marsle85 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Vertex, I see you're a snob too now. according to the US census bureau 1 in 3 people in the US have a BS or higher its certainly not rare or special According to you, everyone has a degree. The other 2/3 have a degree in "life experience". Link to post Share on other sites
WintersNightTraveler Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Obviously is a significant difference I am saying the "accomplishment" is the same is there is nothing special about getting a degree. according to the US census bureau 1 in 3 people in the US have a BS or higher its certainly not rare or special Vertex and several other posters are obviously not talking about just any degree. To use the same example from before, a physics degree from Princeton is quite special. Having just any degee is not, but that is not what is being debated (at least not at this point in the thread, it seems to have started differently). I disagree vehemently with the posters who see a top tier school as a requirement. In fact, I had the worst dating experiences of my life while I was at a top tier school. But it's certainly not an insignificant consideration. Link to post Share on other sites
Mimolicious Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 (totally jacking this thread ) US only? He'll be far more dateable than those kids that haven't had the FABULOUS life experiences he has. He wouldn't be able to relate to them anyway... I've attended private and public schools in 4 different countries. FYI- The education system in the US is not chipped, or cracked, it's shattered!! Link to post Share on other sites
Ihavenoidea Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 here is another tidbit from the US Census Bueau, 1 in 3 people will attend college ut of those 3 1 will not graduate high school therefore only 2 of the 3 are eligable to actually go to College and one of the 2 eligable go, making of all the people who are capable of going to gollege only 50% go, WOW college degrees are so rare only 100 million people in the Us have them. - Sarcasm Link to post Share on other sites
VertexSquared Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Your aregument is based on Rarity LOL. Excuse me but "my argument is not based on rarity" -- I am building off of your own arguments here. See below: People do the same thing as everyone else, they work a job for however many years and retire. Wee all pretty much run the same rat race as the next person so I dont see what so ambitous about getting a degree when you are 22 then spend the rest of your life working a job to retire. Sounds pretty much like to opposite to me. Sounds like a pretty average person to me. Im saying that obtaining a BS is nothing special go out and do something that is ana accomplishment that is ambitious, like climbing Mount Everest, or scale it down to climbing all of Colorado's 14k ft peaks, Im saying do something out of the norm. [...] getting a degree is part of the norm. This, to me, is a "rarity" argument. You're saying "everyone else pretty much does the same thing -- do something difficult that nobody else does." Or did you intend for your quotes to mean something different, here? That elemntary student had to work just as hard as you to learn all the state capitals as you had to learn calculus, The ratio of difficulty is the same based on education level. This is just a ludicrous and wildly-disporportionate analogy. Even from a relative-difficulty level, elementary school is loads easier than advanced calculus. One education is more or less required while the other is optional and considering the amount of people getting a degree you can hardly say its RARE. Degrees are the new highschool deploma. Almost everyone is getting them. Thats why you come off as a snob. You think you are special and unique because you have what about 33% of the US has What I have is not what the other 33% of the US has. Link to post Share on other sites
Ihavenoidea Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Vertex and several other posters are obviously not talking about just any degree. To use the same example from before, a physics degree from Princeton is quite special. Having just any degee is not, but that is not what is being debated (at least not at this point in the thread, it seems to have started differently). I disagree vehemently with the posters who see a top tier school as a requirement. In fact, I had the worst dating experiences of my life while I was at a top tier school. But it's certainly not an insignificant consideration. I am talking about any degree because I was going to finish my degree and get my MS in Engineering Physics at the nations #1 Aerospace Engineering school, degree type doesnt matter Link to post Share on other sites
Ihavenoidea Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 @Vertex What do you have thats so awesome? Even after you answer that the only thing that is worth rewarding you with is a cooke, "want a cookie" Link to post Share on other sites
Mimolicious Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 With 100% honesty and certainty, I can say, "not me" -- I don't jump for those kind of girls in a heartbeat. A cute, nerdy, intelligent girl, though? Ohhh yeah. You nerd! I'm going to send you a poster of Jessica Biel in a itty-bitty bikini and glasses. You're in NYC just like me. Link to post Share on other sites
marsle85 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 here is another tidbit from the US Census Bueau, 1 in 3 people will attend college ut of those 3 1 will not graduate high school therefore only 2 of the 3 are eligable to actually go to College and one of the 2 eligable go, making of all the people who are capable of going to gollege only 50% go, WOW college degrees are so rare only 100 million people in the Us have them. - Sarcasm What? Your posts are nearly incomprehensible. Link to post Share on other sites
Ihavenoidea Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 What? Your posts are nearly incomprehensible. LOL I know I am at work, so I am typing really fast, so I tend to not use proper grammer LOL, sorry Link to post Share on other sites
VertexSquared Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 I am talking about any degree because I was going to finish my degree and get my MS in Engineering Physics at the nations #1 Aerospace Engineering school, degree type doesnt matter This entire thread is about whether or not varying levels of education are important in a significant other or not. You receive various levels of education based on where you go for school, what types of degrees you pursue, and what majors you graduate with. To say all degrees are the same is like saying all cars are the same or all houses are the same. They all have varying facets. Link to post Share on other sites
VertexSquared Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 You nerd! I'm going to send you a poster of Jessica Biel in a itty-bitty bikini and glasses. You're in NYC just like me. The glasses would be a sexy touch... not gonna lie. (Un)fortunately though, the advertisement has to match the product! Link to post Share on other sites
Ihavenoidea Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 This entire thread is about whether or not varying levels of education are important in a significant other or not. You receive various levels of education based on where you go for school, what types of degrees you pursue, and what majors you graduate with. To say all degrees are the same is like saying all cars are the same or all houses are the same. They all have varying facets. BUT at the end of the day they are all horses, they are all cars, and a degree is just a piece of paper. Link to post Share on other sites
WintersNightTraveler Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 "Daytona Beach's aerospace engineering degree program ranks number one in the US News & World Report college rankings of aerospace engineering degree schools without a PhD program. I am talking about any degree because I was going to finish my degree and get my MS in Engineering Physics at the nations #1 Aerospace Engineering school, degree type doesnt matter You should have went into spin doctoring. Link to post Share on other sites
marsle85 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 So you were going to graduate from the "#1 Aerospace Engineering school"... did you? Link to post Share on other sites
VertexSquared Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 BUT at the end of the day they are all horses, they are all cars, and a degree is just a piece of paper. Then by your logic, any girl will do for you, then, since a relationship is just a partnership with a girl, right (assuming you are a straight male)? No standards? Link to post Share on other sites
Ihavenoidea Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 So you were going to graduate from the "#1 Aerospace Engineering school"... did you? Yes but I didnt have to so I didnt. I could if I wanted to but I dont need to. Link to post Share on other sites
Ihavenoidea Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Then by your logic, any girl will do for you, then, since a relationship is just a partnership with a girl, right (assuming you are a straight male)? No standards? I posted my "standards" earlier. I stated her education level did not matter as much to me as her career level, ie someone with a stable career., not just working part time and living with her parents but thats another topic more or less Link to post Share on other sites
marsle85 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Yes but I didnt have to so I didnt. I could if I wanted to but I dont need to. So you didn't graduate. I am unfamiliar with the prerequisites for an aerospace engineering degree. Is it a trade school? Did you have to graduate from an undergraduate program? What are you doing now? And what motivated you to go to school for aerospace engineering? Link to post Share on other sites
Ihavenoidea Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 So you were going to graduate from the "#1 Aerospace Engineering school"... did you? I suppose if the IT industry goes to crap, I can finish up my 6-8 classes or whatever and call it a day. This all seems off topic but, I always had a facination with flight and space, but IT paid way more. Link to post Share on other sites
marsle85 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 I suppose if the IT industry goes to crap, I can finish up my 6-8 classes or whatever and call it a day So you didn't graduate. You do not have a degree? Link to post Share on other sites
VertexSquared Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 I posted my "standards" earlier. I stated her education level did not matter as much to me as her career level, ie someone with a stable career., not just working part time and living with her parents but thats another topic more or less Sorry, but one career is just as good as another! Link to post Share on other sites
Ihavenoidea Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 So you didn't graduate. You do not have a degree? Nope, why should I? http://www.erau.edu/degrees/bachelor-degrees.html they have Undergrad, Graduate and PhD programs @Vertex I absolutely agree one career is as good as the next. Link to post Share on other sites
VertexSquared Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Nope, why should I? http://www.erau.edu/degrees/bachelor-degrees.html they have Undergrad, Graduate and PhD programs @Vertex I absolutely agree one career is as good as the next. The question is "good to what end"? If you're simply okay with a SO that brings in money and is self-supportive, that's one thing. But would this be compatible with the type of lifestyle you live, and would the relationship dynamics be compatible under such schedules? You may not care if a woman is "intelligent," but others might. You may not care that a woman "comes from a good family," but others might. You may not care if "a woman is a redhead or highly sexual or rich," but others might. People like what they like, and such things may be low-standard, no-standard, or high-standard. There are a variety of traits I desire in a woman, and I am going to get the best chances by looking in one area over another. For me, empirically, I've had the best luck with women who came from good schools with good degrees. Is "the piece of paper alone" what matters? No -- but the traits matter, and I am more likely to find that where that "paper" exists, the compatible/desired traits do too with a higher probability. Would I date a woman who was equally intelligent and driven and witty and nerdy but didn't go to a good school and came from a similar social background? Absofrickinlutely, but my point is that they're a lot harder to track down. Link to post Share on other sites
Ihavenoidea Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 The question is "good to what end"? If you're simply okay with a SO that brings in money and is self-supportive, that's one thing. But would this be compatible with the type of lifestyle you live, and would the relationship dynamics be compatible under such schedules? You may not care if a woman is "intelligent," but others might. You may not care that a woman "comes from a good family," but others might. You may not care if "a woman is a redhead or highly sexual or rich," but others might. People like what they like, and such things may be low-standard, no-standard, or high-standard. There are a variety of traits I desire in a woman, and I am going to get the best chances by looking in one area over another. For me, empirically, I've had the best luck with women who came from good schools with good degrees. Is "the piece of paper alone" what matters? No -- but the traits matter, and I am more likely to find that where that "paper" exists, the compatible/desired traits do too with a higher probability. Would I date a woman who was equally intelligent and driven and witty and nerdy but didn't go to a good school and came from a similar social background? Absofrickinlutely, but my point is that they're a lot harder to track down. Then I can agree, because when its all said and done, it comes down to our own opinion and what matters to us. Education level does not matter to me Education level does matter to you I think we can respect eachothers views and opinions and recognize that they are just different Link to post Share on other sites
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