6 Yr Marriage over? Any Hope?

[Devildog1981]

Hello. I am new to the forums. Just want to get some advice in regards to my current situation. I am a 29 yrs old and my wife is 28 yrs old. We have been married for 6 yrs. We have two kids; 5 yr old Son, and a 3 yr old daughter. I am a Active duty Marine that is currently on recruiting duty, one of the toughest duties out there due to the hours and stress. My wife is a Registered Nurse. Recruiting is a 3 year tour and we have about 8-9 months to go. We were planning on moving back to NC and contiuing our life. We have very little debt and never experienced any real major set backs in our relationship.

 

A little background with our marriage. It has been up and down. I think I could of communicated a lot better and showed more attention to her. I have never cheated on her emotionally or physically. We have had problems early in our marriage with her having 3 emotional affairs that she let me know about a couple of years ago on Valentines Day. I would of never known had she not told me. She said that they all happened during the first 3 years or so. She said God was impressing on her to tell me. Said they just kissed and whatnot. I have caught her in the past exchanging e-mails or IM with other guys too. Since I have been on this duty I have worked roughly 15+ hours 6 days a week with sundays some days. It has really stressed me out and I basically turned to going to the pool hall after work and have a few drinks to escape reality for a bit. I have not been myself since I came out in this duty. I have totally let her wither with my lack of affection and communication. I would get home on days that I might only work 12 hours and be mentally and physically exhausted. She basically turned to a single mom where in the past I would be home at 5 pm to help with getting dinner ready, kids ready, now I couldnt be depended on to do that. By the time I get home the kids are usually in bed.

 

Last Sat she came out and said "do not worry about me coming with you when you go back to NC", basically dont make plans around me. She said that she was through. I was shocked and confused. I made so many mistakes the first couple of days...you know begging, pleading, writting letters etc. She couldnt believe how I was acting. She thought I would of been cool with it. She took her wedding rings off and refused to say "I Love You". We slept in seperate rooms and all that jazz. I was really losing it, she seemed so disconnected and it hurt so bad. I feel extremley bad because I feel I have caused her to become like this to me. She said that we were bascially a mistake and that she has been thinking of this practically from day 1. She says I am too content of a guy. I have become "Boring" (im working on that now).

 

So around Tue or so I got a gut feeling that she was seeing someone or somthing. So I put a keylogger that captures keystrokes and takes screenshots when she is active on it. Maybe kinda weird but I needed to know. Sure enough she has been talking to another married man with kids. I couldnt believe it. They had been talking for maybe 3 weeks once I found out. I confronted her and she said that nothing has happened and that he is her Best friend. They have told ech other "I love you" and all that mushy stuff you say when you are in lust. My wife mention in a e-mail they were brought together by some comsic thingy. He works with her at the hospital. I e-mailed him and told him I was going to expose it to his wife if he did not stop responding to my wifes text and whatnot.

 

So after reading a few books and snooping around these forums I started to do the 180 treatment. I have stopped calling, texting, initiating conversation, begging, pleading etc. I have started doing stuff I once did, being more upbeat and changing small things. Started going back to church and whatnot. I even feel genuienly good some days as I have put up with a bunch of her lies and now I will not have to deal with them anymore. She stopped going to church and says that God told her it would be ok to divorce me. Yeah, ok. I am going to individual marriage counseling, if anything to learn from all of this. I am also going to go see a counselor just to get some stuff off my chest.

 

I think my wife has been without affection and communication for the past 2 years and someone has come along and filled that void. I know if I took some time and tried harder maybe she wouldnt want to leave me. Since doing the 180 she seems to be ok with the whole decision. I think she is still in the affair fog. I am going to stay strong and stick to my guns. Regardless I will just focus on myself and become a better man.

 

Ok so here are some of my questions. Remember I am in the Marines recruiting in Michigan. My wife family lives in Charlotte, NC.

 

1. I told her I wanted her out of the house so she can have her space. She says she is planning on moving around May or so. I really do not feel like waiting that long. Should I move to a friends house? I hate seeing her everyday. I started packing her things around the house last night. She text me on accident in the morning I think meant for OM "He started packing my stuff. Can you believe it"? lol

 

2. In regards to the 180 treatment, what would be more effective; living in the same house until May or so or stay at a fellow Marines apartment?

 

3. I was married in NC can she initiate divorce in Michigan? I have not talked to a lawyer yet. She has not eaither and has not filed any paperwork.

 

4. Based on what I wrote, how would you go about this? I am up for any suggestions. I feel that my situation is a bit unique due to being isolated from family and friends here in Michigan. I hate this state btw.lol

 

Thank you all for reading this rather long post.

 

Jonathan

[mimidarlin]

Divorce can be initiated anywhere. You will need your marriage certificate and identification. You should go see a lawyer about proceeding with separation or divorce. She is refusing to move out and the court may make you move to disturb the children less. I wouldn't move into another place without consulting with the lawyer though. When you move you set a precedent for the living arrangements.

 

You need to have some idea of what it will cost you to pay support for the children as well. It is good that you haven't had any major financial difficulties but you should work on dividing up the bank accounts. Investigate if she has any accounts open in her name only etc.

 

I have read reports that described how difficult being a recruiter was and that it may be the one of the most stressful positions in the military. You may have isolated and pulled away from her but she chose to have emotional affairs as a substitute relationship. She is pursuing a relationship with a married man. Do not blame yourself for her choices. Your actions contributed to the situation but you didn't choose to cheat on her.

 

Be strong for yourself and your children. Go to the lawyer before moving out so that visitation support etc. are worked out.

 

Best of luck.

[Devildog1981]

Thanks mimidarlin. Yeah was not sure about the whole moving out. Killin me her being here acting like nothing is wrong. O well, life goes on. Thanks for the advice.

[mark982]

devildog, don't threaten to expose her affair, DO IT. the quickest way to end the affair fog is by exposure.

[Devildog1981]

Yeah, I need to. I need to find the OW. I did a white pages search by his name and found where he lived but not certain. My wife won't tell me. She says his wife is stay at home type so my wife never went to his house. Will have to do some more diggin. The way I am looking at it if it's over it's over, at least the other married woman should get a heads up. What do I got to lose?

[Brooke79]

Okay your wife sounds really selfish. You are a faithful provider and its ridiculous of her to say that you are boring. Relationships have peaks and valleys. As long as you respect your wife and don't lie, I don't understand what could be so bad. You have not cheated or anything so I don't get it. There seems to be something perhaps with our age group, I'm not sure. I am 30 and I notice a lot of posts involving people who are plus/minus 2 years. It might be something about getting married mid twenties and then hitting 30, I don't know. It could just be coincidental or it might really be some sort of crisis that we go through. Most of my friends are unmarried and want to settle and still go out a lot, a lot my H's friends too. My husband sometimes speaks as though he thinks the grass is greener. Then when he goes out he complains about not having a good time. Just know you are not alone and also know you deserve better. Take care and keep posting, welcome to LS.

[D-Lish]

From reading your posts, I am not surprised the marriage isn't working out.

 

Between you working ridiculous hours, and then avoiding the problem by not even coming home after work- it's no wonder it's not working.

 

You're admittedly horrible at communicating, and she's selfish and lonley at home while you're out drinking beer after work with two little ones at home (truly a bad combination).

 

Get this divorce over and done with- the two of you are seriously incompatible.

[LuckyClover]

Jonathon

 

I'm sorry man...I know how you feel, believe me I know. Don't move! and don't let her take the kids when you kick her out. They are your kids and you deserve them. She needs to realize that she is not just divorcing you...she is divorcing them too... Too many woman out there are commiting adultry(physically and emotionally) and then they get the house and the kids and the free money from child support...then they get food stamps and free medical... while the man that does nothing but be a good husband and father gets to live alone and pay the bitch money to deprive him of his kids. STAND YOUR GROUND!!! don't believe everyone that says a mom always gets the kids...ITS NOT TRUE!!! continue the 180, it's really the only thing that works, if it is suppose to work.... and don't worry the pain does lessen over time... in fact the freedom is pretty nice... I hate the dating **** though...but continue focusing on you and your kids...you will be okay.

[Gunny376]

WARNING! This turned out to be long. But it was in response to the original posters initial questions. Being a retired United States Marine? I had a lot of 'news he could use" based upon extensive knowledge and experience. Per LS's rules I've tried to be inclusive for the whole of the body of LS. Which is why I went so far as to spell out the meaning of Marine Corps acronyms and such that only a Marine would comprehend and understand

 

I never was a recruiter, but I've heard some really brutal stories. My "B" billet tour was the drill field, ~ LOL ~ Nine damn years at Parris Island, on and off the drill field and out at the ranges.

 

I have spoken to fellow Marines that have pulled both, and to the man they've said they would take the drill field over any day.

 

Had a friend of mine that basically 'cracked up' from the stress. Had another that when he failed to meet quota consistently each month? The RO reassigned him to another station. He was white, and sent to Watts! The same RO sent another Marine (Black) to Beverly Hills.

 

 

Couple of questions? Do you own the house, or are you renting?

 

Are you going back to 'North Click' (North Carolina) as a Marine @ Cherry Point, Camp Lejeune, New River or are you getting out?

 

Are you going to base as permanent party, or back to the Fleet Marine Force.

 

(Sidebar for non-Marine LoveShackers ~ At most Marine Bases you have base personal. These are the Marines that run the infrasture of the base and keeps running and working. The you have the Fleet Marine Force Marines. These are one's you see deploying to invade or provide relief ~ any given Marine can be to either one)

What is your Military Occupational Speciality (Regular Job)? Are you going to your Twenty + or are you getting out at the end of this contract?

 

What I would highly recommend that immediately get an attorney have divorce papers drawn up, have her served, get a preliminary hearing set up and a court date set ~ the sooner the better.

 

Seek sole custody of the children ~ not joint, shared, or any of that BS. At the preliminary hearing you want to shot for temporary sole custody. You also want to keep everything. She walks out with the clothes on her back and her personal belongings. She get reasonable visitation.

 

If your getting out the Corps. then you want her to have to pay child support, medical and dental. She also has to pay all of the bills.

 

As far as the children go you can always put them in day care, or hire a babysitter. You also want to have in the divorce papers that if you deploy overseas that your Mother & Father, sister, brother. aunt will get custody.

 

The strategy is to seek everything, shoot for higher orbit, you can always be more generous and negotiate from there? Its all a matter of where you get in the river. If you get in further up you will have more time and room to maneuver out of the river before you go over the falls than you would have if you got in the river further down.

 

 

Don't assume that you can't get custody. You can. Women are granted custody 90% of the time primarily because the fathers don't contest for custody.

 

But in the 10% of the cases where they do? They're awarded custody 90% of the time. I knew a career Marine Master Sergeant whose wife went flaky on him and up and left him with five children all under the age twelve or so.

 

On one of those home improvement shows (where the go in with a RV and help out some unfortunate family, they had a Marine SSgt (Staff Sergeant) that lost his right leg in Iraq. He got back, got healed up and threw physical rehab.

 

Wife couldn't handle flaked out ~ and left him with three small children under the age I would say nine or so.

 

Do not move out of the house, and I don't give a damn what she says or does.

 

I cannot emphasise this enough!

 

DO NOT MOVE OUT OF THE HOUSE!

 

Where you children are? Is where you need to be. Where they go? You go. Do not let the wife take them if she decides to move out. I don't give a damn if you if you've got lock them in the bathroom, and bar the door with your body!

 

The reason its absolutely need sole custody of your children, is that if your not careful? You could be alienated from them ~ and you know them nor you them. I can sit here all night and tell you horror stories.

 

A friend of mine got divorced. She took the two kids back to Ohio. He used up all his leave (vacation) and 96's (four day holidays and passes) to go up there and see his kids. Had to move into the staff NCO barracks because he took all the bills from the marriage.

 

Flash a couple of years down the road the X gets killed in a car wreck. He goes to get his kids........and he's served with court papers. The step-father is suing him for custody of his children!

 

Now you would think this is a no brainier right? He had to spend ten's of thousands of dollars fighting this in court. Apparently in Ohio the welfare and well being of the children takes precedence over parental rights!

 

At 29 I'm guessing your a staff sergeant with about 11 years in. If your thinking about getting out ~ think a damn again. If you think life in the Corps or on recruiting duty has been hard ~ you've not seen nothing yet.

 

For some reason there's a prejudices against hiring veterans. And the longer you've been in? The more the bias is. But a lot of is the fact the number on source of employers are small businesses, and the vast majority of them are family own, employing less than 100 people, (actually less than 10)

 

The best jobs go to family, friends, and acquaintances. Then they go to referrals of family, friends and acquaintances.

 

Where I work at now? You've got the 'top boss' Wade. Then you've got his son, his daughter, his grandson, his grandson's former GF, his nephew, his niece's husband. The jobs that are there? They're not listed at the employment office, their not listed in the newspaper, they're not listed anywhere.

 

To get them you've got to know someone. Why? Because if you don't list them your not subject to anti-discrimination laws against women and minor ties.

 

Don't think your going to get out and go to college. I know plenty of people working less than $10 an hour jobs with college degrees. And we're talking about not just Bachelors, but Masters, Master of Business Administration Degrees.

 

I know retired Marine Gunnery Sergeants working at Hardees, retired Marine Master Gunnery Sergeants working over school districts janitorial staff, retired Marine Sergeant Majors working as VocAg instructors for half of what they made on active duty. Retired Marine Sergeant Majors selling jewelry out of jewelry stores. Retired Marine Gunny Sergeants selling cars, (I once was one of them)

 

Your absolute best bet would do complete at a minimum your 20+, retire from the Corps. Anything that you earn after that ~ aka your civilian pay is nothing but gravy. Even with a minimum wage job ~ I'll never earn less than $35,000 a year with my military retirement.

 

Where I work now family medical coverage (dental, vision, not included) is a whopping $860 a month after taxes have been taken out. With TriCare (military medical insurance) and Retired DeltaDental my premiums are only about $60 a month. Then of course there's MWR privilege's, commissary privilege's (name brand groceries 30% cheaper than at Walmart ~ and no sales tax) PX privileged.

 

I just went through a medical, dental issue ~ and from the Dr's office, to Walgreen's, to the Dentist my out of pocket for deductibles and medicine?

 

$6

 

Whether you retire or not ~ make damn sure you convert your SGLI to VGLI. Your just not going to find a $250,000 term life insurance policy for less than $20 a month.

 

Make sure that you use you GI bill for education. Even if it just to get your VA degree in whatever.

 

Then I would look at (make sure you do it within two years of retiring) becoming a MCJOTC instructor. You draw your retirement pay, you draw your base pay, BAS, BAQ, + a check from the local school district as a teacher. And you don't even have to have a degree to do it.

 

Here in Alabama if your part of the state employee retirement system (aka as teachers, state employee, MCJROTC instructor with the local school district ) If you put into the retirement fund say around $20,000 of your own money? You can retire from the state in little as five years!

 

Finally, dump the Marine Drill Instructor face and attitude. Walk around as though you've just won the lottery, Smile, smile, smile ~ project nothing but a positive attitude. Do the 180's but when your around the STBXW? Your nothing more than Mr. Sunshine.

 

I don't give a damn if you have to pull off of the highway five minutes later on the way to work and ball your eyes out. Your attitude and demeanor around her is nothing but :) :) and :cool:

 

Whether she stays, comes or goes~ your and and and

 

I've got to honest with ya! She's sounds like a flaky broad to me! You can't dump her fast enough. I've an aunt whose an RN, and she's on her fourth marriage.

 

BTW, when I was in college I use to work at the university's registrar's office, on the VA's work-study program. I go in one day and get handed a list of names about four sheets long. They want me to pull their college transcripts, notarized them, and mail them off in sealed envelopes.

 

Why? Because they've been subpoenaed in divorce cases. But I'm having a hard time finding them in the vault. Findly Mrs Jerry whose been there since Noah and the Ark ask to see the list. She tells me to look them up and cross reference them by SSNo #'s.

 

I do, and print out a new list according to such. Some of these women have two, three, four, five last names attached to their SSNo. # that is to say they've all been married two, three, four or five times?

 

They were all nurses ~ RN's. Turns out that while dentist have the highest suicide rate per profession? Nurses have one of the highest divorce rates per profession.

 

Unless you want to be working at Hardees serving up biscuits and gravy every morning living in a twenty year old single wide rental trailer, eating rancid cheese sandwiches for lunch, and driving a 74 Ford Maverick held together with bailing wire and duct tape?

 

You'll take a fool's adivce Marine!

 

"Run Forrest Run!

 

PS ~ I cannot tell you the number of times I've set in my recliner with the following thoughts going through my mind since I've retired from the Corps!

 

"THANK GOD! I did my twenty years + in the Corps!

 

THANK GOD! I'm not married!

 

THANK GOD! I don't have a girlfriend!

 

THANK GOD! I did twenty in the Corps!

 

THANK GOD! I did it and THANK GOD its over with!

 

THANK GOD THANK GOD!THANK GOD! My children are grown on their own and self sufficient

[Gunny376]

Forgot to add, that with only six years in? You need to divorce her so you don't hit the ten year mandate to where she's entitled to half of your military retirement.

 

I'd kiss her @ss and sweet talk her into hanging in there until you get back to North Click (Carolina)

 

Once you get back to North Click? I let her RN @zz go find a job at a hospital, and fall in love with some MD whose wife doesn't understand him.

 

Then I'd drop the bomb on both of them!

 

North Carolina is one of only a handfull of states (actually if not the only one) where you can sue someone for "alienation of affection"

 

Before I retired had a guy that owned a insurance company that "fell in love" with his secertary. He and wife got divorced, ~ she sued for the above and was awarded 2.5 million dollars for "alienation fo affection!

 

Another cool thing about NC is that its against state law to live with someone that's not your lawful wedded spouse. That means there's no such thing as 'common law' marriage.

[Devildog1981]

Thanks Gunny for the advice! Semper Fi. Thanks to everyone who has chimed in. I Really love this site! To answer some questions.

 

-I am currently renting

 

-I am planning on transfering to cherry point, nc in about 8-9 months

 

-I am most certainly doing my 20+ yrs. I would be a fool otherwise:) I see it first hand being out here on the streets how bad it is for civilians. I should be in zone for Gunny this next board.

 

-Going back to FMF

 

-I am 6672, aviation supply.

 

I think I will take ur advice and start looking at attorney. I never really thought about full custody but I do recall meeting many Marines with full custody children. I got on base day care, hospital, less deployments. I think I have more going than her. She has no clue how financially she is going to make it. I have always been the saver/invester. At one point I had close to 100k in savings. I have spent so much money on her getting her out of debt even before we were married. I had to pay 7k on a truck she cosigned for when she was dating a guy b4 we met. I paid 3k to prevent her car from being repo"d b4 we were married. Paid her school loans off, another 10k or so. Just last month I spent 10k to pay off her truck loan and credit card debt she racked up.

 

She plans on living with her mom. Funny thing is her mom drives her nuts! I don't think she is thinking straight at all. I am just focusing on myself though and it feels good. I have stopped talking about the relationship, I'm upbeat, I put my assistant in charge and go home earlier to see kids. I am not going to the pool hall and drinking anymore. Before recruiting duty I did not go out with the guys one time out in the fleet. I never wanted to. Out here on recruiting, I would have a day start at 7am and get done 10pm. Some days I would be so busy I wouldn't eat. I remember one night our boss had us work through the night preparing for an inspection. My old boss was a terrible leader. I remember seeing my kids Sunday and then not seeing them again. My armpits would sweat so bad that I went to a dr to get some drysol....the sweat was ruining my dry cleaning. I have seen Iraq veterans breakdown from stress out here. End up in the hospital from just losing it.

 

Nothing can make u understand the challenges we face out here. I didn't understand fully until 3 months into it or so. These r not excuses. I take full responsibilities for my actions. I know what I needed to do and chose not to. I was being selfish.

 

So go initiate divorce....either it will call her bluff or it will go through eventually. Yeah I have been thinking of doing it in NC. I hate Michigan. She says she just needs time to think now. Says she confused.

 

When I am doing this 180 I feel like I am being too standoffish with her. I won't initiate conversation or talk that much at all to her. I don't call, text, or e-mail. I'm just gonna stick with it. I need to show her I am moving on.

 

I think she will freak once I tell her I will seek full custody.

[Gunny376]

You need to employ the JJDIDTIEABUCKLE ~ the fourteen leadership traits with a heavy emphasis on being decisive and integrity!

 

You definitely need to go for sole custody. You may not get it but I'd be willing to bet next month's retirement check that you will. Judges know about RN's marital track record. Michigan is a "progressive" state which puts the welfare and well being of the children first (aka keeping them off of the welfare roles and off of the public dole)

 

Although I wouldn't do it other than as a last resort, (It will hurt you career wise ~ there are those that say it won't ~ but it will ~ It will be viewed by promotion boards as not finishing something that you've started) if push comes to shove you can do an AA form and request a hardship transfer back to the FMF, but I would advise against it since your a short timer on RD.

 

Your in an most excellent field career wise for life after the Corps. Do your twenty ~ retire. Get a job post Marine Corps with one of the aviation industries (Alabama is covered up up with aviation jobs). Your best bet would be to get a federal civil service job doing the same thing you did in the Corps at MCLSB ~ Albany, GA doing the same thing in the Corps at twice the pay + your military retirement.

 

Had a Bro that did that, wife flaked out and walked on him when he was a buck sergeant, (E-5) and he said to himself, "Bet that's not going to happen again. Moved into the barracks, ate in the chow hall, etc.

 

Retired as a MGySgt after 26 years. Got a job in supply as a civil servant making twice what he was making in the Corps + his military retirement. Doing the same damn thing he was doing in the Corps ~ pushing paper.

 

Bought some land outside of Albany ~ paid cash. Built a house ~ paid cash. Built a half garage ~ half stable ~ paid cash, One Side he had horses, the other side housed (sealed off in the middle) was his ten vintage Harley Davidson motorcycles and his Pontiac vintage 69 "Tha Judge" GTO convertible and Firebird! Along with his four wheelers, bass boat (Sweet! )

 

Meet a little Blondie about ten years younger than he, proposed to her. Took her down to the mail box and looked back on the new house and barn/garage. He told her everything she saw was his, and should they ever divorce? It would still be his because he owned it before they were married. That she was entitled to half of whatever the acquired after they were married.

 

Then he took her back up to the house and showed her two Rottweiler pups he had purchased. He told her that he was going to train them to attack and kill everyone on the place if they ever saw "U Haul Orange"

 

I told him, "Cotton' (What we call him ~ solid gray hair by twenty eight) dogs are color blind!"

 

"Hell!" he told me ~ "She doesn't know that!"

 

Definately go for full custody. The wife sounds like like a flaky broad!

[Butterflair]

I live near Cherry Point now and actually lived there during my High School years. There is a lot of great stuff for kids to do and living near the beach is a bonus. Nothing is better than relaxing at the beach and listening to the waves.

 

I think the problem with filing in NC is that you have to have residency for at least six months and I'm not sure you'll be able to do it quickly and you probably don't want to wait. I've lived here for so long that it wasn't an issue for me. The other thing is that in NC you have to be separated for a year before you can file for divorce. I would prefer to have it done by now. I've been separated for two months now.

 

My suggestion would also be to see the lawyer and find out your options now. Like Gunny said, ask for it all and document everything. Keep your emotional distance from her and don't sleep with her anymore. Women hate being emotionally cut off. Good luck.

[Gunny376]

Forgot to add this http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t95838/?highlight=wolfe

 

Wolfe was a Marine Major who was decisive, took his sitrep and moved forward. Last I heard he and the wife were back together.

 

He was quick to show her he was ready, willling and able to move on without her. And he wasn't just talking 'smack' he was doing it!

 

She came begging back literally crying on his doorsteps in the rain!

[Devildog1981]

Thanks for the inspiring story gunny:) Yeah, I'm up in the air about the whole sole custody. I am going to talk to a lawyer.

 

Yeah, I was stationed in cherry point for about 7 yrs b4 recruiting. Had a great time. Met my wife, kids, fishing, beach.

 

I noticed that since I sent a email to the OM asking him to butt out that he has not text my wife. I think my wife has never been truely happy and thinks all her friends marriages are perfect. Call me a realist.

 

4th day 180, need to have patience and stop analyzing stuff. We don't really communicate at the moment. Guess that's the point.

[Gunny376]

Just re-read your latest post?

 

And WTF are you getting out of this relationship other than perhaps sex? Seems to me that your putting in 10X's more than your getting out of it?

 

Seems to me your bringing way more to the party/table than she is?

 

Seems to me that whatever she is bringing to the party/table you can find just as good as ~ if not better, just as much if not more than she has to offer.

 

 

Where in the Hell did you get it in your brain housing group that THIS was the best and one and only you could do?

 

The fact of the matter is ~is that you've got more to offer most women than most women have to offer you!

[Gunny376]

Your monitor is probably going to send you back to Cherry Point ~ I would almost guarantee it!

 

 

Once you get back into your primary MOS things will get easier ! When you make Gunny things will make it a lt easier! Being a SSgt is a mother trucker! Once you make Gunny no one f**ks with you! Not even battalion nor sqadron commamders!

 

No one plays foolish knowing with Gunnys

[Devildog1981]

Thanks Gunz for all the info! I am reading the Majors story right now. I am going to set up a meeting with an attorney this week. She is probably going to flip blame but o well. She knows I am willing to work on it but it takes both parties.

 

I am so excited about picking up Gunny. After about a yr on the streets they moved me to the SNCOIC of a Recruiting Sub Station. Lol the stress level went up 10x it was no longer a independent duty! I depend on my recruiters to write contracts through me driving production. I need to keep my wits to continue making this station successful. Since I have been here we have not missed shipping or contracting. You know how we Marines do it....never gve up, never back down from a fight.

 

Thank God I am a Marine. It has been the best decision of my life.

[Devildog1981]

Got an appt with Attorney Wed at 1000. Feeling good. Feels like I am in charge of my destiny. Feels like I am moving too fast but I really don't have times to play games if she is unwilling to give the marriage a chance.

 

She took her rings off last sat, kicked me out of the bed (sleep on couch:), she doesn't say I love not that I am saying to her since 180. I saw her saying "I love you" to the OM in a email.

 

In my mind she has made up her mind. I'm not listening to this "I'm confused" BS. I have been dealing with her EA"s throught our mariage.

Edited February 8, 2010 by Devildog1981

[Gunny376]

Brother ~ stay your @zz in the Marines. I just got called in on the carpet on my DAY off because of a clerical error dealing with a .0001 typing error.

 

The reason its such a big deal is because of thousands of dollars in shipping cost, customer dissatisfaction, explanation, specifications etc.

 

I won't know until tomorrow if I still have a job?

 

Thank God I did my twenty in the Corps!

 

Thank God He gave my dumb @zz enough sense to do my Twenty in the Corps!

[Gunny376]

The definition of "If" is that "If Grasshoppers had .45 caliber pistols crows wouldn't f*** with them

 

 

But they don't ~ so the crows have them for breakfast!

 

Once you make Gunny your entire world will change. 2nd Lt and 1st Lt and most Captains will kowtow down to you. Even some LtCol.

 

Why?

 

Because you speak from knowledge and experience

[Devildog1981]

Dang Gunz, getting recalled eh!? What can u do. Yeah I am reenlisting this year actually. 8 more yrs to go. Miss the fleet so much.

[mimidarlin]

I think that you need to see the lawyer and document all of these debts you helped pay off. If they were debts she had before she came into the marriage and you paid them off it could work in your favor during the division of assets.

[Devildog1981]

Update- I am so done with her lies, and deceit. Just found out she went to the movies with OM on sat when she told me she was going with a girlfriend. I am so done. Screw this sh$&. I deserve so much better. I'm exposng to her family, facebook, OMW. I really don't care what is politically correct. Been a week and I have had enough. I don't even have the urge to even try to work on it. People like this are heartless!

 

I'm going to buy a beautiful red 2010 ss camaro!!!!! Yay baby!

[dreamingoftigers]

Good for you, she could at least be honest now instead of playing both ends against the middle and keeping people guessing. Don't think she isn't pulling this **** with the OM. Totally expose.