How important is education in your SO?

[brainygirl]

I prefer educated men because no matter how intelligent they start out, if all they can talk about is sports, huntin, fishin, and work, we aren't going to have much to talk about.

 

Those who get snooty about which school their potential SO went to are beign rediculous. I am a teacher and went to an excellent state university for my undergrad and both graduate degrees, to imply that I would be a less enjoyable partner than someone who went to a huge, expensive university when all other factors are equal is just silly.

 

I've dated smart guys, guys with important jobs, dumb guys with low paying jobs and smart guys working jobs was too menial for their brains or educations.

 

The best ones to date are smart men who like their jobs. The worse to date are dumb men who work at walmart.

[iheartlavalamps]

I was reading through this post, and noticed a trend in my life. I've dated a good variety of guys, ranging from literally borderline retarded, to borderline genius, and here's what I've noticed.

 

The one who is the best educated made the worst boyfriend. The man I'm with now is the BEST boyfriend I've ever had, and he didn't finish high school, yet he has more to offer and is generally better than everyone else.

 

The ones who made it out of high school but didn't finish college are both total *******s.

 

Out of 6 guys. . . 2 were high school drop-outs, 1 (maybe 2) are college drop-outs, and 2 will definitely finish.

 

That being said, I guess education really isn't important to me. I wish my boyfriend had finished high school, but he didn't and had he not told me, I'd never have known the difference.

[brainygirl]

Heh I know exactly which Ivy you attended now.

 

I have a friend who went to an "Ivy Legue" school in mo, all of her tuition was paid by working on campus.

[donnamaybe]

I prefer educated men because no matter how intelligent they start out, if all they can talk about is sports, huntin, fishin, and work, we aren't going to have much to talk about.

 

If that's all they can talk about, they were NOT intelligent from the get go.

[Engadget]

I think a lot of elitist attitudes are bred at Ivy schools. I know at my own school they are not afraid to tell us that we will be viewed in a certain way in academia and the funding world simply for the name plastered on our degrees (and that this name should land us a position at an equally awesome school...which will also affect our ability to be funded). Behind closed doors the faculty admit to us that school prestige matters and they work that to their advantage and so should we.

 

I can see where this attitude comes from. I would be silly not to acknowledge that my degree will have a lot of weight, but I don't understand those who let it define who they are.

 

Being proud of it is fine, being arrogant and looking down on everyone is not.

[VertexSquared]

Being proud of it is fine, being arrogant and looking down on everyone is not.

 

The problem is that a lot of people mistake pride for arrogance/snobbery. I am very, very proud of my school and accomplishments, but to many this would be considered "arrogant," and I might get accused of "looking down" on others when this is not the case.

 

Would me wanting a smart girl from a top school be "arrogant" or somehow distasteful or indicative of "looking down" on others? How would this be different from a guy who generally wants to dates brunettes? Or a woman who wants only tall men? Would a preference for X imply "looking down" on not-X? I see nothing wrong with wanting someone who also shares a similar educational background.

[Ihavenoidea]

The problem is that a lot of people mistake pride for arrogance/snobbery. I am very, very proud of my school and accomplishments, but to many this would be considered "arrogant," and I might get accused of "looking down" on others when this is not the case.

 

Would me wanting a smart girl from a top school be "arrogant" or somehow distasteful or indicative of "looking down" on others? How would this be different from a guy who generally wants to dates brunettes? Or a woman who wants only tall men? Would a preference for X imply "looking down" on not-X? I see nothing wrong with wanting someone who also shares a similar educational background.

 

This also makes, sense, I suppose I just never understood what there was to be proud of. I went t the number one ranked Aeronautical School in the country.

 

"Daytona Beach's aerospace engineering degree program ranks number one in the US News & World Report college rankings of aerospace engineering degree schools without a PhD program. Embry-Riddle has received this honor every year since the category was introduced in 2001."

 

Its JUST college, whats the big fricken deal.

 

To me its like the parents that have bumperstickers that say "My kid is an honor student and blah blah ELEMENTARY School, I just laugh when I see those.

 

Just my opinion though.

 

I think it boils down to that no one else cares where you went to school so when you wear this pride on your sleeve itjust irratates people. I know it does me, because honestly I dont care where you went, I dont even care where I went, theres a lot more important things in life than where you went to school

Edited June 9, 2010 by Ihavenoidea

[VertexSquared]

Being proud of it is fine, being arrogant and looking down on everyone is not.

 

This also makes, sense, I suppose I just never understood what there was to be proud of. I went t the number one ranked Aeronautical School in the country.

 

"Daytona Beach's aerospace engineering degree program ranks number one in the US News & World Report college rankings of aerospace engineering degree schools without a PhD program. Embry-Riddle has received this honor every year since the category was introduced in 2001."

 

Its JUST college, whats the big fricken deal.

 

To me its like the parents that have bumperstickers that say "My kid is an honor student and blah blah ELEMENTARY School, I just laugh when I see those.

 

Just my opinion though.

 

I think it boils down to that no one else cares where you went to school so when you wear this pride on your sleeve itjust irratates people. I know it does me, because honestly I dont care where you went, I dont even care where I went, theres a lot more important things in life than where you went to school

 

Certainly true that there are more important things in life -- but a BA from a good school is a far, far, far cry from "Elementary Honor School Kid" and I am saying that trying to discredit the former as a sort of non-ambitious pseudoaccomplishment would be an unfair claim.

[jackson30]

Sorry... got lost in all the posts. What was the question?

 

Edit: Found it. I'm 30 and I've been doing combined degrees so that made it possible. As far as the timeline goes it is very doable to graduate from college and get a PhD by the age of 27-28. 26 is a bit too soon although there are some programs and fields where the very nature of work is so different that it may make it possible. Even within mathematics - it's "easier" to get a PhD if one does combinatorics vs. say PDEs, but this is just my personal opinion based on comparison of the time it takes to graduate.

 

I had to take combinatorics for my grad degree, almost killed me.

[Ihavenoidea]

Certainly true that there are more important things in life -- but a BA from a good school is a far, far, far cry from "Elementary Honor School Kid" and I am saying that trying to discredit the former as a sort of non-ambitious pseudoaccomplishment would be an unfair claim.

 

Actually, how is it any different.

 

In the end no one cares except yourself so why boast about it.

[Engadget]

The problem is that a lot of people mistake pride for arrogance/snobbery. I am very, very proud of my school and accomplishments, but to many this would be considered "arrogant," and I might get accused of "looking down" on others when this is not the case.

 

Would me wanting a smart girl from a top school be "arrogant" or somehow distasteful or indicative of "looking down" on others? How would this be different from a guy who generally wants to dates brunettes? Or a woman who wants only tall men? Would a preference for X imply "looking down" on not-X? I see nothing wrong with wanting someone who also shares a similar educational background.

 

Yeah that is pretty snobbish actually I must say, I can't comprehend even having that as a requirement, same goes for the rest of what you described.

 

Personality matters, education does not. They can be complete morons and be educated, or intelligent and not be. Life doesn't allow for everyone to be educated, so it's incredibly snobbish actually.

[torranceshipman]

'Would me wanting a smart girl from a top school be "arrogant" or somehow distasteful or indicative of "looking down" on others? How would this be different from a guy who generally wants to dates brunettes? Or a woman who wants only tall men? Would a preference for X imply "looking down" on not-X? I see nothing wrong with wanting someone who also shares a similar educational background.'

 

Maybe it is a similar social class, as opposed to education, that you are looking for?

[Ihavenoidea]

'Would me wanting a smart girl from a top school be "arrogant" or somehow distasteful or indicative of "looking down" on others? How would this be different from a guy who generally wants to dates brunettes? Or a woman who wants only tall men? Would a preference for X imply "looking down" on not-X? I see nothing wrong with wanting someone who also shares a similar educational background.'

 

Maybe it is a similar social class, as opposed to education, that you are looking for?

 

I think you hit the nail on the head with this one, they think they are better and are looking for someone they think are better. Its very ignorant however to view/judge someone based on what insignifficant school they went to

[torranceshipman]

I don't think that it is necessarily a bad thing to look for someone of a similar social class, as long as it is communicated in a positive way. But I think in that poster's statement, it came across as a bit arrogant.

[Ihavenoidea]

After reviewing some of these responses I find it amusing how defensive people get over where they went to school and how important it is. I imagine that most people defending themselves either attended college right after highschool or are currently in school and wont experience both sides of the coin

[VertexSquared]

Maybe it is a similar social class, as opposed to education, that you are looking for?

 

Yes. I come from a very low, crappy social class. I wouldn't want to date some entitled rich girl (I HAVE dated such girls before and I just can't stand it). I want someone from a good school who comes from a "lesser" social class, since that most closely matches me. My current girlfriend fits this bill and we get along famously. I prefer educated women because they tend to be intelligent and easier to converse with. I have a really hard time relating to potential girlfriends who don't share a similar background. Either they were raised rich and expect me to be willing to poop Benjamins for them all the time, or they come from a lower-tier school and are, *on average*, harder to relate to intellectually and life-track-wise.

 

I'm a huge nerd and enjoy everything from art to movies to computers to finance to language to games to history to politics, and I can have these conversations much more easily with those who are educated. This isn't to say that personality does not matter, but personality ALONE is not enough for me -- I need intellectual stimulation or I get bored. Intellectual stimulation also comes in the form of humor and wit, mind you.

 

Yeah that is pretty snobbish actually I must say, I can't comprehend even having that as a requirement, same goes for the rest of what you described.

 

Personality matters, education does not. They can be complete morons and be educated, or intelligent and not be. Life doesn't allow for everyone to be educated, so it's incredibly snobbish actually.

 

I am not implying that education matters more than personality. For me, I'd want *both* to be present. I don't think it's necessarily snobbish to want an educated, intelligent woman.

Edited June 9, 2010 by VertexSquared

[VertexSquared]

Actually, how is it any different.

 

Because one is *far* rarer and more difficult than the other. I don't see why we're even debating this. Would you not agree than "ambition" could be defined by pursuing something "against the norm" that is difficult, much like your Everest example? Why, then, do you think that something fairly easy and common -- an Elementary Honors kid -- is comparable to something rarer and far more difficult like getting into a good college and emerging with a good GPA in a difficult subject?

 

Where, in this line of logic, are you disagreeing, and why?

[Mimolicious]

How many men in this thread would in a heart beat date Jessica Alba, Jessica Biel, Jennifer Lopez, Mariah Carey, Adrianna Lima? NONE have higher education but all have careers, achievements, millions of dollars. The irony...

[Ihavenoidea]

Because one is *far* rarer and more difficult than the other. I don't see why we're even debating this. Would you not agree than "ambition" could be defined by pursuing something "against the norm" that is difficult, much like your Everest example? Why, then, do you think that something fairly easy and common -- an Elementary Honors kid -- is comparable to something rarer and far more difficult like getting into a good college and emerging with a good GPA in a difficult subject?

 

Where, in this line of logic, are you disagreeing, and why?

 

Your aregument is based on Rarity LOL.

 

That elemntary student had to work just as hard as you to learn all the state capitals as you had to learn calculus, The ratio of difficulty is the same based on education level.

 

One education is more or less required while the other is optional and considering the amount of people getting a degree you can hardly say its RARE.

 

Degrees are the new highschool deploma. Almost everyone is getting them.

 

Thats why you come off as a snob. You think you are special and unique because you have what about 33% of the US has

Edited June 9, 2010 by Ihavenoidea

[WintersNightTraveler]

Actually, how is it any different.

 

In the end no one cares except yourself so why boast about it.

 

LOL. You really can't see how something like having a physics degree from Princeton is different than having been on 5th grade honor roll, and you really think it doesn't make a substantial difference in your life? Sure thing.

 

A lot of people are being disingenuous in this thread. Education is not the be all and end all, but is at the very least a valid thing to consider. And that could go either way (as in preferring it, or seeing it as a yellow flag).

 

It would also be nice if everyone stopping ignoring the fact that in many cases, how much you have to pay for school has a lot more to do with how you scale on the FAFSA than what school you choose (at least in the USA).

[Mimolicious]

Watch your mouths with the "Elementary School Honor Student"- my son goes to a gifted and talented school therefore HE IS BETTER THAN ANY OF MY FRIEND'S KIDS!!!!! :laugh: I kidd... I kidd!

[Ihavenoidea]

LOL. You really can't see how something like having a physics degree from Princeton is different than having been on 5th grade honor roll, and you really think it doesn't make a substantial difference in your life? Sure thing.

 

A lot of people are being disingenuous in this thread. Education is not the be all and end all, but is at the very least a valid thing to consider. And that could go either way (as in preferring it, or seeing it as a yellow flag).

 

It would also be nice if everyone stopping ignoring the fact that in many cases, how much you have to pay for school has a lot more to do with how you scale on the FAFSA than what school you choose (at least in the USA).

 

Obviously is a significant difference I am saying the "accomplishment" is the same is there is nothing special about getting a degree.

 

according to the US census bureau 1 in 3 people in the US have a BS or higher its certainly not rare or special

[Ihavenoidea]

Watch your mouths with the "Elementary School Honor Student"- my son goes to a gifted and talented school therefore HE IS BETTER THAN ANY OF MY FRIEND'S KIDS!!!!! :laugh: I kidd... I kidd!

 

Which means he will get into Hardvard and be better than the rest of the US population, thats aweomse.

[TheBigQuestion]

How many men in this thread would in a heart beat date Jessica Alba, Jessica Biel, Jennifer Lopez, Mariah Carey, Adrianna Lima? NONE have higher education but all have careers, achievements, millions of dollars. The irony...

 

No, Yes, No, No, Maybe, to all those women you named respectively. :D

[VertexSquared]

How many men in this thread would in a heart beat date Jessica Alba, Jessica Biel, Jennifer Lopez, Mariah Carey, Adrianna Lima? NONE have higher education but all have careers, achievements, millions of dollars. The irony...

 

With 100% honesty and certainty, I can say, "not me" -- I don't jump for those kind of girls in a heartbeat. A cute, nerdy, intelligent girl, though? Ohhh yeah.