Finding porn magazines--Is he fantasizing about other women? How do I believe in us?

[coldheart]

^^^ I may live in Utah, but that doesn't make me a polygamist. I'm far from immature, but to continue to blame pornography for every problem that pops up in your relationship is pretty childish. If you really have a problem with it in your relationship then I sympathize with you. However, if you spend hours digging through your spouses computer, or going through their belongings in order to justify your insecurity, I can't condone that. The reason that I am so flippant about this subject, is because I have been accused of the same thing. The only difference is that after the failed computer, and wallet searches, my wife just found something else to complain about, not realizing that the damage to my trust had already been done. Why was she searching in the first place? Well I stay in the house, limit my friends, and rarely go anywhere without her. She figured no man could be so loyal, I must be hiding something. In the end, the only thing she found was a divorce. Is it worth it?

[dyermaker]

Originally posted by JustBeinBlonde

These men are too busy thinking with the wrong head.

Which head were they thinking with when they married you? That's not enough for you?

Originally posted by JustBeinBlonde

They're looking at silicone inflated, fake baked, dyed hair, liposucioned, empty headed women. Its just a bunch of unreal ink blots on paper.

If the women are so insignificant, why are you threatened by them? Do you think a man would want to be caught dead in public with one of those women? No, it's fantasy and reality. Twist it all you want, it doesn't change the men.

Originally posted by JustBeinBlonde

Men who look at porn are dumb.

Women who make generalizations are dumb. Perhaps the smart men don't get caught.

Originally posted by JustBeinBlonde

Grow up and live in the real world men, if indeed you are men.

We do. We also look at porn. This doesn't bother us. This bothers you.

Originally posted by JustBeinBlonde

Women need to stop putting up with this immature crap.

Maybe you're right, you guys should start your own island.

___________

 

Okay, I'm done on porn. Women, "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."

[DerangedAngel]

Maybe you're right, you guys should start your own island.

 

Cute, D! Thought you were gonna stop "encouraging" these threads though? lol Couldn't help yourself huh? I think discussing/arguing about porn is more entertaining than porn itself. But thats just me.

 

-Deranged

[dyermaker]

Originally posted by DerangedAngel

I think discussing/arguing about porn is more entertaining than porn itself.

 

Don't push it there. You're right though, I just can't stop myself. Posting about porn that is.

[coldheart]

I have seen the light. Porn and any man who looks at it is evil.

[dyermaker]

Originally posted by coldheart

The techniques outlined in this video will be sure to get your hubby off the computer and in to bed permanently.

 

So will like, breaking his legs.

[JustBeinBlonde]

"Women who make generalizations are dumb."

 

Women who inflate thier breasts and pose nude so lil pre-pubescent boys can oogle over them are dumb!"

 

"Perhaps the smart men don't get caught."

 

Dyermaker, aren't you up a bit past your bed time? Are you saying that men who hide secrets, lie and don't get caught wasting their families money on TRASH are smart?

 

"We do. We also look at porn. This doesn't bother us. This bothers you."

 

Does Mommy know you're looking at porn, does she approve? Does she know what you're spending your milk money on?

 

___________

 

Okay, I'm done on porn. Women, "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."

 

Yes lil dyermaker the quote is true. One star for maturity, but negative two for your "smart men don't get caught" remark.

[dyermaker]

Women who inflate thier breasts and pose nude so lil pre-pubescent boys can oogle over them are dumb!"

 

I'd agree. I'd much rather watch them having sex than engage in intellectual conversations with them. But to think "lil pre-pubescent boys" are their target audience is grossly ignoring who has access to credit cards. It's a multibillion dollar industry for a reason.

 

Dyerman, aren't you up a bit past your bed time? Are you saying that men who hide secrets, lie and don't get caught wasting their families money on TRASH are smart?

 

My sleep habits are both irrelevant and none of your business. I hate the lie, but I understand the liars. Women get so irrational over porn, that it often creates conflict. I don't approve of lying in a relationship, and going behind your partner's back. But I refuse to condemn and simplify a complex issue.

 

Does Mommy know you're looking at porn, does she approve? Does she know what you're spending your milk money on?

 

Mom may not, but Dad probably does, as would 95% of the male population. I have a job, I pay taxes. One thing I don't pay for is porn. It's the 21st century, if you didn't know that porn was free, you must not use the internet too often. I don't have a porn addiction, and I have plenty of respect for women. If you are threatened by the fact that I view porn, and you feel comfortable blaming me for that, go ahead. I don't obsess over porn, I don't pay money for porn, and I don't watch porn in an unhealthy or irrational manner. I'm also not alone in doing this. I'm very, very, very not alone.

 

By the way, just to keep up the lovely trend of correcting one another, please lose the condescending remarks. If you think most males object to porn, you are naive, not me. Age has nothing to do with it. When you call me "little", make references to my "mommy", and allude to my "milk money", you fail to do the intended effect of making my opinions seem insignificant, instead, you make yourself look stupid. I may be young, but I'm perfectly capable of filtering actual arguments from defensive retorts.

[Kriz]

I like porn, sorry. My gf knows I like it. Sometimes, when I've been a nice boy, she rewards me by doing 'porny things to me. I like that even more. And when she does porny things to me, I reward her by doing porny things to her. And though I'm not sure, because I can't hear her very well because of all the oohs and aahs, I think she likes it too.

 

 

Now, I'm an insecure little man, so you can get me on that one. But I personally believe porn is offensive to women because it 'openly shows' men fantasise over other women sometimes. Truth is, you will never know for sure, even if porn would be banned from this earth forever. I love my girl very much, I really do, and I would never cheat on her.

 

But, when I see an attractive girl, I can picture her naked. Is that cheating? I think porn is the same thing, but it's of course more 'out there'. Women realise at that moment we do those things. I understand you find it more or less offensive, because if I would tell my girl every time I've pictured another girl naked she would go up the roof.

 

But look on the bright side! Everytime men look at porn, they aren't lookin at 'real-life' women. We look at something thats an illusion. I would think that's far less threatening to your relationship than fantasising about women in his real life.

 

I realise I've said too much. You can shoot me now.

[Kriz]

Just this one other thing:

 

Women who inflate thier breasts and pose nude so lil pre-pubescent boys can oogle over them are dumb!"

 

 

You're probably right. And they're far less threatening than attractive women we could meet every day that are not dumb.

 

And another thing. They could be dumb single mothers whe need the money because they want to provide their little kid a better life. Thank god he gave her nice boobs, because dumb and no-boobs is worse.

 

I know this. I am dumb and have no boobs. It sucks.

[jmargel]

Originally posted by Kriz^

I know this. I am dumb and have no boobs. It sucks.

 

Well then you don't have much going for you.

 

My gf & me watch porn all the time, and think its great. I'm 29 & she's 26. Mature adult won't aren't threatened by watching other people have sex.

 

If you are that insecure about yourself, then perhaps counciling might help you. Just because a guy looks at porn doesn't mean he doesn't love his wife, gf, etc.

 

What about swingers? There is a BIG difference between having sex and making love. Its about about security within' yourself and love for your mate.

[Kriz]

Well then you don't have much going for you.

 

 

Is it so hard for people nowadays to appreciate a touch of sarcasm? Be it clear that I don't think of myself as dumb and I don't want boobs, however nice I think they are. That was a joke.

 

 

Just because a guy looks at porn doesn't mean he doesn't love his wife, gf, etc.

 

 

Have you even read my post? I never said otherwise. Read between the lines please.