Backster Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 My wife is planning a seven day Mexican Rivera cruise with two of her single girlfriends. She has purchased three very sexy, slinky, come hither cocktail dresses for the evenings and a different set of skimpy sheer mesh and lace bras and bikini panties for each outfit. Red lingerie for the black dress, etc. She says she wants to have fun and look nice and maybe go out dancing, but that I shouldn’t worry about anything. She is in her late 40s and has a rocking hot body, draws guys like a magnet and is naturally flirtatious. Admittedly, in some ways I find it exciting and I'm happy for her, but frankly I’m not sure what to make of it all. She’s going, that’s for sure and I support her in that. I think she deserves some time with her friends. Does anything actually happen on these cruises or is it mostly couples and not a heavy single scene that I shouldn’t sweat it? Link to post Share on other sites
linwood Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 My wife is planning a seven day Mexican Rivera cruise with two of her single girlfriends. She has purchased three very sexy, slinky, come hither cocktail dresses for the evenings and a different set of skimpy sheer mesh and lace bras and bikini panties for each outfit. Red lingerie for the black dress, etc. She says she wants to have fun and look nice and maybe go out dancing, but that I shouldn’t worry about anything. She is in her late 40s and has a rocking hot body, draws guys like a magnet and is naturally flirtatious. Admittedly, in some ways I find it exciting and I'm happy for her, but frankly I’m not sure what to make of it all. She’s going, that’s for sure and I support her in that. I think she deserves some time with her friends. Does anything actually happen on these cruises or is it mostly couples and not a heavy single scene that I shouldn’t sweat it? Dude for the love of god man!! I spent my teens and twenties working on popular resort islands on the coast of Florida. The place was crawling with wives on vacation with their friends having left their husbands behind. It was heaven for us young single beach boys. You won`t want to believe me but your wife is looking for much more than a good innocent time with her friends. She will be with a man in some way or other. My experience tells me this is a fact A woman never buys such undergarments and lingerie for themselves. I had a little chuckle over your seeming naivete when reading your post so my wife came over to read it over my shoulder. She says to tell you not to allow this and start watching her closely. If she absolutely refuses to give up this vacation then either make it a dealbreaker or buy a ticket on the same cruise just to screw with her because she`s definitely screwing with you. I can`t tell you how many "faithful" wives I`ve had who were thousands of miles from their husbands and anyone who would recognize/know them. You cannot let this happen...no way. Link to post Share on other sites
Owl Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 Agreed. Tell her point blank that you're not comfortable with this...at all. Tell her that you know that this is the worst thing she could do for your marriage. You love her, but you know that the temptations are going to be there and she's going to really want to make some bad choices...so going like this is nothing but a potential death sentence for your marriage. Remind her that she IS married...and going on cruises with her single friends dressed like that is NOT what a married woman who is faithful to her marriage would do. If she throws a fit...offer to go with her, so that you can enjoy those rocking outfits. Seriously...see what it would take to get a room for the two of you instead, and plan on going with her. See what she says/does. I'm betting that there's ALREADY more here going on than you've worked through. Link to post Share on other sites
bentnotbroken Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 Don't know your wife or how strong her boundaries are, but sounds like a bit more than just girl friends hanging. Sounds like a "flirt-cation." Link to post Share on other sites
Author Backster Posted June 1, 2010 Author Share Posted June 1, 2010 Well, actually, its not so much that I'm uncomfortable with her taking a trip with her friends, or that there will be other men around. I'm not. Frankly, there are plenty of available men and women everywhere. You don't have to travel 2000 miles for that. And she tends to dress pretty sexy when she goes to work most of the time already. I don't really care if she flirts and dances. I just don't know how far these things progress in that kind of environment, or if these kinds of cruises attract hordes of horny men that will be trying to pour shooters of tequila down her throat, or if its just a lot of older couples, newly weds and a few singles here and there. And if what linwood predicts to happen does happens, which is probably not a high odds, given that she has told me she's not interested in other men, does she come back a changed person? Link to post Share on other sites
califnan Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 Well, actually, its not so much that I'm uncomfortable with her taking a trip with her friends, or that there will be other men around. I'm not. Frankly, there are plenty of available men and women everywhere. You don't have to travel 2000 miles for that. And she tends to dress pretty sexy when she goes to work most of the time already. I don't really care if she flirts and dances. I just don't know how far these things progress in that kind of environment, or if these kinds of cruises attract hordes of horny men that will be trying to pour shooters of tequila down her throat, or if its just a lot of older couples, newly weds and a few singles here and there. And if what linwood predicts to happen does happens, which is probably not a high odds, given that she has told me she's not interested in other men, does she come back a changed person? ------------------------- So she's not interested in other men.. But she does wish to dress sexy for who .. Whether she goes to work or on this cruise.. if she isn't interested, she sure does wish to entice. What you are asking is: My wife wishes to go off with her girlfriends while dressing sexy at work and on the cruise, should I be worried about what's out there to take her up on it .. And I don't understand why couples have such open marriages.. A cruise should be for the enjoyment and togetherness of the husband and wife. Link to post Share on other sites
linwood Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 Frankly, there are plenty of available men and women everywhere. You don't have to travel 2000 miles for that. No but women are very concerned with "appearances" and you do indeed have to go far away if you wish no one to ever see you or discover your indiscretions. I`ve sat at many a beach bar sucking down tequila with some Indiana housewife who kept expressing how "Free" she feels being somewhere nobody knows her or her business. And if what linwood predicts to happen does happens, which is probably not a high odds, given that she has told me she's not interested in other men, does she come back a changed person? My friend, what else is she going to say to her husband? Is she going tell tell you she is interested in other men while she`s surfing Victorias secret for the sexiest lingerie she can find? The odds are much higher than you seem to believe. She isn`t buying it for you she`s buying it for this trip you`ve said so yourself. Why does she need new sex clothing for an innocent vacation? I`m not even implying she intends to do anything but I guarantee you the thought has entered her mind and after a day or so of her girlfriends flirting with every available attractive man on board telling her to "Loosen up no one knows you here" she`ll have that weak moment after a couple of cocktails. I always counted on it and was never disappointed. Link to post Share on other sites
jnj express Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 Hey backster---were you dropped on your head recently---- Your wife is going on a cruise, with all kinds of men, booze, alcohol, no H. around----and you arn't worried. I suggest you read all the posts on the various sites, by those who have been betrayed--but thought nothing would/could happen---they TRUSTED their wife---get real----you want to know what pain is like---good luck---problem is you will never know What i wanna know is why are you not going with your wife on this cruise, why is she going with other women---who probably are looking forward to who knows what. Your wife could have 5 ONS in a row, and you will never know it. If I were you I would stop this vacation right here and now---I would never have allowed it in the 1st place----YOU ARE A MARRIED COUPLE---you do social things TOGETHER. If your wife doesn't like you not allowing her to go---too bad---and she WILL play the you don't trust me card. Too bad--remind her again and again she is married not single. Right now YOU ARE ALLOWING her to play the single's script----believe me you WILL REGRET this Link to post Share on other sites
rewe4reel Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 The only reason a woman would go on a cruise like that is to f*ck. Since you're not going with her, she won't be f*cking you. Right now you shouldn't be doubting linwood--instead you might want to seriously consider setting up a betting pool on the over/under of how many different men your wife ends up doing on this cruise. Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 I can understand her wanting some new things to wear on her trip but the sexy undergarments are unnecessary unless she knows they will be seen. I am a woman and I know of women who have gone on "girls vacations" and one was bragging about having sex with a 16 year old guy. These are married women mind you. If you don't feel comfortable and you must not or you wouldn't have come to LS then stand up and tell her so. This is unacceptable. Link to post Share on other sites
Dexter Morgan Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 My wife is planning a seven day Mexican Rivera cruise with two of her single girlfriends. yup, and why do you think she is going with 2 single friends for 7 days without you? I can see where this is headed without reading the rest. She has purchased three very sexy, slinky, come hither cocktail dresses for the evenings and a different set of skimpy sheer mesh and lace bras and bikini panties for each outfit. yup, and why do you think that is? Red lingerie for the black dress, etc. lingerie for a trip? boom, thats all you need to know. She is planning on showing these off to other guys...then she will be taking it off with other guys, I can guarantee you. She says she wants to have fun and look nice and maybe go out dancing, but that I shouldn’t worry about anything. what does she need lingerie for to go out dancing and look nice? Or is she going to wear lingerie in public. Dude, face it, she is planning on cheating. No ifs ands or butts. And she is married, highly inappropriate to take a trip with 2 single women. She is in her late 40s and has a rocking hot body, draws guys like a magnet and is naturally flirtatious. Admittedly, in some ways I find it exciting and I'm happy for her, but frankly I’m not sure what to make of it all. She’s going, that’s for sure and I support her in that. if that were true, you wouldn't be posting here. if you support her going away for 7 days with sexy new outfits and nocturnal wear, then you are supporting yourself being a cuckold. I think she deserves some time with her friends. I agree, but not 7 day excursions with single women and buying new lingerie for the trip. Does anything actually happen on these cruises or is it mostly couples and not a heavy single scene that I shouldn’t sweat it? oh you are naive. Dude, she is planning on cheating, again, that I can guarantee. Deep down you know it, otherwise you wouldn't be posting here. but hey, if you plan on just putting up with it, then maybe when she gets back you can plan a trip with the guys to Vegas or something, and buy yourself some nice new clothes to attract the ladies when you are gone. Naturally I'm kidding, but you are enabling her to cheat. Link to post Share on other sites
Dexter Morgan Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Agreed. Tell her point blank that you're not comfortable with this...at all. Tell her that you know that this is the worst thing she could do for your marriage. You love her, but you know that the temptations are going to be there and she's going to really want to make some bad choices she's already planning on making bad choices and the temptation hasn't even presented itself yet. she IS planning on having sex with other guys. Link to post Share on other sites
seibert253 Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 I'm sorry dude, I don't know your wife, but IMO she's feeding you a load of crap. Sexy underware, slinky dresses. Women dress like that for a reason, and it's not for intelligent conversation. Throw in her single friends, alcohol, and horny dudes, you've got a mix for a disaster in the making. If she goes, she WILL have sex with someone else. I will bet the farm on it. You probably will never know 'cause she'll never tell you, and her friends won't dime her out. If I were you, I'd make it crystal clear this trip is inappropriate and unacceptably disrespectful to you and your M. I'd tell her I understand the need for her to have "her" time, but not at the expense of you and your M. Let her know you are adimently against her going, but you will not stop her if she choses to go. But, in the next breath I'd probably tell her the set of D papers will be on the kitchen table when she gets home. Link to post Share on other sites
Iconoclast Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 You're worried now, no matter how much you dismiss it. That's why you're here. You're gonna panic while she's away. "I want to come with you" is a great test. Alternative; tell her you have no problem with it if she takes a polygraph upon return. When she accuses you of not trusting her, just laugh and say "Nope. Under those conditions, I trust no one." Link to post Share on other sites
Dexter Morgan Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Well, actually, its not so much that I'm uncomfortable with her taking a trip with her friends, or that there will be other men around. I'm not. Frankly, there are plenty of available men and women everywhere. You don't have to travel 2000 miles for that. yes, but she can cheat while 2000 miles away from you for 7 days and the chances of you finding out are virtually zilch. She knows that you can't just show up and catch her in the act. And she tends to dress pretty sexy when she goes to work most of the time already. I don't really care if she flirts and dances. flirting is showing sexual interest in someone else. So you don't care if she shows sexual interest in other guys? Link to post Share on other sites
Dexter Morgan Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 You're worried now, no matter how much you dismiss it. That's why you're here. You're gonna panic while she's away. "I want to come with you" is a great test. Alternative; tell her you have no problem with it if she takes a polygraph upon return. When she accuses you of not trusting her, just laugh and say "Nope. Under those conditions, I trust no one." oh I like this idea. and you can get a polygraph for about $500 roughly. question to be asked: Did you have any inappropriate contact with any other men: Did you have sex with any other men: And on the off chance she didn't get lucky(which a woman would have to be a downright nasty dog not to), Did you go with the intention of possibly hooking up or having sex with other men: Link to post Share on other sites
califnan Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 oh I like this idea. and you can get a polygraph for about $500 roughly. question to be asked: Did you have any inappropriate contact with any other men: Did you have sex with any other men: And on the off chance she didn't get lucky(which a woman would have to be a downright nasty dog not to), Did you go with the intention of possibly hooking up or having sex with other men: ------------------ Throw in the cost of a private detective.. All and all .. a dog leash would be cheaper.. Link to post Share on other sites
Toodamnpragmatic Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Yes you want to trust her, but then tell us she is a big flirt. What about her friends? Gorgeous singles or frumpy dumped housewives? Heck you no longer have to worry about older males hitting on her, but her playing the "cougar" and men just loving it. My wife has traveled with her single flirty friend and nothing (I promise you) has happened. However a cruise is a tough proposition to accept. The good news is she is not going to a resort, where you have to worry about not only the guests, but all the local staff (not a problem on a cruise). The bad news is buying new lingerie, which she should be modelling for you.... If you trust her, let her go, she'll do what she wants to do, and if that is cheating it will happen sooner or later. Of course I trust my wife 100%..... She hates sex:p:D:lmao:.... Link to post Share on other sites
califnan Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 You know what they had in the olden days .. in place of the bikini panties ... Chastity belts, corsets ... and long skirts ... then we wouldn't be having this discussion.. Link to post Share on other sites
naturegirl Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 It could be that she takes pride in her body and wearing sexing things makes her feel confident and sexy and it's simply for herself. She could gain confidence from the adoration of others and wearing sexy attire achieves that need in her. It could also be that she wants to keep up with her sexy friends and they are just having some girl fun. There is nothing wrong with wanting to dress in a way that makes you feel confident. I personally am quite conservative but I don't really look down my nose on others who dress provacatively. Here's the deal....you obviously are concerned. Address those concerns with her directly and honestly. That's being true to yourself and honest with her and making her aware of your concerns. How could this be bad???? Link to post Share on other sites
linwood Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 You know what they had in the olden days .. in place of the bikini panties ... Chastity belts, corsets ... and long skirts ... then we wouldn't be having this discussion.. I prefer the discussion. Link to post Share on other sites
califnan Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 I prefer the discussion. --------------- I know .. it sounds harsh - But .. the Husband got to keep the Key to the chastity belt.. Link to post Share on other sites
naturegirl Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 C-Nan--You are simply wonderful in every way shape and form. You are one of the most loving and kind posters on LS. Your posts are always supportive and kind. You rock, girlie. Link to post Share on other sites
califnan Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 C-Nan--You are simply wonderful in every way shape and form. You are one of the most loving and kind posters on LS. Your posts are always supportive and kind. You rock, girlie. -------------------- Sweetpea, that is such a nice thing for you to say .. Thank you! Wish I could keep an even keel .. Will have to admit on threads such as this one, I do get carried away with some tongue n cheek humor.. Link to post Share on other sites
Krytie TV Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 OP, it's obvious from your post that if your wife hasn't already walked all over you then she soon will be. Oh wait, she is now. Listen, man. You'll come here and ask advice (and I will tell you that if she isn't already a frat mattress she's planning on it) but you're not willing to see or hear the truth right now. Once you get pissed off enough and are actually in a position to believe that it actually is possible for your wife to be deceitful, come on back and work it out with others. Link to post Share on other sites
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