How important is education in your SO?

[SarahRose]

Wow. LS has a lot of members with PH's and masters. Sexy time.

 

I get the feeling that some are commenting here merely to be defensive. I don't think that was the point of the OP. If you don't think that education is important in dating, then good for you!

 

Leave the nerds to me. . This is just another preference, in the hundreds of preferences we all have in dating.

 

And I'm the Queen of England

[VertexSquared]

Yeah. In addition to faculty and resources, it's all about networking. If you want to be an i-banker, a Princeton, Yale, or Harvard degree and a good GPA will automatically get your foot in the door unless you're totally incompetent. Someone at a school that isn't so prestigious, connected, and flooded with recruiters has to work ten times as hard to stand out among the applicant pool.

 

Exactly -- if you graduate from my school with a 3.5-3.7+ and apply to an ibanker spot, you've pretty much got an insane salary + bonus locked into place.

 

But on the other side of the coin, you've also got no life locked into place. LOL.

[donnamaybe]

You're definitely not the only person. I feel the same way. I get so annoyed with my family saying it's "so important" for me to get a "good job". What's a "good job" for most people? One that pays a whole lot of money. As long as I have enough to live without struggling, I'm happy, and that's all I require from my partner in terms of earning potential also.

 

And don't feel like you have to apoligize [sic] for your viewpoint either.

[bluewolf17]

And don't feel like you have to apoligize [sic] for your viewpoint either.

 

 

Agreed :laugh::laugh:

[Ihavenoidea]

Sure, "most" people might graduate with a Bachelors and get a 9-5 job in a general sense. But not everyone graduates with the same Bachelors from the same school and winds up in the same job, nor do they have the same skill sets and opportunities. Some routes are more rigorous than others, but are more rewarding in different ways. It's often considered ambitious to do what is difficult.

 

That wasnt my point irregardless of actual jobs, schools and degrees.

 

People do the same thing as everyone else, they work a job for however many years and retire. Wee all pretty much run the same rat race as the next person so I dont see what so ambitous about getting a degree when you are 22 then spend the rest of your life working a job to retire. Sounds pretty much like to opposite to me.

 

Sounds like a pretty average person to me.

 

My argument is is a degree can hardly represent accomplishment and ambition, but it can be a stepping stone that most people dont take a step on to.

[Engadget]

And I'm the Queen of England

 

Yeah I know, it is the internet where lying can be easily achieved. Want to prove it? Post a poll asking for men's height or penis size, chances are it will be well above the average, I've seen it happen on numerous forums.

[Engadget]

You're definitely not the only person. I feel the same way. I get so annoyed with my family saying it's "so important" for me to get a "good job". What's a "good job" for most people? One that pays a whole lot of money. As long as I have enough to live without struggling, I'm happy, and that's all I require from my partner in terms of earning potential also.

 

Exactly, I feel the same way. People view jobs as who they are, I don't. When you meet someone new almost every time the first thing they ask is "What do you do?" as if it defines you.

 

Frankly I'd rather make just enough doing something I love than be rich being something like an accountant. Life shouldn't be about work alone, otherwise will you really be happy when you die?

[TheBigQuestion]

I also agree. I find the whole materialistic mindset pretty disgusting. I can't understand how people defend it without somehow lying to themselves.

[Mimolicious]

There's nothing wrong with parents helping their kids, BUT like Marsle said, a degree/education may say a person is more ambitious, etc. etc. Coasting on your parents dime makes you lazy, and unable to support yourself. Not qualities I look for in a person. I'd much rather someone who's worked their whole life, rather than someone who barely had jobs and went to school.

 

Real world experience > College

 

Well, don't get it twisted. My kids will have to work. My 15yr old already does. I've been working since I was 13, had 2 jobs and went to school full-time. I do agree that no college has taught me what I know, experiences have. To be honest in recruiting, a lot of times we went with the person who had the hefty resume instead of the person from who just graduated from an Ivy League school. Learning curve is a pain at some positions and some companies don't even want to bother! True Story. School doesn't teach experience.

 

I just don't see why anyone may view Marsle85 as a free loader. It's her parents, not like is a man she is with for tuition. I have a friend that is with her BF who cheats, she wont leave him because he pays for her tuition. Talk about FREE EDUCATION. Go get a job at a corporation where they reimburse tuition.

[Mimolicious]

Yeah I know, it is the internet where lying can be easily achieved. Want to prove it? Post a poll asking for men's height or penis size, chances are it will be well above the average, I've seen it happen on numerous forums.

 

 

:lmao::lmao: I can't. I asked Lakeside Runner a question and he seemed to have totally missed it. I could have sworn that I once read a post of his, where he said he was 26. If so there is NO POSSIBLE way you have 3 Master's and a PH D. Sorry! Unless you graduated HS at 12 and NOT EVEN! Lakeside- no disrespect but I'm just saying...

[Ihavenoidea]

:lmao::lmao: I can't. I asked Lakeside Runner a question and he seemed to have totally missed it. I could have sworn that I once read a post of his, where he said he was 26. If so there is NO POSSIBLE way you have 3 Master's and a PH D. Sorry! Unless you graduated HS at 12 and NOT EVEN! Lakeside- no disrespect but I'm just saying...

 

 

At 26 it is unlikely but People have gotten MS's in 5 years and often PhD programs range from 2-3 years restricted and with dual masters prgrams by the age of 26 if you spent all your time at school you could have you PhD and a couple Masters so it is do-able.

 

Brand New doctors and Dentists have PhD's by there mid 20's

[tigressA]

Exactly, I feel the same way. People view jobs as who they are, I don't. When you meet someone new almost every time the first thing they ask is "What do you do?" as if it defines you.

Frankly I'd rather make just enough doing something I love than be rich being something like an accountant. Life shouldn't be about work alone, otherwise will you really be happy when you die?

 

That annoys me too. I realized that I do it just as much as everyone else though. It's entrenched in our society, I think. Just consider the way we answer that question:

 

"What do you do?"

"I'm a teacher/doctor/lawyer."

 

Note that it's not "I work as a...", it's "I am a..."

[VertexSquared]

That wasnt my point irregardless of actual jobs, schools and degrees.

 

People do the same thing as everyone else, they work a job for however many years and retire. Wee all pretty much run the same rat race as the next person so I dont see what so ambitous about getting a degree when you are 22 then spend the rest of your life working a job to retire. Sounds pretty much like to opposite to me.

 

Sounds like a pretty average person to me.

 

My argument is is a degree can hardly represent accomplishment and ambition, but it can be a stepping stone that most people dont take a step on to.

 

Okay, if you're going to go by that logic, then maybe just living isn't worth doing because everyone else is doing it.

 

We all have to work. Not everyone gets to work something difficult, meaningful, and fun. Not everyone gets the same access to higher education. Not everyone experiences the same tracks of intellectual expansion.

 

A Bachelors degree can definitely provide you with this if you utilize it correctly. Not all Bachelors and tracks are built alike.

[VertexSquared]

That annoys me too. I realized that I do it just as much as everyone else though. It's entrenched in our society, I think. Just consider the way we answer that question:

 

"What do you do?"

"I'm a teacher/doctor/lawyer."

 

Note that it's not "I work as a...", it's "I am a..."

 

I think this is because we spend so much of our lives working such that, to some extent, I think we ARE defined by what we choose to do as our professions.

 

However, I do think there is a difference between a job and career. A job is like a hat you can hang up when you leave, but a career is a more passionate extension of yourself. Of course, this isn't true in all cases, and some people just work to make ends meet and couldn't care less about being passionate about their work, but I think this is why people tend to associate themselves strongly with what they do.

[Ihavenoidea]

Okay, if you're going to go by that logic, then maybe just living isn't worth doing because everyone else is doing it.

 

We all have to work. Not everyone gets to work something difficult, meaningful, and fun. Not everyone gets the same access to higher education. Not everyone experiences the same tracks of intellectual expansion.

 

A Bachelors degree can definitely provide you with this if you utilize it correctly. Not all Bachelors and tracks are built alike.

 

Isnt that why I said tis a stepping stone?

 

And no you cant compare that logic to living itself, Im saying that obtaining a BS is nothing special go out and do something that is ana accomplishment that is ambitious, like climbing Mount Everest, or scale it down to climbing all of Colorado's 14k ft peaks, Im saying do something out of the norm. Living is already part of the norm, living is basic survival thats a silly argument to try and defend with. getting a degree is part of the norm.

 

I really can't even discuss anything further with you after a very unusual and unrelated counter argument. I spend more time eplaining the actual concept of the argument than actually debating with you. :(And im starting to get slightly frustrated that you just arent getting it because everything you quote and counter has nothing to do with the POINT

Edited June 8, 2010 by Ihavenoidea

[VertexSquared]

Isnt that why I said tis a stepping stone?

 

And no you cant compare that logic to living itself, Im saying that obtaining a BS is nothing special go out and do something that is ana accomplishment that is ambitious, like climbing Mount Everest, or scale it down to climbing all of Colorado's 14k ft peaks, Im saying do something out of the norm. Living is already part of the norm, living is basic survival thats a silly argument to try and defend with. getting a degree is part of the norm.

 

I really can't even discuss anything further with you after a very unusual and unrelated counter argument. I spend more time eplaining the actual concept of the argument than actually debating with you. :(And im starting to get slightly frustrated that you just arent getting it because everything you quote and counter has nothing to do with the POINT

 

No, I feel like you are misunderstanding me. Getting a Bachelors IS an accomplishment in itself, and some Bachelors ARE more ambitious to pursue that are NOT the norm, unlike what you imply.

 

It's not an unusual counterargument because you're trying to equate something ambitious as something that is "the norm."

 

To expand your analogy, some Bachelors would be like climbing a few hills. Graduating a top school with a top Bachelors would be like Everest.

[Ruby Slippers]

This thread is a whole lot of ego. It's funny, absurd, and sad.

[sweetjasmine]

To clarify I have a degree, and think it's overstated. Same with "earning potential" and money in general. Those things don't even factor into who I date, at all.

 

I feel like the only person who thinks money is an afterthought, and I only need money to live. People who obsess over it baffle me, and I hate the materialistic mindset so many people in the US subscribe to, it disgusts me.

 

I don't want to define myself by my occupation and how much I earn.

 

But honestly, with the collapse of the middle class, I'm definitely worried about finding a job that pays well just so I can keep my head above water. Two-income families are taking on a great deal of risk, and income volatility has increased in the past 30 years. If you want a family with children, you need to be very careful or you'll end up in debt up to your eyeballs.

[electricity]

I went to a top 5 undergrad and once tried dating a guy who went to a lower ranked school (still top tier, a school I highly respect). He kept bringing it up in our arguments and eventually we stopped talking. The first thing I need to make sure is that he's OK with and not intimidated by my accomplishments.

 

My basic requirement is a top tier undergrad. To me, it's a matter of lifestyle. I want someone who had similar experiences to me growing up, whose formative years in college were similar to mine, and who has the intelligence and drive to get into and graduate from a comparable university. I'm friends with people who went to lower ranked universities, and their lives are just so different from mine that I couldn't ever see myself marrying someone with such an outtake on life.

 

I don't care about graduate degrees, especially at my age. I know several brilliant PhDs who don't know how to live life, or who have no interests outside their field. I want someone to experience life with.

[Lakeside_runner]

This thread is a whole lot of ego. It's funny, absurd, and sad.

 

RS - I've to totally agree with you. It is sad when people who graduated with a bachelor's degree from a good university display basic disregard for people who never have had this opportunity in life. Perhaps this is the reason why they're still single?

[sweetjasmine]

RS - I've to totally agree with you. It is sad when people who graduated with a bachelor's degree from a good university display basic disregard for people who never have had this opportunity in life. Perhaps this is the reason why they're still single?

 

Who's doing that?

[Lakeside_runner]

Who's doing that?

 

I've my picks. It may be just a general feeling from reading some of the posts.

[Mr White]

I went to a top 5 undergrad and once tried dating a guy who went to a lower ranked school (still top tier, a school I highly respect). He kept bringing it up in our arguments and eventually we stopped talking. The first thing I need to make sure is that he's OK with and not intimidated by my accomplishments.

 

My basic requirement is a top tier undergrad. To me, it's a matter of lifestyle. I want someone who had similar experiences to me growing up, whose formative years in college were similar to mine, and who has the intelligence and drive to get into and graduate from a comparable university. I'm friends with people who went to lower ranked universities, and their lives are just so different from mine that I couldn't ever see myself marrying someone with such an outtake on life.

 

I don't care about graduate degrees, especially at my age. I know several brilliant PhDs who don't know how to live life, or who have no interests outside their field. I want someone to experience life with.

 

 

Allright, this is where I step in and call bull****. As a professor in a graduate program I am exposed to students that have done their undergraduate work all over the place - from the bottom of the barrel, all the way up to the nation's top 10. The basic truth is that from within the pool that I observe in our graduate program, both morons and gifted students are just as likely so show among the alumni of the top and among the lesser schools.

 

While I respect any good school, the sense of entitlement that ivy graduates walk around in is laughable. There are plenty of students in BIg State Uni that give you run for your money any day of the week . So, either go hug your diploma, or do something meaningful with your life.

[Lakeside_runner]

Allright, this is where I step in and call bull****. As a professor in a graduate program I am exposed to students that have done their undergraduate work all over the place - from the bottom of the barrel, all the way up to the nation's top 10. The basic truth is that from within the pool that I observe in our graduate program, both morons and gifted students are just as likely so show among the alumni of the top and among the lesser schools.

 

While I respect any good school, the sense of entitlement that ivy graduates walk around in is laughable. There are plenty of students in BIg State Uni that give you run for your money any day of the week . So, either go hug your diploma, or do something meaningful with your life.

 

Mr. White - thank you for that post. I couldn't express my outrage better than that. "Go hug your diploma" :lmao:

[Yamaha]

I like an intellegent women but having a degree is not important in the scheme of things. As long as we can communicate, laugh, have fun it matters not if she went to a ivy school or the local community college. I make enough money so any income from her would be an added bonus.

Maybe I don't set my sights high enough in the monitary way but happiness is more important than money any day of the week.