Was I wrong?

[aerogurl87]

I'm 20 and still live at home with my parents. My dad got us a puppy about 3 months ago, and when he first got here I bought everything he needed as my dad and my mom didn't see the need to buy him a pet bed, food dish, collar, or toys. Anyway, so today my dad let the puppy out and left him outside alone, now this is after my mom and I forewarned him not to do this as he would leave the yard if left unattended. So my dad went back outside and saw that the puppy was near the street, so he brought him back in and disciplined him, which I was fine with. Then I start hearing yelps come from the puppy along with a "crack" noise. I go down the hall and see my dad holding the puppy down (whose shaking now) and beating him with this thick belt. So I tell my dad to stop, he doesn't, and so I grab the puppy and take him into my room where I try to calm him.

 

My dad gets upset and says it's not my place to stop him from "disciplining" the puppy. But I think it is my place to stop him from abusing an animal, which I believe he was. Now my dad wants to take the puppy to an animal shelter because he's "bad". Was I wrong for stopping my dad from hitting him even if he claims it's his puppy (although he's yet to do anything for him other than bring him home, he doesn't even have all his shots thanks to my parents). I'd like your opinions on this situation.

[xpaperxcutx]

You don't " discipline" your dog, you teach it how to behave.

 

In this case, yes your dad was in the wrong and you did the right thing of stopping him.

 

It was initially your dad's fault for leaving the dog outside, especially if you never fenced in your yard to keep the dog from running onto the street.

 

Tell your dad he can't beat the dog like he can't beat his kids. It's just wrong. And there are more tactical ways to teach a dog to not do something. I can't imagine if you never potty train your dog and then your dad decides to beat because it peed in the living room.

[aerogurl87]

You don't " discipline" your dog, you teach it how to behave.

 

In this case, yes your dad was in the wrong and you did the right thing of stopping him.

 

It was initially your dad's fault for leaving the dog outside, especially if you never fenced in your yard to keep the dog from running onto the street.

 

Tell your dad he can't beat the dog like he can't beat his kids. It's just wrong. And there are more tactical ways to teach a dog to not do something. I can't imagine if you never potty train your dog and then your dad decides to beat because it peed in the living room.

 

Well my dad has abusive tendencies anyway, he once choked my sister because she didn't hurry to wash the dishes in the amount of time he wanted them done (she's moved out now thank goodness). He tells me it wasn't my place to stop him though. I told him it was my place to stop him from abusing a poor, helpless puppy. Now I know he's gonna make up something when my mom gets home and to make it seem like I was out of line and of course my mom will take his side.

 

But yeah I don't want him to go as I really love him, but at least if he goes he'll have a chance of ending up with a better family. That's how I look at it.

[TaraMaiden]

If I was anywhere near your father right now, I'd take a belt to him.

I'm a dog behaviourist, and I would absolutely flail him alive.

if you cannot guarantee the safety of this animal, get rid of him.

Otherwise, call the cops on your dad, because his taking a belt to this puppy, is like whipping a 3-year old.

 

People like your father make me sick to my stomach and they don't deserve any leniency.

Thank your lucky stars I wasn't there, or you'd be fatherless by now.

Stone me, it would take an army to hold me back.

What a hateful, cruel and inhuman thing to do.

He's an imbecile, a cretin and a moron.

 

You can tell I'm angry, can't you? :mad: :sick:

[xpaperxcutx]

Well my dad has abusive tendencies anyway, he once choked my sister because she didn't hurry to wash the dishes in the amount of time he wanted them done (she's moved out now thank goodness). He tells me it wasn't my place to stop him though. I told him it was my place to stop him from abusing a poor, helpless puppy. Now I know he's gonna make up something when my mom gets home and to make it seem like I was out of line and of course my mom will take his side.

 

But yeah I don't want him to go as I really love him, but at least if he goes he'll have a chance of ending up with a better family. That's how I look at it.

 

 

If you care about the dog, then I suggest you turn it into another family who can take care of it.

 

You can't help it if your dad is abusive and it saddens me that you have made no mention that your dad is seeking help.

[aerogurl87]

If I was anywhere near your father right now, I'd take a belt to him.

I'm a dog behaviourist, and I would absolutely flail him alive.

if you cannot guarantee the safety of this animal, get rid of him.

Otherwise, call the cops on your dad, because his taking a belt to this puppy, is like whipping a 3-year old.

 

People like your father make me sick to my stomach and they don't deserve any leniency.

Thank your lucky stars I wasn't there, or you'd be fatherless by now.

Stone me, it would take an army to hold me back.

What a hateful, cruel and inhuman thing to do.

He's an imbecile, a cretin and a moron.

 

You can tell I'm angry, can't you? :mad: :sick:

 

Yeah I was pissed when I saw what he was doing, and I didn't care if he would've tried to stop me, I was getting that puppy out of harm's way. I thought of calling the cops on him, but I'm not going to, I'll probably take the puppy to the shelter myself Monday, even if he doesn't. He deserves a good home to grow up in and my parents aren't going to give it to him.

 

If you care about the dog, then I suggest you turn it into another family who can take care of it.

 

You can't help it if your dad is abusive and it saddens me that you have made no mention that your dad is seeking help.

 

He doesn't think he needs help. Him and my mom are both in denial that he's an abusive person. But yeah if I could take care of the puppy myself and ensure his safety I would, but financially I'm not in a position to do so right now unfortunately, so like I said I'd rather him be with a family that will take care of him.

[brainygirl]

You are 20 years old, your father has abused your sister, and a puppy and probably you. Your mom takes his side in these things.

 

I'm not so worried about the puppy as I am about you THE HUMAN who seems to be content to live in harm's way.

 

Get outta there.

[aerogurl87]

Aero, if you feel you can take care of the dog and keep your father from acting out irrationally like that then I would keep him. But if you feel at all that your father will lash out on the puppy then please take him to the shelter so he can find a good home. As it is I question your parents ability to raise an animal as they saw no need to get the puppy some basic necessities.

 

Reading what your dad did was quite depressing. He went to an extreme.

 

Yeah if I could I would, but I don't know what will happen when I'm not at home and I'm at work and that scares me. So I'm just going to take him to the shelter. Yeah they don't know anything about raising animals. I told my mom I was afraid he might've gotten cherry eye because his eye mysteriously turned red (although now I think that was from my dad hitting him) and we needed to take him to the vet to figure out what was going on. She asked me what cherry eye was and when I told her it was a condition that could lead to him becoming blind if not checked, she had the audacity to laugh and say "well looks like you'll have one half blind dog." *sigh* So yeah I'm taking him to the shelter and I'm gonna hope they can find him a nice home.

 

You are 20 years old, your father has abused your sister, and a puppy and probably you. Your mom takes his side in these things.

 

I'm not so worried about the puppy as I am about you THE HUMAN who seems to be content to live in harm's way.

 

Get outta there.

 

Nope he's never physically abused me. He's yelled at me before, but that was about as far as it ever went. I'm not afraid of my dad and he knows it, so maybe that's why. I'm working on moving out early next year though, thanks for your concern.

[AmEricanWomann]

Your dad sounds like a horse's patoot.

When it comes to MOST things, living in your parents home means you have to follow their rules, however there are some exceptions. Physical abuse of a helpless animal is one of those exceptions and no, you were not wrong. I'm sorry you can't move out of your house right away, then you could take the dog with you. But since you are stuck there for a while, you have to find the dog a place where it can be safe and well taken care of. Try to find a no kill shelter or see if you know anyone responsible who might be willing to take the pup. When you are able to get your own place, then you'll be able to have pets without fear of them being abused. Good luck to you.

[alphamale]

your dad sounds like a fine man

[stellaluna]

Your dad is lucky I didn't see this- I'd rip him apart. I'd actually beat him senseless. He beat a puppy with a belt? Give me your address.

 

Your father belongs in jail. If I ever saw this on the street- I could see myself killing someone.

 

It ****ing makes me sick to think there is a psycho out there whipping a scared defensless dog.

[Citizen Erased]

poor puppy. I'm glad you're taking him out of that environment.

 

In the future I'm sure you will discourage them from any future pets. I'd also advise you to monitor contact he has with any future children you may have. I know people like this, they can't control themselves when it comes to not getting what they want from smaller people or animals than themselves. I am so glad you're getting out of there.

[stellaluna]

poor puppy. I'm glad you're taking him out of that environment.

 

In the future I'm sure you will discourage them from any future pets. I'd also advise you to monitor contact he has with any future children you may have. I know people like this, they can't control themselves when it comes to not getting what they want from smaller people or animals than themselves. I am so glad you're getting out of there.

 

 

This ******* should be reported to the police- he beat a puppy. Why is everyone being so nice in there responses.

[Jilly Bean]

This ******* should be reported to the police- he beat a puppy. Why is everyone being so nice in there responses.

 

Because no one expects a 20-year old girl to turn in her Dad.

 

Agreed it was a deplorable act. But, you can't expect her to report her Dad.

 

Best thing is to find the puppy a new home.

 

Aero - this is a no-kill shelter, right?

[Pyro]

what a dickhead. Lets see how he feels with a few lashes from a belt.

[amerikajin]

Yeah, and choking your sister wasn't exactly cool, either.

[aerogurl87]

Because no one expects a 20-year old girl to turn in her Dad.

 

Agreed it was a deplorable act. But, you can't expect her to report her Dad.

 

Best thing is to find the puppy a new home.

 

Aero - this is a no-kill shelter, right?

 

Yeah it's in the next town over. Oh yeah I would report him but as I'm living in his house at the moment, that's not a viable option at the moment. I was going to report him when I was 16 and my sister told me what he did to her, but she begged me not to say anything. I would've been more than happy to see him hauled off to jail. And yeah CE my boyfriend and I were talking and we both decided if we do have kids in the future they will never be around my parents unless one of us is supervising. They already screwed up my nephew somehow (I don't know exactly what happened as my sister won't tell me) but I know they aren't allowed to be in contact with him anymore.

[AVR1962]

Definately animal abuse and there is doubt about it. All the dog was going to learn from your dad beating it was to hate him. The dog does not understand the punishment given to him. The dog will only learn not to trust. Dogs see their human family as a part of their animal family and so dominence is a factor in relating but not with a beating. Your dad failed the pup by letting him out of the hosue unattended in the first place. if you can find a good home for the puppy it might be best. I hate to think of an animal going to a shelter as many don't make it back out. Good luck!

[SLS002]

Well I don't think you are wrong to stop your dad to "discipline"the puppy,and by the way that's not discipline the puppy,that's called abuse! You should have a talk with your dad or maybe dont live with him for a while then.

[Dazzel]

I would seriously return the puppy to where you got the poor thing from. I don't mean to sound harsh, but I wouldn't want that thing to live under the same roof as your dad.

 

You don't take a belt to a dog to discipline them. Especially a little puppy! I wouldn't even do that to a person!

I see nothing wrong with correcting a dog's bad behavior. Of course you have to do that in order to train it. Bad using pain like that for wrongs is awful. A dog can learn without the pain. Buy him a book on dog training. No...scratch that. Do what I said and take the dog back.

 

Even if the dog is "yours", when you are not around and the dog does something to tick him off, he may just feel inclined to hurt him, especially since he has abusive tendencies.

 

Also, he wants to take the dog back for a small 'misbehavior'. Dogs don't come preprogrammed as to what is right and what is wrong. It must be taught. AND you need to catch the dog in the act. If the dog goes into the street and you take it inside to punish it, it's not even going to know what it did and you will teach it to fear you. And if he is ready to get rid of the dog already for such a small thing, he doesn't need to own one. A puppy will be a puppy. It's like a little kid. It will get into things and cause trouble.

[Art_Critic]

No, You were not wrong...

 

Your Dad and what he did was wrong.. and as a 20 year old you are adult enough to say so, but remember that you live under his roof and as such he can ask you to leave..

[Eeyore79]

Please take the dog to somewhere safe - your father is violent and the dog will have a miserable life because he will beat it constantly. No animal deserves that kind of abuse. Please, please give it the chance of having a happy life safe from abuse, and take it to a shelter or something.

[Art_Critic]

Look at this domestic violence wheel.

 

http://www.theduluthmodel.org/pdf/PhyVio.pdf

 

I love this tool..

 

Under the intimidation section is where abusing the animals falls.

He is abusing the animal as a way of intimidating you and your family.

[Clep]

I would phone animal services and the police. They can be the ones to tell him his behavior is not okay. I would also find another place to live as you will need a new place it seems after making those calls.