Author coldheart Posted January 9, 2004 Author Share Posted January 9, 2004 Originally posted by dyermaker Oh, get over it, we like you. I am over it. As long as I have my porn, to hell with normal adult relationships. Link to post Share on other sites
dyermaker Posted January 9, 2004 Share Posted January 9, 2004 Thanks, you're helping our case. Link to post Share on other sites
moimeme Posted January 9, 2004 Share Posted January 9, 2004 that people hate what I have to say LS is a great place to air out your ideas. You will find folks who agree with you, others who don't, and always interesting opinions - some which can contribute to strengthening or changing your own. Don't take it personally if everybody doesn't agree with you. It makes life so much more interesting that there is such a variety of opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
Author coldheart Posted January 9, 2004 Author Share Posted January 9, 2004 Oh, I get it. It's like my porn collection. It's better because I have S&M, fetish, and well, the midget material. I feel a lot better now, thanks Link to post Share on other sites
clayboysmom Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Well I am new here but am going to voice my opinion (opinions are like a**holes, everybody has one and some of them stink.) on the topic of porn. I could take it or leave it:rolleyes: These are grown women who have the ability to choose for themselves what they want to do too, or with their bodies. I also look at porn alone and with my husband, and what I DO have a problem with is, when I look at mine I am totally alone or with hubby no children anywhere around. Now husband on the other hand tries to make sure that he will not get caught looking., but when I walk into the bedroom and he is JACK*** Off with my son sound asleep in the same room, or when I wake up early and catch him JOff. When there is a perfectly willing wife not 10 feet from him to help with the morning wood. It just plain pisses me off. So no it is not a perfectly natural thing to look at when you get caught wanking, and are trying to hide it. If it were natural why try to hide it Link to post Share on other sites
dyermaker Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Originally posted by clayboysmom it is not a perfectly natural thing to look at when you get caught wanking, and are trying to hide it. If it were natural why try to hide it Because it's damn embarrasing, if you had a penis, you'd know. Defecating is perfectly natural, I still shut the door when I crap. Link to post Share on other sites
clayboysmom Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Originally posted by dyermaker Because it's damn embarrasing, if you had a penis, you'd know. Defecating is perfectly natural, I still shut the door when I crap. Thank you for closing the door And no I don't have a Penis But I am a healthy sexually active wife I could do it for him but he still tries to hide it. And I do find it totally offensive when you try to hide something like that. Link to post Share on other sites
dyermaker Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Nothing I can say can change your mind, I'm sure of that. Link to post Share on other sites
PUflight Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 I'll tell you exactly why men look at porn, it has to do with their partners not taking care of them sexually. I do it, my gf doesn't like it. We have sex once every two weeks, I don't feel my needs are being met. Or I love it when she says were going to have sex, but later on says she doesn't feel like it. So what do I turn to porn. Theis is coming from a 24 year old male who is in the sexual prime of my life. It's an easy problem to resolve especially from my perspective. Link to post Share on other sites
steffany Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Men do not look at porn because they are not being pleased sexually! What the heck are you talkin about? I know I'm a woman but come on. What you just said is that most men in this world are not being pleased and neither are a lot of women! I watch porn my bf watches porn. We also have sex twice a day at least. We try everything we can think of and then go back over them from time to time so we don't get in a rut. Porn is not because you are not being pleased! Link to post Share on other sites
dyermaker Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 Steffany's right. Porn and sex are two different things. Link to post Share on other sites
Samson Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 Because it's damn embarrasing, if you had a penis, you'd know. Defecating is perfectly natural, I still shut the door when I crap. Thanks for another mental picture I'll cherish from LS!!! So much for "fertile-man, creator of life!" Now that the difference between ejaculation and defication has been nullified, I'm not sure I really want to keep my penis Link to post Share on other sites
PUflight Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 Well porn for me is because I'm not sexually satisfied. Maybe my gf has some work to do or something. I keep her happy, but yet she gets mad about the porn issue. Yet when you have sex every two weeks I have a problem. So that's my perspective. Link to post Share on other sites
dyermaker Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 Originally posted by PUflight Well porn for me is because I'm not sexually satisfied. Maybe my gf has some work to do or something. I keep her happy, but yet she gets mad about the porn issue. Yet when you have sex every two weeks I have a problem. So that's my perspective. Using pornography to "get back" at her for not having sex with you enough isn't healthy. If you can't seperate pleasure from intimacy, I don't blame her for getting upset. :\ Link to post Share on other sites
sinnyveum Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Actually I once heard about a study that rated men's satisfaction and happiness with their wives as it relates to looking at porn. Men who took the survey before looking at porn reported higher happiness and satisfaction with their wives then did those who took the survey after looking at porn. Also, some of the naked girls you jack off to are coerced, humiliated, and used by the internet porn industry. There are some shifty-ass slimeballs out there making a buck every time you jizz to a pixel doll. I think that anyone who intends to be an actualized, wise human being has to consider their usage of porn and be sensitive to issues people have with it and the role it plays in their sexuality. Link to post Share on other sites
dyermaker Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Originally posted by sinnyveum Also, some of the naked girls you jack off to are coerced, humiliated, and used by the internet porn industry. There are some shifty-ass slimeballs out there making a buck every time you jizz to a pixel doll. If you are referring to the trend of "reality" porn sites, I was watching a show on this--and it's not as you would think. The girls you see in the reality porn sites are just as paid for and willing as any other porn star, they just are paid to act as if they weren't. Do you ever wonder how random girls on the street readily jump onto the bangbus, despite the crude and unattractive dialogue that serves as their pitch? Bottom line is, porn is an industry, a hugely successful one. As with all industries, there is some dishonesty in the minority, but for the most part, porn actresses are willing and handsomely paid. Link to post Share on other sites
nicolez66 Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 Originally posted by AprilFool If my husband felt insecure about me talking to a certain man, I would stop. I feel insecure about him looking at any naked woman besides me, so why shouldn't I be able to ask him to stop? I admit I'm selfish. I want nudity to be something special between me and my husband: I want him to be the only person I see naked, and I want to be the only person he sees naked. I asked for this, but he didn't give it to me. I'm not happy about it, but I'm trying to live with it. I'M TRYING! Some of you men can be so selfish. In my opinion, if you love someone, why do something that you enjoy that makes them feel badly? If you love someone, shouldn't you at least make an effort to not do things you know hurts them? I know my husband loves me, but the fact that he doesn't care that he's hurting me hurts me more than looking at porn ever could. Now, tell me what's wrong with this? Tell me why I'm obsessive because I want sex to be something special in my relationship, but my husband couldn't care less, therefore I'm disappointed, and my husband couldn't care less, therefore my feelings are hurt, therefore I cry to you guys, because my husband won't listen to me cry, because he thinks I'm a nagging obsessive b!tch? A QUOTE that makes sense..... Great LOVE MAKING is not about how long you last or how many times you can be pleasured in one night, It's about a DEEPER CONNECTION between two lovers that leaves no DESIRE UNFULFILLED, It's about being SELFLESS and SELFISH at the same time, It's using TIME and PATIENCE to show your SPECIAL SOMEONE how DESIRED and SEDUCTIVE you consider them....... Hope this will help and make a difference! Link to post Share on other sites
moimeme Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 It's about a DEEPER CONNECTION between two lovers that leaves no DESIRE UNFULFILLED, It's about being SELFLESS and SELFISH at the same time, It's using TIME and PATIENCE to show your SPECIAL SOMEONE how DESIRED and SEDUCTIVE you consider them....... And it goes BOTH ways. It isn't the responsibility of only one of the partners. Link to post Share on other sites
End of my rope Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 I know this is an old thread...but I had to throw this out there... Originally posted by coldheart If you have a man that works, pays the bills, keeps food on the table, and keeps you from harm, be happy. Originally posted by Dryermaker You're that guy who goes to the bar, and doesn't drink, he just looks for drunk people to fight with, aren't you? I LMAO at that one! Link to post Share on other sites
faux Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 Many times porn is not the problem. It isn't the woman's fault, however. Most times the situation seems to be that the woman will discover that the man is viewing pornography, or perhaps masturbating to it. Either way porn is involved. The man does not do it to an excess, and he has a right to do it a few times a week as any adult does. It is a personal private act no one has a right to interfere in. However, the woman will become insecure. She won't like the idea that he's doing it because she like the idea of being in control; She likes the idea that the man desires no one but her in any way, even in fantasy. Moreover she doesn't like feeling insecure and attempts to control it. She'll accuse him of having a "problem". It is far easier to blame the man than to accept that there are deeper issues causing the insecurity. Again, it isn't either person's fault, but the one who is suffering from the problems is usually the woman. The catalyst doesn't have to be porn either, but it's one of the more popular ones. The thing to remember, however, is that some men do in fact suffer from an addiction to pornography. These genuine cases appear to be rare however, and more often than not the problems are unrelated to porn. It's up to a licensed professional to determine an addiction of this type. I notice strong correlations between blaming a man for being wrong when he is caught watching porn, and accusing a woman of being wrong when she is socializing with male friends or flirting. Link to post Share on other sites
faux Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 Originally posted by steffany Men do not look at porn because they are not being pleased sexually! What the heck are you talkin about? I know I'm a woman but come on. What you just said is that most men in this world are not being pleased and neither are a lot of women! I watch porn my bf watches porn. We also have sex twice a day at least. We try everything we can think of and then go back over them from time to time so we don't get in a rut. Porn is not because you are not being pleased! I wanted to take the time to respond to this as well... I have never looked at porn because I was not satisfied. If I looked at porn when I was dating someone I did it once in a while because to me it's part of my private life, and looking at visual depictions of lovemaking turns me on more and makes it more pleasurable when I'm alone masturbating. Men are a more visual creature. I'll get started with the imagery, and then expand on it in my mind. I've had some girlfriends who liked looking at porn sometimes as well. I've even made some films with people before. Strangely enough though, even if the girl liked porn herself and I made a movie or took photos with her, she got upset when I didn't exclusively view HER material. For me though I am unsure as to why I wanted to look at other images. I have never, ever gotten sexually excited from looking at anyone, ever, no matter how beautiful. I would always become excited when things actually started to happen, especially when I was being kissed. Similarly, looking at nude photographs does almost nothing for me, unless they are artistic in which case I can appreciate the beauty. Looking at movies of couples engaged in sex does, however, excite me sexually. Sometimes watching depictions of myself and another excited me, and sometimes it didn't. When I was alone and in the mood to, well, do things I would view whatever was going to be stimulating to me to enhance the experience. Link to post Share on other sites
End of my rope Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 For me personally, from a woman's point of view...you just gave the best explanation I've heard as to WHY men watch porn. Link to post Share on other sites
InmannRoshi Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 Men watch porn for the same reason women watch romantic movies or read cheap romance novels. Its fantasy. So I guess every woman on this board complaining about porn doesn't watch romantic movies or read romance novels. If you do, you're cheating on your husband. As far as I'm concerned, watching mindnumbing drivel like "You Got Mail" is without any artistic merit, and Meg Ryan and Tom Hanks "degraded" themselves making such shallow, cotton-candy fluff for a paycheck. The same could be said for 99% of the formulaic "date movies" and "chick flicks." But that's my tastes. I have mine. You have yours. I'm not going to tell you what you should and shouldn't watch. I have the same problem with people who want "ban porn" as I have with Christian Right Wingers who want to burn books. I don't have to love Mark Twain to find fault in it. Its not your place to decide what grownups should read, watch or listen to. A movement of unsatisfied housewives blaming alchohol for their marrital woes was was how Prohibition came into place. We certainly saw how well that worked in controlling drinking. Link to post Share on other sites
End of my rope Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 A movement of unsatisfied housewives blaming alchohol for their marrital woes was was how Prohibition came into place. And do you deny that there aren't alcoholics? Blaming unsatisfied housewives is an easy way to place blame. What about the men who truley have problem with alcohol and porn? Do they not deserve to catch some greif over the fact that they leave their wives un-satisfied? That they have shrugged off responsibilites to their s/o and children in the name of the drink, the porn or the gambling? And for the record, I do not read "romance novels". I think they're junk. They're just soft porn in literarry form. And you can hardly compare "You've Got Mail" to a porn! A movie about two people falling in love is hardly the same thing as a two hour tape with people having mindless sex for money. Link to post Share on other sites
Sundaymorning Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 Porn is: funny when not taken seriously (come on, it is so comedic) hurtful when taken seriously (when the guy watches it without laughing, or the girl " ") Link to post Share on other sites
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