silic0ntoad Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Oh please. Websites have nothing to do with it. Unscrupulous people and your, unfortunately, poor choices in partners are the cause of the problems. I promise you over 50% of these "cheating" ads you see are lonely, creepy people whose only form of self-expression or interaction is a keyboard in a cold, cark room. Take responsibility for your life and stop blaming websites. This argument is seriously getting older then Nebuchadnezzar. Honestly. Get off the self righteous hippie bullsh*t thought train. I never picked a cheater. May partners were expert con artists. I believed them when they said they were healthy emotionally, etc. And, ALL 3 of my serious LTR ended with my SO leaving for someone else or cheating. I understand that picking a crack whore or an alcoholic to date is bad juju, but when I date within my income bracket, fun loving, outgoing people, and I get cheated on, don't f*cking point your talons at me and tell me I am wrong. **** that. Link to post Share on other sites
silic0ntoad Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Oh, and websites have EVERYTHING to do with it. All three of my LTR partners found an easy route to cheat via facebook, an avenue, that, if it wasn't there, would have forced other options, which may have allowed me to glean the truth of their betrayal earlier. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 This argument is seriously getting older then Nebuchadnezzar. Honestly. Get off the self righteous hippie bullsh*t thought train. I never picked a cheater. May partners were expert con artists. I believed them when they said they were healthy emotionally, etc. And, ALL 3 of my serious LTR ended with my SO leaving for someone else or cheating. I understand that picking a crack whore or an alcoholic to date is bad juju, but when I date within my income bracket, fun loving, outgoing people, and I get cheated on, don't f*cking point your talons at me and tell me I am wrong. Sorry, but that is not a "bullsh** hippie thought train." It's the truth. Ever heard this? "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." I do have sympathy for your pain, but yes, YOU CHOSE these people for long term relationships. Even if they don't have a blatant gigantic issue such as being a crack ho, they certainly are who they are ... and you picked them. If you don't want to look at yourself and why you repeat this pattern, go for it. But don't be rude to honest people here. If you don't want to hear it, why post about it? Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Certainly Internet sites make it much easier for people to cheat, but they don't have any effect on a person's basic character. Link to post Share on other sites
donnamaybe Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Certainly Internet sites make it much easier for people to cheat, but they don't have any effect on a person's basic character. I know! As if cheating started upon the advent of the internet. Link to post Share on other sites
silic0ntoad Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Sorry, but that is not a "bullsh** hippie thought train." It's the truth. Ever heard this? "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." I do have sympathy for your pain, but yes, YOU CHOSE these people for long term relationships. Even if they don't have a blatant gigantic issue such as being a crack ho, they certainly are who they are ... and you picked them. If you don't want to look at yourself and why you repeat this pattern, go for it. But don't be rude to honest people here. If you don't want to hear it, why post about it? It is blatant new age hippie bullsh*t. Am I supposed to read minds? Cut me a break. I've taken fault for my issues in the relationships I had- but cheating isn't a proper coping mechanism, and to say that my "people picker" (Theoretical at besT) is screwed up is simply twisted logic. "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me" only applies in singular terms. All three girls were different, from different backgrounds, and different social standings. I could go into details, but you'll ignore that and continue to point the finger at me. After these women cheated on me, I never went back to them, or took them back, I moved on. So no, it was only fool me once, applied three times. None of them were taken back or given a second chance. So please, spare the argument, it is given no creedence here. Link to post Share on other sites
Krytie TV Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 I never picked a cheater. May partners were expert con artists. I believed them when they said they were healthy emotionally, etc. As if jumping to defend my statement. Notice in your statement that again, you feel you have absolutely no impact on your life. As much as no one can be blamed for being cheated on, we must all take responsibility for our choices. Responsibility. Google it. Link to post Share on other sites
silic0ntoad Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 (edited) As if jumping to defend my statement. Notice in your statement that again, you feel you have absolutely no impact on your life. As much as no one can be blamed for being cheated on, we must all take responsibility for our choices. Responsibility. Google it. Don't patronize me. I just said ABOVE I had taken account for my actions. But I didn't choose cheaters, liars and whores. I chose people they portrayed to me that were indeed fictional. Now, Houdini, go on and tell me, again, that I am wrong, and I should read minds. I call bullsh*t. Bullsh*t. Google it. You also don't lend any creedence to the fact that maybe, just maybe, some people maliciously act in self destructive patterns without letting it off to their SO. So don't dump this sh*t on me. I never cheated, and I didn't opt to date a cheater. I dated a person who changed, and as well all know, it usually happens to subtelty that you don't know what hit you til it's over. My mistake? Listening to, arguing with, and debating this new age hippie conformist bullsh*t theory. Edited March 10, 2010 by silic0ntoad Link to post Share on other sites
Krytie TV Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 You still deflect. It's the easy answer, but an unproductive one. Link to post Share on other sites
threebyfate Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Certainly Internet sites make it much easier for people to cheat, but they don't have any effect on a person's basic character.Our character is what we do, when we think no one is looking. ~ H. Jackson Brown Jr. Link to post Share on other sites
silic0ntoad Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 You still deflect. It's the easy answer, but an unproductive one. You haven't countered any ov my very valid points. And I am deflecting? You clearly can't offer any valid stance on that ridiculous theory. You have to accept that sometimes, sh*t just does happen. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 You haven't countered any ov my very valid points. And I am deflecting? You clearly can't offer any valid stance on that ridiculous theory. You have to accept that sometimes, sh*t just does happen. Dear silicOntoad; One day, you will stop CHOOSING women who have the character to cheat on you. When this day comes and you find yourself in a healthy relationship with a worthy partner, I promise you that you absolutely WILL be able to look back upon the 3 LTR's with cheaters and see clearly how you set yourself up. Or, you will never change YOUR patterns and either keep picking such women or be alone, bitter and blaming others for it. You can take it from one who has been there. Hope you choose the former option! P.S. I'm not a hippie or new age, either. Link to post Share on other sites
Dexter Morgan Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Oh please. Websites have nothing to do with it. Unscrupulous people and your, unfortunately, poor choices in partners are the cause of the problems. i have to agree with this. its not a websites fault someone is a cheating scumbag Take responsibility for your life and stop blaming websites. But this I don't. Yes, she may have had a poor choice in partners, but nobody is the expert at picking people out for a relationship, unless someone picks people out in a relationship for purely superficial reasons...then you might have a point. but don't get down on the poor woman for being in the unfortunate position of being with a cheater. Link to post Share on other sites
Dexter Morgan Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Oh, and websites have EVERYTHING to do with it. All three of my LTR partners found an easy route to cheat via facebook, an avenue, that, if it wasn't there, would have forced other options well no, it doesn't have anything to do with it. Those jackasses were cheaters regardless and would have cheated anyway.... craiglist or no craiglist. like you said it would have forced other options. To say it has everything to do with it would be to say its because of online site that they are cheaters.......not so...they are cheaters regardless of these sites. Link to post Share on other sites
meerkat stew Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Compulsive cheaters are often the most convincing liars as they have a history and much practice in living lies. It is utterly impossible to spot a smart compulsive cheater via red flags... they won't show any! In fact, many of them have become so expert that they seem totally perfect. The personality disordered ones, and a huge chunk of cheaters are PD or have strong tendencies, TAKE PRIDE in keeping secrets and being incredibly vigilant to hide their deceit. People who say that you can always, or even most of the time, tell a cheater from red flags just don't have enough experience with seasoned compulsive cheaters. So am in Silicontoad's camp on this one. Link to post Share on other sites
JackJack Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 I haven't read all of the replies, so I apologize if its already been said. I think its extemely dangerous that people have the nerve to put themselves out there like that to strangers. Yes, I'm sure its done all the time not just on the internet, but still, it screams desperation and low self esteem. Just my thoughts. Link to post Share on other sites
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