When did Curvy Start meaning Fat?

[marsle85]

Really ? you think girls who work out every day have Jiggly asses ?

If so I would think 99.9 percent of guys would be glad to get their hands on that jiggle.

 

Absolutely, I'm just saying you can't have all that curve and no jiggle.

[reddog4321]

Christina Hendricks is in fact curvy in contrast to what a previous poster mentioned. Or at least to me. My definition of curvy would be an accentuated hourglass or pear shape but note that the shape must be very apparent. Absolute weight is less important as long as the sexy curves are there. Rolls of fat hanging around the abs, beer guts, and "back boobs" do not cut it as curvy. Yes I supposed fat rolls curve but they are certainly not attractive (on women or men). I find it very disappointing that obese women have latched onto the "curvy" term in order the feel better about themselves. They would be better off dieting and exercising appropriately rather than just coming up with a palatable word for their obesity. Hollywood does set a false standard for women, however by and large, here in america significant numbers of people are obese. And just throwing in the towel and trying to call obesity "normal" or "curvy" or "full-figured" is disingenuous (especially to themselves) and takes away from someone like Christina Hendricks who is genuinely curvy.

[ecto-1]

when people bought into the media and advertising pitch that women must weight under 110 pounds and wear a size 4 and under in clothing ... Stick-thin chickies with skeletal figures are in, with fake honking breasts a HUGE plus.

 

I sincerely believe that a thin woman with great round shapely perky breasts and wide hips and big butt looks better and more curvy

 

you must be under the age of 35 to have that kind of definition; as Carhill points out, women like Jayne Mansfield and Marilyn Monroe were absolute sex-bombs in their day, and fit my definition of curvy.

 

 

Yeah, some women don't consider their Waistline Measurment is required to be SMALLER than the breasts and hip measurements into the factor...yet still call themselves curvy

 

Well, actually it's curving OUTward...so techinically that IS curvy LOL

[ecto-1]

I just don't think heavy women are actualy that curvy... their breasts and a$$ have poor shape to them and they often have big guts.

 

Fat women find all skinny women anorexic its hilarious that they don't seem to understand how eating healthy can make some one look good. They have to blame it on anorexia haha

 

 

Yeah, there was this woman that wanted to introduce me to her roomate, and she was asking me what "type" of woman I like ...physically....and I described it, and she says, "Oh, you like the skinny minnies"

 

That means her roomate was morbidly obese, and yep....she was indeed that. LOL

 

It's also funny, how online back in the 90's where people didn't have pictures up as much, and you tried to get a woman to describe her figure....or it's OVER if you try to get an ideaof how much she weighs by asking her weight.

 

RUdest question ever. LOL

[reddog4321]

Yeah, some women don't consider their Waistline Measurment is required to be SMALLER than the breasts and hip measurements into the factor...yet still call themselves curvy

 

Well, actually it's curving OUTward...so techinically that IS curvy LOL

 

Exactly! Seems like if any part of their body has a curve to it, then "hey I'm curvy". Of course this would apply to every single human being on planet as we all have some type of curve somewhere on our body. Wow I have a huge beer belly that curves, so I'm not obese, I'm curvy, yeah!

[ecto-1]

Exactly! Seems like if any part of their body has a curve to it, then "hey I'm curvy". Of course this would apply to every single human being on planet as we all have some type of curve somewhere on our body. Wow I have a huge beer belly that curves, so I'm not obese, I'm curvy, yeah!

 

 

LOL>..."My elbow has a curve to it when I bend it!"

[Fay]

For a long time I could not figure out what curvy meant and than I realized curvy = fat . Beyonce is curvy but not fat. Most women who describe themselves as curvy today are FAT. End of story.It seems most web sites have "a few extra lbs" and "curvy".

 

From my observation, average today = fat as well.

 

So you have the following:

 

average = fat

curvy = even fatter

a few extra lbs = fatter than curvy

over weight = huge

 

 

Well, I describe myself as curvy and so do some of the men I date, except we mean it in the honest sense, i.e. hourglass figure - larger breasts, narrow waist, wider hips. My BMI is 20, nowhere near "thick" or "chunky" or any sort of extra weight. So yes, the whole "curvy=fat" thing pisses me off. And the greatest irony is that overweight women tend to not be very hourglass-shaped at all. Their weight often goes to their midsection equally so that they become shaped like a large block. So you get this refrigerator-shaped person claiming to be curvy, and I'm like, "No, that's a square."

 

OH! Another one! "Voluptuous". It used to mean "sensuous". How it came to be a euphemism for large I'll never know.

[reddog4321]

For a long time I could not figure out what curvy meant and than I realized curvy = fat . Beyonce is curvy but not fat. Most women who describe themselves as curvy today are FAT. End of story.It seems most web sites have "a few extra lbs" and "curvy".

 

From my observation, average today = fat as well.

 

So you have the following:

 

average = fat

curvy = even fatter

a few extra lbs = fatter than curvy

over weight = huge

 

That is hilarious tincanmann but sadly it is spot on. We need some new definitions, although I'm sure in time, as people become ever more obese, fat people will invade those as well. I wonder how long it will be before skinny = "I'm skinny under this fat..." or athletic = "I have good muscle under my obesity somewhere"

[Fay]

I wonder how long it will be before skinny = "I'm skinny under this fat..." or athletic = "I have good muscle under my obesity somewhere"

 

On the dating site I use, "thin" seems to mean "no more than 10 pounds overweight", and yes, plenty of fat guys call themselves athletic on there just because they have biceps.

[Shakz]

Gimmee skinny, gimmee curvy, gimmee fat. It's all good.

[reddog4321]

On the dating site I use, "thin" seems to mean "no more than 10 pounds overweight", and yes, plenty of fat guys call themselves athletic on there just because they have biceps.

 

I do not doubt that for a second. I can see where a guy works out with weights, probably those types I see in the gym all the time who do nothing but chest and biceps work, and thinks he is "athletic" but sports a big gut and pencil legs to go with it.

 

But really men have it worse. At least women are able to do something about the one key physical factor men look at, even if they don't have the willpower to get into a normal physical condition. The key physical factor that women look for in men is height, and there is nothing a guy can do about that except lie or wear boots ;-)

Edited June 24, 2010 by reddog4321
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[Fay]

The key physical factor that women look for in men is height, and there is nothing a guy can do about that except lie or wear boots ;-)

 

Prepare to have your mind blown.

 

Surgery to increase height

 

[reddog4321]

Actually I have read about that before but if you read the fact you need a wheelchair for a year, will be in severe pain, and have potentially permanently crippling complications, it hardly seems worth. I'm 5'9" and am sure I get turned down online for not being >= 6', probably for that reason more than any others (guessing). But I'll make do with who I am in this case

[Green]

 

Well, I describe myself as curvy and so do some of the men I date, except we mean it in the honest sense, i.e. hourglass figure - larger breasts, narrow waist, wider hips. My BMI is 20, nowhere near "thick" or "chunky" or any sort of extra weight. So yes, the whole "curvy=fat" thing pisses me off. And the greatest irony is that overweight women tend to not be very hourglass-shaped at all. Their weight often goes to their midsection equally so that they become shaped like a large block. So you get this refrigerator-shaped person claiming to be curvy, and I'm like, "No, that's a square."

 

OH! Another one! "Voluptuous". It used to mean "sensuous". How it came to be a euphemism for large I'll never know.

 

Seriously these days its sad that anything used to describe a beautiful woman is alos used by FAT 200lb women to describe themselves.

[Green]

Actually I have read about that before but if you read the fact you need a wheelchair for a year, will be in severe pain, and have potentially permanently crippling complications, it hardly seems worth. I'm 5'9" and am sure I get turned down online for not being >= 6', probably for that reason more than any others (guessing). But I'll make do with who I am in this case

 

yeah online dating sucks for the most part

[alphamale]

yeah online dating sucks for the most part

i second that emotion

[ecto-1]

Was looking around for this thread and found it...lol

 

I actually had a woman on POF that said she was "athletic" and when I saw her in person she was fat.

 

Yeah, figure that one out.

[kiss_andmakeup]

Was looking around for this thread and found it...lol

 

I actually had a woman on POF that said she was "athletic" and when I saw her in person she was fat.

 

Yeah, figure that one out.

 

Men are notorious for this! I think the men's "athletic" is the equivalent of the woman's "curvy."

 

Women: Hey, there are some curves under there!

Men: Hey, there's some muscle under there!

[reddog4321]

Men are notorious for this! I think the men's "athletic" is the equivalent of the woman's "curvy."

 

Women: Hey, there are some curves under there!

Men: Hey, there's some muscle under there!

 

The dating site owners would never do this but they should just get rid of the ambiguous and vague body descriptions and just have a % bodyfat. It is a good metric for people to know about themselves. You can't measure it yourself or at gym very accurately but you can get good approximations that would fit you into one of the below bands:

 

Description----Women----Men

Essential fat---10-13%---2-5%------bodybuilder/marithoner

Athletes--------14–20%---6-13%----six pack abs

Fitness----------21–24%--14–17%---look pretty good

Average--------25–31%---18–24%---some fat

Obese----------32%+-------25%+----rolls o' fat

 

from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_fat_percentage

 

BMI is actually not a good measurement by the way as it will place lean & muscular people in the obese range since it only cares about height vs. weight.

 

Note that from this particular chart, men have it much worse:eek: I guess acceptable fat is higher for women because of the boobs:laugh:

 

Not the most creative way to describe yourself but at least it is more honest and less open to completely creative interpretation like being fat but describing yourself as athletic because you go to the gym and do bicep curls or squeeze your grip strengthener while you are on the couch drinking your beer watching football. And, like I said, it would be healthy for people to know this about themselves.

 

The feminist movements of BBW, "fat is beautiful", and "love yourself for who you are" I suppose serve a good purpose for self esteem and maybe this is why curvy became hijacked. But given the obesity epidemic (estimated that by 2018, obesity with consume 25% of all healthcare costs and cost the US pop close to $400B annual!!!) this may be the wrong message.

Edited June 25, 2010 by reddog4321
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[AngryTroll]

Yeah bud, beyonce is thick, and thick is where it's at.

 

Have you ever seen Beyonce in person? She's quite slim and curvy, she's not thick.

Fat women call themselves "curvy" because they feel bad about admitting that they're fat. On a dating site, "curvy" sounds better than "fat" anyway!

 

I think of myself as curvy, but I have a US size six waist and I curve outwards by several inches around the hips. Men keep telling me I'm not curvy, I'm slim - so I guess the accepted definition of curvy=fat.

 

While many fat women do in fact do this, you can be fat and still have curves. I'm not saying 250 5'1 and curvy, but you can easily be a size 4 with curves and a size 16 with curves.

[AngryTroll]

Was looking around for this thread and found it...lol

 

I actually had a woman on POF that said she was "athletic" and when I saw her in person she was fat.

 

Yeah, figure that one out.

 

Didn't she have full body pics?

 

 

Well, I describe myself as curvy and so do some of the men I date, except we mean it in the honest sense, i.e. hourglass figure - larger breasts, narrow waist, wider hips. My BMI is 20, nowhere near "thick" or "chunky" or any sort of extra weight. So yes, the whole "curvy=fat" thing pisses me off. And the greatest irony is that overweight women tend to not be very hourglass-shaped at all. Their weight often goes to their midsection equally so that they become shaped like a large block. So you get this refrigerator-shaped person claiming to be curvy, and I'm like, "No, that's a square."

 

OH! Another one! "Voluptuous". It used to mean "sensuous". How it cam

e to be a euphemism for large I'll never know.

The whole hourglass thing depends purely on body shape. You cannot say that overweight women tend to not me hourglass shaped. Many slim to average women can have the same body type as a fat woman. I'm a fat size 12/14 with big breasts, a smaller waists and wide hips, do I not have curves?

 

And I'm with you with the whole 'voluptuous' thing, I never understood that.

[AngryTroll]

So? I was watching her on television, and her body looks exactly like that.

 

Here's curvy

 

http://blogs.bet.com/ontv/thedeal/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/nickiminaj1.jpg

 

 

LOL she does not really like that. She actually has a ruler shaped body and is slim. I think it's the clothes, the booty pads that make her look that way

http://bossip.com/165373/nicki-minaj-plastic-surgery-certified-banger/nikki-bet/

[ecto-1]

Obviously this Obese person couldn't ride the HARRY POTTER ride because the saftey restraint couldn't fit over his 5'8", 256 torso.

 

He went home and whined about it on his BLOG, the article acknowledges the stunning amount of the rate of obesity in America.

Edited June 26, 2010 by ecto-1

[Chocolat]

The dating site owners would never do this but they should just get rid of the ambiguous and vague body descriptions and just have a % bodyfat. It is a good metric for people to know about themselves. You can't measure it yourself or at gym very accurately but you can get good approximations that would fit you into one of the below bands:

 

Description----Women----Men

Essential fat---10-13%---2-5%------bodybuilder/marithoner

Athletes--------14–20%---6-13%----six pack abs

Fitness----------21–24%--14–17%---look pretty good

Average--------25–31%---18–24%---some fat

Obese----------32%+-------25%+----rolls o' fat

 

from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_fat_percentage

 

BMI is actually not a good measurement by the way as it will place lean & muscular people in the obese range since it only cares about height vs. weight.

 

Note that from this particular chart, men have it much worse:eek: I guess acceptable fat is higher for women because of the boobs:laugh:

 

 

The problem with this method is that a person can have a high bodyfat percentage and still be average or even under-weight. Lots of thin women fall into this category -- they have no muscle mass (tone) to speak of, but they are not over-weight.

 

BTW, women need more bodyfat to support life (pregnancy). A woman at 11% will look a lean as a man at 5%, though.

 

I think curvy = fat came about as a way to marginalize women who are not fat. It seems to me that the false dichotomy presented on these boards and elsewhere is that a woman either has curves or she is a skinny stick. There is little room (or so it seems) for women who are both slim but have nice curves.

[reddog4321]

Didn't she have full body pics?

 

The whole hourglass thing depends purely on body shape. You cannot say that overweight women tend to not me hourglass shaped. Many slim to average women can have the same body type as a fat woman. I'm a fat size 12/14 with big breasts, a smaller waists and wide hips, do I not have curves?

 

And I'm with you with the whole 'voluptuous' thing, I never understood that.

 

That is the definition of curvy. It is a shape and not a size/weight designation. I've seen many very attractive but larger women (like >160 lbs) who have a small waist compared to their breast and hip sizes. And that is probably their "natural" weight even if they carry some subcutaneous fat (not belly fat). I think the point of the prior poster is that many heavier women are not at their natural weight, they have a large amount of belly fat (which is a poor health/high risk indicator!), their mid section becomes as large or larger than breasts and hips and therefore they are not 'curvy' in this definition of curvy that we are proposing. They are simple overweight or even obese and inappropriately taking the curvy description.

 

The sad thing is that people should be doing something about it when they have a lot of belly fat, they should not be tyring to come up with a sexy label for it so they can live with it better. It is actually very easy and painless to lose weight if you know what you are doing. But you do have to have some willpower and I think that may be the missing ingredient.