Does breast size matter?

[lilbunny]

Porn is just fantasy. It is meant to reflect what really doesn't happen in real life. To choose a cliche I can't say I have ever greeted the plumber in lingerie and lured him and his apprentice into my boudoir. The women are thin and tanned because it looks good on camera. It does the job that it was intended for, pure escapism. Let's be honest, even blokes who find those bodies appealing are unlikely to consider dating those women or taking them home to meet their mothers because they really want a 'nice' girl.

 

As for breast size, you can't make molehills look like mountains, so what you have is evident and if they don't like it then they can go elsewhere. Mine are huge. I make the most of them, love them, but sometimes I envy girls with less because they look better in certain clothes and often appear slimmer.

 

Attractive is superficial and short lived, sexy comes from within, so love whatever you have.

[LosingBattle]

I'm guessing that since you are insecure about your breast size, you feel the need to lash out when someone gives his honest opinion.

Is a woman less decent if penis size is a high priority?? I once had a guy who was as small as my second finger...so glad I'm marrying a man with a gloriously satisfying penis.

 

Sorry if you thought I was lashing out. The question is, why are YOU lashing out on me for being insecure? Yes, I am insecure, so? Does it affect you in any way? No? Then why lash out on me?

 

I just think meaningful relationships are based on more than penis size, and some men can't help their penis size the way I can't help my small breasts. I have been in the position of being rejected just because I'm almost flat, so yes, I think it's very bad to turn a man down solely because of penis size.

 

That's my opinion, if you don't like it, simply ignore it. If you felt offended, well, ignore it. I mean, if you are certain in your beliefs, some random girl's opinion online shouldn't affect you.

[LosingBattle]

Porn is just fantasy. It is meant to reflect what really doesn't happen in real life. To choose a cliche I can't say I have ever greeted the plumber in lingerie and lured him and his apprentice into my boudoir. The women are thin and tanned because it looks good on camera. It does the job that it was intended for, pure escapism. Let's be honest, even blokes who find those bodies appealing are unlikely to consider dating those women or taking them home to meet their mothers because they really want a 'nice' girl.

 

As for breast size, you can't make molehills look like mountains, so what you have is evident and if they don't like it then they can go elsewhere. Mine are huge. I make the most of them, love them, but sometimes I envy girls with less because they look better in certain clothes and often appear slimmer.

 

Attractive is superficial and short lived, sexy comes from within, so love whatever you have.

 

From what I've gathered talking to my male friends sometimes, thy would like to have sex with girls who look like the porn stars: slim, busty, shapely butt and legs. Maybe they don't want the porn star in particular, but they want the body type and the attitude. So it might be fantasy in the sense that they sometimes can't make it happen, but I'm sure given the opportunity to have sex with a girl who looks like that (STD free), they would, hands down.

 

I've also read many men feel dissatisfied with their wives bodies after birth and such because they have let themselves go and everything, and many of these men use porn as an escape. But not in a way of "well, my wife is not in the mood, I'll just go for a quick relief", more like "Dammit, I need to see some young meat!".

[ViciousViolet]

Sorry if you thought I was lashing out. The question is, why are YOU lashing out on me for being insecure? Yes, I am insecure, so? Does it affect you in any way? No? Then why lash out on me?

 

I just think meaningful relationships are based on more than penis size, and some men can't help their penis size the way I can't help my small breasts. I have been in the position of being rejected just because I'm almost flat, so yes, I think it's very bad to turn a man down solely because of penis size.

 

That's my opinion, if you don't like it, simply ignore it. If you felt offended, well, ignore it. I mean, if you are certain in your beliefs, some random girl's opinion online shouldn't affect you.

 

It sucks that this has happened to you. There is an entire porn genre of women who have small breasts, believe me...there are men who like smaller breasts! Whatever you lack on top can be made up elsewhere, like the behind:D.

[BobSacamento]

In terms of importance:

 

Body > Breast Size

[BlackLovely]

Sorry if you thought I was lashing out. The question is, why are YOU lashing out on me for being insecure? Yes, I am insecure, so? Does it affect you in any way? No? Then why lash out on me?

 

I just think meaningful relationships are based on more than penis size, and some men can't help their penis size the way I can't help my small breasts. I have been in the position of being rejected just because I'm almost flat, so yes, I think it's very bad to turn a man down solely because of penis size.

 

That's my opinion, if you don't like it, simply ignore it. If you felt offended, well, ignore it. I mean, if you are certain in your beliefs, some random girl's opinion online shouldn't affect you.

 

 

In this thread, your posts have an undertone of aggression and hostility. It's like you believe that everyone judges your breast size, so you reject them before they can reject you. How am I "lashing out" at you by pointing out a a trait of yours that we both agree on?? You are allowed to call yourself insecure, but nobody else can? How ridiculous!

 

Obviously, your personality has zero effect on my life. It's just that if you pose questions on an open forum like this, you need to be mature enough to accept that people will have opinions that you don't agree with.

 

I agree that relationships should not be defined by penis size. However, for many women, a man with a mini carrot in his pants cannot be satisfying.

 

I have known many small chested women, who have no trouble attracting men. Maybe you're trying too hard, or it could be that your unprovoked aggression turns men off.

[LosingBattle]

In this thread, your posts have an undertone of aggression and hostility. It's like you believe that everyone judges your breast size, so you reject them before they can reject you. How am I "lashing out" at you by pointing out a a trait of yours that we both agree on?? You are allowed to call yourself insecure, but nobody else can? How ridiculous!

 

Obviously, your personality has zero effect on my life. It's just that if you pose questions on an open forum like this, you need to be mature enough to accept that people will have opinions that you don't agree with.

 

I agree that relationships should not be defined by penis size. However, for many women, a man with a mini carrot in his pants cannot be satisfying.

 

I have known many small chested women, who have no trouble attracting men. Maybe you're trying too hard, or it could be that your unprovoked aggression turns men off.

 

Thank you for calling me many things that well, are plain not nice.

 

The way you speak about me being insecure makes it seem like it's the worst thing in the world, much worse than being say, shallow.

 

That's uncalled for. I mean so what if I'm insecure. And so what if I'm a bit defensive. Obviously you haven't grown up with the "online porn" generation of guys, who don't see anything wrong with silicone and what have you.

 

One time we were in class and they had a poster of a model who had recently got breast implants. They were all cheering something like "HOORAY FOR SILICONE!"

 

My generation is probably a bit different from the women who have no problem attracting men.

 

And you probably have never dealt with being called Pancakes. Yes, men like that are jerks, but it's not something that you just brush off easily. It does effect my self esteem.

 

Who knows, maybe now you'll call me weak.

[somedude81]

LosingBattle, do you have any problems getting men? Been single for a long time?

[ViciousViolet]

Thank you for calling me many things that well, are plain not nice.

 

The way you speak about me being insecure makes it seem like it's the worst thing in the world, much worse than being say, shallow.

 

That's uncalled for. I mean so what if I'm insecure. And so what if I'm a bit defensive. Obviously you haven't grown up with the "online porn" generation of guys, who don't see anything wrong with silicone and what have you.

 

One time we were in class and they had a poster of a model who had recently got breast implants. They were all cheering something like "HOORAY FOR SILICONE!"

 

My generation is probably a bit different from the women who have no problem attracting men.

 

And you probably have never dealt with being called Pancakes. Yes, men like that are jerks, but it's not something that you just brush off easily. It does effect my self esteem.

 

Who knows, maybe now you'll call me weak.

 

Well then go get some boobs so you too can be propositioned for sex and ogled like you are a piece of meat by the occasional pervert:rolleyes:. You're comparing sexual interest shown by men towards porn stars and the like to genuine interest in who you are as a person. Are you looking for a potential long term mate or do you just want men to drool over your assets? This isn't to say that all men who prefer big boobs are just looking for sex, but I can tell you as a member of the tig 'ol bittie club that they aren't all that. You were dating a jerk, and if you had big boobs you'd just be a girl with a large chest who is still dating a jerk. I know plenty of women with little to nothing going on up top who are in long-term loving relationships. These women might not have much up top, but they have confidence--something you seem to be lacking. Learn to ignore the "hooray for silicone" boys.

[hydorclops]

LosingBattle,

 

Your concern has worn a groove in your mind. You're thinking a variation of "I have to...but I can't...but I have to...etc.

 

Painful. Sad.

 

Because what you say has some truth, you will always find evidence for it.

 

One way out might be to disregard this idea as much as possible. Example: "Lots of men like large breasts; mine are small. OK, I'm going to plan out my garden now.

 

Do you get solace or hope when you think about all the men who would love you and be attracted to you as you are?

[LosingBattle]

LosingBattle, do you have any problems getting men? Been single for a long time?

 

Well not for a long time, only 3 months or so.

 

But he has been my only boyfriend. The only guy to ever show interest in me. And you know how it went...

 

We started dating when I was almost 18. That means I spent my teenage years being turned down by guys. High school was hard in that regard. I was the only one of my friends that never had suitors.

 

That sucks. Psychologists say that those years are crucial for self esteem. Being called Pancakes by boys (and some busty girls) didn't help much either.

 

I wouldn't mind being ogled. I can ultimately pick who I want to date. I can say no.

 

I just hate it when people say that small breasts act as a filter... because it makes it sound like small breasts can't turn on a man enough that he'd just want you for sex. I know how horrible that sounds, but it makes it sound as if small breasts are not sexually appealing.

 

The only guy who's shown interest in me so far is the guy who said he thought of me as asexual, but as he himself stated, he kind of has romantic interest in me, and thus, he doesn't really think of me sexually. He says that for that to happen, he'd have to be involved with me in a serious relationship, but that just for say a one night stand, he would just not be able to do it with me because of how he perceives me.

 

I don't want a serious relationship, or anything remotely romantic, for a long time. I'm not ready. I don't want love. I already was in love and it sucked. I need time for myself.

 

I just don't get why "hot" (slim and busty) girls get to have all the benefits: they can select from a big pool of guys who they want to date, they can get their way with men just by wearing cleavage and being a bit flirty, they are considered the epitome of sexiness, etc.

 

But small breasts? They don't have that allure. Like I said, I wouldn't mind being ogled, I guess I'd just let that make me feel good that I look good! I'm tired of envying women who get all the attention. I'm tired of being seen "just as a friend" or something, because I'm not provocative enough. It gets old.

Edited August 20, 2010 by LosingBattle

[somedude81]

OK know I'm starting to understand what's going on. It seems like you really don't get that much attention from men. You believe that having small breasts is the reason for that. I'm not going to lie, breasts are an important part in a woman's sexual attractiveness. Though they are not the only thing.

 

How pretty do you think you are? How's your hair? Do you have a fit body? Do you think you dress sexy? How flirty are you?

 

Those aspects can make up for being not well endowed.

[LosingBattle]

OK know I'm starting to understand what's going on. It seems like you really don't get that much attention from men. You believe that having small breasts is the reason for that. I'm not going to lie, breasts are an important part in a woman's sexual attractiveness. Though they are not the only thing.

 

How pretty do you think you are? How's your hair? Do you have a fit body? Do you think you dress sexy? How flirty are you?

 

Those aspects can make up for being not well endowed.

 

Usually it's women who tell me I look good. I'm slim, I have big hips. I am almost flat. Brown long hair, brown big eyes. Average butt. I'm like a slim pear shaped woman. I usually wear leggings with loose tops, or tight tops with jeans. I don't think I'm flirty, but I am very friendly and smile a lot and I'm not loud or bitchy.

 

Women have different tastes than men, though. What women find attractive in women is not what men find attractive in women.

 

Also, why "well" endowed? What does that make small breasts? "Inadequately" endowed? And I don't think I'd have to "make up" for anything if I'm normal and this is how I was born! What, do busty women have nothing to make up for then? How unfair would that be?

[Cracker Jack]

Honestly, you sound like you're very attractive.

 

However, as long as you continue to use your experiences with your ex to justify your insecurities, you'll never move on from this. You don't want to feel like this for a long period of time. I suggest you just stop worrying about what you don't have, and focus on what you DO have.

[ViciousViolet]

Usually it's women who tell me I look good. I'm slim, I have big hips. I am almost flat. Brown long hair, brown big eyes. Average butt. I'm like a slim pear shaped woman. I usually wear leggings with loose tops, or tight tops with jeans. I don't think I'm flirty, but I am very friendly and smile a lot and I'm not loud or bitchy.

 

Women have different tastes than men, though. What women find attractive in women is not what men find attractive in women.

 

Also, why "well" endowed? What does that make small breasts? "Inadequately" endowed? And I don't think I'd have to "make up" for anything if I'm normal and this is how I was born! What, do busty women have nothing to make up for then? How unfair would that be?

 

So you're working with some hips and butt, you should definitely have guys looking your way. Like I said, I know so many girls with small breasts who are very lucky out there. If you're just looking for a fling or hookup, I can't imagine many guys turning that down because you aren't Pamela Anderson up top.

 

I'll share my experience. I'm an African-American female who dates all types, and I definitely get rejected a lot because not every guy is feeling the black chicks. Do I let it get to me? Nope. Some guys will like it while others will not. I work with what I've got. There are at least a handful of guys who really love dark skin, dark hair, and dark eyes, so to them I'd be their dream girl. As for the others, oh well, life goes on...

[ConflictedGuy27]

but I can tell you as a member of the tig 'ol bittie club...

 

that's hot.

[LosingBattle]

So you're working with some hips and butt, you should definitely have guys looking your way. Like I said, I know so many girls with small breasts who are very lucky out there. If you're just looking for a fling or hookup, I can't imagine many guys turning that down because you aren't Pamela Anderson up top.

 

I'll share my experience. I'm an African-American female who dates all types, and I definitely get rejected a lot because not every guy is feeling the black chicks. Do I let it get to me? Nope. Some guys will like it while others will not. I work with what I've got. There are at least a handful of guys who really love dark skin, dark hair, and dark eyes, so to them I'd be their dream girl. As for the others, oh well, life goes on...

 

 

Well that's a different way of seeing it and it's very healthy I guess.

[SincereOnlineGuy]

A general question for men - do all of you think porn stars are hotter than normal women?

 

 

 

No, Stop it!!

 

If I could get YOU out there, starring in your own porn movie... I'd just have you 'act' your way past the insecurities which would cause nobody to ever buy or rent the flick.

 

Guys EVERYWHERE assess you fairly quickly, and then they figure out their impression OF how socially bold or daring you're likely to be... and then, at any time when YOU surprise them by exceeding that level of social daring, guys are intrigued and on the way to excited.

 

SO, if it's you in that porn movie, boldly displaying your breasts when guys don't 'expect' you to be that bold, then the guys are going to sit up and take notice.

[SincereOnlineGuy]

Well then go get some boobs so you too can be propositioned for sex and ogled like you are a piece of meat by the occasional pervert:rolleyes:. You're comparing sexual interest shown by men towards porn stars and the like to genuine interest in who you are as a person. Are you looking for a potential long term mate or do you just want men to drool over your assets? This isn't to say that all men who prefer big boobs are just looking for sex, but I can tell you as a member of the tig 'ol bittie club that they aren't all that. You were dating a jerk, and if you had big boobs you'd just be a girl with a large chest who is still dating a jerk. I know plenty of women with little to nothing going on up top who are in long-term loving relationships. These women might not have much up top, but they have confidence--something you seem to be lacking. Learn to ignore the "hooray for silicone" boys.

 

 

 

God I love the tone of every iota of this response.

[Chubbi]

We started dating when I was almost 18. That means I spent my teenage years being turned down by guys. High school was hard in that regard. I was the only one of my friends that never had suitors.

 

That sucks. Psychologists say that those years are crucial for self esteem. Being called Pancakes by boys (and some busty girls) didn't help much either.

 

I wouldn't mind being ogled. I can ultimately pick who I want to date. I can say no.

 

I just hate it when people say that small breasts act as a filter... because it makes it sound like small breasts can't turn on a man enough that he'd just want you for sex. I know how horrible that sounds, but it makes it sound as if small breasts are not sexually appealing.

 

I just don't get why "hot" (slim and busty) girls get to have all the benefits: they can select from a big pool of guys who they want to date, they can get their way with men just by wearing cleavage and being a bit flirty, they are considered the epitome of sexiness, etc.

 

But small breasts? They don't have that allure. Like I said, I wouldn't mind being ogled, I guess I'd just let that make me feel good that I look good! I'm tired of envying women who get all the attention. I'm tired of being seen "just as a friend" or something, because I'm not provocative enough. It gets old.

 

 

I am 21, have small breasts and I haven't been on a date. I have never thought of myself as lacking self-esteem though because of a bad romance life. I have moments of insecurity, definitely, but as I move on and on I realized I loved my body. I think it's a hot bod.

 

In fact, the other day I was getting out of the shower at school, totes naked. And this guy walks in, scares the crap out of me, and I am completely naked. (Our bathrooms at my college are gender-neutral) I say "Oh sorry!" (because I had my shower curtain open to let in some air. No one had used that bathroom so I wasn't expecting visitors.) And he walks on into the toilet blushing and completely shocked. I thought, "Oh man. That guy is super religious. I hope I haven't embarrassed him or went against his religion." I wasn't embarrassed for myself at all. I thought I had a great body so it wasn't a bad thing to be seen naked. He didn't look hurt or offended the next time I saw him either. He was rather happy to see me, in fact. And shy too. There was some lingering embarrassment...

 

3 of my friends in my circle have big breasts, I mean DD or larger... they also have not been on dates. In fact, we all look different from each other. Every body, size and shape (not to mention race) is represented, and we're all romance-life-nonexistent. It's nothing to do with size of breasts.

 

They do look nice, I admit. If it boosts your confidence, but I don't think it will, then go ahead and get them. I have not had a problem getting sexual-male-attention, if that's what you're looking for.

 

One way to gather your esteem is to complain about your body to your friend girls. You can have bonding moments over dissing your body and wierdly, everyone comes out feeling better.

[InceptorsRule]

I already work out.

 

OK but maybe you need to change up your work out to focus on some different muscle groups; or perhaps you've hit a plateau that you need to break through.

 

 

By average I mean average sized: not big, but not flat either.

 

Yes but is it tight? How is the muscle tone? Do you have ripples, grapefruit patterned skin, or cellulite? When you wiggle it do the shock waves keep it shaking back and forth for another five minutes afterwards?

 

 

Honestly. And big hips doesn't equal big ass, how ignorant is that? Ever heard of hip bones? That's what's wide. They're wide. My waist is small. I thought that was a good thing.

 

Wide hips are good for bearing children because the fetus's head can be too large to get through a petite woman's hip bones, thus necessitating a C-section. I didn't think the discussion topic was suitable body frame for child birth, however.

 

 

My ass is not big.

 

But you said you are "pear shaped." Pear shaped IME is not simply narrow waste, no chest, wide hips, tight rear. To me pear shape implies a lack of fitness below the waste in addition to indicating something about one's body frame type.

 

 

I'm not fat. Pear shaped is a body type. It means my lower body is large and my waist is small. It's like an hourglass figure minus the breasts.

 

No, I've actually never heard pear shaped as meaning hourglass minus the breasts, you're the first one I've ever heard use the term this way.

 

 

It doesn't make me fat or out of shape. J Lo is a pear shape, Shakira is a pear shape and none of them are out of shape.

 

Yeah but I notice you're careful not to address your muscle tone, specifically in your butt area.

 

 

 

Plus what's wrong with brown hair?

 

Nothing. Nothing's wrong with being flat chested and pear shaped either.

 

 

I'd never dye my hair because I like my natural color. Plus platinum blonde would look awful with my olive skin. And the chemicals would probably make my hair look awful within a few days.

 

OK, suit yourself.

 

 

Don't give advice unless you know what you're talking about.

 

I do know what I'm talking about.

 

 

I don't have to make up for anything.

 

So why do you have such an inferiority complex about your chest if you feel that way? Be happy with who you are then.

 

 

 

I don't get it. Why if my breasts are small I have to make up for it, why if my butt were not "tight" I'd have to make up for it... why should I even dye my hair just because it's brown? That's idiotic. Not everyone looks good as a blonde.

 

No one complained about your breasts being too small except for...you. Right? That's what this thread is all about? You feel inferior because you believe your breasts are too small?

 

 

 

What's your opinion about average women with big breasts? Do they have to make up for anything? Hm?

 

Big breasts can make up for a lot of flaws such as a crappy nasty personality. Women with small/non-existent breasts have less margin of error. (Try to remember that in the future.)

 

 

 

 

And what makes you think other women could not see me as a threat?

 

Because you have an inferiority complex because you're flat chested.

 

 

I've received compliments from all kinds of women. I don't receive compliments from bitchy women or anything, I get positive, well meant compliments.

 

So believe the compliments, everything's fine, you don't need no stinkin' big breasts. I'm glad you have no issues about your breasts, I guess I misunderstood the intent of your thread.

 

 

 

I never said "oh I'm so unattractive", I only asked if I was less attractive in comparison to busty women.

 

A flat chested woman all other things being equal is less attractive to most men than a busty woman.

 

A flat chested woman with a nice disposition could possibly compete with a large breasted woman with a nasty disposition, all other things being equal.

 

However a flat chested woman with a resentful nasty disposition is going to lose out to: a big breasted woman with a nice disposition; a big breasted woman with a nasty disposition; or a flat chested woman with a nice disposition.

 

Please try to remember this in the future.

 

 

 

I don't think I'm unattractive, but that's just my opinion. I have a good face, I have nice hair, I have a small waist and big hips which create a nice curvy indent in my mid section. I don't have a butt that's too big or too flat, and I have shapely thighs.

 

Who are you trying to convince? Me, or yourself?

 

 

Eat your words, would you?

 

Actually I greatly prefer to eat peaches rather than pears. If you get my drift.

[LosingBattle]

Whatever IR, no point in trying to argue with you. I give up. You're one of those people that just have to have the last word. You win.

 

Look, people have complained about my small breasts, my ex being one of them. It did affect my self esteem. As did the people who have mocked me and called me Pancakes.

 

Whatever, you win.

[Chubbi]

What did you say back to your ex when he complained about your breasts?

 

You should have told him if he would suck on them harder or fondle them more, they might grow bigger. lol. Hey hun, it's an urban legend so let's find out. Get to sucking, I'll tell you when to stop. You could run a scietific experiment or something. Ten minutes of sucking a day, while observing rise of breasts.

 

It isn't like you were stuffing your bras and tricking him. He knew what he was getting himself in to. How is he going to complain about it now when you're naked? You should have breast-smacked him or something. It would be hella funny to do with small breasts. It would be more like a naked body bump. Then again, i don't know. My breasts are super sensitive. That would hurt. Maybe instead you could have gotten yourself all pointy and then poked him in the eye with your nipple. lol

 

Sorry, if this is wierd. I'm just hoping to make you feel a little better. I don't want to criticize your ex since I don't know him, but I wouldn't dwell on his opinion too much. He doesn't seem so special a person, if all he could do was bring you down. I mean, anyone can do that.

Edited August 21, 2010 by Chubbi

[LosingBattle]

Lol, it's OK Chubbi.

 

He complained because one summer I lost quite an amount of weight, and my breasts apparently shrank a bit (I didn't notice). He pointed it out.

 

He said he had been seeing pics of the previous summer, and had noticed that in those pics, my breasts looked a bit larger. He asked me if there was anything I could do to make them big again.

 

I told him that no, there wasn't anything. He told me to quit working out then, or I'd end up completely flat chested. I said I wouldn't, that to me it was more important to be fit. He said that he had already warned me, and that if I did end up completely flat chested, he would probably break up with me due to lack of attraction.

 

I told him he was shallow, and he said yes, but that he didn't like flat chested women. He told me maybe we could reach a compromise if that ever happened and that he'd pay my implants. He said maybe I could even get a bigger size just for the sake of it.

 

I didn't speak with him for a couple days after that. I let him know how much it hurt me, and he apologized, although he said he really wouldn't like me to be flat chested, and started acting all sappy and romantic. The damage had already been done, though. The seed had been planted.

 

I also asked him once if he would think I'm hotter if I was busty. He said yes. But that was my bad, I shouldn't have asked.

 

He was a jerk, though, very insecure too (about a past guy I'd been with). The difference is I was tactful enough to never use his insecurity against him.

[ViciousViolet]

Whatever IR, no point in trying to argue with you. I give up. You're one of those people that just have to have the last word. You win.

 

Look, people have complained about my small breasts, my ex being one of them. It did affect my self esteem. As did the people who have mocked me and called me Pancakes.

 

Whatever, you win.

 

Pancakes? This is a new one to me. What do you plan to do? Find a guy who likes your other assets or get implants? Would you consider a guy of a different ethnic background that doesn't focus as heavily on the boobs? I'm serious, what do you plan to do?