xpaperxcutx Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 I actually like Creatine and when I had been taking it previously, I noticed a significant increase in muscle mass. But like Chokie said, different people react differently to the same products. Right now the only supps I take are glutamine pre- and post- workout, omega 3, and multivitamin. You can never go wrong with EFA. Link to post Share on other sites
USMCHokie Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Most research suggest that it is a combination of sugar, stimulants and placebo effect giving you that boost from NO products: http://www.jissn.com/content/7/1/16 This is a very interesting study. Thanks for the link. I just briefly browsed through it, but will take a more careful read tomorrow. But I should make clear by saying that these supplements aren't magic formulas that will instantly make you stronger or increase your muscle mass (although they certainly advertise as such). They place your body in an advantageous "position" to do the work necessary to make those gains in strength and mass. It's up to you to decide whether to challenge your body beyond what you thought you were capable of. And yes, I feel that these supplements have allowed my body to do what my mind has challenged it to do. The bottle of creatine or nitric oxide cocktail isn't going to lift the weight for you. Link to post Share on other sites
tman666 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 This is a very interesting study. Thanks for the link. I just briefly browsed through it, but will take a more careful read tomorrow. But I should make clear by saying that these supplements aren't magic formulas that will instantly make you stronger or increase your muscle mass (although they certainly advertise as such). They place your body in an advantageous "position" to do the work necessary to make those gains in strength and mass. It's up to you to decide whether to challenge your body beyond what you thought you were capable of. And yes, I feel that these supplements have allowed my body to do what my mind has challenged it to do. The bottle of creatine or nitric oxide cocktail isn't going to lift the weight for you. QFT. No matter what gee whiz supplement a person is taking, it's no substitute for hard work, high intensity, and the desire to push one's limits. If a person chooses to spend their money on a supplement that they feel is helping them pursue their goals, then the primary goal of the supplement has been accomplished, regardless of the "active ingredient". This is assuming that we're talking about legal supplements here. Link to post Share on other sites
GrayClouds Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 This is a very interesting study. Thanks for the link. I just briefly browsed through it, but will take a more careful read tomorrow. I not saying that if something works for a person, they should stop. If it works, it works even if it is the placebo effect, really does not matter for still effecting. It is about making educated decisions how your spending your money to achieve your goal. The supplement industry is not about getting you fit it is about getting your cash, and like tman has said much of it is snake oil. But supplements can be that supplimental and as you repeated stated its going to be your genetics, diet and dedication that makes the difference.Though it a bit of snake oil helps to get you in the frame of mind, then the value of it is equal to what your will to pay for it. Link to post Share on other sites
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