Gaining weight/ is cardio a waste of time?

[Soul Bear]

This is getting a little off topic. There is no right and no wrong in a single persons opinion.

I think we all have what works for us, and as long as YOU are happy with your body, you feel fit healthy and vibrantly organic, that's all that matters. Whatever you look like, or however much or little bodyfat you have! we are all unique in our own way.

 

 

At the end of the day OP, the only thing tht is really going to get you bigger is FOOD. You gotta eat! Go on a loading period (eat more than you need) for 6 weeks or so. Do only body weight training in this time to help you tone and strengthen your core and get a strong centre and self. Make this a daily routine. After 3 weeks or so it starts to become a habit.

 

EAT EAT EAT.!!!!!

once you start putting on, you can work on using your body as your new canvas/base to start sculpting that new you!

[sunrae]

 

EAT EAT EAT.!!!!!

once you start putting on, you can work on using your body as your new canvas/base to start sculpting that new you!

 

Or just drink, drink, drink... Milkshakes that is..... Yummy!

[EYECANDY000]

Thanks everyone..

 

Everyone is telling me that I need to eat a lot more on top of what I'm use to eating.but since I am going through a break up and its definately taking its toll on me its been heard to eat. And when I do its hard to keep it down. Since I'm not eating as much I have doubled my dose of quick gainer mix. And done more weigh training.

I know ultimately I need to eat, because I am depriving myself of protein and carbs,.. but is the weight gainer ok for now?

[Soul Bear]

Gainer is ok...but you cant live off it. It will help as an 'inbetween meals' thing. What i usually do on loading is take weight gain an hour AFTER i eat my 3 or 4 meals a day. That way you do not ruin your appetite for all the goodness of REAL food. A lot of those calories in gainer are not really accountable, but there are a few stacks that will do a really great job. Idont want to get done for solicitation, so if you are up in arms about what to get, I can give you a few pointers. Just IM me.!

 

Good luck, and Im really sorry to hear you are going through heartbreak. I know it sucks, but you always pull therough

Good for you for ,making steps to better yourself!!!

[bananaboat11]

Eyecandy.... **** the personal trainer. I have a bachelor's & master's in Kinesiology w/ a specialty in PHYSIOLOGY concentration in energy metabolism....

 

AND I'm a certified personal trainer through the National Strength & Conditioning Association. Look 'em up... ONE OF THE BEST OUT THERE.

 

don't believe me?

 

Come to amherst, massachusetts and find me. I'll show you my certs / diplomas.

 

I'll help you online for free.

 

most personal trainers are total tools, douches, idiots, tools... did I say idiots? Don't hire the ****ass.

 

when I get out of work I'll respond to this thread more in depth.

[bananaboat11]

And to soul bear... I said MOST, not ALL.

 

before you flame me.

 

I have yet to look at your program regimen for the OP.

[carhill]

OP, my apologies if I missed this in skimming your thread (lots of great opinion BTW), but have you had a complete and thorough physical and blood workup done prior to beginning your program? If not, I'd recommend it. It's great to baseline your medical health before embarking on any substantial health-related pursuit. I did this back when endurance cycling and got some valuable input from the doctor, who happened to be a triathlete. He was especially helpful in describing in layman's terms how the body makes energy in extreme physical conditions and how to train it to handle that most efficiently. Anyway, good luck with your program

[Jeff1962]

Squat 320 - you mean with 320 lbs? holy cow...is that overhead squat or front squat? how many reps do you do?

 

I do 45 lbs Ha! but that's ok because I don't want to get bulky and I usually finished first in class because everyone else goes with their 70% max for their overhead squats while for me, I just do what's comfortable LOL.

 

Overhead. I do 3 sets of 10. In 2 more weeks I will cut the weight down to around 225 and do 3 sets of 15, 2 days a week for 6 weeks. Other leg exercises as well.

[EYECANDY000]

OP, my apologies if I missed this in skimming your thread (lots of great opinion BTW), but have you had a complete and thorough physical and blood workup done prior to beginning your program? If not, I'd recommend it. It's great to baseline your medical health before embarking on any substantial health-related pursuit. I did this back when endurance cycling and got some valuable input from the doctor, who happened to be a triathlete. He was especially helpful in describing in layman's terms how the body makes energy in extreme physical conditions and how to train it to handle that most efficiently. Anyway, good luck with your program

 

 

No i havent had a complete physical... I actually never even thought about it.. hmmm

[bananaboat11]

hey how are you?

 

So as you know I am tring to put on about 10-25 pounds or so. When I signed up the pricing for a personal trainer is outrageous..

 

I figured as long as I eat, work on doing cardio, focus on arms and abs I will be fine.. what do you think?

 

You have the right idea.

 

What's your diet like?

 

The biggest misconception is that you can spot reduce... ie target a specific body part and automatically assume that the bodyfat in THAT area will be used up as a fuel source and become more tone... in a sense... with resistance training you will tone up the muscle, but the bodyfat may still reside until you find a balance in energy balance.

 

what do I mean?

 

Calories in > Calories out = Weight Gain

Calories out > Calories in = Weight loss

 

BUT... you should be consuming a minimum of 1600kcals (what is your ht. and wt? I can give you a better estimate)... this minimum is your RESTING METABOLIC RATE or the base floor of calories your body needs to sustain min lifestyle in a sedentary state for a 24 hour period... or the rate at which you burn kcals / min also known as REE (Resting Energy Expenditure)... we usually calculate this using a metabolic cart which uses indirect calorimetry (spirometry) taking a measure of expired CO2 / VO2 ratio and calculating how much substrate you're using and providing an REE which gives us your RMR... which we typically multiply by an activity factor of 1.4 (as per the ACSM standard)

 

Cardio, diet, and weight lifting are ALL equally important...

 

If you do weight training with only one or two specific body parts you may risk counter balancing the biomechanisms of the human body... ever notice guys that hunch? They work their chests (guys want buff chests and big arms)... but they don't work their back muscles at all or not sufficiently that the chest muscles (pectoralis muscles) in addition to abdominal muscles pull the delts (shoulders) forward because their is no counter resistance from the lats, delts, rhomboids, traps (in the back) to balance their posture.

 

make sense?

 

EYECANDY.. won't let me PM you back

Edited February 24, 2010 by bananaboat11

[carhill]

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[bananaboat11]

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what's wrong with caliguy?

[EYECANDY000]

You have the right idea.

 

What's your diet like?

 

The biggest misconception is that you can spot reduce... ie target a specific body part and automatically assume that the bodyfat in THAT area will be used up as a fuel source and become more tone... in a sense... with resistance training you will tone up the muscle, but the bodyfat may still reside until you find a balance in energy balance.

 

what do I mean?

 

Calories in > Calories out = Weight Gain

Calories out > Calories in = Weight loss

 

BUT... you should be consuming a minimum of 1600kcals (what is your ht. and wt? I can give you a better estimate)... this minimum is your RESTING METABOLIC RATE or the base floor of calories your body needs to sustain min lifestyle in a sedentary state for a 24 hour period... or the rate at which you burn kcals / min also known as REE (Resting Energy Expenditure)... we usually calculate this using a metabolic cart which uses indirect calorimetry (spirometry) taking a measure of expired CO2 / VO2 ratio and calculating how much substrate you're using and providing an REE which gives us your RMR... which we typically multiply by an activity factor of 1.4 (as per the ACSM standard)

 

Cardio, diet, and weight lifting are ALL equally important...

 

If you do weight training with only one or two specific body parts you may risk counter balancing the biomechanisms of the human body... ever notice guys that hunch? They work their chests (guys want buff chests and big arms)... but they don't work their back muscles at all or not sufficiently that the chest muscles (pectoralis muscles) in addition to abdominal muscles pull the delts (shoulders) forward because their is no counter resistance from the lats, delts, rhomboids, traps (in the back) to balance their posture.

 

make sense?

 

EYECANDY.. won't let me PM you back

 

i think it makes since.. are you saying dont focus on just one part of my bodY?

 

as far as my diet, I am trying to eat more..

Its always been hard for me to eat in the morning, but Ive tried to at least eat oatmeal in the morning.. and Ill drink a serving of my weight gainer which is about 600 calories per serving..

 

then in the afternoon i will eat some fast food..

 

and around 9 or 10 at night I eat something light like soup.. and i finish the night off with a weight gainer drink around midnight..

[carhill]

what's wrong with caliguy?

He had an incident and was injured and is in a medically induced coma. There's a prayer thread running

[torranceshipman]

Firstly, that personal trainer is wrong to behave like that. You should NEVER feel pressured. Also, your bodyfat percent is quite high so you might need to clean up your diet and eat more healthily, and work on increasing your muscle. A great tip is to go to a really reputable health food store and ask their advice - they will tell you whether supplements are a good way to go.

[EYECANDY000]

So I went to GNC today and purchased the Mass XXX

it states that it is 740 calories per scoop and 50 grams of fat

 

my plan to put on the 10 pounds is this:

 

limit my cardio to about 10 minutes 2 - 3 days a week

30 minutes on arms, 30 mins on legs, 30 - 45 minutes on abs

and of course switch up every other day.

 

then my eating intake will be..

 

A bowl of oatmeal in the morning followed by a glass of the mass

In the afternoon yogurt, salad, and some fruit

commuting to work which is around 2 pm chicken breast

 

Evening.. Soup, piece of fruit, and havent decided what else.. and a serving of the mass xxx

 

night time a glass of mass xxx and chicken breast...

 

what do you think?