Chitowngirl Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I've never dated anyone before who married someone for a green card, but I am starting to put the pieces together and I think this guy I'm very interested in married his beautiful ex wife so she could get her green card. All the signs are there--they rushed into marriage after 5 months of LDR (3000 miles away, she lived in Canada, him on the East Coast of US), he bought her her own condo on the other side of town after 2 yrs of marriage, and they've been separated ever since, 2 more yrs after that. She moved across the country to Portland to be closer to her mother who still lives in Vancouver. Have you done this? How would you feel if the man you're dating confesses that his 1st marriage was a sham only to help out the damsel in distress receive her green card? How would you feel if he was too embarassed to admit his 1st marriage was a lie from the beginning? Would you rather he was honest with you? I am getting suspicious! Link to post Share on other sites
allina Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Canadians don't usually marry Americans for US citizenship......... I suppose it's possible but it doesn't add up, at all. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Canadians don't usually marry Americans for US citizenship......... what do u mean? they do it all the time. there are bus-loads of canucks waiting to get into the US Link to post Share on other sites
Blackfrost Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I've never dated anyone before who married someone for a green card, but I am starting to put the pieces together and I think this guy I'm very interested in married his beautiful ex wife so she could get her green card. All the signs are there--they rushed into marriage after 5 months of LDR (3000 miles away, she lived in Canada, him on the East Coast of US), he bought her her own condo on the other side of town after 2 yrs of marriage, and they've been separated ever since, 2 more yrs after that. She moved across the country to Portland to be closer to her mother who still lives in Vancouver. Have you done this? How would you feel if the man you're dating confesses that his 1st marriage was a sham only to help out the damsel in distress receive her green card? How would you feel if he was too embarassed to admit his 1st marriage was a lie from the beginning? Would you rather he was honest with you? I am getting suspicious! When I lived in Los Angeles for many years, there were (and i'm sure, still are) underground groups of gays and lesbians, who would reach out to European and Australian gays and lesbians to set up "marriages" in order to get green cards to other countries. They would remain married on paper for 2 years, then file for divorce. I stopped wanting to know more about it, when I found out that there were people willing pay large sums of money in order to get green cards for certain countries (especially USA). Link to post Share on other sites
Ronni_W Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 they rushed into marriage after 5 months of LDR ... he bought her her own condo on the other side of town after 2 yrs of marriage, and they've been separated ever since Those "pieces" don't necessarily add up to a 'marriage of convenience'. It's as possible that they just were "so in love" that they didn't want to be apart and marriage was the only way to remedy that. Which could also be (or most likely is?) why it only lasted 2 years...they rushed into it without knowing if they were long-term compatible. But out of love, not for a green card. I know people who have gotten married to facilitate citizenship, so it wouldn't bother me if a guy I was very interested in had done it. I'd be more concerned if I found myself adding up pieces that don't really fit together and trying to turn his first marriage into one of mere convenience, to be honest Link to post Share on other sites
Author Chitowngirl Posted February 22, 2010 Author Share Posted February 22, 2010 I would rather him admit that he married someone just for a greencard, instead of him being flighty and hot and cold with love so quickly. Exactly!! Agreed... Link to post Share on other sites
Author Chitowngirl Posted February 22, 2010 Author Share Posted February 22, 2010 Those "pieces" don't necessarily add up to a 'marriage of convenience'. It's as possible that they just were "so in love" that they didn't want to be apart and marriage was the only way to remedy that. Which could also be (or most likely is?) why it only lasted 2 years...they rushed into it without knowing if they were long-term compatible. But out of love, not for a green card. I know people who have gotten married to facilitate citizenship, so it wouldn't bother me if a guy I was very interested in had done it. I True. He said they did get married at 5 months b/c otherwise she had to leave the country. Link to post Share on other sites
aerogurl87 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Well I don't know anyone whose ever dated someone just to get citizenship. But why would a Canadian want to give up living in a safe country with free health care to come to the States? That doesn't add up to me... Link to post Share on other sites
threebyfate Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Canadians don't usually marry Americans for US citizenship......... I suppose it's possible but it doesn't add up, at all.No, most of us aren't interested in moving to the U.S. We have a much cleaner country, with socialized healthcare, less crowding and an equal standard of living. But... There are some immigrants who get citizenship in Canada, as a way into the U.S. If so, this person will not have been a Canadian Citizen for long. Link to post Share on other sites
Mino Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I've never dated anyone before who married someone for a green card, but I am starting to put the pieces together and I think this guy I'm very interested in married his beautiful ex wife so she could get her green card. All the signs are there--they rushed into marriage after 5 months of LDR (3000 miles away, she lived in Canada, him on the East Coast of US), he bought her her own condo on the other side of town after 2 yrs of marriage, and they've been separated ever since, 2 more yrs after that. She moved across the country to Portland to be closer to her mother who still lives in Vancouver. Have you done this? How would you feel if the man you're dating confesses that his 1st marriage was a sham only to help out the damsel in distress receive her green card? How would you feel if he was too embarassed to admit his 1st marriage was a lie from the beginning? Would you rather he was honest with you? I am getting suspicious!Hi, this cannot be right. He married her so she can get a green card and then he bought her a condo? LOL cant be true, unless he really is stupid. Now if he married her so she can get a green card and she payed him in form of a condo, thats would make a lot more sense. I know people who have married under these circumstances, and the person from the outside the US payed $$ to the us citizen, Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 But why would a Canadian want to give up living in a safe country with free health care to come to the States? That doesn't add up to me... because good jobs are harder to find in canada and the pay in the US is much higher. a physician in canada make half what they would in the US Link to post Share on other sites
aerogurl87 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 because good jobs are harder to find in canada and the pay in the US is much higher. a physician in canada make half what they would in the US Hmm, good points, but eh I'd still stick to Canada if I were a Canadian. America is in dire straits right now financially and any job is hard to find here nowadays (at least where I live).... speaking of Canada I'll be going there in 3 months. Link to post Share on other sites
blue.iris Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Well, a Canadian physician could easily get a job in the US and a professional T visa (I think it's T, but it could be called something else) very quickly. They wouldn't need a green card. Same with other professionals. Lots of us canucks choose to remain in Canada because even though it's cold, we prefer the lifestyle here. A non-professional Canadian would be much better off here because we have good government benefits and excellent health care for everyone. Link to post Share on other sites
Rollercoasterr Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 I'm a US citizen and my fiance is a Canadian citizen, so here goes. Canadians do not usually marry an American for a green card. I'm going to agree with TBF, and say that the grass is probably greener in Canada. There's nothing down here that they don't have up there, plus a better system and cleaner environment. That being said, you must go through immigration before you can get married. Mathew and I have been going through it for the past 6 months and it's stressful, exhausting, AND EXPENSIVE. A Canadian can pretty much come and go as they please as long as they don't overstay their visit ,so wheres the benefit of a scam marriage? It's actually easier to get a work visa or student visa than it is to get a marriage visa. If it were a country like the Philippines, or Iran I could see the marrying for a green card thing. I belong to another forum that is for family visas and immigration fraud happens usually in those areas. But if I'm being honest, I haven't seen one case on there of a Canadian doing it. I'm sure it could happen, and probably has, but it's so rare. Divorces happen. Just because you get a divorce after moving to the states doesn't mean that you did it just for the green card. It just means things didn't work out. Oh, and you don't become a US Citizen until you've been in the US for 3 years as a Permanent Resident. You don't automatically become a USC upon entry, or upon marriage. Link to post Share on other sites
Rollercoasterr Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 True. He said they did get married at 5 months b/c otherwise she had to leave the country. Technically, she should still have had to leave the country. Even if you file for a CR-1/IR-1(already married, filing to bring non USC to the US), you still have to go back home for interview. A Canadian can stay in the US up to 180 days. After that point they MUST go back home until the process is finished, or they'll risk the chance of a ban. So I wouldn't be too hasty at believing that part of his story. Link to post Share on other sites
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