GUYS: How important is weight if a woman has a face you find attractive?

[Katie29]

you are not getting my point

 

I'm tired of people saying that it's ok for women to be size 12+ by using an example of a woman like the above or scarlet johannsen (IE women who are a genetic anamoly). In reality, the average female who is size 12 is chunky and looks nothing like Scarlet or Jaime above.

 

 

and yes I love fitness type women who are muscular/curvy :p

 

 

 

she looks even better in videos... unless you are suggesting videos are also photoshopped

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWVp8M94wlA

 

This is what I'm talking about. She looks like an everyday person and she is a size 12

 

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://c.complex.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/whitney-lead.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.complex.com/blogs/tag/thick-girls/&usg=__jC3JO0RxAyQtosYxvIV4DoG48ls=&h=357&w=480&sz=51&hl=en&start=60&tbnid=f6zf8LYfZ3xwPM:&tbnh=123&tbnw=176&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dthick%2Bgirl%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1000%26bih%3D552%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C1445&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=565&vpy=103&dur=46&hovh=194&hovw=260&tx=173&ty=101&ei=xfFgTNfcOoKClAf__JTyCg&oei=svFgTJbCE4bGlQeHhLmRCQ&esq=4&page=4&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:9,s:60&biw=1000&bih=552

[jamesum]

Women who arent even fat and blabber about how she is fat makes my blood boil.

 

Its so annoying.

 

You arent fat unless you are size 18.

[Katie29]

This is what I'm talking about. She looks like an everyday person and she is a size 12

 

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://c.complex.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/whitney-lead.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.complex.com/blogs/tag/thick-girls/&usg=__jC3JO0RxAyQtosYxvIV4DoG48ls=&h=357&w=480&sz=51&hl=en&start=60&tbnid=f6zf8LYfZ3xwPM:&tbnh=123&tbnw=176&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dthick%2Bgirl%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1000%26bih%3D552%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C1445&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=565&vpy=103&dur=46&hovh=194&hovw=260&tx=173&ty=101&ei=xfFgTNfcOoKClAf__JTyCg&oei=svFgTJbCE4bGlQeHhLmRCQ&esq=4&page=4&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:9,s:60&biw=1000&bih=552

 

her body i mean. She obviously has a great face with alot of makeup on. but she isn't "fit" she is what is considered average as far as body goes.

[brahmabull117]

Oh things have changed then wow no wonder women are under such stress no matter how much I work out ill never be under a 10. I use to shop in Lane Bryant and Avenue and I never remember seeing a 10 in either of those places..meh

 

 

you don't get below a 10 because you eat like 5 times more than you think you are eating

 

the reality is that you could easily have the type of body that you see on swimsuit models... it's called controlling your calories

 

 

I used to be chubby my whole life. I used to think that I was not eating that much and just had a poor metabolism. Then one day I actually counted my calories and realized I was eating 4000 calories a day (no duh I couldn't lose weight). I finally fixed it and started eating normally and I dropped over 80 lbs in 6 months alone.

 

 

Remove your attachment to food and actually start eating normal amounts of calories and you can get in great shape in no time

[Katie29]

Women who arent even fat and blabber about how she is fat makes my blood boil.

 

Its so annoying.

 

You arent fat unless you are size 18.

 

who says fat is 18? you? thats an opinion. to someone else fat may be 22..

[SpanksTheMonkey]

you are not getting my point

 

I'm tired of people saying that it's ok for women to be size 12+ by using an example of a woman like the above or scarlet johannsen (IE women who are a genetic anamoly). In reality, the average female who is size 12 is chunky and looks nothing like Scarlet or Jaime above.

 

 

and yes I love fitness type women who are muscular/curvy :p

 

 

 

she looks even better in videos... unless you are suggesting videos are also photoshopped

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWVp8M94wlA

 

Nope just photos are photo shopped im sure that women is a pro wrestler no? Why are you even putting her as example for average women? Shes a athlete I could post pics of mike Phelps all day and say how hot he is it won't prove anything other then I like people with athletic builds? Hey if thats your point then ok point proven and thats your right good on ya but I don't think its fair to compare all average women to that..

[Katie29]

you don't get below a 10 because you eat like 5 times more than you think you are eating

 

the reality is that you could easily have the type of body that you see on swimsuit models... it's called controlling your calories

 

 

I used to be chubby my whole life. I used to think that I was not eating that much and just had a poor metabolism. Then one day I actually counted my calories and realized I was eating 4000 calories a day (no duh I couldn't lose weight). I finally fixed it and started eating normally and I dropped over 80 lbs in 6 months alone.

 

 

Remove your attachment to food and actually start eating normal amounts of calories and you can get in great shape in no time

 

whoa, its not that easy. women that have been overweight for most if not all the their lives cannot just lose weight and jump in a bikini lol! the cellulite is still there and "dimples" from all the yo yo dieting. You don't know as much as you think. Who says thicker women want to change their bodies. Some are happy the way they are!

[SpanksTheMonkey]

you don't get below a 10 because you eat like 5 times more than you think you are eating

 

the reality is that you could easily have the type of body that you see on swimsuit models... it's called controlling your calories

 

 

I used to be chubby my whole life. I used to think that I was not eating that much and just had a poor metabolism. Then one day I actually counted my calories and realized I was eating 4000 calories a day (no duh I couldn't lose weight). I finally fixed it and started eating normally and I dropped over 80 lbs in 6 months alone.

 

 

Remove your attachment to food and actually start eating normal amounts of calories and you can get in great shape in no time

 

 

Thanks for the sermon how ever I broke my back when I was hit by a car theres days I cant use the bathroom. Let alone worry about weight at this exact moment in my life. I said I will never be under a size 10 and you know what it doesn't bother me I wouldn't want to be that thin anyways I like being a little chubby..Not obese but a little chubby dose me just fine..

[Katie29]

you don't get below a 10 because you eat like 5 times more than you think you are eating

 

the reality is that you could easily have the type of body that you see on swimsuit models... it's called controlling your calories

 

 

I used to be chubby my whole life. I used to think that I was not eating that much and just had a poor metabolism. Then one day I actually counted my calories and realized I was eating 4000 calories a day (no duh I couldn't lose weight). I finally fixed it and started eating normally and I dropped over 80 lbs in 6 months alone.

 

 

Remove your attachment to food and actually start eating normal amounts of calories and you can get in great shape in no time

 

men and women lose and gain weight very differently. you sure you work in the fitness world? you don't sound like you do

[brahmabull117]

Nope just photos are photo shopped im sure that women is a pro wrestler no? Why are you even putting her as example for average women? Shes a athlete I could post pics of mike Phelps all day and say how hot he is it won't prove anything other then I like people with athletic builds? Hey if thats your point then ok point proven and thats your right good on ya but I don't think its fair to compare all average women to that..

 

there is nothing separating women like that in the video from the type of women posting in this thread

 

 

if you ladies actually believed in yourself and got out there and worked out hard and ate the right amount of calories, you would have the amazing dream body you have wanted your entire life. There is nothing difficult about it at all

 

 

The difference between winners and losers in life is 2 simple words - "I can"

 

whoa, its not that easy. women that have been overweight for most if not all the their lives cannot just lose weight and jump in a bikini lol! the cellulite is still there and "dimples" from all the yo yo dieting. You don't know as much as you think. Who says thicker women want to change their bodies. Some are happy the way they are!

 

 

yea chubby women would much rather continue to stay chubby rather than look like a goddess like Scarlett Johansen :laugh:

 

 

 

I also know a couple hobos who would rather stay homeless than become millionaires... yea right

[Katie29]

Thanks for the sermon how ever I broke my back when I was hit by a car theres days I cant use the bathroom. Let alone worry about weight at this exact moment in my life. I said I will never be under a size 10 and you know what it doesn't bother me I wouldn't want to be that thin anyways I like being a little chubby..Not obese but a little chubby dose me just fine..

 

 

I think there is something missing upstairs...if you know what I mean:confused:

[SadandConfusedWA]

Consider height people. Tall size 10 and short size 10 will look VERY different.

[Katie29]

there is nothing separating women like that in the video from the type of women posting in this thread

 

 

if you ladies actually believed in yourself and got out there and worked out hard and ate the right amount of calories, you would have the amazing dream body you have wanted your entire life. There is nothing difficult about it at all

 

 

The difference between winners and losers in life is 2 simple words - "I can"

 

 

 

 

 

 

yea chubby women would much rather continue to stay chubby rather than look like a goddess like Scarlett Johansen :laugh:

 

 

 

I also know a couple hobos who would rather stay homeless than become millionaires... yea right

 

 

bull: good name by the way. says alot. YOU ARE POSTING MODELS AND FITNESS GURUS. not the kind of women that live next door. I'm done. omg!

[SpanksTheMonkey]

I think there is something missing upstairs...if you know what I mean:confused:

Agreed sadly seams the weight was lost in quite vital areas mainly above the shoulders meh not my issue to deal with lmao..

[brahmabull117]

Thanks for the sermon how ever I broke my back when I was hit by a car theres days I cant use the bathroom. Let alone worry about weight at this exact moment in my life. I said I will never be under a size 10 and you know what it doesn't bother me I wouldn't want to be that thin anyways I like being a little chubby..Not obese but a little chubby dose me just fine..

 

my apologies in that case... you are one of the few people with a real excuse

 

99% of people are just lazy/have no self confidence

 

men and women lose and gain weight very differently. you sure you work in the fitness world? you don't sound like you do

 

it doesn't matter

 

it's called calories in vs calories out. If you eat less calories than you burn and work out, you will be in great shape in no time.

 

 

look at this woman for example - http://api.ning.com/files/HdtkyL3BG0btNZtILQkqhCCtRbFkVNmY-546IqJImM0lTHv9eoEtJUWdQUTdcEW0BtEIZCaB7KK0Tb*DxHSY8JlIqJbbKda-/NataliaInoue3.jpg

 

she has the body of a goddess. What separates her from you?? What is stopping you from going to the gym and working out hard with weights to look like that? there is nothing special about her, she is just some nobody in Brazil with a tremendous work ethic.

 

answer that question with a REAL answer and I will stop bothering you

[Katie29]

my apologies in that case... you are one of the few people with a real excuse

 

99% of people are just lazy/have no self confidence

 

 

 

it doesn't matter

 

it's called calories in vs calories out. If you eat less calories than you burn and work out, you will be in great shape in no time.

 

 

look at this woman for example - http://api.ning.com/files/HdtkyL3BG0btNZtILQkqhCCtRbFkVNmY-546IqJImM0lTHv9eoEtJUWdQUTdcEW0BtEIZCaB7KK0Tb*DxHSY8JlIqJbbKda-/NataliaInoue3.jpg

 

she has the body of a goddess. What separates her from you?? What is stopping you from going to the gym and working out hard with weights to look like that? there is nothing special about her, she is just some nobody in Brazil with a tremendous work ethic.

 

answer that question with a REAL answer and I will stop bothering you

 

lol dude. I wouldn't want legs like that. too muscular...not cute. she looks too hard.

[Katie29]

Agreed sadly seams the weight was lost in quite vital areas mainly above the shoulders meh not my issue to deal with lmao..

 

 

agreed, agreed agreed

[brahmabull117]

lol dude. I wouldn't want legs like that. too muscular...not cute. she looks too hard.

 

lol

 

a woman like that would cause car accidents walking in the street in her bikini

[Katie29]

lol

 

a woman like that would cause car accidents walking in the street in her bikini

 

 

I know quite a few men that like women to be a little more soft in the legs. Her legs look a little manly..

[Katie29]

lol

 

a woman like that would cause car accidents walking in the street in her bikini

 

to YOU..not everyone else. see the problem is you think you speak for everyone. Thats another reason I'm not into meatheads, they are know-it-alls

[jamesum]

who says fat is 18? you? thats an opinion. to someone else fat may be 22..

Show a man a size 18 woman. If he doesnt say she is fat I will give you $1000.

[brahmabull117]

I know quite a few men that like women to be a little more soft in the legs. Her legs look a little manly..

 

 

the woman pictured is irrelevant.

 

why don't you try answering the question? what is stopping you from achieving the dream physique that you have always wanted?

 

 

and here's a thinner alternative if the picture really bothers you that much

 

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/74/l_70c9eb0a35c97def2d91a598e7fbf60d.jpg

[SpanksTheMonkey]

my apologies in that case... you are one of the few people with a real excuse

 

99% of people are just lazy/have no self confidence

 

 

 

it doesn't matter

 

it's called calories in vs calories out. If you eat less calories than you burn and work out, you will be in great shape in no time.

 

 

look at this woman for example - http://api.ning.com/files/HdtkyL3BG0btNZtILQkqhCCtRbFkVNmY-546IqJImM0lTHv9eoEtJUWdQUTdcEW0BtEIZCaB7KK0Tb*DxHSY8JlIqJbbKda-/NataliaInoue3.jpg

 

she has the body of a goddess. What separates her from you?? What is stopping you from going to the gym and working out hard with weights to look like that? there is nothing special about her, she is just some nobody in Brazil with a tremendous work ethic.

 

answer that question with a REAL answer and I will stop bothering you

Thank you for the apology you need to stop and think before you speak tho not every one is lazy. I think you may have decent intentions? How ever the best way to train a horse isent to beet it to death. That only makes it resist more and hate you in the end. Seriously try a softer approach next time if there willing to listen great! If not move on not your prob.

 

Now far as that pic some men would say shes to built ide Imagen women are suppose to be soft but firm no? She looks like she can lift 200 with one hand I mean if thats what your into thats cool and all but I doubt she would be every guys ideal women..

[Katie29]

Show a man a size 18 woman. If he doesnt say she is fat I will give you $1000.

 

 

I think you would be very surprised to see some size 18 women that dont even look it. and again, just because YOU say it is, doesn't make it so..

[Enchanted Girl]

Okay, I don't like how people aren't actually answering the question.

 

This isn't a thread about whether or not people can lose weight. It's about whether or not guys would be willing to date someone who was fat with a pretty face.

 

I think a much better example than the rest of you posted would be kirstie ally. (I hope these pictures actually show up.)

 

http://www.insidesocal.com/outinhollywood/.fatactress.jpg

 

http://jacksonville.com/sites/default/files/editorial/images/files/editorial/images/additional/86/web_KirstieAlley1.jpg

 

http://www.celebritywonder.com/picture/Kirstie_Alley/KirstieAlley_Wargo_4567510.jpg

 

http://kdotrunsthis.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/kristie-alley-fat.jpg

 

 

Now I realize not all people are going to think her face is pretty, but assuming that you do.

 

Would you date her (or someone like her)?

 

I think she's a better example than the ones I've seen thus far.