sweetjasmine Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Thered be a good chance she is lying but why not link the profile that claims this woman is 5'2 140 lbs. its all well and good to post pictures of random unattractive women maybe the last one being some what attractive and claim they are of a certain heigh and certain weight but I want proof... not that stats would prove anything but it would be a step in the right direction. I could post a super models pic and say look she is 5'8 and weighs 140 and looks great and for all I know her real height is 5'9 and real weight 117... so really its nothing special what she did. I doubt a profile exists or she would have posted it. Maybe she'll go make a profile now It's cute that instead of responding directly to me, you respond to someone else about me and accuse me of lying. Here you go, buddy, all it takes is a Google Image Search of 5'2" 140 lbs: http://hotfineandsexy.com/profile.php?id=30 I think its for health reasons the human brain is programed to respond to beauty in this way. Being underweight is just as unhealthy as being overweight. And historically, thinness has been seen as unattractive and a sign of poverty and low social class, since the rich could afford to lounge around stuffing their faces all day. Link to post Share on other sites
112233 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Well, he was suggesting that she weighs less than 140. So she must be saying she weighs more than she really does because most young women want everyone to think they're heavier than they really are. I'd think it's more likely she's under 140 in the picture, and at least 140 NOW. Link to post Share on other sites
dreamingoftigers Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 I think its for health reasons the human brain is programed to respond to beauty in this way. Bad health and bad looks don't mean a person is bad just makes them less attractive and I wouldn't prefer the way they look to skinnier women. I just ask because on the thread giving credit to "good" women you posted up specifically about the appearance of a woman. So I have wanted some clarification on this. What makes a thin woman "good" as opposed to an overweight woman. It all ties into this. Your description of "fat" woman in bed was shocking and very innacurate. I just wonder what you base your views on and why. Break their legs? That seems very extreme to me. To you is a person's weight a depictor of their worth? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Green Posted November 14, 2010 Author Share Posted November 14, 2010 It's cute that instead of responding directly to me, you respond to someone else about me and accuse me of lying. Here you go, buddy, all it takes is a Google Image Search of 5'2" 140 lbs: http://hotfineandsexy.com/profile.php?id=30 Being underweight is just as unhealthy as being overweight. And historically, thinness has been seen as unattractive and a sign of poverty and low social class, since the rich could afford to lounge around stuffing their faces all day. That website is almost pornographic is that what you used when you were dating? I'd think it's more likely she's under 140 in the picture, and at least 140 NOW. exactly those pics could be be of her at a different time and place her life. She is probably OVER 140 now. Link to post Share on other sites
112233 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 I think its for health reasons the human brain is programed to respond to beauty in this way. Bad health and bad looks don't mean a person is bad just makes them less attractive and I wouldn't prefer the way they look to skinnier women. From a reproductive stand point the African dudes are probably more pragmatic; the things they look for all pretty much say "breeder" whereas our view on health and what is healthy often centers on longevity. If you want to evaluate genetically passed predispositions to prefer certain traits for a mate, whether or not they are likely to be alive at age 60 is almost irrelevant, whereas how likely they are to die during child birth is highly relevant. For instance. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Green Posted November 14, 2010 Author Share Posted November 14, 2010 I just ask because on the thread giving credit to "good" women you posted up specifically about the appearance of a woman. So I have wanted some clarification on this. What makes a thin woman "good" as opposed to an overweight woman. It all ties into this. Your description of "fat" woman in bed was shocking and very innacurate. I just wonder what you base your views on and why. Break their legs? That seems very extreme to me. To you is a person's weight a depictor of their worth? I think your worth it and the best for your husband and kids and friends or what ever. The thing is it doesn't change the fact that skinny it better and that the world is now full of people in denial. I'm not saying you should hate yourself because you should love yourself the same wether you are 400lbs or 100lbs the things is I have such a problem with the way some people have begun to think. I am very happy with the fact that not all women are fat and they are good women for taking the time to loook soo soo good. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Green Posted November 14, 2010 Author Share Posted November 14, 2010 From a reproductive stand point the African dudes are probably more pragmatic; the things they look for all pretty much say "breeder" whereas our view on health and what is healthy often centers on longevity. If you want to evaluate genetically passed predispositions to prefer certain traits for a mate, whether or not they are likely to be alive at age 60 is almost irrelevant, whereas how likely they are to die during child birth is highly relevant. For instance. Humans are animals but we also have society and other behaviors which fit into our attraction. While the key might still be looking for some one who can provide and different set of skills are needed to provide. With out modern science none of thes fat people wold exist, and with out modern science none of these fat people would be able to survive. Link to post Share on other sites
sweetjasmine Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 That website is almost pornographic is that what you used when you were dating? Oh yeah, leik totelly! LOL! I mett so meny hot guyz. I think you should really try reading for comprehension, at least once. Here's a little hint: all it takes is a Google Image Search of 5'2" 140 lbs Link to post Share on other sites
Author Green Posted November 14, 2010 Author Share Posted November 14, 2010 Oh yeah, leik totelly! LOL! I mett so meny hot guyz. I think you should really try reading for comprehension, at least once. Here's a little hint: Well thanks for sending me their I really love it when people link me to raunchy sites to prove their points. But it really doesn't prove sht as that site seems weird and fake. Why don't you find me something reputable like a young star who quotes her weight. and then I can point out how she doesn't look that great. (not that there will be many young stars at 5'2 around 140" Link to post Share on other sites
dreamingoftigers Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 I just ask because on the thread giving credit to "good" women you posted up specifically about the appearance of a woman. So I have wanted some clarification on this. What makes a thin woman "good" as opposed to an overweight woman. It all ties into this. Your description of "fat" woman in bed was shocking and very innacurate. I just wonder what you base your views on and why. Break their legs? That seems very extreme to me. To you is a person's weight a depictor of their worth? I think your worth it and the best for your husband and kids and friends or what ever. I didn't ask this to seek your approval, I am simply looking for what the actual logic behind your viewpoint, but thanks. The thing is it doesn't change the fact that skinny it better and that the world is now full of people in denial. Better for what exactly, better overall, better for changing lightbulbs? Again just trying to understand what you are getting at? Overall thin women make better partners? or are better in bed? compose better musicals? I'm not saying you should hate yourself because you should love yourself the same wether you are 400lbs or 100lbs the things is I have such a problem with the way some people have begun to think. You may have stated it before, in fact probably many times. But if you could state it for me please: What exactly is the problem? and what is the error in other's thinking? I am very happy with the fact that not all women are fat and they are good women for taking the time to loook soo soo good. You still did not answer the last question on my post. So a "good" woman to you is one who takes the time to look good. Did I get that right? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Green Posted November 14, 2010 Author Share Posted November 14, 2010 You still did not answer the last question on my post. So a "good" woman to you is one who takes the time to look good. Did I get that right? I would say its a good quality but doesn't make a good woman. Good lookings people can be shty. A good looking woman does look good and being fat doesn't look good leave it at that. Link to post Share on other sites
dreamingoftigers Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 I would say its a good quality but doesn't make a good woman. Good lookings people can be shty. A good looking woman does look good and being fat doesn't look good leave it at that. Just clarifying because you had shown pictures and when it was mentioned that the OP was referring to personality, you mentioned that those women were good. So I thought since the opinion of "goodness" to you and "beauty" to you were one and the same it was more than appropriate to ask you about these views on your thread regarding looks. So in your opinion then: Looking good is a good quality to have but it does not designate the character of the woman. Being thin looks good and being fat does not look good. Did I get that right? Link to post Share on other sites
LisaLee Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Remember when Dove soap had that "real women have real bodies" ad? Earlier this year, they decided to discontinue that angle because they were not selling as many products as they did before they started showing those ads. They said that overweight women felt a little ashamed because they felt that the models in those ads were calling them out on their "imperfect" bodies. Seeing ads of overweight women in their bras and panties did not look appealing. Link, please. Because I googled and came up short. The Wiki article says nothing about it being discontinued, either. Link to post Share on other sites
theBrokenMuse Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Remember when Dove soap had that "real women have real bodies" ad? Earlier this year, they decided to discontinue that angle because they were not selling as many products as they did before they started showing those ads. They said that overweight women felt a little ashamed because they felt that the models in those ads were calling them out on their "imperfect" bodies. It just goes to show you how lowly those women feel. They are so insecure that they actually project their own feelings of inadequacy onto anyone they physically identify with. It must really be god awful to have self-esteem that non-existent. Link to post Share on other sites
dreamingoftigers Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 It's no accident that you see rich men with slim women. The more money a man has, the more likely it is that the woman he's with is slim. The less money he has, the more likely it is that she's overweight. Men get with women that their money allows them to afford. Women get with men that their looks can afford. It isn't that rich men can afford to attract that type of woman. If that man comes from a higher social class, most often he will mate with someone in that social class who has money as well. Those who have money have the financial ability to be much more looks conscious then those who don't (high-end makeup/skin care products, cosmetic surgery, personal trainers). They often tend to have jobs that allow them to maintain balance in their lives that allows them to take care of their health better. Link to post Share on other sites
LisaLee Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 It just goes to show you how lowly those women feel. They are so insecure that they actually project their own feelings of inadequacy onto anyone they physically identify with. It must really be god awful to have self-esteem that non-existent. Umm, I googled, and from what I saw the campaign is still going strong. In fact, there were several articles on how hugely popular it is, and from a marketing perspective it was wildly successful. That's why I'd like to see some cited sources, because I just couldn't find anything that Fourth Planet described. Link to post Share on other sites
theBrokenMuse Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Umm, I googled, and from what I saw the campaign is still going strong. In fact, there were several articles on how hugely popular it is, and from a marketing perspective it was wildly successful. That's why I'd like to see some cited sources, because I just couldn't find anything that Fourth Planet described. It never even crossed my mind to go look for the background information on it as I wasn't really focused on the success or ill fated venture of the campaign itself, really just imagining what it must be like to have the type of self-loathing that he was talking about. I am glad to hear the campaign is going strong. Kewl and very smart move. Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Max Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Maybe the "discontinued" was where I got ahead of myself. If those ads still run, then fine. Personally, I have not seen a single "Real Women Have Real Curves" ad since they talked about it, whether it be on television or in a magazine, or on a billboard ad. They talked about this on Fox News (Bill O'Reilly). He had some female colleagues on and they expressed how it was a shame the the sales went down because of that ad, and how women should embrace their bodies even if they don't look like slimmer models. They also talked about how the females consumers felt wrongfully exposed because they felt that the models in those ads were calling them out. Here are a couple of links that talk about how women's self esteem did not rise from these ads. By the way, it also points to what I said earlier about how slim women can sell products better than fat women: http://asunews.asu.edu/20100316_business_admodelsize http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/lifestyle/how-media-deflates-fat-womens-self-esteem-inflates-skinny-females_100260439.html The second link is pretty much a copy of the first link, but the last three paragraphs added something that the first link didn't. Two words to describe him: F*CKING TOOL Link to post Share on other sites
dreamingoftigers Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 That's right. This also explains why the average woman won't look like Jennifer Aniston at 40 years of age by the time they get that old. However, that doesn't give women who come from the lower social class the excuse to not watch their weight or how they look. If a man from a low social class is with a girl, chances are more likely that his girl will be overweight.(Also the much higher the chances that he is overweight as well, thereby increasing the odds of him being in a relationship with an overweight woman). There are exceptions, but as I said the less money he has, the less likely he's with a girl who's not only thin, but also very hot (there are ugly women who are also thin). Not every woman who isn't rich is overweight. But if he hits the jackpot tomorrow, or if he gets a better job, or a promotion to a higher position, or something like that, his value of life becomes better. That man who was once on the low end of the ecomomic factor, can now afford the better things in life. Better clothes, better furniture, he might move to a better neighborhood, and the quality of women increases. Because hotter women are going to become more available to someone who is now in a position to make much more money. Not only that, fat women are at a disadvantage when it comes to their work. Slim women, as a group, have better jobs than fat women, they get paid more, and attract men who have better paying jobs than women who are overweight. True. These companies want women who are eye candies to represent them. That means even if a fat woman has a job where she's paid a nice salary, men would rather get with the slim woman who makes less than that overweight girl. Because men don't care about a woman's salary because to this day, society does not expect women to be the breadwinners of the household. The best men get the best women. And for men, that means the most attractive ones (even if she makes zero dollars). Statistically though he is still going to marry someone on par with income and appearance, they may rearrange their roles when children come etc. but this still holds true. That's right. The more money he has, the more likely he's going to get that hot secretary rather than an overweight collegue who makes a lot more than she does It is still more likely for him to marry the colleague and 'date' the secretary. The secretary is more likely to marry someone in her social class and appearance category. and here are more than ten characters. Link to post Share on other sites
Sidtheskid Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 It's simply the modern version of a dowry. Carry on. Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 You guys who are talking about overweight women are missing the point. The OP is not only talking about overweight women as unattractive; he is claiming that, basically, any women who aren't 'skinny' are unattractive. According to him, Beyonce is unattractive. Beyonce's stats: Height: 5ft 6in Weight: 135 lbs BMI: 23.1 - healthy Bust: 36 Inches Waist: 24 Inches Hips: 34 Inches Link to post Share on other sites
Author Green Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 Yes Money = Thinner (more valued) Link to post Share on other sites
112233 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 You guys who are talking about overweight women are missing the point. The OP is not only talking about overweight women as unattractive; he is claiming that, basically, any women who aren't 'skinny' are unattractive. According to him, Beyonce is unattractive. Beyonce's stats: Height: 5ft 6in Weight: 135 lbs BMI: 23.1 - healthy Bust: 36 Inches Waist: 24 Inches Hips: 34 Inches Well I think she's a bit big for my taste but I prefer smaller women. I wouldn't consider that height and weight to be automatically fat though. That's sort of taller than average for a woman. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Green Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 You guys who are talking about overweight women are missing the point. The OP is not only talking about overweight women as unattractive; he is claiming that, basically, any women who aren't 'skinny' are unattractive. According to him, Beyonce is unattractive. Beyonce's stats: Height: 5ft 6in Weight: 135 lbs BMI: 23.1 - healthy Bust: 36 Inches Waist: 24 Inches Hips: 34 Inches yes and heres the stats of women who compare themeselves to beyonce height: 5'5 Weight: 165 and UP Waist: Big Hips: migh not be big but fat Beyonce herself aint that bad but she isn't that hot atleast her body isn't I havn't seen her in bikinis or anything like that recently so I wouldn't know. Lady gaga showed a lot more skin then beyonce. Women of her size wear clothes that mold. And she isn't that fat, but she represents women who are fat that claim to have her body type. Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Max Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 yes and heres the stats of women who compare themeselves to beyonce height: 5'5 Weight: 165 and UP Waist: Big Hips: migh not be big but fat Beyonce herself aint that bad but she isn't that hot atleast her body isn't I havn't seen her in bikinis or anything like that recently so I wouldn't know. Lady gaga showed a lot more skin then beyonce. Women of her size wear clothes that mold. And she isn't that fat, but she represents women who are fat that claim to have her body type. 5'4" 165 is the average size of a woman here in the states, according to the link I posted last night. That's my weight and 10 inches shorter. Link to post Share on other sites
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