shows interest in them.

That's not true.

Yes, I've dated a 5'7" guy, but we didn't break up because I wanted to move on to someone who was taller.

Just because you've had bad experiences, doesn't mean every girl is as shallow as the ones you've been with.

[OpenGL]

I would just like to share two of my more recent dating experiences. I went out with two different men these past two months. One was all of 5'5 and the other was 5'6 AND heavy (over-weight..whatever you want to call it) and both of them ended up rejecting me. The 5'5 guy I was attracted to. The 5'6 guy I decided to give a chance becaues he was fun to talk to and is a talented muscian. I am in no way ugly and have infact dated men 6+. I work out regularly, I am quite charming, and do not pester men with questions about their baby making abilities. I am not super hot..I am pretty cute though. I get cat-called on the street sometimes.

 

So I am sick and tired of seeing the average guys here complain how the super hot chick doesn't want him. Boohoo. Sometimes the average 5'6" or less guy doesn't want the girl either. Which is fine. Because I am not broken hearted over these guys. But I liked them both enough to at least want to date them longer and get to know them. Neither was interested in me for the same. I am just sharing this to point out the fact that 5'5" guys reject too. And that they are not just rejected. Both of those guys would have been lucky to be with me. And I don't say that arrogantly at all.

 

Made up story. This never happened.

[cognac]

I actually think shorter men are so insecure, the are insecure about my petite stature. I get hit on more by taller men who are really turned on by the difference in my size compared to them. Shorter guys are not as impressed with me.

 

Or maybe these tall guys just know how much it turns virtually all women on to be a lot taller than them, and try to milk it for everything it's worth by constantly reminding you how much taller they are. This is especially true if they have nothing worthwhile except tallness to offer you.

 

Or maybe, you just smile a lot more at tall guys and give them inviting signals to hit on you. If I'm somewhere and a girl is giving my tall friend signals to go talk to her, I'm not going to go hit on her in his place.

 

Some women will give guys 5'7 a chance only if there are no tall guys in sight , in my experience. Virtually all the "buying signals" are thrown at tall guys

[TheBigQuestion]

Hey cognac, I'm 6 feet tall and am a retired frat boy. Let's see what assumptions you make about me and how wrong you will actually end up being. Seriously, it seems like every short guy out there is convinced that no one over 5'10" has trouble finding dates/getting laid/being in relationships, or that they actually have a massively easier time. And not only that, I have several acquaintances who are short who I've seen turn down women who were all over them on a basis consistent with what any tall guy would do. This corroborates the OP's anecdote. Seriously, how do you and all your other bitter short friends on this message board keep up this fatalistic attitude? It's starting to tire ME and I'm not in your shoes, nor do I know you personally.

[cognac]

Hey cognac, I'm 6 feet tall and am a retired frat boy. Let's see what assumptions you make about me and how wrong you will actually end up being.

 

 

Assumption #1: you probably get laid every day in your frat boy days.

 

Assumption #2: you are now 40, obese, and regretting not keeping the phone numbers of all those chicks you hit and quit.

 

Not saying it's not somewhat difficult for guys like you to keep relationships. Just saying that it's a little easier when you get women throwing themselves at you in virtually every social situation.

 

5'7 guy to get a girlfriend: has to have a superhuman personality, amazing talents, be very handsome, and have an above average amount of money.

 

6'0 fratboy to get a girlfriend: say hi to a woman and make fart jokes.

[randall]

I just saw "Up in the Air", the new movie with George Clooney, and at one point two of the women are talking about their ideal men vs the one they'll "settle on". The ideal man is 6 feet, then as they get older they just "pray he'll be taller than them".

 

It was pretty funny reading all these height threads then going to a movie and seeing a very similar conversation take place on screen. Fortunately it's just a movie and they aren't serious....but they did it in the movie because in general women relate to it.

[TheBigQuestion]

Assumption #1: you probably get laid every day in your frat boy days.

 

Assumption #2: you are now 40, obese, and regretting not keeping the phone numbers of all those chicks you hit and quit.

 

Not saying it's not somewhat difficult for guys like you to keep relationships. Just saying that it's a little easier when you get women throwing themselves at you in virtually every social situation.

 

5'7 guy to get a girlfriend: has to have a superhuman personality, amazing talents, be very handsome, and have an above average amount of money.

 

6'0 fratboy to get a girlfriend: say hi to a woman and make fart jokes.

 

 

Regarding Assumption 1: Save for my first two years of college when I had my one (and only) girlfriend (which was NOT due to skill/looks on my part, I was actually very disheveled and unstylish), I didn't get laid very much at all the last 2 years, nor did I get into a successful relationship. I did not have women throwing themselves at me, most of my brothers did not have women constantly throwing themselves at them, and it was much the same all throughout the Greek system. Every place had a small handful of Alpha Dogs and then everyone else was pretty average.

 

Assumption 2: I'm actually 22, thanks.

 

As far as who I slept with, there's only been 2 girls that you could call "ultra hot."

The other 5 ranged from absolutely hideous (thank alcohol for that) to very avarage.

 

In what other ways can I prove you wrong today?

[cognac]

I just saw "Up in the Air", the new movie with George Clooney, and at one point two of the women are talking about their ideal men vs the one they'll "settle on". The ideal man is 6 feet, then as they get older they just "pray he'll be taller than them".

 

It was pretty funny reading all these height threads then going to a movie and seeing a very similar conversation take place on screen. Fortunately it's just a movie and they aren't serious....but they did it in the movie because in general women relate to it.

 

Great, yet another medium in which the girl who is lukewarm about me can be influenced. I really wish I lived in a post-apocalyptic world with no hollywood or george clooney and just pull random women onto my motorcycle.

 

Regarding Assumption 1: Save for my first two years of college when I had my one (and only) girlfriend (which was NOT due to skill/looks on my part, I was actually very disheveled and unstylish),[/Quote]

 

Thanks for proving my point. If you're tall looks and skills matter, but you can still get a girlfriend as long as you are over 6 feet tall.

 

I didn't get laid very much at all the last 2 years, nor did I get into a successful relationship. I did not have women throwing themselves at me, most of my brothers did not have women constantly throwing themselves at them, and it was much the same all throughout the Greek system.[/Quote]

 

If you're 6 feet tall you're going to meet women much easier than a guy whose 5'7. If you have any friends 5'7 and down who aren't rich/have arnold bodies, you know full well how much the situation sucks for us.

 

 

Every place had a small handful of Alpha Dogs and then everyone else was pretty average.

 

Assumption 2: I'm actually 22, thanks.

 

As far as who I slept with, there's only been 2 girls that you could call "ultra hot."

The other 5 ranged from absolutely hideous (thank alcohol for that) to very avarage.

 

In what other ways can I prove you wrong today? [/Quote]

 

You've still gotten 2 "ultra hot girlfriends",despite a disheveled appearance and no social skills (you admitted). Compare that to guys like OPENGL who work really hard on their appearance, attitude, financial status, etc and still don't get girls.

 

You're 22 and have had 7 girlfriends. I am 21 and have had 0 girlfriends.

 

While I may be exaggerrating a bit, 7 to 0 is still a huge advantage, no?

[temple]

Seriously, how do you and all your other bitter short friends on this message board keep up this fatalistic attitude? It's starting to tire ME and I'm not in your shoes, nor do I know you personally.

 

Of course not, you'd never fit into their weeny weeny shoes!

[melodymatters]

Of course not, you'd never fit into their weeny weeny shoes!

 

 

YOU are too mean,.... and funny !

 

 

To whoever said that JS was making this up, really, why WOULD a woman make up a story about being rejected by two different guys ?

 

........People with chips on their shoulders and axe's to grind, NEVER make good partners.........

[cognac]

Woah temple you're razor sharp this morning. Where do you get your material from? Or did you read it in cosmo?

 

I'll make sure to come up with some schoolyard fat jokes or better yet, ethnic jokes, next time women are talking about themselves. Hopefully everyone will be a good sport (especially women) and we can all laugh together.

 

Will you join me Temple? I don't even need to know your weight race religion or sexual preference, I've got a thousand jokes about women which my friends think are hilarious, that I'm itching to tell. I'm sure you would never report me for such a thing, right?

[shadowplay]

Men 5'7" and under are pretty uncommon. I was just thinking to myself that I don't even know any guys that short.

 

I'd date a guy who was 5'7" if I really liked everything else about him. Anything shorter than that would probably be a deal-breaker because it would just feel unnatural to me. I'm 5'5.5". I often wear heals and I'd hate to be taller than the guy I was dating.

 

While my ideal is over 6', I'm pretty indifferent to height until he falls below 5'9", at which point it starts to become an issue. (I'll date 5'8" but his height would bug me a bit.) By indifferent I mean that a taller guy in that 5'9"+ range only gets a small boost.

Edited January 18, 2010 by shadowplay

[b52s]

With al due respect it is probably nothing physical that turns men off about you. If you come across offline the way you do hear it can be a turnoff to men. I am not judging because I am as bitter as anybody here but I might be better at hiding it offline than you.

 

I have never seen short men have much trouble in the dating arena. With men unless they are hideous it is mostly attitude and demeanor.

 

 

I think the only time short men have a problem with dating...is just the ONLINE dating part....women reject short men when it comes to online dating very easily.

 

In the real world, different story.