flying Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) Look at this link: http://ryanwillmottphotography.com/2009/08/ Model = "fattie" (according to Green - perfectly nice, according to me) Retouched model = "skinny" "hourglass" "Barbie" It's the norm in published photos, especially in the fashion, glamour and fitness publications. I always find the waist trimming in these photochops to be very interesting...she had some ab definition and muscle, and they took all that out to give her a more classically hourglass shape, rather than an athletic midsection. They also "removed" a few ribs, haha. Edited November 12, 2010 by flying Link to post Share on other sites
Author Green Posted November 12, 2010 Author Share Posted November 12, 2010 Eh, that's not a place I would go personally. He's entitled to his opinion about what he finds attractive whether he's 75lbs or 750lbs. What I'd be curious to know is if he thought Holly Combs or Alicia Silverstone were too overweight for his taste, if he felt Beyonce Knowles was too heavy. If I was 750lbs I'd just be more likely to settle and think all women were beautiful. I probably wouldn't be dating some my opinion would be less valid. All you people need to know is that "I THINK I'M ATTRACTIVE" I'm TALL, STrong, Full head of hair that I love, Great eyes and head shape nose ect. I'm very smart and motivated and have big goals for my life some of which are already acomplished. I'm sure if I posted my picture some would say I was hot some would say not I really could care less and it would humore me. The only reason I don't post my picture is because I am a professional and I do rely on the public and would not want to aliniate or risk aliniating myself to people by being known as the guy who likes skinny women or any of the other posts I make. Many of the regulars have seen what I look like as I used to post pics and videos of myself up. Bottom line I'm the kind of guy who has my pick of any type of woman I want (obviously and individual woman may reject me but that never stoped me) Green, since the buff men posted on this thread were 'gay' and the lean boys were 'twirps (you mean twerps, right?)'... and ALSO, since you consider yourself the God-anointed authority on how women should look (to the extent of criticizing Beyonce and Kardashian)... how about you post a picture of yourself? Go ahead and wow us. I'm sure you must look better than all the pictures here, right? The pictures of men you posted are not my taste. I'm not gay (not that gay men would know any better then straight men what attractive to a woman). What I can say is that from a competitive stand point I wouldn't see a guy like that as an obstacle for me. While I'm not as ripped or feminin looking as he is I can tell I'm much bigger and stronger and more confident then a man who would take photographs like that. It's a man thing to be able to size up competition especialy when it comes to women so you wouldn't understand. The point being I could destroy that man both mentaly and physicaly if it came to it he's like a puppy or some sht. I consider myself very good looking and able to get any woman I want. Thats not to say I wouldn't or couldn't get dumped or rejected it just wouldn't phase me to much as getting pretty women is not a problem I've had in a long time. Like I said I used to post pictures and videos up of myself on here and was humored by the responses most if not all the women thought I was very attractive. I'm complimented on my looks by random strangers on a fairly regular basis. As said before if I looked UGLY or wasn't able to date who I wanted it would more then likely LOWER my standards. Green, I also would love to see a picture of you. If some of us did not find you attractive personally, would you think it appropriate for us to deem your girlfriend brainwashed, stupid, in denial, or whatever? Because we don't find "HOTT" what she does? I don't care what you like, but I am disturbed that you don't believe that other's preferences are as valid as your own. It does not show you in a good light when you post photos of women you consider fat or bad looking to denigrate them, either. Nobody really cares about that, and it does make you look like an unpleasant kind of guy. Those ladies did not ask you what you thought about their figures. From what I have learned about you here, you have swallowed all media fed to you like a little baby bird, and you are an absolutely conventional product of the society where you function. I don't think that's so admirable, myself. You have posted lots of doctored photos as exampled of the ideal woman. What does that prove? You've mentioned Barbie as an example of an ideal woman. That's just plain ... odd. The "ideal" feminine figure has changed through time. The new "normal" of breast enhancements and other body modifications has made Barbie's body more attainable, and the massive media exposure of women's bodies (with much photoshop) has made that more desirable to have for both men (in their female accessories) and women. No argument from me that the women you post as ideal are pretty (Barbie too) and the "fatties" are indeed in poor shape. But what is your big ego investment in what other guys like? Could it be that if all guys are not thinking that your own girlfriend is the absolute ideal type, she loses value in your eyes? Sounds like it. You like skinny, you have a skinny girlfriend, woo-hoo. It has nothing to do with the rest of the world. Media has nothing to do with how I think. I base everything off of real life women I see. I really don't read magazines or watch tv. My own ideal or the feelings for my gf have nothing to do with other people think. I'm the hornyest man alive and I'll be damnded if I'm going to be with a girl that doesn't make my dick literaly throb. Its about being my true self. Many men brain wash themselves and I see it on this site. Many women don't understand male attration. Beyonce is attractive though not my ideal but the women who compare themselves to beyonce and jlo or who ever are VERY FAT while the person they compare themselves to isn't that big. That's not skinny. Those are normal bodies. This is skinny: http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/09/13/skinny_narrowweb__300x454,0.jpg Look "I prefer the way normal women look" would have been misleading. The media would have me believe normal woman walk around at 5'2 and 140lbs or some crazy sht. This is what I find hot [COLOR=#660000]http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resou..._babes_478.jpg[/COLOR] enjoy the picture and don't argue the semantics of the words I use to communicate my idea and purpose Look at this link: http://ryanwillmottphotography.com/2009/08/ Model = "fattie" (according to Green - perfectly nice, according to me) Retouched model = "skinny" "hourglass" "Barbie" It's the norm in published photos, especially in the fashion, glamour and fitness publications. She looked better after the touch up. No doubt the touch ups make photos look better. I'm not attracted to photos though I like real live women who I see in person. But the photos only prove my point. I always find the waist trimming in these photochops to be very interesting...she had some ab definition and muscle, and they took all that out to give her a more classically hourglass shape, rather than an athletic midsection. They also "removed" a few ribs, haha. She looked older and less attractive in the untouched photo. As I said though I'm attracted to women I see in person not photos and only use that as a reference. People who spend all their time getting sexual gratification from photos have a different problem and that is a different thread. The fact that women look better with these photo touch ups only proves my point. Link to post Share on other sites
sweetjasmine Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 The media would have me believe normal woman walk around at 5'2 and 140lbs or some crazy sht. So these 5'2" 140 lbs women aren't normal?: http://www.glamour.com/images/health/2007/12/hesl01_yourhappyweight.jpg http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7f91n0zrn1qcl5svo1_500.jpg http://hotfineandsexy.com/galimages/lQ6wtNzuUfkEPaj7dBOXzlGFb5Tg6dO3.jpg Link to post Share on other sites
Cracker Jack Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 There's nothing crazy or odd about a woman being 5'2" 140 lbs at all. Especially those women in Jasmine's link. Not like you're walking around with a scale in your hand or something. Oh, and ftr--I love women around that size:love: Link to post Share on other sites
112233 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 So these 5'2" 140 lbs women aren't normal?: http://www.glamour.com/images/health/2007/12/hesl01_yourhappyweight.jpg http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7f91n0zrn1qcl5svo1_500.jpg http://hotfineandsexy.com/galimages/lQ6wtNzuUfkEPaj7dBOXzlGFb5Tg6dO3.jpg Well the top one is fat I suspect, but hard to tell in a dress like that. The other two are shot at angles that are probably carefully set up to make them look less fat to that camera. Just going from the images on the last two I would not guess them 5' 2 @ 140, I would guess more like 5' 5 or so. But photos can lie. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Green Posted November 12, 2010 Author Share Posted November 12, 2010 So these 5'2" 140 lbs women aren't normal?: http://www.glamour.com/images/health/2007/12/hesl01_yourhappyweight.jpg http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7f91n0zrn1qcl5svo1_500.jpg http://hotfineandsexy.com/galimages/lQ6wtNzuUfkEPaj7dBOXzlGFb5Tg6dO3.jpg The first women isn't very attractive at all. The second woman is olright. and the third woman is the best looking of the three. none of those girls are what I would consider a nock out. but the last one does look sexy in her pic. (how is that you know that girl is 5'2 and 140? otherwise I doubt she is) There's nothing crazy or odd about a woman being 5'2" 140 lbs at all. Especially those women in Jasmine's link. Not like you're walking around with a scale in your hand or something. Oh, and ftr--I love women around that size:love: I'm not sure all the women in her link were 5'2 and 140. Really how does she know? I can tell how much a woman weighs by looking at her not that it matters. I'm just using weights and heights to communicate ideas. In the end pictures do a better job though seeing some one in person is the best way. Sorry we can't walk the beach having this conversation while pointing out real women lol. The point is age also has a big deal to do with it all. Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Max Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 I'm not going to say 5'2" 140 is gross looking, but I'm only 25 pounds heavier and I'm a foot taller. And mind you I'm not rail thin. Link to post Share on other sites
MeganDoll Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 I dont know why people get angry at this its simply reality Men dont find fat women attratcive and Women find short Men repulsive Obviously theyres exceptions to every rule but most people like certain traits in the opposite sex Link to post Share on other sites
Cracker Jack Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 What does "short men" have to do with this topic? If you're using it to attempt to prove a point, you're way off base. Btw, "repulsive" is really an overboard word to use here. Anyway, Green. I hear you on that. I like all types of women. And the beach (Which I haven't been to in 16+ yrs. My only experience is from photos and stuff, unfortunately) is one of the best places for sight-seeing. Link to post Share on other sites
Akherousia Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 If I was 750lbs I'd just be more likely to settle and think all women were beautiful. I probably wouldn't be dating some my opinion would be less valid. All you people need to know is that "I THINK I'M ATTRACTIVE" I'm TALL, STrong, Full head of hair that I love, Great eyes and head shape nose ect. I'm very smart and motivated and have big goals for my life some of which are already acomplished. I'm sure if I posted my picture some would say I was hot some would say not I really could care less and it would humore me. The only reason I don't post my picture is because I am a professional and I do rely on the public and would not want to aliniate or risk aliniating myself to people by being known as the guy who likes skinny women or any of the other posts I make. Many of the regulars have seen what I look like as I used to post pics and videos of myself up. Bottom line I'm the kind of guy who has my pick of any type of woman I want (obviously and individual woman may reject me but that never stoped me) The pictures of men you posted are not my taste. I'm not gay (not that gay men would know any better then straight men what attractive to a woman). What I can say is that from a competitive stand point I wouldn't see a guy like that as an obstacle for me. While I'm not as ripped or feminin looking as he is I can tell I'm much bigger and stronger and more confident then a man who would take photographs like that. It's a man thing to be able to size up competition especialy when it comes to women so you wouldn't understand. The point being I could destroy that man both mentaly and physicaly if it came to it he's like a puppy or some sht. I consider myself very good looking and able to get any woman I want. Thats not to say I wouldn't or couldn't get dumped or rejected it just wouldn't phase me to much as getting pretty women is not a problem I've had in a long time. Like I said I used to post pictures and videos up of myself on here and was humored by the responses most if not all the women thought I was very attractive. I'm complimented on my looks by random strangers on a fairly regular basis. As said before if I looked UGLY or wasn't able to date who I wanted it would more then likely LOWER my standards. Media has nothing to do with how I think. I base everything off of real life women I see. I really don't read magazines or watch tv. My own ideal or the feelings for my gf have nothing to do with other people think. I'm the hornyest man alive and I'll be damnded if I'm going to be with a girl that doesn't make my dick literaly throb. Its about being my true self. Many men brain wash themselves and I see it on this site. Many women don't understand male attration. Beyonce is attractive though not my ideal but the women who compare themselves to beyonce and jlo or who ever are VERY FAT while the person they compare themselves to isn't that big. Look "I prefer the way normal women look" would have been misleading. The media would have me believe normal woman walk around at 5'2 and 140lbs or some crazy sht. This is what I find hot [COLOR=#660000]http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resou..._babes_478.jpg[/COLOR] enjoy the picture and don't argue the semantics of the words I use to communicate my idea and purpose She looked better after the touch up. No doubt the touch ups make photos look better. I'm not attracted to photos though I like real live women who I see in person. But the photos only prove my point. She looked older and less attractive in the untouched photo. As I said though I'm attracted to women I see in person not photos and only use that as a reference. People who spend all their time getting sexual gratification from photos have a different problem and that is a different thread. The fact that women look better with these photo touch ups only proves my point. So you think that by being tall and with a full head of hair and nice lips you're automatically attractive? There are many beanpoles. There are many guys with full heads of hair. Last week I was at the grocery shop and I happened to look at man aged 80(a guess) with very thick and wavy hair. Was I interested in him? Nope. Am I interested in any guy with a full head of hair? heh, no. Bruce Willis is attractive. Is he famous for his lion mane? As for the height... the average height in Holland is 6 feet. The average height in Sweden is 6 feet. There are some Countries in Europe where the average height is more than that. So you have nice lips. That's great. But I don't see a man and instantly turn into a sex kitten because of his lips. You're pretty much average. As there are many guys(especially younger guys) as tall as you - even taller - and there are many guys with a full head of hair. Don't visit Germany. Don't befriend Germans aged 18-25. You gotta keep that self - esteem high! Yet another American male thinking that he's the next Cary Grant at the same time, talking crap about American women. Do you honestly believe that a Russian woman - in Russia - would choose you over this: http://www.canalfreak.cl/canalfreak/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/christian_bale_in_american_psycho.jpg Forget about his money and status. Look buddy, I've met guys who would have to slouch and look at the floor because if they didn't many women would flock to them. Do you get invitations from attractive women to bang you without even knowing your name? No? Then you're nothing to write home about. Therfore, stop with the "American women are fat and foreign women are so great." Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Max Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Just curious Green, have you ever posted your picture here? Link to post Share on other sites
donnamaybe Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 So you think that by being tall and with a full head of hair and nice lips you're automatically attractive? There are many beanpoles. There are many guys with full heads of hair. Last week I was at the grocery shop and I happened to look at man aged 80(a guess) with very thick and wavy hair. Was I interested in him? Nope. Am I interested in any guy with a full head of hair? heh, no. Bruce Willis is attractive. Is he famous for his lion mane? As for the height... the average height in Holland is 6 feet. The average height in Sweden is 6 feet. There are some Countries in Europe where the average height is more than that. So you have nice lips. That's great. But I don't see a man and instantly turn into a sex kitten because of his lips. You're pretty much average. As there are many guys(especially younger guys) as tall as you - even taller - and there are many guys with a full head of hair. Don't visit Germany. Don't befriend Germans aged 18-25. You gotta keep that self - esteem high! Yet another American male thinking that he's the next Cary Grant at the same time, talking crap about American women. Do you honestly believe that a Russian woman - in Russia - would choose you over this: http://www.canalfreak.cl/canalfreak/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/christian_bale_in_american_psycho.jpg Forget about his money and status. Look buddy, I've met guys who would have to slouch and look at the floor because if they didn't many women would flock to them. Do you get invitations from attractive women to bang you without even knowing your name? No? Then you're nothing to write home about. Therfore, stop with the "American women are fat and foreign women are so great."I've only read a couple of your posts, and I already like you - a LOT! Link to post Share on other sites
donnamaybe Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Women find short Men repulsiveDon't EVER speak for me. Not even ONCE! Link to post Share on other sites
SteveC80 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Don't EVER speak for me. Not even ONCE! She speaks the truth,she didnt say all but lets be honest most women arent into short dudes Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Max Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 In a country where 2/3 are overweight to some extent, finding someone that's actually in a normal weight range is not common at all. Out of those 1/3, finding someone that's actually decent looking is more uncommon. Finding someone that looks anything close to a model is basically like winning the lotto. To sum it up: -300 million people in the U.S(roughly half are men and half women) -Out of the approximately 150 million men/women, approximately 49,500,000 people are not overweight -Out of those 49,500,000 people, approximately 24,750,000 are above average looking -For a guy, 6'0" is taller than about 80% of the population. 24,750,000 gets knocked down to 4,950,000. I think people really overestimate true beauty in both men and women. Point is for people that think they're hot sh*t, they're not. Link to post Share on other sites
Cracker Jack Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Again, what does that have to do with this topic? You seem to (And your clone) love starting this height crap in multiplie threads. We know tall people rule the world. Stop it. Link to post Share on other sites
LisaLee Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 In a country where 2/3 are overweight to some extent, finding someone that's actually in a normal weight range is not common at all. Out of those 1/3, finding someone that's actually decent looking is more uncommon. Finding someone that looks anything close to a model is basically like winning the lotto. To sum it up: -300 million people in the U.S(roughly half are men and half women) -Out of the approximately 150 million men/women, approximately 49,500,000 people are not overweight -Out of those 49,500,000 people, approximately 24,750,000 are above average looking -For a guy, 6'0" is taller than about 80% of the population. 24,750,000 gets knocked down to 4,950,000. I think people really overestimate true beauty in both men and women. Point is for people that think they're hot sh*t, they're not. QFT, especially on this site. Link to post Share on other sites
Akherousia Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 She speaks the truth,she didnt say all but lets be honest most women arent into short dudes Short, ugly looking dudes. Yes, we aren't into them. Cute, short dudes? Why not? Very good looking but on the short side? I'm pretty sure I wouldn't say no if Tom Cruise asked me out. Is it the money? I don't need his money. He's very good looking. Very charming and he looks like he can give a woman a nice ride(spare me the talk of him being crazy due to his religious ideas). Is the short man, average looking? Hit the gym. Build muscle. Or swim. There are some very cute swimmers out there. Say, Phelps. He's not great in the face but he has a delightful body. Or dress sharper. Learn foreign languages. Do something about it. Either evolve or stop with the "I'm short, I can't get a woman." Maybe aim lower? There are many decent looking women out there looking for men in their league to have relationships with. Are you basing this "all women want tall men" in what, college girls? Heh, what Mary Sue wants at age 18 is different from what she wants when she is 25. Short guys would work with what they have. Was Patrick Swayze a tall man? I don't think so. Would I have dated him(when he wasn't rich and famous?) Yes. Link to post Share on other sites
Content Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 In a country where 2/3 are overweight to some extent, finding someone that's actually in a normal weight range is not common at all. Out of those 1/3, finding someone that's actually decent looking is more uncommon. Finding someone that looks anything close to a model is basically like winning the lotto. To sum it up: -300 million people in the U.S(roughly half are men and half women) -Out of the approximately 150 million men/women, approximately 49,500,000 people are not overweight -Out of those 49,500,000 people, approximately 24,750,000 are above average looking -For a guy, 6'0" is taller than about 80% of the population. 24,750,000 gets knocked down to 4,950,000. I think people really overestimate true beauty in both men and women. Point is for people that think they're hot sh*t, they're not. I tihnk people also are overly obsessed with looks and beauty While i need to be physically attracted to a girl she just has to do it for me she doesnt have to be a model or the most beatiful person to everyone Too many people on here are obessed with looks on a unhealthy level where i think they honestly need some professional help Link to post Share on other sites
Author Green Posted November 12, 2010 Author Share Posted November 12, 2010 So you think that by being tall and with a full head of hair and nice lips you're automatically attractive? I like my lips yes, I'd put my entire picture up and wouldn't be suprised if some one said I was ugly. Wouldn't change how I feel about myself. The reason I don't put my pic up is its not my intention to link my face and name with this site at this time (or probably ever) There are many beanpoles. There are many guys with full heads of hair. Last week I was at the grocery shop and I happened to look at man aged 80(a guess) with very thick and wavy hair. Look I have really special hair and I'm no beanpole. I'm also in my prime as opposed to being 80. but go ahead and keep being silly its really entertaining Was I interested in him? Nope. Am I interested in any guy with a full head of hair? heh' date=' no. Bruce Willis is attractive. Is he famous for his lion mane? [/quote'] As for the height... the average height in Holland is 6 feet. The average height in Sweden is 6 feet. There are some Countries in Europe where the average height is more than that. And I'm taller then both those averages so your point? So you have nice lips. That's great. But I don't see a man and instantly turn into a sex kitten because of his lips. You're pretty much average. As there are many guys(especially younger guys) as tall as you - even taller - and there are many guys with a full head of hair. Oh you like my lips, then you'd probably enjoy the rest of my face "eyes" "nose" "head shape and hair" I never said how tall I was only that I'm over 6 feet. But I know for a fact that I'm taller then most guys. Not that it matters because with my personality I could get what I want even without the height. Don't visit Germany. Don't befriend Germans aged 18-25. You gotta keep that self - esteem high! Don't worry been there done that not a problem Yet another American male thinking that he's the next Cary Grant at the same time, talking crap about American women. Do you honestly believe that a Russian woman - in Russia - would choose you over this: http://www.canalfreak.cl/canalfreak/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/christian_bale_in_american_psycho.jpg Forget about his money and status. I'm actualy taller then christian bale and feel I look better and talk with a better. I have plenty of status. I'm not a famouse movie star, but I am doing better then most. Look buddy' date=' I've met guys who would have to slouch and look at the floor because if they didn't many women would flock to them. Do you get invitations from attractive women to bang you without even knowing your name?[/quote'] Yes I do get invitations from pretty girls, a recent time that comes to mind is when I was at a hotel in England and I complained about a table being wobley and the waitress replied " You should come back to my place my table is great" Even if I didn't think I was good looking which I do I would still like Pretty women. Are you just upset because how dare some one talk about pretty women? No? Then you're nothing to write home about. Therfore' date=' stop with the "American women are fat and foreign women are so great." [/quote'] SOme foriegn wome are fat too. This is more about celebrating true curves and true beauty. I get the the feeling I am far more traveled then you which is a given considering I've travled the world been every where. Also when americans travel overseas we get plenty of attention from women we are not destroyed by the local competition like you claim exists in germany (of which I tell you German women are not my favorite) Link to post Share on other sites
Cracker Jack Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 How tall are you, Green? I always pictured you being 6'6", for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Max Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 I tihnk people also are overly obsessed with looks and beauty While i need to be physically attracted to a girl she just has to do it for me she doesnt have to be a model or the most beatiful person to everyone Too many people on here are obessed with looks on a unhealthy level where i think they honestly need some professional help Looks matter. There's no denying that. The difference is some place more an emphasis on it. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Green Posted November 12, 2010 Author Share Posted November 12, 2010 Just curious Green, have you ever posted your picture here? On LS yes I've posted pictures and videos but I don't do that anymore. People thought I was good looking one of the reasons I made the video is people accused the pics of not being me and I was like "yes its me LS" Link to post Share on other sites
Author Green Posted November 12, 2010 Author Share Posted November 12, 2010 How tall are you, Green? I always pictured you being 6'6", for some reason. I don't want to put my exact height down but lets just say I'm taller then 6'2 Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Max Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 On LS yes I've posted pictures and videos but I don't do that anymore. People thought I was good looking one of the reasons I made the video is people accused the pics of not being me and I was like "yes its me LS" I never got that, but I did get that I look like Vin Diesel. A bit ironivc considering I never got that comparison before. Link to post Share on other sites
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