theBrokenMuse Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Ok this is an entirly different issue yes 400lbs plus people often have serious brain problems not to mention health concerns (like that can't really walk at all or very little) but I think women stop being attractive far before major health concerns and mental problems. Like a 160 lbs women has probably zero chance at being HOtt I was responding to what dreamingoftigers had written about as far as reasons behind a lack of energy in larger people. As far as what's hot about a chick..eh. I'm sure there's guys that'll go for a 160 lbs woman and ones who won't but there's no need to go another round in that particular direction again so I'll just leave it at that. Honestly, I wouldn't want a guy who would just like me for my body anyway which is why I have never and would never date a guy who dates only fat chicks. So, in a way I am kind of glad to not have the burden the gorgeous ones do trying to discern who likes you for who you are as a person and who likes you just because of the way you look. A small silver lining for me I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Green Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 I honestly don't know where you're finding all of those "fatties". Are you visiting fast- food joints? Are you speaking of older women, in their 40's? You know, giving birth kinda makes some women bloat out. Are you expecting women to stay beautiful and thin until the day we die? Are you going to keep your hair, teeth and belly as you grow older? Or you're going to kill yourself when you are(as you say you are) no longer "conventionally attractive?" No but I'm in my twenties and date people my age or younger and don't plan on dating some one missing teeth or a body that looks normal because of their own doing. Don't take this personally El, I actually enjoy your posting. I just have to point a few things out. First, if I recall correctly, he said "taller than 6' 2" so there's that. Second, BMI completely falls apart for people who deviate significantly from the average height. The core issue is that volume (and weight) increase with the cube whereas height is a linear dimension, and the BMI formula doesn't do the math appropriately for that. If you read up on it you will see that for very short people, BMI makes them look healthy when they can be quite chubby and for very tall people a relatively slim person will rank as "overweight". I think BMI is an interesting and useful number but it has to be combined with other factors. In the end for me its more about the way people look I'm just using weights and heights for the purpose of this conversation. I realise a girl 5'5 and 135 can look and be shaped completely different from another girl with those same dimensions. I am over 6'2 and I am not fat. But even if I was and do get fat it wouldn't change how I feel. I was responding to what dreamingoftigers had written about as far as reasons behind a lack of energy in larger people. As far as what's hot about a chick..eh. I'm sure there's guys that'll go for a 160 lbs woman and ones who won't but there's no need to go another round in that particular direction again so I'll just leave it at that. Honestly, I wouldn't want a guy who would just like me for my body anyway which is why I have never and would never date a guy who dates only fat chicks. So, in a way I am kind of glad to not have the burden the gorgeous ones do trying to discern who likes you for who you are as a person and who likes you just because of the way you look. A small silver lining for me I suppose. A guy who dates fat women isn't any more into that woman for who she really is then a guy who dates an attractive women. To think that guys who date fat women are deep while guys who date hot women are shallow would be a silly mistake but you have every reason to make that mistake. Link to post Share on other sites
112233 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Honestly, I wouldn't want a guy who would just like me for my body anyway which is why I have never and would never date a guy who dates only fat chicks. Well as you note, it's an issue for the women, not foe me. I have a sort of similar issue, I try to hide my income if I'm interested in them for the long haul, but I don't know many pretty girls who intentionally try to look unattractive. Odd, never thought about that before. Link to post Share on other sites
112233 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 In the end for me its more about the way people look I'm just using weights and heights for the purpose of this conversation. I realise a girl 5'5 and 135 can look and be shaped completely different from another girl with those same dimensions. I agree, my GF is just under 5' 2 and when we met she was about 85 pounds, which sounds really skinny but she's just a tiny little thing, tiny wrists, tiny waist, and while she's "only" a generous B cup, on her tiny body that looks really good. When we go shopping she has to find size 00, because zero is usually way big. Link to post Share on other sites
theBrokenMuse Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 A guy who dates fat women isn't any more into that woman for who she really is then a guy who dates an attractive women. To think that guys who date fat women are deep while guys who date hot women are shallow would be a silly mistake but you have every reason to make that mistake. What I was trying to say was I would never date a guy who ONLY liked fat chicks (was only attracted to that body type) because I wouldn't want to roll the dice on a man who may value my body over whom I am as a person. I do not think that guys who date fat chicks are 'really deep' nor was it implied, it was the opposite. Link to post Share on other sites
112233 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 What I was trying to say was I would never date a guy who ONLY liked fat chicks (was only attracted to that body type) because I wouldn't want to roll the dice on a man who may value my body over whom I am as a person. I do not think that guys who date fat chicks are 'really deep' nor was it implied, it was the opposite. Green can't seem to read or write very well, but that doesn't make him automatically wrong on everything. I do wonder what his degree is in and where he went to school. Link to post Share on other sites
theBrokenMuse Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 (edited) I have a sort of similar issue, I try to hide my income if I'm interested in them for the long haul Smart move. but I don't know many pretty girls who intentionally try to look unattractive.My guess is it's because you feel you can catch a decent partner without it while so many women have their self-worth so interwoven with their appearance that they may not still think they were of value to others without their appearance but then again, I am an odd, odd duck and what do I know. I could be totally out in left field about the whole thing. Edited November 15, 2010 by theBrokenMuse Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Green can't seem to read or write very well, but that doesn't make him automatically wrong on everything. I do wonder what his degree is in and where he went to school. I have often wondered this as well. His writing skills and ability to spell even simple words (or use spellcheck) does not make him appear to have a college education, or a high school education, for that matter. Link to post Share on other sites
NoLongerSad Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I have often wondered this as well. His writing skills and ability to spell even simple words (or use spellcheck) does not make him appear to have a college education, or a high school education, for that matter. So you are saying only the uneducated prefer sexy women? Where does that leave us smart people, stuck with all the "fatties"? Link to post Share on other sites
NoLongerSad Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 What I was trying to say was I would never date a guy who ONLY liked fat chicks (was only attracted to that body type) because I wouldn't want to roll the dice on a man who may value my body over whom I am as a person. I do not think that guys who date fat chicks are 'really deep' nor was it implied, it was the opposite. Wait a second, brokenmuse, are you saying YOU consider yourself a "fat chick"? Link to post Share on other sites
112233 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 So you are saying only the uneducated prefer sexy women? Where does that leave us smart people, stuck with all the "fatties"? Look at the context, I didn't see that implication at all. The person in question had, like you are now, trouble following a fairly simple sentence and comprehending the thought being conveyed. Thus, doesn't read ... well. He still likes slim women, I believe. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 So you are saying only the uneducated prefer sexy women? Where does that leave us smart people, stuck with all the "fatties"? Of course. Everyone knows that all the smart people of both genders are tremendous fatties. Our attraction to one another is solely due to our gigantic brains, which are constantly throbbing with psychedelic beauty and throwing off the most amazing sparks and flames of irresistible chemistry. We don't even NEED bodies to have explosive and almost paralyzing sexual experiences with other smart fatties. If you don't know that, you must not be a bona fide smart person. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Green Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 Not to toot my own horn, but I'm highly educated. I also possess an ability to read and write on a level higher than the people complaining. My bad spelling and grammar on LS are due to the FACT I don’t care and neither do a lot of people. It’s silly to worry about ever ones spelling on a forum such as this. Furthermore you will find a lot of highly educated people carelessly misspell things or use improper grammar because we just don't care and usually have some one else (secretary/assistant ect) do our spell checking/cite checking/grammar checking. Finally a smart person is more likely to appreciate true beauty, whether it be the physical beauty of a woman who isn't fat (and being thin alone doesn't make you beautiful) or the other types of beauties that aren’t physical. I think that’s what bothered people so much about this thread. It's about physical beauty. (how dare I call one thing beautiful) It's NOT about whether some one is a great mother or lover ect... its about do they look good physically. (I mean so what if your not a MILF or Attractive lover you’ll be made to feel that way hopefully and you can try to forget this thread at the real truth exists) Being thin is one requirement needed to be a hot girl. If you are fat you simply don't look good. You may look better then some ugly person who is thin, but that doesn't make them good looking. Neither does some one finding you good looking make them good looking. Like I said just because some one has turds for breakfast and loves it still leaves it GROSS. I find it funny that my intelligence gets insulted because of spelling or the fact that posters confusion leads them to believe I am confused. I’M NOT CONFUSED you are if you think fat girls look just as good as thin ones. Link to post Share on other sites
theBrokenMuse Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Wait a second, brokenmuse, are you saying YOU consider yourself a "fat chick"? Yes, I am. (and no, I am not just saying that because I am fishing for sympathy or because I have a warped body image or anything like that... it just is what it is.) Link to post Share on other sites
Author Green Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 Yes, I am. (and no, I am not just saying that because I am fishing for sympathy or because I have a warped body image or anything like that... it just is what it is.) Just for the record I would find it rude for any one to mention or talk about your weight other then in a thread like this that is meant to talk about weight. For some one to mention your weight or what you eat is just rude unless you were asking for advice and they were kind and actualy helpful motivational about it. also just because you are overweight now doesn't mean you always will be same goes for thin people. If my gf for instance gained weight that alone wouldn't change how I felt about her because we have a relationship at this point that is more the purely physical. But in the begining it was her looks that drew me in. Not to say some ones person couldn't draw another in its just much harder and never happened to me personaly. Also if my gf gained say 100lbs it would make her a different kind of person. A big part of what I like about my gf are the foods and resteraunts we like to go to. Like Fridays, chilis, applebees ect are examples of a places I would never freely choose to go.. carabas is an edible chain to go to on the other hand... olive garden not so much. Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Don't take this personally El, I actually enjoy your posting. I just have to point a few things out. First, if I recall correctly, he said "taller than 6' 2" so there's that. Second, BMI completely falls apart for people who deviate significantly from the average height. The core issue is that volume (and weight) increase with the cube whereas height is a linear dimension, and the BMI formula doesn't do the math appropriately for that. If you read up on it you will see that for very short people, BMI makes them look healthy when they can be quite chubby and for very tall people a relatively slim person will rank as "overweight". I think BMI is an interesting and useful number but it has to be combined with other factors. He didn't answer my question, hence all I had to go on was another poster's reply that he said 'more than 6''. Yes, I understand BMI deviates after a certain height/muscle mass, which is precisely why I ask. You can hardly blame me for making assumptions when the person in question isn't giving me enough facts to go on. Not to toot my own horn, but I'm highly educated. I also possess an ability to read and write on a level higher than the people complaining. My bad spelling and grammar on LS are due to the FACT I don’t care and neither do a lot of people. It’s silly to worry about ever ones spelling on a forum such as this. Furthermore you will find a lot of highly educated people carelessly misspell things or use improper grammar because we just don't care and usually have some one else (secretary/assistant ect) do our spell checking/cite checking/grammar checking. Finally a smart person is more likely to appreciate true beauty, whether it be the physical beauty of a woman who isn't fat (and being thin alone doesn't make you beautiful) or the other types of beauties that aren’t physical. I think that’s what bothered people so much about this thread. It's about physical beauty. (how dare I call one thing beautiful) It's NOT about whether some one is a great mother or lover ect... its about do they look good physically. (I mean so what if your not a MILF or Attractive lover you’ll be made to feel that way hopefully and you can try to forget this thread at the real truth exists) Being thin is one requirement needed to be a hot girl. If you are fat you simply don't look good. You may look better then some ugly person who is thin, but that doesn't make them good looking. Neither does some one finding you good looking make them good looking. Like I said just because some one has turds for breakfast and loves it still leaves it GROSS. I find it funny that my intelligence gets insulted because of spelling or the fact that posters confusion leads them to believe I am confused. I’M NOT CONFUSED you are if you think fat girls look just as good as thin ones. Firstly, I believe the issue that bothers most of us is not that you are talking about what you find attractive... it is that you are insisting that your perceptions of attractiveness are the gold standard, and everyone else's is wrong/inferior. Secondly, if you are entitled to your opinions that a few extra pounds makes a woman ugly, why is it wrong for us to be of the opinion that your high school-level spelling and sentence structure belies a less-than-desirable level of intelligence? The latter may not necessarily be true... but neither may the former be. For someone who so quickly and easily judges others by one single statistic though (body weight), I would think you would be comfortable with others doing the same to you. Link to post Share on other sites
theBrokenMuse Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 My bad spelling and grammar on LS are due to the FACT I don’t care and neither do a lot of people. It’s silly to worry about ever ones spelling on a forum such as this. Furthermore you will find a lot of highly educated people carelessly misspell things or use improper grammar because we just don't care and usually have some one else (secretary/assistant ect) do our spell checking/cite checking/grammar checking. I am not trying to take any shots at anyone when I say this but what you are saying sounds really off to me. It's always been my assumption that highly educated individuals are able to spell most rudimentary words correctly without the aid of a spell checker. Perhaps, I am mistaken in this but the idea that most people graduating from college are still essentially grappling with the English language to that extent is a really disheartening one. Link to post Share on other sites
NoLongerSad Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Look at the context, I didn't see that implication at all. The person in question had, like you are now, trouble following a fairly simple sentence and comprehending the thought being conveyed. Thus, doesn't read ... well. He still likes slim women, I believe. No need to be a douchebag about it sir. Link to post Share on other sites
112233 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I am not trying to take any shots at anyone when I say this but what you are saying sounds really off to me. It's always been my assumption that highly educated individuals are able to spell most rudimentary words correctly without the aid of a spell checker. Not all educations are equal, and all students are likewise, shall we say, individuals. Add to that some of the goofy things people can get 'degrees' in and well, anything can happen. That's neither here nor there, just sort of interesting as the source of several diversions in this thread. Fundamentally I agree with him, slim women look better and although I recognize from my travels that it's partly conditioning, to deny that the Western world is conquering the rest of the world culturally would be a joke. Link to post Share on other sites
NoLongerSad Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Of course. Everyone knows that all the smart people of both genders are tremendous fatties. Our attraction to one another is solely due to our gigantic brains, which are constantly throbbing with psychedelic beauty and throwing off the most amazing sparks and flames of irresistible chemistry. We don't even NEED bodies to have explosive and almost paralyzing sexual experiences with other smart fatties. If you don't know that, you must not be a bona fide smart person. Why do you think all smart people are fat? It seems to me that smart people would tend to be more likely to understand the importance of maintaining a healthy weight. I personally know plenty of smart people who aren't fat, how is it possible that you do not? Link to post Share on other sites
NoLongerSad Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I think that’s what bothered people so much about this thread. Why would it bother anyone who is good-looking? Link to post Share on other sites
theBrokenMuse Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Why do you think all smart people are fat? It seems to me that smart people would tend to be more likely to understand the importance of maintaining a healthy weight. I personally know plenty of smart people who aren't fat, how is it possible that you do not? Was she said was just in jest. Link to post Share on other sites
Engadget Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I prefer women with more on them, not skinny girls. Just me though. Link to post Share on other sites
NoLongerSad Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Yes, I am. (and no, I am not just saying that because I am fishing for sympathy or because I have a warped body image or anything like that... it just is what it is.) C'mon you can't seriously be suggesting that you wouldn't feel better about your appearance if you lost some weight, can you? Link to post Share on other sites
NoLongerSad Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Was she said was just in jest. "Jest" mean it is supposed to be "funny." What she said wasn't "funny." Sophomorically sarcastic, maybe. Nasty, definitely. Funny? Nah. What I said was "funny." But apparently you just didn't get the joke. Link to post Share on other sites
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