Women are naturally doomed

[Enema]

Catchy title, no?

 

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The only men who get sex constantly are "alpha males" (ie. the most attractive, wealthy, powerful men). Women prefer these types of men as sexual partners because their genetic success implies an opportunity to pass on more successful genes. Obviously this is all subconscious.

 

What's ironic about women preferring these types of men is that they make the worst partners in relationships. Because alpha men are desired by all women, they have no reason to stick to just one woman. Especially when biologically, men are designed to reproduce many times and to diversify their dna as much as possible. This leads to these types of males cheating on their spouses, or not ever emotionally attached or supportive.

 

Women prefer to be with these men and not beta males (nice guys). Nice guys would make better partners in relationships because they can appreciate their mate better, are not likely to cheat, and will provide emotional support because they are genuinely interested in the person they care about.

 

Of course women are quick to dismiss these men as, "being manipulative in order to get sex" - but we all know that's just a females excuse so that they can shake the stigma of being considered shallow and only wanting rich/attractive men.

 

In other words, nice try sluts.

[Els]

Nope. Dated nice guys, always will.

 

Only problem is that nice guys very often tend to take things for granted and become not-so-nice once the initial thrill of 'OMG I actually got myself an intelligent, decent-looking and compatible girlfriend who loves me!' wears off, IMO.

[Lizzie60]

Enema.. what kind are you? Alpha.. Beta.. or Alphabet?

[Woggle]

It's quantity vs quality. Your typical alpha who in many cases is not really alpha at all do have women crawling over them but the man who stays true to himself while having the spine to never let himself be mistreated will get a better quality woman then all the bad boy's groupies put together.

[stillafool]

Catchy title, no?

 

Copied from another forum:

 

The only men who get sex constantly are "alpha males" (ie. the most attractive, wealthy, powerful men). Women prefer these types of men as sexual partners because their genetic success implies an opportunity to pass on more successful genes. Obviously this is all subconscious.

 

What's ironic about women preferring these types of men is that they make the worst partners in relationships. Because alpha men are desired by all women, they have no reason to stick to just one woman. Especially when biologically, men are designed to reproduce many times and to diversify their dna as much as possible. This leads to these types of males cheating on their spouses, or not ever emotionally attached or supportive.

 

Women prefer to be with these men and not beta males (nice guys). Nice guys would make better partners in relationships because they can appreciate their mate better, are not likely to cheat, and will provide emotional support because they are genuinely interested in the person they care about.

 

Of course women are quick to dismiss these men as, "being manipulative in order to get sex" - but we all know that's just a females excuse so that they can shake the stigma of being considered shallow and only wanting rich/attractive men.

 

In other words, nice try sluts.

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The only women who get chosen constantly are "gorgeous women" (ie. the most attractive, hot, and beautiful women). Men prefer these types of women as sexual partners because their genetic success implies an opportunity to pass on more successful genes. Obviously this is all subconscious.

 

What's ironic about men preferring these types of women is that they make the worst partners in relationships. Because beautiful women are desired by all men, they have no reason to stick to just one man. Especially when biologically, women are designed to reproduce many times. This leads to these types of females cheating on their spouses, or not ever emotionally attached or supportive.

 

Men prefer to be with these women and average females (nice girls). Nice girls would make better partners in relationships because they can appreciate their mate better, are not likely to cheat, and will provide emotional support because they are genuinely interested in the person they care about.

 

Of course men are quick to dismiss these women as, "not hot enough" - but we all know that's just a males excuse so that they can shake the stigma of being considered shallow and only wanting pretty and attractive women.

 

In otherwords, nice try DICK.

[Enema]

Enema.. what kind are you? Alpha.. Beta.. or Alphabet?

 

I think the alpha/beta thing is nonsense.

 

It works generally, but nothing is ever so black and white. It's a sliding scale and I can be alpha or beta depending on the day and my mood.

 

Plant me as a solid Grey.

[betamanlet]

I was nice at every stage of a relationship and that doesn't produce drama, so my girlfriends would grow bored.

[elysium23]

They don't sound like nice guys. There's a huge difference between a guy who is genuinely nice and one who is only nice at the beginning of a relationship.

 

Yeah, but that's exactly what your typical "nice guy" is like. Like those guys who always complain "girls only like *******s. no one will get with me because i'm too nice!" every guy i have met who has that attitude was NOT a genuinely nice person. They just pretend they're you're friend so they may get laid one day.

 

I have had it happen to me twice, where I thought I was good friends with a guy, only for him to tell me a year down the road that he wants me and he always has. That is so devastating because our entire friendship turned out to be a lie! The minute I said that I didn't feel the same way, he acted like I was the one to blame; like I was just some "cock-tease" even though I never suggested that I wanted a relationship or sex. Then those guys throw a pity-party about how they can't have a relationship because they're just "too nice" which is BS because it's not nice to lie about your intentions in a relationship and pretend to be friends so you can get laid.

 

And I have met many girls who have had this same thing happen to them.

Edited April 23, 2010 by elysium23

[LucreziaBorgia]

I tend to agree, but in my case I hit it lucky - I am settling down with a genuinely nice cuddly guy who tends toward beta in most ways, but is a solid sexy alpha in the bedroom. Perfect combo.

[blair08]

I dated one guy in my life who was a "alpha male"...that ended by me, thankfully. I have never dated or been interested in guys who are the bad boy types, powerful, think they are all that kind of guys. It doesn't appeal to me, if anything is turns me off.

[soulm8]

The only men who get sex constantly are "alpha males" (ie. the most attractive, wealthy, powerful men). Women prefer these types of men as sexual partners because their genetic success implies an opportunity to pass on more successful genes. Obviously this is all subconscious.

 

What's ironic about women preferring these types of men is that they make the worst partners in relationships. Because alpha men are desired by all women, they have no reason to stick to just one woman. Especially when biologically, men are designed to reproduce many times and to diversify their dna as much as possible. This leads to these types of males cheating on their spouses, or not ever emotionally attached or supportive.

 

Women prefer to be with these men and not beta males (nice guys). Nice guys would make better partners in relationships because they can appreciate their mate better, are not likely to cheat, and will provide emotional support because they are genuinely interested in the person they care about.

 

Of course women are quick to dismiss these men as, "being manipulative in order to get sex" - but we all know that's just a females excuse so that they can shake the stigma of being considered shallow and only wanting rich/attractive men.

 

In other words, nice try sluts.

 

I have to respectfully disagree with this.

 

As a 38 yr old, divorced mother of 2, who was raped as a teen... I was afraid of alpha men. I befriended them but only dated betas because they treated me well and I wasn't "afraid" of them. I married a nice beta and well... divorced him 14 years later because his "niceness" was manipulative and self-serving. It took many years of being with him to realize this.

 

At 35, I dipped my feet back into the dating pool and dated both betas and alphas. The thing is, alphas do not manipulate to get sex... they simply live their lives and go after what they want or not.

 

I was never a slut and never will be; I love monogamous sex and I'm finally experiencing that with an alpha who does not cheat.

 

An alpha male isn't automatically a player... it's the attitude he has, the confidence he exudes, his manliness and his skills in the bedroom that make him an alpha. http://www.themodernman.com/how_to_become_an_alpha_male.html

Edited April 23, 2010 by soulm8

[PandorasBox]

"Women are naturally doomed."

 

I'm glad I do not have this mind set, or I guess I would be.

[Jersey Shortie]

In other words, nice try sluts.

 

How old are you?

 

 

stillafool:

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The only women who get chosen constantly are "gorgeous women" (ie. the most attractive, hot, and beautiful women). Men prefer these types of women as sexual partners because their genetic success implies an opportunity to pass on more successful genes. Obviously this is all subconscious.

 

What's ironic about men preferring these types of women is that they make the worst partners in relationships. Because beautiful women are desired by all men, they have no reason to stick to just one man. Especially when biologically, women are designed to reproduce many times. This leads to these types of females cheating on their spouses, or not ever emotionally attached or supportive.

 

Men prefer to be with these women and average females (nice girls). Nice girls would make better partners in relationships because they can appreciate their mate better, are not likely to cheat, and will provide emotional support because they are genuinely interested in the person they care about.

 

Of course men are quick to dismiss these women as, "not hot enough" - but we all know that's just a males excuse so that they can shake the stigma of being considered shallow and only wanting pretty and attractive women.

 

In otherwords, nice try DICK.

 

Exactly. Note how Enema didn't touch this one.

[Zed]

I guess with all these truths about the declining value of women as they age we should all go out in the fields like good little lemmings when we hit 30 and commit Seppuku because we wasted the pretty on degenerate bad boys because we are somehow pavlovian programmed to mate with unstable alphas in order to pass on genes. After 6 million years on earth as various hominids, shouldn’t we have reached a critical mass already and have imploded with all these women making horrible fertility mistakes with nice guys being bred out already.

[Enema]

To reiterate what some have missed in their zeal to crucify the offending male - I did not write the post.

 

Simply copied it, in it's entirety (including the last line JS) from another forum.

 

I've already posted my views on alphas/betas in this thread in response to Lizzie.

[Nikki Sahagin]

Hmmm....

 

Well my ex was an alpha in the sense that he was outgoing, people gravitated towards him and he was a leader amongst his friends. But that wasn't what drew me to him. We met and began talking away from all of this and I liked him for his humour, our honesty together, the way we 'clicked'. Also although he was an alpha personality in many ways, he was also a nice guy and completely soft and I LOVED that. Most 'alphas' I think put on an act. I personally am attracted to guys that aren't alphas (supposedly above me) or betas (below me) but equals. I don't want a guy who is better than me and will cheat and be a d*** but I also don't want a guy who is too nice and acts like my slave. Me and my ex had this equality thing because our relationship stemmed from an amazing friendship.

[Els]

OP, indeed you didn't write the article, but it's placed here for discussion. So that would warrant discussion and subsequent crucification of it, no?

 

stillafool makes a wonderful point which I agree with 100%, by the way.

[shadowofman]

Consider the fact that women tend to like men that are the aggressive initiator of sex. And for women, they tend to only want this from the men that they want it from. Usually one man at a time. So women prefer a driven, assertive partner, but assertive driven men tend to be this way by nature, with or without her. A man that is only assertive with one woman is extremely rare.

 

Correction, a man that WANTS to only be assertive with only one woman is rare.

[Nikki Sahagin]

I agree with Shadowman. Well...for the most part. I do think people want all different things but I think a lot of women prefer the man to be the leading partner in sex. I like the partner to be the leader in sex but not in anything else!

[Ilovecake]

Catchy title, no?

 

Copied from another forum:

 

The only men who get sex constantly are "alpha males" (ie. the most attractive, wealthy, powerful men). Women prefer these types of men as sexual partners because their genetic success implies an opportunity to pass on more successful genes. Obviously this is all subconscious.

 

What's ironic about women preferring these types of men is that they make the worst partners in relationships. Because alpha men are desired by all women, they have no reason to stick to just one woman. Especially when biologically, men are designed to reproduce many times and to diversify their dna as much as possible. This leads to these types of males cheating on their spouses, or not ever emotionally attached or supportive.

 

Women prefer to be with these men and not beta males (nice guys). Nice guys would make better partners in relationships because they can appreciate their mate better, are not likely to cheat, and will provide emotional support because they are genuinely interested in the person they care about.

 

Of course women are quick to dismiss these men as, "being manipulative in order to get sex" - but we all know that's just a females excuse so that they can shake the stigma of being considered shallow and only wanting rich/attractive men.

 

In other words, nice try sluts.

 

I assume you are neither a woman nor an Alpha male therefore you're pulling all this BS out of your butt?

[Nocturnal]

Purely biologically speaking, alpha males appeal to women while they're ovulating because alpha males make for good healthy genetics. They're often healthy, athletic and/or successful in other ways. Basically in a condition that to a woman's biological needs say; hey, he'll make a good offspring. That has nothing to do with our moden day social needs as humans today.

 

However, ironically, when women are not ovulating they tend to prefer men that speaks more to their other sensibilities and not just the need to reproduce.

 

Alpha males get a lot of flack from men who are not seen as such, because they usually don't understand what an alpha male truly is. An alpha male is as much of a biological thing as it is a social contruct. You don't have to be a quarterback to be the alpha male. If you can socially dominate a space, it doesn't matter that you're not at the gym 24/7, you're still the alpha male.

 

But as with all these discussions, at the end of the day, the man who can't make an effort to make an impression has no right to whine about alpha this or good guy that. It's his own fault, not the woman he didn't approach.

[stillafool]

Purely biologically speaking, alpha males appeal to women while they're ovulating because alpha males make for good healthy genetics. They're often healthy, athletic and/or successful in other ways. Basically in a condition that to a woman's biological needs say; hey, he'll make a good offspring. That has nothing to do with our moden day social needs as humans today.

 

However, ironically, when women are not ovulating they tend to prefer men that speaks more to their other sensibilities and not just the need to reproduce.

 

 

What about women who have no desire whatsoever to have children but still want an alpha male?

[Nocturnal]

It doesn't matter. What people think they want and what their genetics tell them they want are still connected in some forms. I may say I dont want kids, but that doesn't mean my body isn't built to want to reproduce to ensure the survival of my genes and/or the spieces in general. So, while I might not aspire to have kids, my subconcious is still looking for someone with a nice set of.. genes.

 

Still, I don't think it's that strict either. I would rather say genes color what we look for in a mate, but our minds will also look for what we actively think is attractive, not just what our genetics tell us would make good offsprings.

[stillafool]

It doesn't matter. What people think they want and what their genetics tell them they want are still connected in some forms. I may say I dont want kids, but that doesn't mean my body isn't built to want to reproduce to ensure the survival of my genes and/or the spieces in general. So, while I might not aspire to have kids, my subconcious is still looking for someone with a nice set of.. genes.

 

Still, I don't think it's that strict either. I would rather say genes color what we look for in a mate, but our minds will also look for what we actively think is attractive, not just what our genetics tell us would make good offsprings.

 

What about women past menopause who still want to sex only alpha males?

[Green]

There is no such thing as the "Alpha Males" when it comes to humans. The term "Alpha" was taken from a study of wolves and it only means the wolf who mated it has nothing to do with fighting to the top.

 

In human culture the richer and better off you are the less children you are going to have. In poor countries and poor areas people have a lot more children so technicaly if you take the animal kindom and apply it to human you are saying that the poorest of the poor are the most alpha with in our society.