Is it wrong for others not to know their place?

[jean-luc sisko]

you contradict yourself.

 

Oh, and most are contradictory. It's the human condition.

[sally4sara]

No, bona fide psychologists say this. There would be no point in medicine if there was no research.

 

You can spout ultra-relativism if you wish, but I have limits, even though I'm a fellow relativist in general. I don't think anything goes, I have a sense of conscience. I bet you'd be the first to complain in an anything goes world.

 

Note how quickly you turn nasty at playful interaction. I don't think people who complain around you do so because you're oh so mentally superior to them.

You know, it was said to me once that in debate, the moment you lose your composure, you've lost the ability to make a valid point.

 

And since it has always been an anything goes world, I finish chose to finish with you.

[jean-luc sisko]

Well:

 

- you all have been rude to me.

- you have stated untruths, when some of you probably are psychologists anyhow.

- you were not playful.

 

I've finished with this also, since you're just spouting half-truths and dis-information.

[Axel Moses]

This is an absolutely ridiculous subject to even bring up much less try to support. People are not defined by a limited set of characteristics that hold them inside of limitations that they will never be able to hope to break out of.

 

Claiming oneself to be superior intellectually to others, and complaining that they are pathetic because they do not admit it and kiss their better's feet is absolutely and entirely egotistical and, in my opinion, quite a stupid thing to say.

 

Ugly people being told to accept that they do not hold physical value over those who are "pretty" is ignorant as there is no definition of what is "pretty". One person can look at a rose and weep at the absolute perfection and beauty of nature's art, the next person will see a red weed. Nothing is universally beautiful, and therefore, nothing can be defined as universally ugly.

 

The same goes for "intelligence". The world's most educated man is thrown into a game of soccer. He has spent years of his life studying and has all sorts of degrees and fancy titles. But he does not study sports. At this moment, he is as useless as any other person in the world who knows nothing about soccer. His "intelligence" is worthless to him at this moment.

 

Yes, he can learn the rules, but so can other people. Everyone has the capacity to learn and absorb knowledge. Some do it faster than others, but it is never -impossible- for somebody if they desire to learn the subject. Telling them to bow down because you learned it faster than them sounds a lot like a child screeching in joy and victory because he can tie his shoes faster than the other kids.

 

Your general worth as an intelligent human being isn't in how much you know, but what you do with it. Gloating and expecting others to acknowledge your intelligence or be labeled as "jealous" is a very unintelligent activity. I wouldn't consider anybody who thinks they have to be validated with praise for their intelligence as actually smart. Adults should act like adults. Not children competing for the daily gold star.

[jean-luc sisko]

This is an absolutely ridiculous subject to even bring up much less try to support. People are not defined by a limited set of characteristics that hold them inside of limitations that they will never be able to hope to break out of.

 

Claiming oneself to be superior intellectually to others, and complaining that they are pathetic because they do not admit it and kiss their better's feet is absolutely and entirely egotistical and, in my opinion, quite a stupid thing to say.

 

Ugly people being told to accept that they do not hold physical value over those who are "pretty" is ignorant as there is no definition of what is "pretty". One person can look at a rose and weep at the absolute perfection and beauty of nature's art, the next person will see a red weed. Nothing is universally beautiful, and therefore, nothing can be defined as universally ugly.

 

I disagree. Common psychological study and even society say different. If somebody told you they were ugly, I bet you would say to have confidence and cope.

The same goes for "intelligence". The world's most educated man is thrown into a game of soccer. He has spent years of his life studying and has all sorts of degrees and fancy titles. But he does not study sports. At this moment, he is as useless as any other person in the world who knows nothing about soccer. His "intelligence" is worthless to him at this moment.

 

Yes, he can learn the rules, but so can other people. Everyone has the capacity to learn and absorb knowledge. Some do it faster than others, but it is never -impossible- for somebody if they desire to learn the subject. Telling them to bow down because you learned it faster than them sounds a lot like a child screeching in joy and victory because he can tie his shoes faster than the other kids.

 

Your general worth as an intelligent human being isn't in how much you know, but what you do with it. Gloating and expecting others to acknowledge your intelligence or be labeled as "jealous" is a very unintelligent activity. I wouldn't consider anybody who thinks they have to be validated with praise for their intelligence as actually smart. Adults should act like adults. Not children competing for the daily gold star.

 

I believe worth is equal. Wholesome persons like myself do. Do you?

 

Besides, I posted a thread in this forum, and I said I wanted the same common wisdom that all others possess. You (collectively) shot me down. So why the back-track? If there are indeed no limits, then why should I be held back? That proves my point, as made earlier, that wild contradiction is part of the human norm.

Edited June 17, 2010 by jean-luc sisko

[Malenfant]

- you all have been rude to me.

only because you're being rude about other people, ie your friends

 

- you have stated untruths, when some of you probably are psychologists anyhow.

ah, truth, like most things is relative, wasnt this one of your own arguments?

 

- you were not playful.

dont dish it out if you cant take it

 

I've finished with this also, since you're just spouting half-truths and dis-information

that means we won

[jean-luc sisko]

only because you're being rude about other people, ie your friends

 

So?

 

ah, truth, like most things is relative, wasnt this one of your own arguments?

 

Sorry, but saying that depression is caused by chemical imbalances in the brain is not relative. And yes, everything is relative.

dont dish it out if you cant take it

 

Dish what out?

that means we won

 

I'm not here to win. Just chat. By the by, it was her who said she was desisting from the argument, so victory celebrations may be premature, eh?

[TaraMaiden]

boy, when you say you're going to give up, you sure don't give up, fighting, do you?

I thought you said you were done here?

or are people's comments sooooo irresistible, that you just can't stop yourself answering them?

 

That's a sign of a psychological dependency and desire to be validated; a low-self esteem issue, in other words....

 

Of course, this is what the whole tread is about to begin with. Your desperate desire to be validated and approved of, even though you have a burning indifference towards the feelings and sentiments of other people.

Classic.

[jean-luc sisko]

boy, when you say you're going to give up, you sure don't give up, fighting, do you?

I thought you said you were done here?

or are people's comments sooooo irresistible, that you just can't stop yourself answering them?

 

 

No, I like to play around.

That's a sign of a psychological dependency and desire to be validated; a low-self esteem issue, in other words....

 

Of course, this is what the whole tread is about to begin with. Your desperate desire to be validated and approved of, even though you have a burning indifference towards the feelings and sentiments of other people.

Classic.

 

What is classic?

[Malenfant]

 

I'm not here to win. Just chat. By the by, it was her who said she was desisting from the argument, so victory celebrations may be premature, eh?

 

you're not here to chat. the only threads you post on are your own.

You dont reply properly to people's questions regarding your previous comments, you just make rather ambiguous statements in an attempt to look clever.

 

maybe if you actually entered into an actual conversation people would take you more seriously.

 

I cant help thinking if this is the way you conduct yourself in the real world its no wonder your so called 'friends' dont like you.

I dont like you and I dont even know you.

[jean-luc sisko]

you're not here to chat. the only threads you post on are your own.

You dont reply properly to people's questions regarding your previous comments, you just make rather ambiguous statements in an attempt to look clever.

 

Why should I?

maybe if you actually entered into an actual conversation people would take you more seriously.

 

I cant help thinking if this is the way you conduct yourself in the real world its no wonder your so called 'friends' dont like you.

I dont like you and I dont even know you.

 

Well, friendship is about luck. Life is about luck.

[Malenfant]

Well, friendship is about luck. Life is about luck.

 

err.. thats your other thread

[jean-luc sisko]

well, by the by, I appear off since you don't seem like consistent and truthful people. So i'll desist for the time being.

[Trimmer]

Why should I?

 

 

Well, friendship is about luck. Life is about luck.

I thought you had stated pretty concretely that life is pain, so it sounds like a refinement of that statement would be "life is about bad luck."

 

I wish for you that your innate intelligence coupled with significant servings of good luck will take you far in your life. All the best.

[jean-luc sisko]

I thought you had stated pretty concretely that life is pain, so it sounds like a refinement of that statement would be "life is about bad luck."

 

I wish for you that your innate intelligence coupled with significant servings of good luck will take you far in your life. All the best.

 

life is about anything. i don't think life is about pain.

[Trimmer]

life is about anything. i don't think life is about pain.

I think someone else has been logging in on your account, then...

 

It simply logically follows. Life is pain, so we have a right to cause others pain.

 

Yes, life sucks. Which is why beatings are encouraged, since life is pain.

[threebyfate]

Wish LS had a popcorn smilie.

 

jean-luc, hope you're getting what you're looking for from LS. I can see that you are.

 

Btw, I know my place.

[jean-luc sisko]

I think someone else has been logging in on your account, then...

 

so? people are inconsistent.

[jean-luc sisko]

Wish LS had a popcorn smilie.

 

jean-luc, hope you're getting what you're looking for from LS. I can see that you are.

 

Btw, I know my place.

 

well, nobody sets my place. i do and can be who i please.

[threebyfate]

well, nobody sets my place. i do and can be who i please.

As it should be for everyone. Every statement needs a mirror. Capisce?

[Trimmer]

so? people are inconsistent.

I suppose once you have directly contradicted yourself, it's a little hard to recover, but that's the best that your substantial intelligence can come up with?

 

well, nobody sets my place. i do and can be who i please.

Sorry, but I think it's wrong for others not to know their place.

[shadowplay]

I'm trying to get a flavour of the kind of environment where someone who produces the posts we've seen from you thus far might be considered intellectually superior. Do you live/work in an institution for people with learning difficulties?

 

.............

[jean-luc sisko]

I suppose once you have directly contradicted yourself, it's a little hard to recover, but that's the best that your substantial intelligence can come up with?

 

 

Sorry, but I think it's wrong for others not to know their place.

 

There is no place in life, as there is no point in one. The only limits we have we place on ourselves.

[jean-luc sisko]

As it should be for everyone. Every statement needs a mirror. Capisce?

 

what is capisce? There is no such thing as a place.

[jean-luc sisko]

That's the problem. I still don't see any evidence of your talent, in anything.

 

 

They're right to. But I think you misinterpret their complaint. Have you misinterpreted ours?

 

 

Er...... yes, you are....

 

 

So it's a fact then that you're not as intelligent as you assume you are.

as it's not a fact.....

 

By the by, how good and wholesome a person are you? What in real life do you do that signifies this?