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Has anyone ever attended one? My friend wants me to go with him and I dont know what to expect.

 

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Eve xx

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Do they still have those? I thought the whole spiritualist thing ended in the 19th century or whenever.

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Well I didnt go anyway. I am not really that interested (at the moment) in this branch of the Church.. if it can even be regarded as a branch of the Church. :o

 

No. I am currently interested in psychics only.

 

So, what I am doing instead is going to see a psychic tomorrow - the details were provided by the friend I was going to attend the Spiritualist Church with. Apparently the psychic has a good reputation within a gifting I have not heard off before; she can clearly see three years into the future.

 

That to me is interesting.

 

If this is true, time itself must be fixed based on what would be the strongest decisions that have already been made.

 

Take care,

Eve xx

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What is exactly a spiritualist church?is it the marriage of eastern spiritualism with traditional judeo christian belief?

 

To my understanding, spiritualist churches are places where mediums and the like meet up. I do not know about any links to eastern spiritualism within such a context. Wikipedia explains some of what I know..

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritualism

 

Though I do understand that spirits exist .. my leanings are more towards Christian Mysticism rather than contacting spirits though. I am WAY too chicken for anything like that.. :laugh:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism

 

Take care,.

Eve xx

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Well, from what I hear they seem happy enough..

 

Go to the bathroom to pass wind please.. :p

 

Take care,

Eve xx

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.. what makes you think they hate Jesus and are thus 'liberals'.

 

Oh, never mind..

 

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Eve xx

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To my understanding, spiritualist churches are places where mediums and the like meet up.

 

Spiritualist churches are run by women from the 19th century with cockney accents and turbans who scam gullible Oxford men and bored London housewives out of their money by turning out all the lights, performing basic magic tricks, and pretending they can talk to their client's dead relatives. Why some people are still falling for the same crap 200 years later is beyond me.

 

Eve, if you want to get some answers, stop asking psychics and consider looking into physics.

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Spiritualist churches are run by women from the 19th century with cockney accents and turbans who scam gullible Oxford men and bored London housewives out of their money by turning out all the lights, performing basic magic tricks, and pretending they can talk to their client's dead relatives. Why some people are still falling for the same crap 200 years later is beyond me.

 

Eve, if you want to get some answers, stop asking psychics and consider looking into physics.

 

So, I think this means that you dont want to know how my reading went! :laugh:

 

Ok, you start. This is not meant to be intimidating.. unlike your response. I dont have a problem with physics at all but in all honesty I have never met a physicist, just read a bit here and there. Its about time we hear why and how precisely spiritual beliefs have been disproved by physics etc.

 

:)

 

I just know the basics of physics and remember thinking it a marvelous science which remained pretty open in my view.. but to be honest I cant remember that much.. :o

 

Also, please could you answer how reading from a physics book and following a scientific view.. often without adding to these views with your own experiments adds to why you can so confidently suppose a religious person of whatever discipline is somehow less intelligent in their approach?

 

My discipline is the Social Sciences you see and I am very interested in studies which examine how we interpret the world around us. A really interesting study I was reading the other day looked at how a person can still relate even high brow scientific explanations of their religious experiences but still maintain that there was 'something else' strongly evident that they call God.

 

So please dont assume yourself to be more intelligent by fact of your disbelief.. although self flattering, this is in fact too ambiguous a stance in itself.

 

Take care,

Eve xx

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Also, please could you answer how reading from a physics book and following a scientific view.. often without adding to these views with your own experiments adds to why you can so confidently suppose a religious person of whatever discipline is somehow less intelligent in their approach?

 

Hi Eva--I'm not really sure what you're asking me to answer here. Could you rephrase the question?

 

Physics in particular hasn't disproved spiritualist churches. In early years, people did that, mainly by turning on the lights or examining equipment in the room. That knocking sound that was supposed to come from the person's dead baby visiting from the beyond most often just turned out to be the seance leader's partner knocking on a box on the other side of the room, etc.

 

No, I just mentioned physics because it's a word that kind of looks like psychics, and I think physics is neat. You might too, especially if you're looking for answers about how the universe works.

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In short, I regard physics as the Granddaddy of the sciences. My ears pricked up because you sounded as though you had something in particular to say about something that you had read physics wise.

 

H'mm.. rephrasing the question I posed.. I dont think I can! Just that really. If someone reads something within a physics book, how applicable is that information in real life terms if they do not add to it? Is that not blind faith that what is read is true? Not saying physics is not true.. just comparing as both spirituality and physics deal with much that is unseen to our five senses.

 

The common thread of philosophy is where my interest lays mostly in this regard.

 

Regarding the psychic. I am aware to be cautious of 'inferences'. Dodgy psychics lead clients into basically doing all the talking. This did not happen in my situation. She had a stream of information that was accurate.

 

Even the Police use psychics!

 

Anyhow, I am VERY happy with the results of my visit. So to is my skeptical friend who has now rescinded what he said previously about spirits and God!

 

I really prayed for direction and extreme as it was to go to a psychic I am glad that I went. I wont be going to a spiritualist church though as my prayer has been answered.

 

Totally at peace now.

 

:)

 

Take care,

Eve xx

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Even the Police use psychics!

 

 

Any data on the success vs failure ratio....?

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Spiritualist churches are run by women from the 19th century with cockney accents and turbans who scam gullible Oxford men and bored London housewives out of their money by turning out all the lights, performing basic magic tricks, and pretending they can talk to their client's dead relatives. Why some people are still falling for the same crap 200 years later is beyond me.

 

Eve, if you want to get some answers, stop asking psychics and consider looking into physics.

 

 

:lmao: yes!!!!

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pro-lifers suck

 

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Did Charles Manson get loose - with a computer..

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H'mm.. rephrasing the question I posed.. I dont think I can! Just that really. If someone reads something within a physics book, how applicable is that information in real life terms if they do not add to it? Is that not blind faith that what is read is true?

 

Well, I'm not sure why "adding" to the information would make it more true than before. What do you mean "add to it"?

 

Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "applicable in real life terms". Random info you would read about physics is applicable to the subject it's talking about. So, for instance, if you read about black holes, that's applicable to black holes.

 

Maybe you could give an example of what you're talking about?

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Well, I'm not sure why "adding" to the information would make it more true than before. What do you mean "add to it"?

 

Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "applicable in real life terms". Random info you would read about physics is applicable to the subject it's talking about. So, for instance, if you read about black holes, that's applicable to black holes.

 

Maybe you could give an example of what you're talking about?

 

:)

 

Not really what I meant.. but Michelle, it doesnt really matter. I am not here to convince you.

 

All in all, I think I use the psychic realm as a means of hoping that unbelievers will take the opportunity to see for themselves before what I know to be judgement.

 

Regarding the physics thing, I tend to think that what is seen now cannot be compared to what I speak off. For example, can a spirit be held to the same classifications and measurements as someone in the natural realm? Even at a stretch of imagination the conclusion will be the same. The only measurement will be experience.

 

Einsteins string theory interests me as does any theory about alternative dimensions. This reality is time limited after all and is coming to an end whether people believe it or not.

 

I am also interested in astral projection.

 

Karl Popper and his philosophy of science also interests me.. but overall I accept that by fortune of faith I am forced to hope for better for others, even though they call what I know beyond doubt, ancedotal evidence.

 

Also I like psychics because the genuine ones usually have survived a trauma or two which opened their minds. I have an ear for those who become rejected from this world moreso than those who claim a tight fit.

 

Michelle, take care and I wish you all the best on your journey, whatever that may be..

Eve xx

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