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I asked for a meeting with the 4 of us right after d-day. I wanted to see if I would get the truth(didn't figure I would so I had filed a few weeks before d-day)needless to say Mr. Messy nor the OW wanted to met with the us. I did take an opportunity later to met with her, no I didn't get the truth but I didn't expect to either. I just wanted her to face look me in the face and lie.

 

I finally came to the conclusion that I won't ever know the truth and the reason is the 2 of them have lied to themselves so much, they don't know the truth. They believe their own lies. You can't provide the truth if you can't even be truthful with yourself.

 

One would hope that at some point in they will seek whatever help they need to heal, but I wouldn't count on it. I know Mr. Messy believes that he is the exception to every rule and that the world is the one wrong not him. I suspect ow is the same way.

 

This is true for me, too. It wasn't that I lied blatantly to myself during the A but almost as if I lied by ommission through choosing not to face the realities that were inconvenient to the A. As a result a lot of the details are already hazy to me; I have many memories of the wonderful moments but the specifics of things I can't remember. When I spoke to xMM's wife on the phone she asked me questions about times, frequencies and dates and when I told her I didn't remember she scoffed at me, but that was the truth. Don't get me wrong, I completely understand why she would have reason to doubt me, but I wasn't being evasive for malicious reasons, which is how she interpreted it, I think.

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