Why do guys think heavily photoshopped photos are real

[MrNate]

some guys actually look like that in real life (body not face, Pitt's face is a rarity). But they do have imperfections too.

 

They go through extensive lengths to maintain it though-tanning, restrictive dieting and steroids. If guys neglected these three things, they would usually look more filled in rather than muscular (think mauricio rua-mma fighter-- http://www.mmamadness.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/mauricio-rua.jpg ).

 

No dude grew up naturally looking jacked. They put in hours to look the part i.e- athletes and people whose jobs require a great deal of physical labor or if not those former occupations, guys get jacked for health reasons, but mainly do it for aesthetic purposes.

 

The point still stands. Men are photoshopped as well. Including images for the viewing pleasure of women.

[Woggle]

It is more repulsive attitude than anything physical that turns men off. I know some women refuse to believe it but a great personality and attitude goes a long way with attracting men. It really does. I know homely looking women who have great success with the opposite sex and the reason is because they actually like men and treat us well. Men pick up on that vibe from them. Projecting a bitter manhating attitude makes most men run for their lives and then these same women blame it on looks which is not the case at all.

[MrNate]

These indepth, overly assumptive, analyses just don't stop. Look, if you're bitter towards men and contribute all the unhealthy activities women engage to the apparently insatiable appetite men have, then just go lesbian. This will eliminate the problem 100% for women with this issue. Seriously. Or if not, then maybe try and realize once again that all men are different, and are NOT the source of the majority of problems women face.

 

After all, it's always easier to point the finger, than take the blame.

[kiss_andmakeup]

These indepth, overly assumptive, analyses just don't stop. Look, if you're bitter towards men and contribute all the unhealthy activities women engage to the apparently insatiable appetite men have, then just go lesbian. This will eliminate the problem 100% for women with this issue. Seriously. Or if not, then maybe try and realize once again that all men are different, and are NOT the source of the majority of problems women face.

 

After all, it's always easier to point the finger, than take the blame.

 

Hear, hear.

 

Are there men who suck? Yes. Do all men suck? No. Same goes for women.

 

I for one have never had an intimate situation arise where the guy expressed disappointment that my body didn't look like the photoshopped model on the cover of a magazine. Most guys just are attracted to girls who are in good shape and attractive, and who can fault them for that? Do they want someone they're attracted to? Of course! Do they care if they don't have perfectly big round boobies and airbrush-quality glowing skin? Not in my experience.

[Jersey Shortie]

The point still stands. Men are photoshopped as well. Including images for the viewing pleasure of women.

 

How many women are masturbating to images of men compared to how many men are masturbating to images of women? Women aren't as easily led by photoshopped images of men as men adn women are of photoshopped images of women.

[C-i-C-u]

How many women are masturbating to images of men compared to how many men are masturbating to images of women? Women aren't as easily led by photoshopped images of men as men adn women are of photoshopped images of women.

I don't need an image of a women infront of me to masterbate. I can do without it.

[Jersey Shortie]

I'm sure you can. The fact remains that many men use images of women to get off.

[MrNate]

How many women are masturbating to images of men compared to how many men are masturbating to images of women? Women aren't as easily led by photoshopped images of men as men adn women are of photoshopped images of women.

 

Bleh heh heh... I waited for you bring this up.

 

have you thought that women aren't as easily led by thes image becasude men (once again) are MUCH mire visual than women? That's why images of sexy women are popular to men.. Because it stimulates their VISION. Leave nastiness, degrading women, etc out of this. This doesn't just center around porn.

 

 

Now here's the kicker. Why is twilight such a hotseller? Hm. Guess what gender is responsible for most of the money in ms meyers pocket?WOMEN. To refute this fact is an absolute lie. That goes for other romance novels or

termed 'chick flicks' . Why do these sell so well? Because they appeal to a

woman's EMOTIONS and FEELINGS. So women respond to these things.

 

 

So please spare me that argument. Whats your next one? I'm here all day.

 

 

Men are not the source of all women's problems.

[DanielMadr]

I'm sure you can. The fact remains that many men use images of women to get off.

 

Yeah, pictures of penguins don't do it for us. Wait...I try...Nope...nothing.

 

I guess you are sentenced to life long envy of beautiful girls.

 

You should find some masochistic submissive male. You can be his domina and ban him to jack off alltogether and even beat him without merci....and he will love you for it. Perfect relationship.

 

Just don't try the shamming with normal guys and girls

[brainygirl]

Bleh heh heh... I waited for you bring this up.

 

have you thought that women aren't as easily led by thes image becasude men (once again) are MUCH mire visual than women? That's why images of sexy women are popular to men.. Because it stimulates their VISION. Leave nastiness, degrading women, etc out of this. This doesn't just center around porn.

 

 

Now here's the kicker. Why is twilight such a hotseller? Hm. Guess what gender is responsible for most of the money in ms meyers pocket?WOMEN. To refute this fact is an absolute lie. That goes for other romance novels or

termed 'chick flicks' . Why do these sell so well? Because they appeal to a

woman's EMOTIONS and FEELINGS. So women respond to these things.

 

 

So please spare me that argument. Whats your next one? I'm here all day.

 

 

Men are not the source of all women's problems.

 

Please don't class me with the twilight lovers . . . those books are setting up a generation of women for bad relationships.

[MrNate]

Please don't class me with the twilight lovers . . . those books are setting up a generation of women for bad relationships.

 

The point still stands. You don't have to put yourself in the twilight lovers group, which is why I included 'other romance novels, etc' in my post.

[brainygirl]

The point still stands. You don't have to put yourself in the twilight lovers group, which is why I included 'other romance novels, etc' in my post.

 

SO because I'm a woman I love romance novels?

 

If pride and prejudice and zombies counts . . .

[MrNate]

SO because I'm a woman I love romance novels?

 

If pride and prejudice and zombies counts . . .

 

Didn't say that either, what I did say, however is the things I listed, I take 100% confidence in knowing that women are the majority purchasers, because it appeals to what triggers effective reaposes in women. I know this is true.

 

 

So with that said, does anyone else have an irrational assumption to make about men? Or can we start actually discussing why some of these irrational attitudes are causing bitterness towards men?

[MrNate]

Hear, hear.

 

Are there men who suck? Yes. Do all men suck? No. Same goes for women.

 

I for one have never had an intimate situation arise where the guy expressed disappointment that my body didn't look like the photoshopped model on the cover of a magazine. Most guys just are attracted to girls who are in good shape and attractive, and who can fault them for that? Do they want someone they're attracted to? Of course! Do they care if they don't have perfectly big round boobies and airbrush-quality glowing skin? Not in my experience.

 

Hm. A rational post! Now that mindset is sexy.

 

Guys will always look at attractive women because... We heterosexual! Look at

that...As much as we would like to gouge our eyes out from looking at any attractive woman, I'm afraid that's not possible.Now if you can somehow relay

this to a few select women on this thread ,kiss... I would be eternally grateful.

[donnamaybe]

The question this thread posed should have been satisfied with this:

cause they are ignorant

 

Or this:

Wow, that was actually rather interesting...

 

What you have to keep in mind is: SEX SELLS...in everything...therefore, more attractive images will bring in more money...and with enough exposure, society is tempered to accept these images as reality...

 

Or even this:

 

Every photo in every magazine or ad is retouched.. some more than others..

Every makeup ad.. every lingerie ad.. every ad period..

 

Retouching isn't new and has been being done since photos have been used..

Cars, People, Appliances even pictures of food on the packaging in the frozen food section or the menu board at your favorite take out place.

 

As far as guys looking at a retouched photo and thinking that is perfection.. hahaha.. that is only the perfection the art director was looking for when they directed the artist to slim down or alter them.

 

I'm with Alpha.. they are idiots...

 

Does every single male on LS have to admit that they know the photos are retouched but just enjoy them anyway? Or is it just fun to beat a subject to death?

[Jersey Shortie]

If pride and prejudice and zombies counts . . .

 

Jane Austen was ahead of her times!

 

 

I guess you are sentenced to life long envy of beautiful girls.

 

Really, there is no need to make smug personal slights because you don't like my opinion.

 

 

Just don't try the shamming with normal guys and girls

 

You should take your own advice because you employ these tactics yourself.

 

 

have you thought that women aren't as easily led by thes image becasude men (once again) are MUCH mire visual than women?

 

Then stick to the visual and don't envovle yourself with real women that have thoughts and feelings.

 

If these images are what really speak to you, then you should be able to find a very happy life fullfilling yourself with visual imagery rather then real female companionship where it would clearly require some base understanding of the female gender to maintain. It's so strange to me that so many men are more attuned to defendnig their "visual" needs then their relationship ones.

 

Now here's the kicker. Why is twilight such a hotseller? Hm. Guess what gender is responsible for most of the money in ms meyers pocket?WOMEN. To refute this fact is an absolute lie. That goes for other romance novels or termed 'chick flicks' . Why do these sell so well? Because they appeal to a woman's EMOTIONS and FEELINGS. So women respond to these things.

 

Absolutely. But who is the main gender responsible for the popularlity of James Bond movies? There are clearly movies that are geared to one gender or the other that evoke strong feelings.

 

But what does this have to do with anything I previously talked about? You're common arguements are always deflection of topic. if you want to talk about Twilight. Start a thread. If you want to be honest in your dialogue about men, then be honest. But don't try to deflect with the old stand by "they do it too". Nothing ever will move past that if that's your only response.

 

Men are not the source of all women's problems.

 

That's the problem Mr.Nate. That you rather take these discussions as accusations of women saying that men are the source or all our problems then listen with an open mind at what women are trying to express in an attempt to have better relationships with men.

 

There are certain issues between the genders. This does not mean that women think men are the source of "all" their problems. However, it does mean there are cerain things both men and women do that don't treat the other gender with respect. If you want to be treated with respect and you want to treat women with respect you have to be willing to listen just as much as you are willing to talk. And that's something I have yet to see from you. You often belittle comments women make and instead try to swing it around to what issues you face. Instead of being honest or listening and talking about the issues men face seperately.

 

I think male pride and their desire to have female acceptance often keeps men from listening with an open mind and heart to the issues women face. Just because you don't take what a woman thinks and feels seriously, doesn't mean she will stop taking it seriously. It will mean that she will learn that mabye men don't care.

[Woggle]

It's not that men don't want to listen but we are sick and tired of being told we are pigs simply because we born with a penis. Both genders have good and bad in them and both of us deal with stuff in mordern day dating but if you listen to some women tell it you would think that woman are a bunch of innocent victims while men are ogres who have no feelings at all towards women which is in no way the truth. The way some women automatically puts men on the defensive.

[TheBigQuestion]

 

If these images are what really speak to you, then you should be able to find a very happy life fullfilling yourself with visual imagery rather then real female companionship where it would clearly require some base understanding of the female gender to maintain. It's so strange to me that so many men are more attuned to defendnig their "visual" needs then their relationship ones.

 

 

 

This right here is the ultimate flaw in your argument. You automatically assume that just because a man justifies his predisposition to being attracted to visual depictions of attractive women that he automatically does not stand up for any women or for his relationship needs. I could start talking about those, but that would be off topic. These two qualities are not mutually exclusive. The faster you realize this, the faster you'll be able to have an intelligent debate. As of right now, everything you've said in this thread can be reduced to "Because men like X, they automatically ignore and resent Y."

[MrNate]

It's not that men don't want to listen but we are sick and tired of being told we are pigs simply because we born with a penis. Both genders have good and bad in them and both of us deal with stuff in mordern day dating but if you listen to some women tell it you would think that woman are a bunch of innocent victims while men are ogres who have no feelings at all towards women which is in no way the truth. The way some women automatically puts men on the defensive.

 

Amen. That attitude gets annoying, but if you try to bring it up, you'll be labeled as one who 'ignores the struggles of women.

[MrNate]

Jane Austen was ahead of her times!

 

 

 

 

Really, there is no need to make smug personal slights because you don't like my opinion.

 

 

 

 

You should take your own advice because you employ these tactics yourself.

 

 

 

 

Then stick to the visual and don't envovle yourself with real women that have thoughts and feelings.

 

If these images are what really speak to you, then you should be able to find a very happy life fullfilling yourself with visual imagery rather then real female companionship where it would clearly require some base understanding of the female gender to maintain. It's so strange to me that so many men are more attuned to defendnig their "visual" needs then their relationship ones.

 

 

 

Absolutely. But who is the main gender responsible for the popularlity of James Bond movies? There are clearly movies that are geared to one gender or the other that evoke strong feelings.

 

But what does this have to do with anything I previously talked about? You're common arguements are always deflection of topic. if you want to talk about Twilight. Start a thread. If you want to be honest in your dialogue about men, then be honest. But don't try to deflect with the old stand by "they do it too". Nothing ever will move past that if that's your only response.

 

 

 

That's the problem Mr.Nate. That you rather take these discussions as accusations of women saying that men are the source or all our problems then listen with an open mind at what women are trying to express in an attempt to have better relationships with men.

 

There are certain issues between the genders. This does not mean that women think men are the source of "all" their problems. However, it does mean there are cerain things both men and women do that don't treat the other gender with respect. If you want to be treated with respect and you want to treat women with respect you have to be willing to listen just as much as you are willing to talk. And that's something I have yet to see from you. You often belittle comments women make and instead try to swing it around to what issues you face. Instead of being honest or listening and talking about the issues men face seperately.

 

I think male pride and their desire to have female acceptance often keeps men from listening with an open mind and heart to the issues women face. Just because you don't take what a woman thinks and feels seriously, doesn't mean she will stop taking it seriously. It will mean that she will learn that mabye men don't care.

 

There are so many things wrong with this response. I feel like an English teacher grading an F paper. Incorrections everywhere. All you do, once again is throw out loaded assumptions. And apparently, I am always 'avoiding the issue' and deflecting your questions (wherever they are) away. So while this is false, I'll take a different approach, since apparently my responses, though satisfactory, don't appease you.

 

If your discussions weren't accusations towards men, then I (as well as other men) would not be here.

 

Sometimes I wonder if you actually read what you right, or if the pride is simply clouding your eyes.

 

So since this big bad, heartless male is keeping the woman down, what questions am I avoiding? List them and I will answer accordingly. And, as always, when you're ready to discuss why you're so angry towards us men in a reasonable and logical manner, I'll be waiting. PM if you must, it doesn't matter.

Edited June 2, 2010 by MrNate

[Jersey Shortie]

It's not that men don't want to listen but we are sick and tired of being told we are pigs simply because we born with a penis. Both genders have good and bad in them and both of us deal with stuff in mordern day dating but if you listen to some women tell it you would think that woman are a bunch of innocent victims while men are ogres who have no feelings at all towards women which is in no way the truth. The way some women automatically puts men on the defensive.

 

That works both ways Woogle. The way some men act automatically puts some women on the defensive. You might be sick of being told your "pigs" but I am sick of men making their every sexual whim justification to treat women a certain way. The "I'm visual so I can just stomp all over what a woman wants because what *I* need is what counts" attitude that men have sucks.

 

This right here is the ultimate flaw in your argument. You automatically assume that just because a man justifies his predisposition to being attracted to visual depictions of attractive women that he automatically does not stand up for any women or for his relationship needs. I could start talking about those, but that would be off topic. These two qualities are not mutually exclusive. The faster you realize this, the faster you'll be able to have an intelligent debate. As of right now, everything you've said in this thread can be reduced to "Because men like X, they automatically ignore and resent Y."

 

Apparently they are mutually exclusive otherwise this discussion for men or woman wouldn't exist. You don't consider them mutally exclusive because it's real easy for men to put women into seperate boxes that serve their purpose. Visual imagery and fantasy of unrealistic women in one column serves one set of needs. And the *real* everyday girlfriend you have to settle for that doesn't meet your visual desires serves another. I never hear the men on this board defend or stand up for their girlfriends or wives when it comes to the "visual". I've heard TONS of men defend their desire for porn, or to oggle the check out girl, or any number ofvisual stimulous men apparently need over loyatly to the one woman that actually cares about him. I hear unending justifications about what men need and how a real woman just need to suck it up. Apparently, together, the visual and the real woman, both feed a man's needs. So what does that tell women? Why should a real woman even try? Why shouldn't men just stick to the visual imagery since that is apparently want defines their level of masculinity by men's own accord. Men don't seem to define their masculinty by their level of self control and loyatly. They seem to define it by how much they need to self-feed their "visual" desires. It tells real women that on some level, they aren't enough and they need to settle for playing part of a package deal. Men need to spread their seed right? What's one woman when you can have 10? 10 beats 1 any day. What's a regular pair of normal shapped boobs to boobs that never sag? Visual aids to fullfill one set of standards and the real girlfriend/wf to fulfill another. Not like you or any of the other guys here really care though. You don't care what women deal with. You just care that you have more porn to oggle.

[MrNate]

That works both ways Woogle. The way some men act automatically puts some women on the defensive. You might be sick of being told your "pigs" but I am sick of men making their every sexual whim justification to treat women a certain way. The "I'm visual so I can just stomp all over what a woman wants because what *I* need is what counts" attitude that men have sucks.

 

 

Apparently they are mutually exclusive otherwise this discussion for men or woman wouldn't exist. You don't consider them mutally exclusive because it's real easy for men to put women into seperate boxes that serve their purpose. Visual imagery and fantasy of unrealistic women in one column serves one set of needs. And the *real* everyday girlfriend you have to settle for that doesn't meet your visual desires serves another. I never hear the men on this board defend or stand up for their girlfriends or wives when it comes to the "visual". I've heard TONS of men defend their desire for porn, or to oggle the check out girl, or any number ofvisual stimulous men apparently need over loyatly to the one woman that actually cares about him. I hear unending justifications about what men need and how a real woman just need to suck it up. Apparently, together, the visual and the real woman, both feed a man's needs. So what does that tell women? Why should a real woman even try? Why shouldn't men just stick to the visual imagery since that is apparently want defines their level of masculinity by men's own accord. Men don't seem to define their masculinty by their level of self control and loyatly. They seem to define it by how much they need to self-feed their "visual" desires. It tells real women that on some level, they aren't enough and they need to settle for playing part of a package deal. Men need to spread their seed right? What's one woman when you can have 10? 10 beats 1 any day. What's a regular pair of normal shapped boobs to boobs that never sag? Visual aids to fullfill one set of standards and the real girlfriend/wf to fulfill another. Not like you or any of the other guys here really care though. You don't care what women deal with. You just care that you have more porn to oggle.

 

 

It's true. We are definitely being trolled, guys.

 

 

Have you ever thought men don't defend women because certain WOMEN are accusing men of possessing inappropriate behavoirs? So we apologize, after your silly accusations, for not running to your side to defend your points.

[TheBigQuestion]

 

Apparently they are mutually exclusive otherwise this discussion for men or woman wouldn't exist. You don't consider them mutally exclusive because it's real easy for men to put women into seperate boxes that serve their purpose. Visual imagery and fantasy of unrealistic women in one column serves one set of needs. And the *real* everyday girlfriend you have to settle for that doesn't meet your visual desires serves another. I never hear the men on this board defend or stand up for their girlfriends or wives when it comes to the "visual". I've heard TONS of men defend their desire for porn, or to oggle the check out girl, or any number ofvisual stimulous men apparently need over loyatly to the one woman that actually cares about him. I hear unending justifications about what men need and how a real woman just need to suck it up. Apparently, together, the visual and the real woman, both feed a man's needs. So what does that tell women? Why should a real woman even try? Why shouldn't men just stick to the visual imagery since that is apparently want defines their level of masculinity by men's own accord. Men don't seem to define their masculinty by their level of self control and loyatly. They seem to define it by how much they need to self-feed their "visual" desires. It tells real women that on some level, they aren't enough and they need to settle for playing part of a package deal. Men need to spread their seed right? What's one woman when you can have 10? 10 beats 1 any day. What's a regular pair of normal shapped boobs to boobs that never sag? Visual aids to fullfill one set of standards and the real girlfriend/wf to fulfill another. Not like you or any of the other guys here really care though. You don't care what women deal with. You just care that you have more porn to oggle.

 

I don't know about other men, but I've never had a girlfriend that DIDN'T satisfy most or all of my visual/sexual desires. The reason you don't hear men defending their women about anything is because MOST men that post here do NOT have a significant other, and many are chronically single and sexually frustrated. You went form talking about images of women in the media to guys wanting to have sex with 10 women instead of one. Take a moment to gather your thoughts so you can decide what you're really arguing here. You're talking about hot women on billboards and magazines and men's infidelity/promiscuity in the same breath.

[Crusoe]

It's true. We are definitely being trolled, guys.

 

 

 

No MrNate, you are not.

[SarahRose]

It's true. We are definitely being trolled, guys.

 

 

Have you ever thought men don't defend women because certain WOMEN are accusing men of possessing inappropriate behavoirs? So we apologize, after your silly accusations, for not running to your side to defend your points.

 

That's right with an image or video, there is no criticism only 100% imaginary adoration.