"Nice" girls, like Sandra Bullock....

[St. Nick]

Why not? She was betrayed and humiliated publicly by her husband why should we feel sorry for her? What are the variables of a circumstance that need to fall into place in order to feel sorry for someone. Does is have to be a man being cheated on instead? This is the same thing I kept hearing about Tiger Woods' wife when she was cheated on.

 

What does it take for some of you men to actually feel so sort of empathy for a woman who has been betrayed by her husband? Or do you hate women that much that it doesn't matter, you will always find her at fault?

Personally, I don't feel sorry for celebrities who haved messed up relationships, whether male or female, but that's just me.

 

If she wasn't a celebrity I still wouldn't feel sorry for her. His second wife was a pornstar. He's been known to like strippers, pornstars, and loose chicks in general. How hard was it for Sandra Bullock to tell that he's less likely to stay faithful than a dude who compliments her "nice girl" image? Really? She fell in love with the bad boy: the tattoos, the motorcycles, the "cool pose", and the fact that he's got women clawing after him. You're trying to make it seem like she was completely clueless to all the signs. Yeah right.

 

I don't know if I agree with the argument that "all men cheat", but I will agree with the argument that some men are less likely to cheat than others. He was probably already dating some stripper when she met him. I wouldn't be surprised. She liked the rebel quality in him and she got what she wanted: a guy who disrespects the rules and doesn't believe in playing fair. She got her cake, now she should eat it.

[xxoo]

Also keep in mind cheating is not taboo all over the world, and in many cultures men have many wives/girlfriends and it is to be expected.

 

This is very true!

 

Also, there are cultures where women have many of sexual partners and it is to be expected. In our cuture, monogamy is expected.

 

And it isn't about the piece of paper. I could care less about the marriage. It is about the commitment, acting with character, and making choices that preserve the relationships you want to keep.

[threebyfate]

Men are as faithful as their options.. That is how they genetically are constructed. Some will go further and seek out women to cheat with, others will not.

 

I find it funny that women expect to change male human nature because a piece of paper was signed.. Also keep in mind cheating is not taboo all over the world, and in many cultures men have many wives/girlfriends and it is to be expected.

So that's why you haven't cheated, since you have no options!

 

I know men who have plenty of options, who haven't cheated. I also know men who have plenty of options, who have cheated. There's a similarity within each type, beyond gender. It's a combination of self-entitlement and pure selfishness, for those who would, and for those who won't, view cheating as being something they refuse to indulge in, that it's an action they deem as low, thus beneath them.

 

Why aren't you women blaming your "modern day feminism" for all the sluts running around trying to sleep with married men?

This isn't applicable since Jesse James lied to the OW about his marital status.

[Johnny M]

Women are not going out and having sex with strangers everyday, are they? They can, why don't they?

Women cheat as much as men do....maybe even more. The difference is that for a lot if guys, cheating is a 'moment of weakness' thing (though admittedly no always), while for women, it's usually a preplanned, very much conscious decision.

[Johnny M]

I know men who have plenty of options, who haven't cheated.

And how do you know this exactly? Do you keep these men under 24/7 surveillance?

 

Not saying that all men with options are cheaters, but I find that the naivete of the above statement to be highly amusing.

[Twenty-ten]

Can you imagine paying a crackhead off the street to have sex with you? Because that might give us some important "consider the source" information about you.

 

 

Exactly!! If it were just about having another body as he says, why don't all men pay crack hoes to go with them?

 

It absolutely says something about the source it says he is just a messed up cheater. End of story. All you men who keep blaming women for these douchebags' decisions consider yourselves on a mission to defend those you feel resonate with you and your character on some level.

[threebyfate]

And how do you know this exactly? Do you keep these men under 24/7 surveillance?

 

Not saying that all men with options are cheaters, but I find that the naivete of the above statement to be highly amusing.

How do you know that all or most men do and will cheat? Do you keep all or most men under your surveillance? Can you mind read?

[Twenty-ten]

Women cheat as much as men do....maybe even more. The difference is that for a lot if guys, cheating is a 'moment of weakness' thing (though admittedly no always), while for women, it's usually a preplanned, very much conscious decision.

 

 

A one night stand is a moment of weakness, a year relationship, as Jesse had with this woman had, is not a "moment" of weakness it is a clear and conscious decision to lead a double life and to destroy your marriage.

[sweetjasmine]

That is how they genetically are constructed.

 

That is such bs.

 

Care to show us peer-reviewed scientific studies that provide evidence for your insightful discovery?

[calizaggy]

I know men who have plenty of options, who haven't cheated. I also know men who have plenty of options, who have cheated. There's a similarity within each type, beyond gender. It's a combination of self-entitlement and pure selfishness, for those who would, and for those who won't, view cheating as being something they refuse to indulge in, that it's an action they deem as low, thus beneath them.

 

This isn't applicable since Jesse James lied to the OW about his marital status.

 

 

And how do you know what secrets these men have?

 

She could have done a quick google search to see he is married, lol.. And how do you know what they talked about? I guess you know everyones deepest secrets..

 

I have a married friend, and all of his wives friends think he is the greatest guy, etc etc.. Little do they know he cheated on her with about 15 different women.. It is like women must actually be told someone is cheating for them to believe men actually cheat..

[sweetjasmine]

It absolutely says something about the source it says he is just a messed up cheater. End of story. All you men who keep blaming women for these douchebags' decisions consider yourselves on a mission to defend those you feel resonate with you and your character on some level.

 

Yeah, no kidding. And in the rush to blame it on women, they end up tarring all men as pieces of trash who are incapable of keeping it in their pants even when they promise to because having no character or morals or respect for your partner is "genetically" determined, and all males are like that.

 

Talk about male-bashing. Sheesh.

[threebyfate]

And how do you know what secrets these men have?

 

She could have done a quick google search to see he is married, lol.. And how do you know what they talked about? I guess you know everyones deepest secrets..

I know, the same way you know.

 

I have a married friend, and all of his wives friends think he is the greatest guy, etc etc.. Little do they know he cheated on her with about 15 different women.. It is like women must actually be told someone is cheating for them to believe men actually cheat..

So this converts to all men are deceitful liars and pigs. Why do you hate men so much?

[Toodamnpragmatic]

Personally, I don't feel sorry for celebrities who haved messed up relationships, whether male or female, but that's just me.

 

If she wasn't a celebrity I still wouldn't feel sorry for her. His second wife was a pornstar. He's been known to like strippers, pornstars, and loose chicks in general. How hard was it for Sandra Bullock to tell that he's less likely to stay faithful than a dude who compliments her "nice girl" image? Really? She fell in love with the bad boy: the tattoos, the motorcycles, the "cool pose", and the fact that he's got women clawing after him. You're trying to make it seem like she was completely clueless to all the signs. Yeah right.

 

I don't know if I agree with the argument that "all men cheat", but I will agree with the argument that some men are less likely to cheat than others. He was probably already dating some stripper when she met him. I wouldn't be surprised. She liked the rebel quality in him and she got what she wanted: a guy who disrespects the rules and doesn't believe in playing fair. She got her cake, now she should eat it.

 

Sandra is pretty not gorgeous, successful and has plenty of opportunities and options and she chose a twice married "bad boy".... Fell bad for her, not sorry.....

[sweetjasmine]

So this converts to all men are deceitful liars and pigs. Why do you hate men so much?

 

Well, you see, it's all genetic so it's not their fault that they're deceitful liars and pigs. They can't help it. It's human nature. Now if only those annoying ball-breaking feminists would stop trying to change human nature...

[Twenty-ten]

 

If she wasn't a celebrity I still wouldn't feel sorry for her. His second wife was a pornstar. He's been known to like strippers, pornstars, and loose chicks in general. How hard was it for Sandra Bullock to tell that he's less likely to stay faithful than a dude who compliments her "nice girl" image? Really? She fell in love with the bad boy: the tattoos, the motorcycles, the "cool pose", and the fact that he's got women clawing after him. You're trying to make it seem like she was completely clueless to all the signs. Yeah right.

 

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Ok that's understandable. I know what you are saying but don't forget she IS an actress, though I never found her to be particularly gorgeous she is found attractive by some I am sure. It takes a certain level of "confidence" if you will to be with someone who is that sought after and in the limelight so perhaps his being "clawed after" is directly in proportion with her popularity among men. She has the good girl next door image but she is still a Hollywood actress with fame and success.

 

I don't know enough about this Jesse guy but his past would an instant deal breaker for me, but I am not an actress and I don't run in circles like people in Hollywood do. So on some level the popularity amongst the opposite sex is somewhat on he level. I don't see them terribly mismatched in that sense, if you say he is sought after by women. I totally don't see it as I always thought he was not only gross looking but totally boring the minute he opened his mouth as well. But I do see them mismatched in terms of the type of popularity they have she has popularity around her art and talent where as he seems to have popularity around his image which is simply that, what he looks like on paper. For this I think they may be considerably mismatched.

[Taramere]

Then why is female prostitution thriving? I mean if men and women are the same sexually, why aren't there an equal number of male hookers catering to women?

 

Jesus. There is absolutely no way I would call up some male hooker and arrange a sexual liaison. No more than I would get embroiled in that whole Craigslist "casual sexual encounters" thing.

 

A very basic consideration for a woman who wants to have sex is "will I be safe with the guy, or might he be some kind of sex offender I'll have a horrific experience with?" So most women are going to want to build up some basic trust with a guy before they contemplate sleeping with him.

 

Phoning up some random guy who advertises himself as a prostitute would be a ludicrous risk for any woman to take. Picking up some crackhead of a guy off the street in some female impersonation of Hugh Grant? Good God. You'd have to have a deathwish.

[calizaggy]

I know, the same way you know.

 

So this converts to all men are deceitful liars and pigs. Why do you hate men so much?

 

 

Bill Clinton, Ghandi, Martin Luther King, etc.. Ok, they are all deceitful liars and pigs, lol..

 

Look, the entire make up and character of a man is not defined by something silly like where he puts his dick for a few minutes.. Us men ahve more important things to be judged on.. For important men women are just play things for amusement..And many women are lined up to be those play things.

 

Anyway, women throw themselves at all of these "Pigs".. I am sure Sandra could have married some nerdy accountant guy who works from home who would be far less likely to cheat..

[Johnny M]

How do you know that all or most men do and will cheat? Do you keep all or most men under your surveillance? Can you mind read?

I don't know that most men do and will cheat. However, I do know that you apparently can't read.

[sweetjasmine]

Look, the entire make up and character of a man is not defined by something silly like where he puts his dick for a few minutes.. Us men ahve more important things to be judged on.. For important men women are just play things for amusement..And many women are lined up to be those play things.

 

So you wouldn't care if your wife cheated on you.

[threebyfate]

Well, you see, it's all genetic so it's not their fault that they're deceitful liars and pigs. They can't help it. It's human nature. Now if only those annoying ball-breaking feminists would stop trying to change human nature...

You have to wonder why calizaggy and his ilk, hate men so much. Perhaps they had bad relationships with their fathers, sexually abused and molested, who knows. But to believe that all men lack any modicum of integrity, that even if it's genetically programmed that all men are deceitful liars and pigs, which I completely disagree with, nurture can easily reprogram. But if nurture includes their fathers being abusive and incapable of controlling their rutting instincts, it's not surprising they would believe that all men will cheat. They see other men as projections of who they are and also, what they're capable of doing.

[Twenty-ten]

She could have done a quick google search to see he is married, lol..

 

 

 

He said he was separated, last I checked that still means being married so how do you google to see if someone who is dating an actor is still with their x's when they say they are a actually separated? Call TMZ for the "truth?" The Enquirer?

 

She was off filming movies and he could have easily said she comes home and we share the kids so we are still under the same roof but separated living in different quarters and in the process of getting rid of everything. Many men use that lame excuses like that, it's not far fetched at all the lengths some married men will go to make women believe they are available. Not excusing women for not doing their due diligence but what was she to do show up at their home, call Sandra Bullock's publicist? What she should have done is just not get involved at all period. But then you read about real men who are seperated and wanting to date talking about how unfair it is that they are not given a chance given their still married status even though they are ready and willing to start a new life. Well DUHH with so many douchebags out there who lie and cheat women into thinking they are are fine to date, why should women trust them?

 

How about the douchebag just tell the truth and then if she still wants to proceed with getting involved with him we can bash her all you want?

[calizaggy]

You have to wonder why calizaggy and his ilk, hate men so much. Perhaps they had bad relationships with their fathers, sexually abused and molested, who knows. But to believe that all men lack any modicum of integrity, that even if it's genetically programmed that all men are deceitful liars and pigs, which I completely disagree with, nurture can easily reprogram. But if nurture includes their fathers being abusive and incapable of controlling their rutting instincts, it's not surprising they would believe that all men will cheat. They see other men as projections of who they are and also, what they're capable of doing.

 

 

Didn't you marry a man like the above? I thought you were divorced because you were cheated on? You must be another one of those females that according to you "married one of the few men that would cheat".. Or you drove him to it..Why was your "cheating radar" so low?

 

 

All men deeply desire to touch another woman. (Including your hubby TBF) If they have the opportunity in the right situation is a different story..

 

Men are great... If they cheat I am not vieiwing them in a negative light at all..Boys will be boys. Even OJ had a flock of hot women trying to date him.. Bill Clinton was the most fantasized male,.Why do women love the cheaters?

[sweetjasmine]

But to believe that all men lack any modicum of integrity, that even if it's genetically programmed that all men are deceitful liars and pigs, which I completely disagree with, nurture can easily reprogram.

 

Yup. Nurture would certainly help.

 

But his attitude is that cheating isn't important (when it's men doing the cheating) and it doesn't say anything about a man's character because he's got too many other things to worry about than being honest to his partner and having integrity. Besides, women are objects to be used, anyway, so it's all good. Imagine passing that attitude on to your kids.

 

But if nurture includes their fathers being abusive and incapable of controlling their rutting instincts, it's not surprising they would believe that all men will cheat. They see other men as projections of who they are and also, what they're capable of doing.

 

Yup. Bingo.

 

Better to think that every single man is like you and perfectly and easily capable of cheating on, lying to, disrespecting, and hurting their partner. That's better than admitting you have no integrity yourself. Externalize it so you don't have to face your demons.

[Twenty-ten]

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Anyway, women throw themselves at all of these "Pigs".. I am sure Sandra could have married some nerdy accountant guy who works from home who would be far less likely to cheat..

 

 

That is precisely the type of guy who would be more prone to cheat in that scenario because he would use your excuse of "neglect" (translation = envy of her level of success) to cheat.

 

People cheat out of low self esteem, and weak character. Paint it as you will, but there is no other way around it.

[sweetjasmine]

Men are great... If they cheat I am not vieiwing them in a negative light at all..Boys will be boys. Even OJ had a flock of hot women trying to date him.. Bill Clinton was the most fantasized male,.Why do women love the cheaters?

 

(A) All men are cheaters because boys will be boys, and it's genetically determined.

 

(B) All heterosexual women love men.

 

Therefore

 

© Women love cheaters.

 

Boy, this is easy.