cuppa Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I love it, anyone else is doing it here? If so, how long have you done it? I only started last week (I also do crossfit & kickboxing) but I think I like it a bit more than my kickboxing. It's very practical, I really love that I defend by doing offense. Today, I was sparring with a solid 200 lbs guy (muscled & fast), landed a few solid blows (though he could barely feel it), and after 5 mins, my god, my heart rate started going up like crazy. He pushed me quite hard and I was so exhilarated that I could keep up with him while learning on how to handle someone that big (well big to me because I'm only 5'2 - 120 lbs lol). I feel very pumped after I finished the class. I feel that Krav or boxing - kickboxing are the best exercises, it has everything, strength, resistance, and heavy cardio (my shirt was completely soaked after each class and I think I can easily burn 800 calories in this one hour). I don't think I can ever go back to treadmill after doing all these. Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I love it, anyone else is doing it here? If so, how long have you done it? . Yes for about 10 yrs Link to post Share on other sites
Author cuppa Posted February 22, 2010 Author Share Posted February 22, 2010 Yes for about 10 yrs Are you a black belt? Any transformation? How hard do you train? Do you compete? Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 (edited) Are you a black belt? Any transformation? How hard do you train? Do you compete? Black belt yes, (although the school I go to is strictly self-defense oriented, really no belt system), transformation? yes completely. No I have never competed. There are really two schools of KM. Recreational, and self defense. Straight up self defense KM is too brutal for competition. KM for self defense includes poking eyes, taking out knees, trying to break arms/legs etc. Edited February 22, 2010 by skydiveaddict Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 (edited) KM was started by Imrich Sde-Or, of the IDF for soldiers to disable ,and hopefully kill their enemies in h to h combat. In it's original form, KM is anything but a "sport", this is the type of KM I have been trained in Edited February 22, 2010 by skydiveaddict Link to post Share on other sites
Author cuppa Posted February 22, 2010 Author Share Posted February 22, 2010 Black belt yes, (although the school I go to is strictly self-defense oriented, really no belt system), transformation? yes completely. No I have never competed. There are really two schools of KM. Recreational, and self defense. Straight up self defense KM is too brutal for competition. KM for self defense includes poking eyes, taking out knees, trying to break arms/legs etc. yes, I could totally see the difference, compare to kickboxing or tae kwon do. Krav is definitely practical and aims to get the opponent fast and deadly. I think mine is self defense, instead of recreational, because these guys are quite hardcore (they are the self defense academy, quite famous for their jiu jit su). Though I don't plan to go far, only a few practical moves especially defending myself on the ground (which is what likely to happen to me in the real life situation). Here is my academy. http://www.oneworldsdf.com/ Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 (edited) Though I don't plan to go far, only a few practical moves especially defending myself on the ground (which is what likely to happen to me in the real life situation). Looks like a good school. But I would encourage you to go as far as you can The whole idea is for YOU to be looking down @ your attacker. His manhood in your hands, and HIM begging for mercy Edited February 22, 2010 by skydiveaddict Link to post Share on other sites
Author cuppa Posted February 23, 2010 Author Share Posted February 23, 2010 Looks like a good school. But I would encourage you to go as far as you can The whole idea is for YOU to be looking down @ your attacker. His manhood in your hands, and HIM begging for mercy LOL Awesome. Just pray that if I ever were in that situation, my opponent doesn't know squat about Krav Maga. Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 (edited) LOL Awesome. Just pray that if I ever were in that situation, my opponent doesn't know squat about Krav Maga. He wont. People like that pursue nothing but evil. Besides, remember the golden rule of KM: , "do unto others before they can do it to you" Edited February 23, 2010 by skydiveaddict Link to post Share on other sites
Author cuppa Posted February 23, 2010 Author Share Posted February 23, 2010 He wont. People like that pursue nothing but evil. Besides, remember the golden rule of KM: , "do unto others before they can do it to you" Thanks. Your post makes me want to pursue this further. I am thinking to reduce my kickboxing and switch to KM. How often do you train KM (in the beginning as well as now)? Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 (edited) Thanks. Your post makes me want to pursue this further. I am thinking to reduce my kickboxing and switch to KM. How often do you train KM (in the beginning as well as now)? In the begining, I trained hard five days a week. Now, with my job I'm on the road alot, so it's dependent on that. The good thing about KM is the learning curve. If you train hard and often, you will be very good at it within two years, I mean really good at it. KM was designed to be learned quickly, because like I said before, the intent was to quickly train soldiers in H to H fighting. And really, within just a couple of months,if you train hard, you will have a few tricks up your sleeve that can be used in a real confrantation. Edited February 23, 2010 by skydiveaddict Link to post Share on other sites
Author cuppa Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 In the begining, I trained hard five days a week. Now, with my job I'm on the road alot, so it's dependent on that. The good thing about KM is the learning curve. If you train hard and often, you will be very good at it within two years, I mean really good at it. KM was designed to be learned quickly, because like I said before, the intent was to quickly train soldiers in H to H fighting. And really, within just a couple of months,if you train hard, you will have a few tricks up your sleeve that can be used in a real confrantation. Yes, I can see that. I just came back from Krav Maga class again tonight, we did a lot of sparring today, totally different than my Kickboxing. we were doing low kick defense (and those kicks that go straight to the groin), so I defended with my thigh or my shin. We did round robin, some guys were too gentle with me, some guys went with their normal speed. I am the only woman in the class (not sure a good thing or bad thing). Even then, when I went home, my thigh were black & blue so I have to ice it. I learned a few techniques but still, those guys move too fast for me so during sparring, I got all over the map. Still....like you said, at least I can aim for yellow belt and learn a few tricks to defend myself. I decided to do 3 times a week and I want to train hard for at least 6 months . Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 (edited) Yes, I can see that. I just came back from Krav Maga class again tonight, we did a lot of sparring today, totally different than my Kickboxing. we were doing low kick defense (and those kicks that go straight to the groin), so I defended with my thigh or my shin. We did round robin, some guys were too gentle with me, some guys went with their normal speed. I am the only woman in the class (not sure a good thing or bad thing). Even then, when I went home, my thigh were black & blue so I have to ice it. I learned a few techniques but still, those guys move too fast for me so during sparring, I got all over the map. Still....like you said, at least I can aim for yellow belt and learn a few tricks to defend myself. I decided to do 3 times a week and I want to train hard for at least 6 months . I still say go as far as you can. forget the belts. Soon you wiil be fast too. You don't just want a few tricks, you want all of them. Black and blue is normal for KM and you will get used to it but if you're really sore, take a couple of days to heal up. Girls bruise easier than guys, not fair I know, but it's just a fact.. But it sounds like you're having fun w/ it. Keep going! Edited February 24, 2010 by skydiveaddict Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Even then, when I went home, my thigh were black & blue so I have to ice it. I learned a few techniques but still, those guys move too fast for me so during sparring, I got all over the map. . I know how ya feel. Just got back from KM. We sparred the whole hour This one dude was really good and he wailed on me for ten straight minutes. I am one big bruise. Link to post Share on other sites
Author cuppa Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 I know how ya feel. Just got back from KM. We sparred the whole hour This one dude was really good and he wailed on me for ten straight minutes. I am one big bruise. Well, my bruise was not even from some fierce sparring . Basically, the instructor wants to demonstrate how hard the kick can be without the shin protector. Honestly, he just kind of tapped his feet to my thigh a couple of times but when he did that, I could feel that his bone or whatever that is was so hard, it felt like a rock jammed to my thigh. So yep, I bruised just from that, pathetic, isn't it? Last Friday, I took a Krav Fit class (they call this a combination of KM & conditioning - sort of like crossfit). So, that was a really tough class. So at the end, I told my instructor that maybe I should take jiu jit su too (the next mat was brazilian jiu jit su class) because I was more likely on the ground when I had to defend myself. The instructor pretty much told me that I don't need jiu jit su, I basically need to poke the eyes, bite as hard as possible, and then evaded. Also taught me on how to hold my car key when walking to my car so it will be more fatal than my fist if I need to defend and struck someone. it's quite a common sense stuff but I never thought about it. So now, every time I walk to my car (esp in an empty parking lot), I sort of know what to do. He also said he will teach us on how to get back on the ground asap if that happened. I honestly can't wait for my next KM class. My KM class is tonight and Sunday night is usually sparring night. I was told to bring my mouthpiece (I don't have one yet), I guess I better bring it just in case some guys get carried away and accidentally get my pretty teeth knocked out Link to post Share on other sites
Author cuppa Posted March 8, 2010 Author Share Posted March 8, 2010 I know how ya feel. Just got back from KM. We sparred the whole hour This one dude was really good and he wailed on me for ten straight minutes. I am one big bruise. Hi Skydive, do you use MMA gloves during your sparring? if so, do you have recommendation which gloves are good? I've been using my Kickboxing gloves (which is a bit thin on the knuckles - my knuckles are slightly swollen and bruised so I think I need to invest in good gloves). Link to post Share on other sites
Author cuppa Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 So skydive, continuing from the weight loss thread. I went to KM 3 times a week now. So I learned a few green belt moves (like rolling when i get pushed instead of falling flat in my face so I can either run/attack, also defending knife/stick attack). In fact, I think I pulled some of my back muscles when I tried to roll backward (was told to roll around the mat forward & backward for 200 M each). Last Sunday, I did a drill for mental toughness. So part of it, I was holding planks while they kick on my stomach for like 2 mins, and then I have to stand in the corner while some people beat me up and I can only protect my face (thankfully, I do crossfit so by now, my plank is quite solid and my abs quite stronger now - we also do drills where we have to kick each other in the stomach). Not sure about the purpose but it seems that the instructor want us to get used to be in the defense position and have someone much bigger beating me up. Of course by now, I get better with defending kicks with my thigh (better reflex). So my friend (who didn't train in KM but trained on others) taught me on how to defend if I were grabbed from behind. Show the moves to my KM instructor and he said I got it all wrong. So next Sunday, I think we will go through the drill on how to defend/counterattack from behind. All in all, it's quite exciting. I love it. I got bruises but it's almost like a bragging point at the moment or nice dinner conversation (I would show it to my girlfriends and they would go "oh ahh, you are crazy blah blah and I would laugh at/with them" ). Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Hi Skydive, do you use MMA gloves during your sparring? if so, do you have recommendation which gloves are good? I've been using my Kickboxing gloves (which is a bit thin on the knuckles - my knuckles are slightly swollen and bruised so I think I need to invest in good gloves). I like kickboxing gloves Rmember, krav will always make you sore. Go as real life as possible Link to post Share on other sites
lovefitness Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 I would love to train but that style is not taught in my area. Link to post Share on other sites
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