Maybe porn really does more harm than good for men?

[A O]

I think you need to revist the topic of this thread because it's certainly not about me. Trying to dictate my comments based more on what you personally want them to be that best suits you, has nothing to do with this thread.

You'll use any thread with the word 'porn' in it to preach your gospel. Rarely can you keep your comments specific to the goings on of a single poster/thread. No, instead you'll use this situation to get on your soapbox. I'd doubt if you've even quoted the OP. Certainly you've not tackled his juxtaposition.

 

I understand that not all my comments are glowing examples of praise for men.

Its the other way around. Not all your comments paint men in a bad light. Just most of em.

 

But if that alone automatically equals hate for you, you really need to reevaluate why you personally hold that view, completely seperate from my own opinions because my opinions have nothing to do with your personal interpretation. My opinions on this topic can be honest, raw and biting but often deal with the ugly and true possibilites.

Your opinions are, for the most part, simply interpretations of porn users. I don't agree with most of them, I let you know. You don't agree with mine - you hit victim mode.

 

I also am baffled by the "rationalization" that I am a man-hater because I question a multi-billion dollar business

When you question, you move away from questioning the industry and more into questioning those that use it. That is where most of your comments lie, in the latter not the former. And you do more than just question too, you have no shortage of opinions and theories surrounding the users. And most of them, most of them are anti-user, and since you totally ignore the fact that some women use porn too, then anti-user simply becomes anti-men.

 

AO, you are offended because I dare question how men really view or see women based on popular porn viewing habits of today.

Am I offended or simply taking you to task which in turn ends up offending you.

 

I am offended that enough men rather defend pornography, their right to objectfy women

More women objectify themselves everyday than men ever do. You don't get on your soapbox about that now do you.

 

AO, I believe you hate women. So I guess in some way that sadly makes us even.

That's OK. I know what I am - its all good.

 

I never once said men that view porn were bad or evil or hated women.

You don't need to say as much. You just need to infer it, over and over and over again. Throw enough mud, and some is bound to stick. That's about all you can hope for I imagine.

 

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[RobM]

I propose a new LS rule, once a thread runs over 10 pages there is a general election and people can vote to continue it or kill it.

[Jersey Shortie]

Yes, I agree, I think shows like those listed above DO more insiduously depict females as money grubbing snobs who only want to dig for gold. That gives me a more negative feeling about women then watching some girl get dick smacked across the lips in a porn.

 

Of course it does! Because when women are into a guy's money and want to use him for that, the man is the one that potentially is being used and degraded. When a woman is the one getting smacked on the face with a dick or other such acts, the man is in the position of power over the woman taking pleasure in her submission. The man isn't the one being show degradingly. So I can fully see why you would rally against images of men being used for money but be all for images of wome nbeing used for sex.

 

By the way, you are one to talk about selective reading. When I see you acutally address a few good points of mine, I will be more then happy to meet some of your other questions. But because some of you let many of my good points go unmentioned, I no longer feel the need to address every point you make.

[Jersey Shortie]

AO, you insist on making me the subject of your comments instead of the actual topic. There are just some things I am going to ignore because I think it's ridiculous to keep laminating on *me* instead of actually talking about the subject.

 

 

When you question, you move away from questioning the industry and more into questioning those that use it.

 

I totally question those that use it. And I think that's fair. The difference is that I am not saying those that use it or "evil". But I am not going to pretend they are perfect either. That's your own mentality. What I am saying is that men aren't perfect and porn is a HUGE weakness and one that's evern growing sadly enough.

 

...you have no shortage of opinions and theories surrounding the users.

 

Of course I do. You have no shortage of your own opinions of theories. Heck, anyone on LS has no shortage of their opinions and theories.

 

 

Am I offended or simply taking you to task which in turn ends up offending you.

 

Since you directly said you were offended, I am going to take your word that you were and are offended. Unless you say things you don't really mean. Which is it?

 

More women objectify themselves everyday than men ever do. You don't get on your soapbox about that now do you.

 

For sure. What does that have to do with how men objectfy women I have no idea accept it's an attempt at deflection, again, in addresing the topic.

 

 

You don't need to say as much.

 

Actually I do need to say as much. If you are going to try to attach meanings to things I never said, yuo better be able to back it up.

[PJKino]

JS why do u claim all women dont like certain things in bed?

 

Some women like to be submissive in bed and try crazy thigns,some like getting choked or spanked some women dont you act like you speak for all women

[Jersey Shortie]

Where did I claim all women don't like certain things in bed??

 

And yes, I am FULLY aware that some women like to be submissive in bed. I like to be submissive in bed, in the confines of a trusted relationship. What does that have to do with the porn industry and how it depicts women? And I most certainly don't speak for all women. But I do speak for many.

[PJKino]

Where did I claim all women don't like certain things in bed??

 

And yes, I am FULLY aware that some women like to be submissive in bed. I like to be submissive in bed, in the confines of a trusted relationship. What does that have to do with the porn industry and how it depicts women? And I most certainly don't speak for all women. But I do speak for many.

 

Because u claim porns making women do all these crazy things in bed as if women just want to stay in ther missionary positon and thats it but porns forced thme to try different things they dont wanna do..

[SarahRose]

I honestly don't know why you guys keep claiming that she hates all men. In fact I saw on another thread that it "warmed her heart" there was a group of guys that didn't look at porn and were trying to focus on their relationships.

 

JS has claimed over and over again that she does not like porn and thinks that it affects men's attitude toward women. I have found very few people in general that I have talked to (pre- finding out about my husband) that really dispute this. In fact I think that it is odd that it is even disputed. Do you guy really think that porn doesn't affect a man's relationship or sex with his SO whether positively or negatively?

 

Do you really think that expectations for women sexually have not changed since the internet access to porn became so easy?

 

I am actually curious, do you think that this is really the case?

 

JS has repeatedly said she finds it degrading, and that she doesn't like what it has done in her sex life. I can say that I agree on both points.

 

What is it that she has actually said that you find so offensive? Can you quote it and put it in bold because I am curious why she is constantly being labelled a misandrist.

 

I am not being sarcastic, I actually wish to see the offensive writing and what you guys draw from it.

 

 

Exactly! I am not seeing the hate in JS posts at all. Her posts are articulate and taking a stand and calling attention to porn.

 

I don't see how any poster can say it isn't degrading to women? When a guy is on a porn film choking and calling a woman filthy names that is not degrading??????? How can it not be degrading??????

 

The one guy that posted his gf watches girl on girl porn; well obviously that fits into his kink and is acceptable but would he be so encouraging if she had a kink for male on male porn or just solo guys much more buff and hung than him?

 

If there was a porn medium made just for women and they were partaking in it, I don't think the men would be so thrilled about it. Look at all the guys on here that flip out with their retroactive jealousy.

[A O]

AO, you insist on making me the subject of your comments instead of the actual topic. There are just some things I am going to ignore because I think it's ridiculous to keep laminating on *me* instead of actually talking about the subject.

You and the subject are one. Zen! I am simply taking your opinions, your behavior to task, as you are mine. But one of us loves to play victim. No guesses for who that it.

 

I totally question those that use it. And I think that's fair.

And I question your questioning. If one's fair then so it the other. So, lets drop the victim mentality shall we.

 

The difference is that I am not saying those that use it or "evil".

Porn means degradation to you, men enjoy porn, therefore men support the degradation of women in your eyes. This is one of your pet beliefs. Now, lets get this right! Men support the degradation of women. Men support the degradation of women. How many times do I need to say this? What message does this portray? Who the heck would like men if this is one of their core beliefs??

 

The implications towards men are crystal clear as is the implications towards those that truly believe this.

 

But I am not going to pretend they are perfect either. That's your own mentality.

My mentality is similar to many. I can keep things in context. I know that porn can be problematic and have stated as much on many occasions. But how big a problem it is depends on the individuals involved, not on everyone who uses it.

 

Since you directly said you were offended, I am going to take your word that you were and are offended. Unless you say things you don't really mean. Which is it?

Quote please.

 

For sure. What does that have to do with how men objectfy women I have no idea accept it's an attempt at deflection, again, in addresing the topic.

The sub-topic here is objectivity. I'm just giving you the other side of the coin. If there's deflection going on here then I suggest that you simply look in the mirror.

 

Actually I do need to say as much. If you are going to try to attach meanings to things I never said, yuo better be able to back it up.

No you don't otherwise words like 'infer' and 'implicate' would never had been invented. The implications are crystal clear. Most of us know this including you. Feigning ignorance fools no one.

 

 

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[Jersey Shortie]

Because u claim porns making women do all these crazy things in bed as if women just want to stay in ther missionary positon and thats it but porns forced thme to try different things they dont wanna do..

 

No. I never made such a claim! Do you even read what I write?? What I did say is that porn has changed the perceptions of both men and women about what sexuality should be and is and what women should do or women should look to meet a male standard. That's a realty that people don't want to admit! People don't like the reflection that they've let something like porn change their expectations but the reality is we have!

 

I like giving and getting oral, that doesn't mean that just because oral is depicted in porn that A) I am not allowed to like it. B) it's not infact at times degrading to women on how it's protrayed and C) that I think women only want or should do missionary.

 

 

AO:

And I question your questioning. If one's fair then so it the other. So, lets drop the victim mentality shall we

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It's totally fair for you to questoin but don't sit there and act like your opinion is fact. AO, again, where am I playing victim? I am defending myself and calling porn out for what it is. A medium that is over objectfying, stereotyping and degrading to women.

 

Porn means degradation to you, men enjoy porn, therefore men support the degradation of women in your eyes. This is one of your pet beliefs.

 

Porn means degradation to alot of people, men included. Men do enjoy porn, and yes therefore I do think there are aspects of men that totally support the degradation of women. This is my belief. If you want to be childish enough to try and deminish it by throwing out "pet beliefs", that says more about you then me.

 

 

The implications towards men are crystal clear as is the implications towards those that truly believe this.

 

And the implications towards women in porn are crystal clear. But you are less concerned with these aspects and more concerned with men being called out for supporing a meduim that often calls women four letter names and is all about hardcore sexual acts and how a woman looks. How come you never want to discuss those aspects? I think we both know why you avoid directly addressing those points. Your implications towards women are crystal clear. You want to harp on me because I question the amount of respect men have for women due to supporting a medium that most of the population would admit is degrading to women and yet you iroincally are annoyed at what you preceive are negative comments about men. Yet you have yet once to address the negavtive repenstations of women in porn.

 

No you don't otherwise words like 'infer' and 'implicate' would never had been invented. The implications are crystal clear. Most of us know this including you. Feigning ignorance fools no one.

 

I'll repeat, if you are going to accuse me of infering things I never did, be prepared to qoute exactly withere this inferance is. Several other women here have also asked you to show proof of this "hate" and you have yet to produce any. Despite the fact that I post quite regularly on this topic. YOu'd think you could find something pretty easily if what you say I am saying is 1/10th true.

[A O]

It's totally fair for you to questoin but don't sit there and act like your opinion is fact. AO, again, where am I playing victim?

I'll introduce the term 'fact' when I'm indeed talking fact. I suggest that you do the same. As for playing victim. When you take examination of your own views and behavior personally, then you set yourself up to be a victim. And that's despite the fact that most of your views are your own 'personal' beliefs. The two - the subject matter and your interpretations of them - can't be separated. But when it suits you, you'll attempt to try in order to paint yourself as being set upon, as being the victim and people like me, the big bad wolf. Your questioning is raw and biting you say, and yet you take great exception to the same behavior been shown back towards you.

 

I am defending myself and calling porn out for what it is. A medium that is over objectfying, stereotyping and degrading to women.

You're calling porn out for what you 'think' it is. You take the lowest common denominator, the dysfunctional aspects of it and these types of users as well, and spin this into the majority behavior for all. That's your problem, said in a different way, yet again.

 

Men do enjoy porn, and yes therefore I do think there are aspects of men that totally support the degradation of women. This is my belief.

'Aspects' is good, the more qualifiers you use the less you'll hear from me.

 

And the implications towards women in porn are crystal clear. But you are less concerned with these aspects and more concerned with men being called out for supporing a meduim that often calls women four letter names and is all about hardcore sexual acts and how a woman looks.

Wrong. I am concerned about getting things right. And that means demonizing the aspects of porn and certain types of users when and where it rightfully applies and simply letting every other aspect and everyone else be.

 

How come you never want to discuss those aspects?

I do. You just don't notice it.

 

I'll repeat, if you are going to accuse me of infering things I never did, be prepared to qoute exactly withere this inferance is. Several other women here have also asked you to show proof of this "hate" and you have yet to produce any.

Its funny isn't it. I've already done it yet it flew right over your head. You're far to immune to your own behavior to ever understand what you do. But that doesn't matter because many people fully understand what you are.

 

 

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[dreamingoftigers]

It became mainstream back in the 70's. You know, when everyone was coked up and cracked out.

 

 

How can you say pornography crosses the monogamy line? Seriously? Since when does my dick entering another girl's vagina equal a digital image portraying two people having sex? Are you serious? What is this, the feminist soviet union?

 

I was genuinely asking, there was no need for sarcasm. When I think of monogamy it is being emotionally and sexually united. I think in a society where it is possible to have an "emotional affair" and kissing is considered cheating that porn hits closer to home on that spectrum. Porn is overtly more sexual and imho sex is something to be shared between two people in a steady relationship, not something that gets split up between the computer and the SO. It's not an attack on anyone, I don't think that women watching porn is anymore acceptable.

[Ruby Slippers]

And if digital images don't amount to cheating, how would you feel about your woman posting nudies of herself online? It's just pixels, right?

[sweetjasmine]

And if digital images don't amount to cheating, how would you feel about your woman posting nudies of herself online? It's just pixels, right?

 

Yeah, and how would most people feel about finding a picture or video of their daughter on a porn site?

[Ruby Slippers]

Yeah, and how would most people feel about finding a picture or video of their daughter on a porn site?

Yes. sweetjasmine, you always have something smart to say.

 

Men, how would you like to see a video of your sister or cousin or daughter turn up in your porn rotation?

 

Would it then still be harmless, and a healthy outlet, and nothing to get one's undies in a twist about?

 

(I'm not really expecting a real answer, as men will never actually answer this question.)

[Woggle]

If that is what they enjoyed doing why not. Nobody puts a gun to a woman's head and makes her do porn. There are some women who actually do enjoy exhibitionism and there is nothing wrong with that. It boggles my mind how feminists proclaim to be liberal and leftwing but turn into uptight conservatives when this issue comes up.

[sweetjasmine]

If that is what they enjoyed doing why not. Nobody puts a gun to a woman's head and makes her do porn. There are some women who actually do enjoy exhibitionism and there is nothing wrong with that. It boggles my mind how feminists proclaim to be liberal and leftwing but turn into uptight conservatives when this issue comes up.

 

Just to be clear, I don't think viewing porn is cheating or immoral, but I do think it can have some negative effects on its viewers and I do think that the industry is pretty terrible for the actors, both male and female.

 

But my point is: it's not just pixels on a screen. There are people on either side of that screen. The viewer and the actors are actual human beings, and it's absurd to think that none of this affects them.

 

And I think a lot of people would be at least a little put off by the thought of millions of people jerking it to a photo/video of their daughter. Because they view their daughter as a person, not just an image to jerk off to and then discard.

[Woggle]

Just to be clear, I don't think viewing porn is cheating or immoral, but I do think it can have some negative effects on its viewers and I do think that the industry is pretty terrible for the actors, both male and female.

 

But my point is: it's not just pixels on a screen. There are people on either side of that screen. The viewer and the actors are actual human beings, and it's absurd to think that none of this affects them.

 

And I think a lot of people would be at least a little put off by the thought of millions of people jerking it to a photo/video of their daughter. Because they view their daughter as a person, not just an image to jerk off to and then discard.

 

I view it as an honest living like anything else. People have to pay the bills and like I said some women genuinely do enjoy it. If not then why do you have famous women who certainly do not need the money posing in Playboy?

 

I agree that some porn crosses the line and I do not support anything that promotes violence and I certainly do not support kiddie porn but people like JS have this idea that any type of sexually stimulating entertainment is somehow the cause of all problems between men and women today and that is absurd.

[ComeUndone]

I view it as an honest living like anything else. People have to pay the bills and like I said some women genuinely do enjoy it. If not then why do you have famous women who certainly do not need the money posing in Playboy?

 

For exposure, for shock value.

[A O]

And if digital images don't amount to cheating, how would you feel about your woman posting nudies of herself online? It's just pixels, right?

I wouldn't be happy. And she wouldn't be happy if I did the same. Thankfully, she doesn't equate porn use to cheating.

 

Tell me, do you or any of the others that feel this way - do you dress to impress, look the part, while not in the company of your SO? Do any of you do this? And more importantly, does your other half object? Do they feel for instance, that looking good is something to be done only in their presence? I ask this because their are no doubts some men out there with similar views to yours, only from a male to female perspective rather than vice versa. These men have a belief that looking attractive equals seeking attention and that is akin to cheating, if done for anyone other than them. I ask you, I ask you all - do you have men like this, and if not - what would you all do if you did?

 

Men, how would you like to see a video of your sister or cousin or daughter turn up in your porn rotation?

These things happen, that's life.

 

Would it then still be harmless, and a healthy outlet, and nothing to get one's undies in a twist about?

If they're of adult age, then all you can do in this situation is treat them with respect. Communicate whatever feelings you might have, and let them do the same, but at the end of the day - its their choice and we need to respect that. If they're not of adult age, then heading towards porn is a symptom of a far greater problem. One, that at that stage, is probably out of the hands of the parents, parent or guardian, if indeed, they even cared in the first place.

 

 

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[Jersey Shortie]

The majority of men would not like for their wife/gf or daughter to become masturbation foder for another man. Why? Because they would consider both disrespectful to her and to *him*. I have no doubt in my mind that most men do infact understand the objectifcation of women in porn. The stereotypes. the demeaning depictions. Sadly, their desire to masturbate overides directly addressing and being honest about these points. Instead they hide behind comments that are completely meaningless such as "but she chooses to be in porn". No one said any differently! But most women aren't choosing to be in porn and most men are choosing to look. Or the ever popular: "they are just images on a screen". If they are *just* images on a screen that a man holds to an expectations that a woman shouldn't react to, then why does he react to himself by masturbating or enjoying the images? If they are *just* images on a screen, you think most men could easily live without and wouldn't defend it like they do.

 

And Ruby, I agree with you that SweetJasmine always does have something smart to say!

[silic0ntoad]

@ A O - No reason to continue arguing with JS on this subject. She claims I ignore her arguments, when in fact it's the exact opposite. She tries to use shaming tactics and victim mentality to brush aside the actualy empyrical data I've posted as proof of my claims, yet she has garnished none at all.

 

@ JS- you know, debating is back and forth. I've given, and taken, yet you try to disarm us with the same slanderous, shaming, despicable debate tactics. You attempt to persuade others to your personal war against porn without any documentation to be provided that back up your outlandish, outrageous, and downright men bashing claims.

 

Since you have decided to ignore almost all parts of my arguments in favor for continuing your slurfest, I will decist to argue with you on this subject until you've provided actual proof that your claims of pubsecent male porn viewing teaches men to degrade women, that degredation of women outside the porn industry is on the rise in the general public, that white males aren't ever degraded in porn (which I've already disproved, so have fun with that), that women are the subjects and victims of this male dominant evil shadow society of higher ups that seek to destroy female sexuality (which, unsurprisingly even you, have confirmed is alot more submissive then male sexuality, so your entire point is moot either way) and that children are much more likely to treat other adults of either sex in a manner as dictated by porn use.

 

Once you've provided that I'll give creedence to your arguments. Until then, I'll just take it for what it is; a girl who has been hurt by porn use, hates it because while it depicts things she likes to act out herself, she can't stand that men watch it more then they watch her.

 

On the note of a GF, friend, sister, etc being in my porn rotation, I'd probably laugh and then talk to them about it. To me it's simply a career choice.

[espec10001]

The majority of men would not like for their wife/gf or daughter to become masturbation foder for another man. Why? Because they would consider both disrespectful to her and to *him*. I have no doubt in my mind that most men do infact understand the objectifcation of women in porn. The stereotypes. the demeaning depictions. Sadly, their desire to masturbate overides directly addressing and being honest about these points. Instead they hide behind comments that are completely meaningless such as "but she chooses to be in porn". No one said any differently! But most women aren't choosing to be in porn and most men are choosing to look. Or the ever popular: "they are just images on a screen". If they are *just* images on a screen that a man holds to an expectations that a woman shouldn't react to, then why does he react to himself by masturbating or enjoying the images? If they are *just* images on a screen, you think most men could easily live without and wouldn't defend it like they do.

 

And Ruby, I agree with you that SweetJasmine always does have something smart to say!

 

Oh come on. No one is forcing some girl online to do porn or get naked. The girls do it cause its FUN. That's what girls do, they really are bad and enjoy being bad, it's the thrill. Most girls I know the more you get to know them, the more you realize that girls get kicks out of doing things they shouldn't be doing cause its FUN.

 

It's fun getting attention from lots of guys, it makes them feel special. But when they don't get it they start to doll themselves up more so that they do get attention. Attention is the life-blood of women. That's why they fight like cats between each other because they despise whoever is getting more attention than them.

[silic0ntoad]

Oh come on. No one is forcing some girl online to do porn or get naked. The girls do it cause its FUN. That's what girls do, they really are bad and enjoy being bad, it's the thrill. Most girls I know the more you get to know them, the more you realize that girls get kicks out of doing things they shouldn't be doing cause its FUN.

 

It's fun getting attention from lots of guys, it makes them feel special. But when they don't get it they start to doll themselves up more so that they do get attention. Attention is the life-blood of women. That's why they fight like cats between each other because they despise whoever is getting more attention than them.

 

 

 

oWned. o.O

[sweetjasmine]

The girls do it cause its FUN. [...] It's fun getting attention from lots of guys, it makes them feel special.

 

So female porn actresses think it's fun to get pounded by the same 12 inch dong for 6 hours straight with no lube or protection (want to use a condom? no job for you! - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1892037/) in an industry where people have caught HIV/AIDS and other STDs? Where just about everyone has herpes?

 

And you're telling me you've never heard of the abuse and coercion people undergo in the porn industry?

 

Go youtube Jersey Jaxin and why she quit porn. Here's some of what she had to say:

“You may see a 45-minute set that took us 13 hours. …We’re ripped, we’re tired, we’re sored, we’re bleeding, we’re cut up, we have dried semen all over our faces from numerous guys and we can’t wash it off because they want to take pictures. You have this stuff all over you and they’re telling you, ‘Hold it!’”

 

[...]

 

"Seventy five percent and rising. Have to numb themselves... There are specific doctors in this industry if you go in for a common cold, they'll give you vicodin, viagra, anything you want because all they care about is money. You are a number. You're bruised. You have black eyes. You're ripped. You're torn. You have your insides coming out of you. It's not pretty and foofoo on set. You get hurt."

 

Doesn't sound like she was having too much fun.

 

And Elizabeth Rollings:

“I did about 40 movies, 20+ web sites, including my own web site. I got requests for fetish films and finally did a 25 guy movies after getting pressured by porn producers. I never thought I would have done something like that. I felt disgusted and violated, but what was I going to do? I had three children and I desperately needed the money.

 

For two days I fasted and I drank heavily one day prior before I did the movie. I wanted to turn and run when I saw all the male porn stars and crew standing there. I kept saying to myself, ‘this is going to be over in an hour’. I wanted to break down and cry but I hid behind my fake smile. During the movie I mentally and emotionally checked out and felt like I died. After it ended everyone wanted to take pictures with me and get my autograph. Here I am standing there with bodily fluids all over me and people wanted to take pictures.

 

My body was sore the next couple days and I wasn’t right mentally for two weeks after that. I wasn’t able to use the bathroom right either. My internal system was totally messed up.”

 

Jenna Jameson:

"Most girls get their first experience in gonzo films -- in which they're taken to a crappy studio apartment in Mission Hills and penetrated in every hole possible by some abusive a**hole who thinks her name is Bit***. And these girls, some of whom have the potential to become major stars in the industry, go home afterward and pledge never to do it again because it was such a terrible experience."

 

“While I was waiting for my first sex scene, my co-star, a gentleman I had never met before named Arnold Biltmore, sat next to me. He had a soft, pasty body; a porous, greasy complexion; and a kindergarten haircut, parted in the middle and combed to either side. Nothing about Arnold Biltmore turned me on. And in ten minutes I was supposed to have sex with him. When our scene started, he tried to kiss me. I turned my head away from the camera, so that no one could see me grimace…. As my head kept bumping into his stomach while I gave him head, all I could think was, ‘What the hell am I doing here? This is disgusting.’ A bead of sweat on Arnold’s forehead…swelled and grew until it turned into a bubble, and then slowly pried itself free of his forehead…. When it smacked me between the eye, it flipped a switch in my head. ‘I’m done,’ I though. ‘I can’t do this anymore.’”

 

“In a worst-case scenario, a gonzo director will take a girl to a hotel room and have their friends shoot a cheap scene in which she is humiliated in every orifice possible. She walks home with three thousand dollars, bowed legs, and a terrible impression of the industry. It’ll be her first and last movie, and she’ll regret it – to her dying day.

 

In other scenarios, she’ll work for two weeks until she’s only getting paid seven hundred dollars a scene and then, finally, no one wants to use her anymore. So she’ll agree to do double penetration or drink the sperm of twelve guys just to stay working.”

 

Sierra Sinn:

"My first scene was one of the worst experiences of my life. It was very scary. It was a very rough scene. My agent didn't let me know ahead of time... I did it and I was crying and they didn't stop. It was really violent. He was hitting me. It hurt. It scared me more than anything. They wouldn't stop. They just kept rolling."

 

Sounds like a really good time.

 

Honestly, I'm a little surprised that some of you guys are so tied up in the fantasy that you actually believe the acting.

Edited May 6, 2010 by sweetjasmine