I prefer the way skinny women look.

[Akherousia]

Me? I've never bashed a single picture listed on this thread, so yes, I'd believe how I look like isn't all that important. My point, is that if you're gonna bash someone and say you could take his gf from him in an instant, AND claim to look better than most of the model-quality men posted here, you'd better have the proof to back it up. Otherwise it's all empty talk.

 

If 'people advertisers use' are a good definition of attractive traits in a particular gender, please explain to me why you had such strong negative opinions of the way the pictures of men posted in this thread (which were mainly from advertisements) look.

 

 

Next thing you know Green is going to look at the fashion world and assume that women only want men above the height of 6 feet because most male models are of that height.

 

Heh, maybe he never thought of it being like... the designers make the clothes you see those models with, for people who are 6 feet tall.

 

If the designers made the models wear clothing for 5 feet tall people.

 

Guess what would the height of the male models?

 

I bet GREEN also thinks that since Jude Law is a hollywood sweetheart, everyone must have golden locks to be attractive. Oh, Jude Law is going bald. Now every man to be attractive has to be bald.

 

Great logic, GREEN.

[TheBigQuestion]

Yes, for all we know GREEN is Brazil's Kaká . The guy you're quoting is a famous women - hater.

 

http://www.theabsolute.net/misogyny/onwomen.html

 

And why are you wasting your time trying to tell us what you enjoy to look at in women, and how the companies are trying to sell things to "skinny" women?

 

Are you overcompensating for something?

 

About the model's picture: he's hot. I love his manly jaw. But I'm not into tattoos. Who knows, maybe that guy was GREEN at age 18 .

 

Schopenhauer being a "woman hater" has nothing to do with the quote that Green used.

[Els]

Next thing you know Green is going to look at the fashion world and assume that women only want men above the height of 6 feet because most male models are of that height.

 

Naw, Green would just dismiss all the photos of 6' male models as (insert random high-school insult), and say that he definitely looks better, that the advertisers are dumb when it comes to males but godlike where it comes to females.

[Akherousia]

Naw, Green would just dismiss all the photos of 6' male models as (insert random high-school insult), and say that he definitely looks better, that the advertisers are dumb when it comes to males but godlike where it comes to females.

 

Yep! I'm just surprised at how many models, before becoming models,(both male and female) get approached in the street by scouts, are hired, but GREEN somehow seems to miss that. I suppose GREEN shields his beauty because if left unguarded, his glory would burn the world to cinders(like Zeus burned his lover when she asked him to show her his true nature).

 

Come on Green. I know the doctors from Grey's anatomy got nothing on you!

[D-Lish]

And cougars are by far the most aggressive.

 

That's such an offensive term. I'm over 35 and I'm not aggressive in the least bit when it comes to dating.

[Akherousia]

Schopenhauer being a "woman hater" has nothing to do with the quote that Green used.

 

So tell me. You're going to say that Hitler wasn't that bad because he designed a nice car?

 

A woman - hater is a woman - hater. I don't care if he's hot as Bon Jovi or as smart as Goethe; he hates women.

[Akherousia]

That's such an offensive term. I'm over 35 and I'm not aggressive in the least bit when it comes to dating.

 

Yes, I don't understand that one either. Women are cougars, women hate men, women can't get turned on, women only want male models, women only want bad boys and rich guys.

 

Seriously. I'm loving the Freuds we have over here.

 

I can't say I know a guy who ever had a woman - older woman - make a fool of herself. Where is this land in which men are assaulted by older women?

[Lorelai]

If I was 750lbs I'd just be more likely to settle and think all women were beautiful. I probably wouldn't be dating some my opinion would be less valid. All you people need to know is that "I THINK I'M ATTRACTIVE" I'm TALL, STrong, Full head of hair that I love, Great eyes and head shape nose ect. I'm very smart and motivated and have big goals for my life some of which are already acomplished.

 

And you missed the entire point of me saying that bringing up your own looks is immaterial to the discussion -- because even ugly people are entitled to be attracted to what they're attracted to. Not to mention that turning it into a personal issue was a personal attack and that's not a place I'm going to go on these forums. I don't care what you look like.

 

You also didn't answer my question on whether you thought Alicia Silverstone or Holly Marie Combs (pre-baby) was too fat for you:

 

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Alicia+Silverstone+Shoes+d1RM1jXTcTLl.jpg -- recent picture of Alicia

 

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNzY2MjQ4ODc1NF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwOTYwMjI0._V1._SX284_SY400_.jpg -- Holly Marie pre-baby

 

Both Alicia Silverstone (now) and Holly Marie Combs (before she had her child) had higher BMIs than Beyonce Knowles.... though both were well within the normal range.

 

I would post a picture of Beyonce, but I think the "Single Ladies" video is testament enough to her very impressive waist-to-hip ratio.

[Green]

I see. So do tell me; how come I see women who aren't perfect with no lack of male attention? I also see attractive males with plenty attention. I see attractive males with no attention and I see average guys who somehow, without pulling "game", or sporting expensive clothes, or being tall, and actually going bald, get attention from cute girls?

 

Explain that one to me since you're some lost son of Darwin and we all know how we was gifted enough to be a relationships expert and stuff.

 

How come you see peope eating food that isn't that good. If some one ate crap would that make it good food just because some one ate it.

 

What about crappy jobs why do people work them?

 

I'm sorry but just because some guy likes some girl doesn't automaticaly make her the standard of beauty.

 

And being Tall is universaly attractive for a man the same way not being fat is attractive on a woman. But short men can overcome being short. And people will settle (knowingly or unknowingly) for fat women.

 

Hope that clears things up for you but feel free to live in your world of makebelieve

 

Me? I've never bashed a single picture listed on this thread, so yes, I'd believe how I look like isn't all that important. Also, dear, it's 'irrational', not 'irational'. Anyhow, my point, is that if you're gonna bash someone and say you could take his gf from him in an instant, AND claim to look better than most of the model-quality men posted here, you'd better have the proof to back it up. Otherwise it's all empty talk.

 

If 'people advertisers use' are a good definition of attractive traits in a particular gender, please explain to me why you had such strong negative opinions of the way the pictures of men posted in this thread (which were mainly from advertisements) look.

 

Yeah but your trying to bash how I look sight unseen so you're a hypocrite on this entire issue.

 

Tell me what was that guy in an advertisement for? The picture you sent wasn't advertising anything. Bottom line women enjoy looks but are willing to judge a guy she doesn't know on other key factors looks not being the highest among them but still very important. This thread is about women by the way not men start your own thread with pics of guys like that so we can laugh at you.

 

Next thing you know Green is going to look at the fashion world and assume that women only want men above the height of 6 feet because most male models are of that height.

 

Heh, maybe he never thought of it being like... the designers make the clothes you see those models with, for people who are 6 feet tall.

 

If the designers made the models wear clothing for 5 feet tall people.

 

Guess what would the height of the male models?

 

I bet GREEN also thinks that since Jude Law is a hollywood sweetheart, everyone must have golden locks to be attractive. Oh, Jude Law is going bald. Now every man to be attractive has to be bald.

 

Great logic, GREEN.

 

Actualy its a known FACT that women prize height. Even a woman who wants a tall guy can be persuaded to date a shorter guy if he is right for her (MAKES UP FOR IT with special money, personality some combo)

 

But if you don't understand that height is a factor in how women view men you truely are in denial it has been scientificly proven in any test on the subject.

 

Sure some women like short guys but thats not the rule. Shortness can be overcome though it can also keep you down if you let it.

 

Yep! I'm just surprised at how many models, before becoming models,(both male and female) get approached in the street by scouts, are hired, but GREEN somehow seems to miss that. I suppose GREEN shields his beauty because if left unguarded, his glory would burn the world to cinders(like Zeus burned his lover when she asked him to show her his true nature).

 

Come on Green. I know the doctors from Grey's anatomy got nothing on you!

 

I never wanted to be a model. And I really don't know or care if I have what it takes. Like I said, I like the way I look and know I look good. I work in the field that I always wanted to work in.

 

My gf was aproached by a modeling scout from one of the most well known modeling agencies but had no interest and never followed up.

[Green]

And you missed the entire point of me saying that bringing up your own looks is immaterial to the discussion -- because even ugly people are entitled to be attracted to what they're attracted to. Not to mention that turning it into a personal issue was a personal attack and that's not a place I'm going to go on these forums. I don't care what you look like.

 

You also didn't answer my question on whether you thought Alicia Silverstone or Holly Marie Combs (pre-baby) was too fat for you:

 

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Alicia+Silverstone+Shoes+d1RM1jXTcTLl.jpg -- recent picture of Alicia

 

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNzY2MjQ4ODc1NF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwOTYwMjI0._V1._SX284_SY400_.jpg -- Holly Marie pre-baby

 

Both Alicia Silverstone (now) and Holly Marie Combs (before she had her child) had higher BMIs than Beyonce Knowles.... though both were well within the normal range.

 

I would post a picture of Beyonce, but I think the "Single Ladies" video is testament enough to her very impressive waist-to-hip ratio.

 

Only the alicia pic loaded. Really she isn't my ideal of beauty. She has a cute face and was a lot sexier in clueless then now

[Akherousia]

How come you see peope eating food that isn't that good. If some one ate crap would that make it good food just because some one ate it.

 

What about crappy jobs why do people work them?

 

I'm sorry but just because some guy likes some girl doesn't automaticaly make her the standard of beauty.

 

And being Tall is universaly attractive for a man the same way not being fat is attractive on a woman. But short men can overcome being short. And people will settle (knowingly or unknowingly) for fat women.

 

Hope that clears things up for you but feel free to live in your world of makebelieve

 

 

 

Yeah but your trying to bash how I look sight unseen so you're a hypocrite on this entire issue.

 

Tell me what was that guy in an advertisement for? The picture you sent wasn't advertising anything. Bottom line women enjoy looks but are willing to judge a guy she doesn't know on other key factors looks not being the highest among them but still very important. This thread is about women by the way not men start your own thread with pics of guys like that so we can laugh at you.

 

 

 

Actualy its a known FACT that women prize height. Even a woman who wants a tall guy can be persuaded to date a shorter guy if he is right for her (MAKES UP FOR IT with special money, personality some combo)

 

But if you don't understand that height is a factor in how women view men you truely are in denial it has been scientificly proven in any test on the subject.

 

Sure some women like short guys but thats not the rule. Shortness can be overcome though it can also keep you down if you let it.

 

 

 

I never wanted to be a model. And I really don't know or care if I have what it takes. Like I said, I like the way I look and know I look good. I work in the field that I always wanted to work in.

 

My gf was aproached by a modeling scout from one of the most well known modeling agencies but had no interest and never followed up.

 

Yes, everytime I see a tall man I'm going boinkers for him(that was irony). I wonder how the German women select their male when they're all so tall. I bet they pick up some measure tape and choose the guy who is an inch taller. Yes, I can see how every Dutch is moving his butt to Spain because all women are instantly turned on - and massively so -by taller guys, and since Spanish men are only 5'8 on average, every Dutch man can have a Spanish model as a girlfriend.

 

 

What is this? Now we have to enjoy the same very thing because the TV shows women with big breasts or it shows mass murderers?

 

I have a Finnish friend who loves women with red hair, especially Irish women. I have anotehr friend who loves Italians. I have never met REAL women and REAL men to want the same guy and the same gal. There are exceptions. Many people think Brad Pitt is very attractive. But Brad Pitt is not that tall and he uses lifters.

 

Many women find Tom Cruise to be more attractive and the fella is 5'6''?

 

Many men are going to take a latina over a white woman. Isn't the white woman the number 1 Queen in the media? So why do I see many White men with Asians?

 

Why do I see black men with white women when the TV Shows black women to be sweet and caring and appealing? It might have something to do with I DUNNO; personal taste?

 

Why are women attracted to Michael Douglas? Why are men finding Angelina Jolie to be much more attractive than Megan Fox?

 

Why are men wanting to bed Kat Dennings? Why don't I see men trowing themselves at the feet of Kat Dennings?

 

Why is Jessica Alba so desirable though I never thought of her as that good looking? Truth be told, there are many other famous women as good looking or more good looking?

 

It might have something to do with GASP! personal taste and expectations of what a woman is, what a man is, in each and everyone's mind?

 

Bashing? I'm bashing? Who's bashing? You come here and discard everything we say. You seem to think you're a world - renowned specialist on what women like, how women think and how women are going to react to men.

 

You claim to be far more better looking than male models. Every time we speak of a man, you have to get your women - hater butt on here and claim to be far more good looking than the man.

 

You know what? Brad Pitt didn't spend his day nagging his family on how good looking he was; he actually got out of his arse and went to do something with his looks.

 

So you either put out or you shut up about how much more looks you have over Christian Bale for lest I forget, he's the one making the millions and also making millions out there crying for him.

 

Also, where are you trying to get at? I would overlook a man's lack of whatever it is that attracts me to a man if he had qualities I was looking for in a relationship. Yes? Are you next going to tell me that the sky is blue?

Edited November 13, 2010 by Akherousia

[Green]

Yes, everytime I see a tall man I'm going boinkers for him(that was irony). I wonder how the German women select their male when they're all so tall. I bet they pick up some measure tape and choose the guy who is an inch taller. Yes, I can see how every Dutch is moving his butt to Spain because all women are instantly turned on - and massively so -by taller guys, and since Spanish men are only 5'8 on average, every Dutch man can have a Spanish model as a girlfriend.

 

 

What is this? Now we have to enjoy the same very thing because the TV shows women with big breasts or it shows mass murderers?

 

I have a Finnish friend who loves women with red hair, especially Irish women. I have anotehr friend who loves Italians. I have never met REAL women and REAL men to want the same guy and the same gal. There are exceptions. Many people think Brad Pitt is very attractive. But Brad Pitt is not that tall and he uses lifters.

 

Many women find Tom Cruise to be more attractive and the fella is 5'6''?

 

Many men are going to take a latina over a white woman. Isn't the white woman the number 1 Queen in the media? So why do I see many White men with Asians?

 

Why do I see black men with white women when the TV Shows black women to be sweet and caring and appealing? It might have something to do with I DUNNO; personal taste?

 

Why are women attracted to Michael Douglas? Why are men finding Angelina Jolie to be much more attractive than Megan Fox?

 

Why are men wanting to bed Kat Dennings? Why don't I see men trowing themselves at the feet of Kat Dennings?

 

Why is Jessica Alba so desirable though I never thought of her as that good looking? Truth be told, there are many other famous women as good looking or more good looking?

 

It might have something to do with GASP! personal taste and expectations of what a woman is, what a man is, in each and everyone's mind?

 

Bashing? I'm bashing? Who's bashing? You come here and discard everything we say. You seem to think you're a world - renowned specialist on what women like, how women think and how women are going to react to men.

 

You claim to be far more better looking than male models. Every time we speak of a man, you have to get your women - hater butt on here and claim to be far more good looking than the man.

 

You know what? Brad Pitt didn't spend his day nagging his family on how good looking he was; he actually got out of his arse and went to do something with his looks.

 

So you either put out or you shut up about how much more looks you have over Christian Bale for lest I forget, he's the one making the millions and also making millions out there crying for him.

 

Also, where are you trying to get at? I would overlook a man's lack of whatever it is that attracts me to a man if he had qualities I was looking for in a relationship. Yes? Are you next going to tell me that the sky is blue?

 

You're clueless. Its ok I made this thread for the beautiful women. Good women just don't get enough credit these days.

[Akherousia]

You're clueless. Its ok I made this thread for the beautiful women. Good women just don't get enough credit these days.

 

 

Yes, I'm clueless about what I like in a man, what I find appealing in a man, what attracts me in a man, what a man can do/change/say to attract me, I'm also clueless about a man's intentions and all of my girlfriends are dating fairies and vampires and werewolfs.

 

Yes, you have studied women all of your life. Those years you spent looking at college girls sure payed off. Now you know what women want because you've observed all the races, all the different situations and all of the potentials in what women say and what women do.

 

Because I'm just a little thing controlled by my emotions, correct? I can't react to what I want, how I want, and however I want to react, certainly?

 

I must be constantly pulled into a good looking man just because he's good looking and I am eager to sleep with a man because he puts some crazy PUA moves on me, isn't that so?

 

I'd probably even sleep with Donald Trump because all women are immensily attracted to rich men, don't you agree?

 

Maybe you should stop going after women who are still into twilight? That could change your ideas on how women really are.

 

It's clear you've never been with a woman - at least with the mental age - above the age of 25.

 

Christ. And they wonder why many women prefer to stay single. With GREENS walking around, Jesus Christ.

 

1) consult a shrink.

 

2) Stop listening to PUA "advices."

 

3) turn off the radio from the "Tom Leykis show".

 

4) stop watching Howard Stern.

 

5)stop using women artificially enhanced as your model for what a real woman looks like.

 

6) put a hat on your head.

 

7) go out of your house.

 

8) to see real women.

 

9) Be amazed at how many couples, are so alike and so different.

 

10)change your women -hating personality.

 

Oh, and you might consider going to the local beach or something, you'd find out that your idea of skinny is actually quite the norm out there. I've only met a handful of obese women as the American men are so eager to proclaim all American women as, and those obese women were women who had given children to the world and had some good years on their back.

 

Unless you're also expecting women to stay forever Monica Belluci?

 

That's fine. Are you going to keep your hair? Are you going to keep your teeth? Are you going to keep your six pack? Are you going to keep the juices going without the need for viagra? Or you think that by having money you are entitled to a forever princess?

Edited November 13, 2010 by Akherousia

[TheBigQuestion]

So tell me. You're going to say that Hitler wasn't that bad because he designed a nice car?

 

A woman - hater is a woman - hater. I don't care if he's hot as Bon Jovi or as smart as Goethe; he hates women.

 

As far as I know, the quote Green used had absolutely nothing to do with Schopenhauer's view of women. Therefore, trying to discredit the quote by saying that he was a woman-hater is completely pointless and intellectually dishonest. It's an ad hominem attack and there's no place for those in rational discourse. This reminds me of the time some crybaby leftist was shocked that we were reading Rousseau in a political theory class because Rousseau had views about blacks and native Americans that 99% of Europeans held during his time period. As if that's supposed to negate the rest of his body of work. I suppose Thomas Jefferson's entire legacy can be wiped off the history books just because he had slaves too?

[Akherousia]

As far as I know, the quote Green used had absolutely nothing to do with Schopenhauer's view of women. Therefore, trying to discredit the quote by saying that he was a woman-hater is completely pointless and intellectually dishonest. It's an ad hominem attack and there's no place for those in rational discourse. This reminds me of the time some crybaby leftist was shocked that we were reading Rousseau in a political theory class because Rousseau had views about blacks and native Americans that 99% of Europeans held during his time period. As if that's supposed to negate the rest of his body of work. I suppose Thomas Jefferson's entire legacy can be wiped off the history books just because he had slaves too?

 

What am I always saying?

 

It seems that to many American men, we, American women, are skanks or brain dead. Christ. Way to go.

[TheBigQuestion]

What am I always saying?

 

It seems that to many American men, we, American women, are skanks or brain dead. Christ. Way to go.

 

I fail to see how this is a response to anything you quoted.

[Akherousia]

I fail to see how this is a response to anything you quoted.

 

 

Colour blind.

[Woggle]

What am I always saying?

 

It seems that to many American men, we, American women, are skanks or brain dead. Christ. Way to go.

 

To many women us men are scum who are good for nothing except sperm or we are overgrown babies so the hatred goes both ways.

[Akherousia]

To many women us men are scum who are good for nothing except sperm or we are overgrown babies so the hatred goes both ways.

 

 

It's quite simple. Avoid those who are toxic to your life.

[Woggle]

It's quite simple. Avoid those who are toxic to your life.

 

Avoid men who are toxic to your life as well. You are the one getting angry at men for simply venting on a message board. In another thread you even got angry over a song. If you don't like what some men have to say avoid it.

[Akherousia]

Avoid men who are toxic to your life as well. You are the one getting angry at men for simply venting on a message board. In another thread you even got angry over a song. If you don't like what some men have to say avoid it.

 

 

I'm not angry. I'm quite calm. I was raised seeing men act, not talk about what they want. So maybe, by acting less feminine these guys would have better luck with the women? just wondering.

[Woggle]

I'm not angry. I'm quite calm. I was raised seeing men act, not talk about what they want. So maybe, by acting less feminine these guys would have better luck with the women? just wondering.

 

Maybe so but for now they have a place to vent and talk to other men who have been where they have been. Why this seems to bother some women so much is beyond me. I know damn well that not all women are like this because I have real life examples but unless a man stays celibate he will run into this crap in the dating world.

[Green]

I fail to see how this is a response to anything you quoted.

 

Her responses make no sense. Seriously he was from the 1850's most women were thought of poorly back then. Am I only suposed to quote people from the last 30 years?

 

 

To many women us men are scum who are good for nothing except sperm or we are overgrown babies so the hatred goes both ways.

 

This woman has called me a PUA a Howard stern an Tom lykas listner and everything else under the sun including presumeably ugly because I said I like the way skinny women look as oposed to fat.

 

its very interesting.

 

I'm not angry. I'm quite calm. I was raised seeing men act, not talk about what they want. So maybe, by acting less feminine these guys would have better luck with the women? just wondering.

 

You are very angry. I have great luck with women one is in my bed keeping me company every night. (my lovely gf) Just got done putting her to bed if you know what I mean.

[Akherousia]

Maybe so but for now they have a place to vent and talk to other men who have been where they have been. Why this seems to bother some women so much is beyond me. I know damn well that not all women are like this because I have real life examples but unless a man stays celibate he will run into this crap in the dating world.

 

 

Because this is a relationship forum, not a forum for people(both women and men) in need of psychological help.

 

Try being a woman just for you to see how it's annoying and baffling how so many guys(online; never seen this in real life) think I'm a witch just because I have a taste in blond men. I can't have that!

 

I'm also a witch because some other woman played a trick on his heart. And the endless need for attention, what is this? 15 year old teenagers? What happened to the urge men had to go out and accomplish something?

 

How is this crying going to interest a woman?

[Woggle]

I actually prefer women to look more healthy and I think it is a shame that women who were considered sex symbols in the past would be overweight today but you have your tastes and I respect that. Women have the right to their tastes and so do you.