Is it wrong for others not to know their place?

[jean-luc sisko]

I've worked with a couple of people, who were absolutely brilliant to the 10th power, and beyond. Such as, the lead engineer who designed the Lunar Module for Apollo 11... this guy could spin intellectual circles around me without any effort whatsoever, and I loved taking in every morsel of information he could provide, and that I could retain.

 

The thing of it was, is that he never made any attempts to belittle me, or dance around the fact that he knew way more than I did (He was getting well into his 70s by the time I knew him). I think he was actually unaware of just how far ahead of the curb he was, or if he did know, he wore it with amazing grace, and tact. Neither of which, you have shown.

 

Be a mentor, and teach people who are interested, even if they aren't as intelligent as you are. You'd be surprised, that not all people are as unintelligent as they would have you think.

 

I have no interest in teaching. Why should I? People are responsible for themselves in life.

 

Besides, I'm not a boastful person by nature. I just think that my talents should not be scorned at, and other people have to come to terms and cope with it. I am me, and who is to challenge the Good Lord if He gave me talents superior to others in my peer group? It's reasons like this that emotional intelligence and handling skills should be taught in schools.

[Tayla]

I have no interest in teaching. Why should I? People are responsible for themselves in life.

 

Besides, I'm not a boastful person by nature. I just think that my talents should not be scorned at, and other people have to come to terms and cope with it. I am me, and who is to challenge the Good Lord if He gave me talents superior to others in my peer group? It's reasons like this that emotional intelligence and handling skills should be taught in schools.

 

I couldnt agree with you more, so when are you going back to school to learn those skills? I'll pack your lunch for you

[ADF]

Political science

Marketing

UK political history

 

That's a list. I asked if you could expound. Let me give you an example of what I mean by that:

 

I happen to know a lot about linguistics. Have you ever noticed that some languages sound "fast" to you, while others don't? Well, that's an auditory illusion. No language is consistently spoken faster than any other.

 

The reason some languages sound "fast" to English speakers is because English is a stress-timed language, while some other languages (Spanish, for example) are syllable-timed.

 

In a stress-timed language, the stressed syllable in each word is drawn out longer than the unstressed syllables. In a syllable-timed language, all syllables get the same amount of time regardless of stress. When a speaker of a stress-timed language--e.g. English, Russian--hears a speaker of a syllable-timed language--e.g. Spanish, Italian--speaking, he or she often percieves that langauge as "faster" than their own. But it isn't so. The difference is in cadence, not speed.

 

Okay--that's what I meant by expounding. Can you do what I just did with linguistics with something you know a lot about?

[Toki]

Typically, I'd say genius falls outside of politics. I'd be a lot more impressed if it was something like thermal dynamics, or astrophysics.

[Malenfant]

Besides, I'm not a boastful person by nature. I just think that my talents should not be scorned at, and other people have to come to terms and cope with it. I am me, and who is to challenge the Good Lord if He gave me talents superior to others in my peer group? It's reasons like this that emotional intelligence and handling skills should be taught in schools.

 

if you carry this attitude around with you its no wonder your peers take offence. if you do then its not you 'superior intelligence' they're taking exception to, its your general arrogance and attitude that you're smarter than them.

try adding modesty to your many attributes and i'm sure people would like you a lot more.

 

being well informed in particular subjects does not make a person more intelligent, it just means they have studied. certain people pick up information more quickly than others. The ability to learn quicky is a type of intelligence, but not the only one.

 

The subjects you've listed are freely available for people to learn if they have the inclination to do so.

 

Other subjects are so complex that a person would have to have a natural apptitude and intelligence in that discipline in order to study and fully understand, like as Toki mentioned something like astrophysics.

 

However, a person clever enough to study such a subject may not have a high level of intelligence when it comes to social skills.

 

I wouldnt be so quick to elevate yourself above that of your peers.

[jean-luc sisko]

if you carry this attitude around with you its no wonder your peers take offence. if you do then its not you 'superior intelligence' they're taking exception to, its your general arrogance and attitude that you're smarter than them.

try adding modesty to your many attributes and i'm sure people would like you a lot more.

 

being well informed in particular subjects does not make a person more intelligent, it just means they have studied. certain people pick up information more quickly than others. The ability to learn quicky is a type of intelligence, but not the only one.

 

The subjects you've listed are freely available for people to learn if they have the inclination to do so.

 

Other subjects are so complex that a person would have to have a natural apptitude and intelligence in that discipline in order to study and fully understand, like as Toki mentioned something like astrophysics.

 

However, a person clever enough to study such a subject may not have a high level of intelligence when it comes to social skills.

 

I wouldnt be so quick to elevate yourself above that of your peers.

 

well they always have been jealous that i've been more mentally attuned than them, but such is life. If some people have low self-esteem, that's not my issue.

[You'reasian]

well they always have been jealous that i've been more mentally attuned than them, but such is life. If some people have low self-esteem, that's not my issue.

 

JLS, make yourself a better person and always help others out. Have the discipline to tune out bad attitudes, but be able to laugh at yourself now and then too.

[jean-luc sisko]

JLS' date=' make yourself a better person and always help others out. Have the discipline to tune out bad attitudes, but be able to laugh at yourself now and then too.[/quote']

 

Helping is good too. But helping oneself is also a positive thing.

 

We all have to manage our own emotions/feelings. Perchance, who do you help out?

[ADF]

Helping is good too. But helping oneself is also a positive thing.

 

We all have to manage our own emotions/feelings. Perchance, who do you help out?

 

I am still waiting for you to expound on some of these topics you claim to know so much about. When can I expect you to do that?

[Malenfant]

well they always have been jealous that i've been more mentally attuned than them, but such is life. If some people have low self-esteem, that's not my issue.

 

thats not actually a reply to anything i wrote.

you're either joking or unbelievably arrogant

[jean-luc sisko]

if you carry this attitude around with you its no wonder your peers take offence. if you do then its not you 'superior intelligence' they're taking exception to, its your general arrogance and attitude that you're smarter than them.

try adding modesty to your many attributes and i'm sure people would like you a lot more.

 

being well informed in particular subjects does not make a person more intelligent, it just means they have studied. certain people pick up information more quickly than others. The ability to learn quicky is a type of intelligence, but not the only one.

 

The subjects you've listed are freely available for people to learn if they have the inclination to do so.

 

Other subjects are so complex that a person would have to have a natural apptitude and intelligence in that discipline in order to study and fully understand, like as Toki mentioned something like astrophysics.

 

However, a person clever enough to study such a subject may not have a high level of intelligence when it comes to social skills.

 

I wouldnt be so quick to elevate yourself above that of your peers.

 

Are you sure? This question is in response to the emboldened text.

 

How many persons know, or even care for, the origin of natural rights theory? Or who the first anarchist writers were? Or what the origin of social democracy is? Are these abstract pieces of knowledge? Perhaps. But so is astrophysics. Politics affects all human interaction, in some sense. Astrophysics does not, and at most in a very loose and indirect sense. As an example, there is no part of the Earth's surface today not covered by some kind of law or legislation. So everybody is affected by the acts of governments. As social animals, we naturally have structures of governance.

 

Similarly, few would know of, or even care about, the General Electric Matrix of product portfolio analysis. Again, most if not all purchase goods and services. The same applies to perceptual mapping, or appraising service quality.

 

In contrast, knowing whether the speed of light is the fastest is clearly not pressing in most persons' lives. I would also say that in life, difficulty is relative. Everything is.

[TaraMaiden]

I've met some highly intelligent people in my time, but you take the biscuit as the biggest dumb-ass of the lot.

being intelligent doesn't make you clever, smart or intellectual.

It also doesn't make you popular.

YOU make you popular.

And judging by this thread - you have a long way to go.

If you're coming across as unpopular, and it sounds as if people resent your attitude - that is entirely of your making.

Not theirs.

You get back from people what they get from you.

And people are getting arrogance, a superiority complex (very misplaced) and the attitude that people owe you something.

people don't owe you anything.

you have to earn it.

 

*Must try harder.*

[jean-luc sisko]

Typically, I'd say genius falls outside of politics. I'd be a lot more impressed if it was something like thermal dynamics, or astrophysics.

 

I never said I was a genius. However, knowledge of how human society operates I would say is just as pertinent. It could be argued that the hard sciences are too abstract, which is why they have a higher percentage of persons with autistic disorders within them. This is by no means to slate such persons, i'm not cruel. But I disagree that some subjects are harder to comprehend, since difficulty is subjective.

 

Moreover, I would not say that persons such as the late Milton Friedman, Paul Krugman, Nathaniel Branden, or any other big past/contemporary figure in the social sciences were dullards. I'd simply say it requires a different mode of intelligence, and intelligence in general is subject to personal feeling.

[jean-luc sisko]

I've met some highly intelligent people in my time, but you take the biscuit as the biggest dumb-ass of the lot.

being intelligent doesn't make you clever, smart or intellectual.

 

It depends. Smarts is relative.

It also doesn't make you popular.

YOU make you popular.

 

Why would a 30 year old care about popularity? Lol. I'm a man, I have no time for those things.

And judging by this thread - you have a long way to go.

If you're coming across as unpopular, and it sounds as if people resent your attitude - that is entirely of your making.

Not theirs.

You get back from people what they get from you.

And people are getting arrogance, a superiority complex (very misplaced) and the attitude that people owe you something.

people don't owe you anything.

you have to earn it.

 

*Must try harder.*

 

I am never arrogant.

[ADF]

It depends. Smarts is relative.

 

 

Why would a 30 year old care about popularity? Lol. I'm a man, I have no time for those things.

 

 

I am never arrogant.

 

I am still waiting for you to expound. I thought you were brilliant. What's up?

[TaraMaiden]

It depends. Smarts is relative.

...."Smarts"....?

 

True.

 

My 2-year old relative is waaaaay smarter than you are.

 

 

Why would a 30 year old care about popularity? Lol. I'm a man, I have no time for those things.

yes.

Wait for the "If I'm so brilliant, how come I can't keep a woman happy?" thread.

I'm patient. It will come.

 

Lol.

 

 

 

I am never arrogant.

QED.....

[jean-luc sisko]

...."Smarts"....?

 

True.

 

My 2-year old relative is waaaaay smarter than you are.

 

Smarts are relative. I don't deem knowing which stars will supernova preferable over other knowledge.

 

 

yes.

Wait for the "If I'm so brilliant, how come I can't keep a woman happy?" thread.

I'm patient. It will come.

 

I don't really believe in dating, but thanks for the prediction. next, tell me if what next week's lotto numbers are.

Lol.

 

 

 

 

QED.....

 

I have not been arrogant in this thread. Can you cite where I have been?

[jean-luc sisko]

I am still waiting for you to expound. I thought you were brilliant. What's up?

 

when did I say I was brilliant?

 

I simply said that I was more mentally aware/capable than others in my peer group. I never have sought to inflame others of this, why should I? It's essentially since I have very often displayed traits without goading others of it.

 

by the by, I can give information on a number of subjects, even though I'm not obligated for your appraisal (nor should your appraisal have any objective basis )

 

 

Physical security is the process of providing the effectual security of a physical location. It encompasses all areas relating to keeping intruders out of an area, and the securing of all important and valuable items within it. The process has literally been in existence for millennia, since humans always have been in need of protecting homes, dwellings and residences from intrusion. The only difference between now and long ago is that the technology involved has altered, but not the central premise or methodology.

 

The process spans the following functions:

 

- Crime Prevention via Environmental Design

- Access Control

- Intrusion Detection

- CCTV monitoring

 

Essentially, these items represent layers that can be deployed in a physical facility. The first is the use of physical obstacles, such as bollards, to obstruct entry. This could also be bushes, fences, or other such barriers.

 

The second relates to determining who has access to a given area in a location. This can be done via the use of ID cards, or via the use of smart cards.

 

The third concerns the utilisation of alarm systems, to note unauthorised intrusion into an area, and to inform others of such an intrusion. There are lots of different modes of this, but a common one is the use of Passive Infra Red systems, which detect infra-red radiation emitted by human beings.

 

The fourth is the deployment of cameras to note and monitor movement around an area. This footage is then analysed, and used as means of tracking persons for apprehension and prosecution. Different types of cameras are Pan, Tilt, Zoom types, single lens, and domes. Footage is now often recorded via Digital Video Recorders or Network Video Recorders. They convert footage from cameras into files usable in computer-based information systems.

 

 

what other topics do you wish to know of?

[Ronni_W]

How many persons know, or even care for, the origin of natural rights theory? Or who the first anarchist writers were? Or what the origin of social democracy is?

jls,

The point is that people use their intellect to explore subjects related to their own interests and passions. Collectively, we need some people to know a whole bunch about natural rights theory, some other people to know a whole bunch about astrophysics...and still some other people to know a whole bunch about what Britney Spears is up to.

 

What each has in common is that it takes the same levels of interest and passion to want to study something, and it also takes the same brain cells/energy to learn and remember. Doesn't really matter if one is passionate about, and learning and remembering about Britney or some anarchist writer. The only difference is on what we choose to use our brain cells/energy. And we'll choose based on our unique tastes, preferences, values, etc. THAT is also how human society works.

 

Some people will appreciate info about Britney more than the origin of social democracy...for its entertainment value or whatever it is that actually turns them on. In the grand scheme of things, is the origin of social democracy really any more relevant to current-day society than whether or not Britney's wearing undies? And, who gets to decide the answer to that one? Me? You?

 

We'd both be highly ignorant if we thought either of us had that right and authority, or enough knowledge, wisdom and insight to decide such things for the other 6 billion of us. Don't you agree?

[ADF]

when did I say I was brilliant?

 

I simply said that I was more mentally aware/capable than others in my peer group. I never have sought to inflame others of this, why should I? It's essentially since I have very often displayed traits without goading others of it.

 

by the by, I can give information on a number of subjects, even though I'm not obligated for your appraisal (nor should your appraisal have any objective basis )

 

 

Physical security is the process of providing the effectual security of a physical location. It encompasses all areas relating to keeping intruders out of an area, and the securing of all important and valuable items within it. The process has literally been in existence for millennia, since humans always have been in need of protecting homes, dwellings and residences from intrusion. The only difference between now and long ago is that the technology involved has altered, but not the central premise or methodology.

 

The process spans the following functions:

 

- Crime Prevention via Environmental Design

- Access Control

- Intrusion Detection

- CCTV monitoring

 

Essentially, these items represent layers that can be deployed in a physical facility. The first is the use of physical obstacles, such as bollards, to obstruct entry. This could also be bushes, fences, or other such barriers.

 

The second relates to determining who has access to a given area in a location. This can be done via the use of ID cards, or via the use of smart cards.

 

The third concerns the utilisation of alarm systems, to note unauthorised intrusion into an area, and to inform others of such an intrusion. There are lots of different modes of this, but a common one is the use of Passive Infra Red systems, which detect infra-red radiation emitted by human beings.

 

The fourth is the deployment of cameras to note and monitor movement around an area. This footage is then analysed, and used as means of tracking persons for apprehension and prosecution. Different types of cameras are Pan, Tilt, Zoom types, single lens, and domes. Footage is now often recorded via Digital Video Recorders or Network Video Recorders. They convert footage from cameras into files usable in computer-based information systems.

 

 

what other topics do you wish to know of?

 

What does obligation have to do with anything? You're the one who started this.

 

But yes, that is what I meant by expounding. Though I admit, I have to wonder if you copied that ver batim from some book. The writing style you used above doesn't match the one you've been using so far in this thread.

 

[Trimmer]

Are you sure? This question is in response to the emboldened text.

 

How many persons know, or even care for, the origin of natural rights theory? Or who the first anarchist writers were? Or what the origin of social democracy is? Are these abstract pieces of knowledge? Perhaps.

I would call them obscure, but not particularly abstract. Most of the points you've cited can be "learned" by reading someone else's work and memorizing them.

 

When you can create something abstract, like a way to measure the relativistic influence on light from the origin of the universe through gravitational lenses, then you can tell me that you are able to think in the abstract, and I'll be impressed.

 

I never said I was a genius. However, knowledge of how human society operates I would say is just as pertinent.

Really? I would agree. But are you the same guy who said in another thread, where you mentioned that you punch people at will:

People can hit when they like. is there a reason they should not?

Is the guy who felt other people deserved to be hit for no better reason than "because I felt like it" really the same guy now telling us that a pertinent part of his superior intelligence is a knowledge of how human society works?

 

I'd simply say it requires a different mode of intelligence, and intelligence in general is subject to personal feeling.

Except that others should have the "personal feeling" that my intelligence is superior to theirs...

Edited June 14, 2010 by Trimmer

[Malenfant]

 

Physical security is the process of providing the effectual security of a physical location. It encompasses all areas relating to keeping intruders out of an area, and the securing of all important and valuable items within it. The process has literally been in existence for millennia, since humans always have been in need of protecting homes, dwellings and residences from intrusion. The only difference between now and long ago is that the technology involved has altered, but not the central premise or methodology.

 

The process spans the following functions:

 

- Crime Prevention via Environmental Design

- Access Control

- Intrusion Detection

- CCTV monitoring

 

Essentially, these items represent layers that can be deployed in a physical facility. The first is the use of physical obstacles, such as bollards, to obstruct entry. This could also be bushes, fences, or other such barriers.

 

The second relates to determining who has access to a given area in a location. This can be done via the use of ID cards, or via the use of smart cards.

 

The third concerns the utilisation of alarm systems, to note unauthorised intrusion into an area, and to inform others of such an intrusion. There are lots of different modes of this, but a common one is the use of Passive Infra Red systems, which detect infra-red radiation emitted by human beings.

 

The fourth is the deployment of cameras to note and monitor movement around an area. This footage is then analysed, and used as means of tracking persons for apprehension and prosecution. Different types of cameras are Pan, Tilt, Zoom types, single lens, and domes. Footage is now often recorded via Digital Video Recorders or Network Video Recorders. They convert footage from cameras into files usable in computer-based information systems.

 

 

what other topics do you wish to know of?

 

 

i happen to work for a company that supplies and installs bespoke access control equipment.

 

I haven't had to study the subect, yet I am fully aware of the systems you have outlined.

 

i'm surprised you said that you're 30, most 30 year olds I know have no interest in proving their intelligence, they just get on with life.

I'm interested about your peer group, I can only assume they are much younger than you

[jean-luc sisko]

What does obligation have to do with anything? You're the one who started this.

 

But yes, that is what I meant by expounding. Though I admit, I have to wonder if you copied that ver batim from some book. The writing style you used above doesn't match the one you've been using so far in this thread.

 

 

This is how I normally write.

[jean-luc sisko]

i happen to work for a company that supplies and installs bespoke access control equipment.

 

I haven't had to study the subect, yet I am fully aware of the systems you have outlined.

 

i'm surprised you said that you're 30, most 30 year olds I know have no interest in proving their intelligence, they just get on with life.

I'm interested about your peer group, I can only assume they are much younger than you

 

I don't have to prove anything. Besides, most persons aged 30 should be accepting of their own talents and abilities, and not say they feel inadequate or resentful for not being as adept.

 

In truth, most persons cannot care about intelligence, i do not.

 

And yes, people often deserve to be punched, c'est la vie.

 

As for simply regugitating information, well you have done this with linguistics. Most students of astrophysics do not develop theories in the subject, at least one that stand the test of time.

[Trimmer]

Actually, I believe you are highly intelligent, and I have no need to take anything away from that.

 

If I ever want to check on the accident record of Quantas Airways, I'll know just who to ask.