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In the beginning was the dating. It was very very good as was the sex. Though in one of the stranger ironies of my life we didn't sleep together for quite a while. I would sleep over and we would make out but that was it. She was absolutely ready and I was slowly falling in love and didn't see the hurry.

 

Ultimately I took her away for a romantic weekend. Friday night we sleep next to each other in the hotel bed - I make out with her - and we go to sleep. Saturday morning we wake up and I realize she is livid. At that point she just couldn't tell if I was gay or just not attracted to her. And I immediately realized that if I didn't put out she was going to break up with me. So I took a shower came out and put any doubts she had about my orientation or my desire firmly to bed.

 

A couple months later we had a huge miscommunication. How two college graduates could get this wrong while facing each other having missionary style sex is still a mystery 21 years later. I asked her "is it safe?" - and I swear she said "yes" and she swears to this day she said "no". And what with it being safe I didn't withdraw. And that was how our first child was conceived.

 

We moved in together. I am the same guy I was then except I lacked the skillset needed to properly respond to "male fitness tests". And she is the same gal she was then, a high testosterone, smart, funny, perfect 50-50 blend of sugar and spice (jalapenos most days). So when she "fitness tested" me I exploded in fury. Alpha - but clumsy - stupid - largely ineffective alpha. So in between fitness tests we got along awesome - but our fights were terrible - never physical - but awful.

 

And I am not proud of this - it is just the truth. What kept me from walking out the door when she was being impossible was the incredible, non-stop, unlimited sex. And what kept her from walking out the door when I responded like someone who desperately needs anger management class was the money. And those two things kept us from walking for 15 years. And then I changed. I learned how to respond in a way that worked really really well. Took some trial and error. Turns out that "not responding" - not being alpha - when challenged - was worse than losing my temper. She WANTED - hell NEEDED the alpha response. And finally after 15+ years I learned to invoke the dominance response with just a light blend of anger, mixed with determination, skill and humor. And I learned to talk less with words and more with body language and tone of voice.

 

But in the meantime we had absolutely convinced ourselves that:

ME: If I ever stop bringing in a big paycheck she is gone

HER: If I don't sexually saturate him he will either stray or leave me

 

Neither of us felt resentment. We just accepted the situation. On my side she is such a great partner - I LIKE the fitness tests, the challenges that come from her strong willed personality. Actually I love it and could not tolerate a 100 percent nice/agreeable partner. If a certain sized w-2 was the price of admission I was ok with that. On her side - I think she would say the same.

 

The thing is the kids are older now and we have no debt. She doesn't care if I earn 40K or 240K. And for two years I mostly didn't work. And she not only didn't complain - she encouraged me to take time off and play. I spent the first year waiting for an ultimatum. Instead I got a steady stream of encouragement to have fun and take it easy. And that was when I realized that independent of my paycheck she really truly loves me. She is consistently kind to me (in between her spice induced craziness) and is constantly touching me, hugging me, giving me "that look".

 

And on my side I have done everything I can to make sure she knows that as long as she doesn't ignore me, I have a wide comfort zone in terms of sexual frequency. While I am grateful that she is so sexually considerate and absolutely will connect whenever I want, barring a migraine, I am not totally comfortable with the realization that a certain amount of her behavior comes from 15 years during which sex was her half the glue that kept us together.

 

 

International, do you ever feel that marriage itself and the ways of marriage are a natural dampener to sex?

 

I do believe that, and I think Mem is onto something. He's found a way to include a bit of uncertainty and storminess in a marriage that is basically solid.

 

I've actually read that couples who fight passionately have more passionate sex lives.

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IP,

This stuff can be very, very confusing. Have you ever had a situation where you traveled frequently and were only home on weekends?

 

Have you ever tried creating a light "playful conflict" vibe. If you are good at verbal banter and can combine that with some level of tag / chasing / wrestling. The key is for you to NOT turn it into something sexual. It is play for the sake of play. The goal is for it to be fun for both of you - full stop. If it impacts her desire level great. If not it is a new dimension to your relationship and skill that you both develop.

 

For us the banter skill level is about an even which makes it fun. On the physical side we have an informal understanding. She gets to punch as hard as she wants below the neck and above the belt - I only get to block. Once it turns to wrestling - well I have not yet figured out an equalizer. It seems contrived to stop and have her tie one hand behind my back.

 

 

I'm not sure this is accurate. We discuss a lot - we're around each other almost 24 hours per day, very little gets by either of is. But she's never been a highly sexual person. Aside from the first couple months we were together - once a week or less has always satisfied her. Though nothing has changed over the years regarding our frequency, I have no doubt the quality has improved 10 fold in that time. I still don't consider this particular situation a deal breaker - the consequences could be a deal breaker, but not this alone.
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The part in bold is not true of all couples. That's not been true in my marriage. I'm happy for you that you have a great marriage. I do feel a little sad for you that you think you have to choose between a happy marriage and kids. Nope. We have both a healthy, sexual marriage AND kids. Yup, some of us really can have it all! Imagine that.;) I think the OP sometimes DOES have it all and he can again. Don't give up International!

 

Oh and Black Lovely, why do you have to tell your H that he's very lucky? I never have to tell mine that. He just knows it and tells ME all the time how lucky HE is.

 

 

 

Perhaps so, (I don't think so though.) Which would you rather have though, if you had to choose, a marriage with passionate fighting and sex or one with almost no fighting and sex that's just good?

 

Me, I never wanted to choose between those two. I had to have it all. And I do. Kids and all! Go figure.:)

 

Glad that you're happy for me love. Happy for you too! :) You seem to enjoy being a mother and if children have not compromised your romantic life, then I am pleased for you. We all have our own paths to happiness.

 

I don't have to tell him he's fortunate, I choose to. Not sure why you would assume that my husband doesn't know he's lucky, just because I choose to remind him. :confused:

 

I would choose the big fights and the hot sex, PhoenixLady. Forgive me for saying so, but your experience does not dictate mine. Just because you would settle for only "good" sex, doesn't mean that I would or should do the same. We are all different dear.

 

My husband and I do not want children and I know we will be happier for making that choice; it was one of the reasons we married each other.

 

If International "had it all", he certainly wouldn't be on LS, posting about how he seriously considers cheating! :laugh:

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I've not posted in awhile and here's why: We had sex and everything is fine.

 

I know that sounds flippant, but there's a degree of truth to it.

 

She'd previously stated that maybe we'd wait until the weekend to have sex - and I tried to be cool with it even though my head ached from thoughts of lust. And just so there's no confusion - I truly, truly mean my head ached from those constant thoughts. I'm not sure women - at least mine doesn't - truly understand or believe men when we say we need sex like that. I don't know how other men are, but when I haven't had any in say four days, my head physically aches, I'm a grouch to be around and generally life is miserable. And of course this turns into a cycle as who wants to have sex with a grouch headache?

 

Which brings me to something I mentioned to my wife after we finished - we (i.e. committed couples) have to force ourselves to have sex regularly even when we don't feel like it. Even when we're sick and tired of the other person, just do it. Because once that salve is applied so many, many problems melt away.

 

I digress...

 

I know in a previous post I stated something along the lines of "**** buying flowers" for my wife. Well, I buckled on that issue. Last Tuesday I went to the store and bought her flowers - I was doing it not as a key to getting sex, but to try to be a good sport and remind her that despite it all, I love her.

 

She immediately suspected other intentions, but didn't seem annoyed. But surprisingly it all lead to some pretty good sex that night. And not the usual sex where I go down on her until she's good and ready for me to stick it in (forgive me for supplying too much information). She actually participated more and was more giving which doesn't always happen.

 

Of course, when we were done, I was nothing but smiles and googly-eyes for my wife. And that lasted a good 36-48 hours. Then we tried it again on Friday night and yesterday afternoon during lunch. All of it is great and honestly I couldn't be happier. For now...

 

Aside from the sex, she's made a consistant effort to show affection which goes an incredibly long way with me if we're not having sex everyday.

 

Suffice to say I've not posted here because I've simply been too ****ing happy (or happy ****ing?). I'm sure I'll be bitching and moaning here again in a couple weeks.

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I've not posted in awhile and here's why: We had sex and everything is fine.

 

I know that sounds flippant, but there's a degree of truth to it.

 

She'd previously stated that maybe we'd wait until the weekend to have sex - and I tried to be cool with it even though my head ached from thoughts of lust. And just so there's no confusion - I truly, truly mean my head ached from those constant thoughts. I'm not sure women - at least mine doesn't - truly understand or believe men when we say we need sex like that. I don't know how other men are, but when I haven't had any in say four days, my head physically aches, I'm a grouch to be around and generally life is miserable. And of course this turns into a cycle as who wants to have sex with a grouch headache?

 

Which brings me to something I mentioned to my wife after we finished - we (i.e. committed couples) have to force ourselves to have sex regularly even when we don't feel like it. Even when we're sick and tired of the other person, just do it. Because once that salve is applied so many, many problems melt away.

 

I digress...

 

I know in a previous post I stated something along the lines of "**** buying flowers" for my wife. Well, I buckled on that issue. Last Tuesday I went to the store and bought her flowers - I was doing it not as a key to getting sex, but to try to be a good sport and remind her that despite it all, I love her.

 

She immediately suspected other intentions, but didn't seem annoyed. But surprisingly it all lead to some pretty good sex that night. And not the usual sex where I go down on her until she's good and ready for me to stick it in (forgive me for supplying too much information). She actually participated more and was more giving which doesn't always happen.

 

Of course, when we were done, I was nothing but smiles and googly-eyes for my wife. And that lasted a good 36-48 hours. Then we tried it again on Friday night and yesterday afternoon during lunch. All of it is great and honestly I couldn't be happier. For now...

 

Aside from the sex, she's made a consistant effort to show affection which goes an incredibly long way with me if we're not having sex everyday.

 

Suffice to say I've not posted here because I've simply been too ****ing happy (or happy ****ing?). I'm sure I'll be bitching and moaning here again in a couple weeks.

 

in a few week..... Of course you can see how long the buying flowers trick works.

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Yes, absolutely. It's just...I wish it were simple, but it doesn't seem that way to me.

 

Here's an analogy based on a real couple I knew:

 

The wife was an amazing cook. She cooked all kinds of beautiful, healthful gourmet food, but her husband was a simple guy. A meal was just a necessity to keep energy for the stuff he really wanted to do. On occasions when he did enjoy a meal, it was a baloney sandwich or a hard boiled egg. He didn't have gourmet taste, and he never seemed to relish and appreciate her creations the way she hoped. Not that he wasn't thankful. He ate what she cooked, he was always polite and he appreciated the trouble she went to. It was just his heart wasn't in it.

 

She was hurt and rejected. Her cooking was her gift, it came from the deepest, most creative part of herself and he did not value it. She couldn't imagine not cooking, so she kept hoping he would change. She tried different recipes that he might like better, tried serving at different times and talked to him at length about how important it was to her that he enjoy the food.

 

In truth, he became more and more aware of his inability to live up to her expectations. She would make him homemade macaroni and cheese with four different cheeses and he would find himself fantasizing about Kraft mac 'n cheese. He liked box meals because there wasn't such a fuss over eating, there weren't so many dirty dishes and they could still have time in the evening to go for a walk or watch their favorite show together...

 

Eventually meals became a huge stress for both of them. She started to fear and dread another rejection each time she cooked, to the point where she couldn't enjoy the creative process anymore, and each time he sat down to a meal, he felt the pressure of being responsive enough, of proving to her that he savored the food, even though it didn't come naturally. He started avoiding meals at home because he felt like a fake, and the stress was literally making him nauseous.

 

Soon they were hardly ever eating together at all.

 

I have been through exactly this scenario :) LOL I didn't know anyone else had this issue.

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When you're in a committed relationship with someone, it's really a form of betrayal and disrespect to decide that affection and sex are optional, something that can be shelved. It's true delusion to think that sex isn't a huge issue.

 

I agree with this, but then there is also this from the OP

 

But seriously, would it be so tough to just get a common run of the mill BJ sometime? You know, just for being an okay kind of guy? You know like for never having cheated or beaten anyone? Couldn't I get something like that from her just for those simple things?

 

He's either okay with a pity BJ or he thinks he is entitled to one, but I think part of the problem that is getting glossed over is not feeling valued or wanted. A pity/obligation BJ isn't going to fix that.

 

but when I haven't had any in say four days, my head physically aches, I'm a grouch to be around and generally life is miserable.

Not a man, but this sounds psychological to me. I don't think virgin teenage boys or the pope are having constant migraines from the lack of nookie. And there is always masterbation.

 

I know in a previous post I stated something along the lines of "**** buying flowers" for my wife. Well, I buckled on that issue. Last Tuesday I went to the store and bought her flowers - I was doing it not as a key to getting sex, but to try to be a good sport and remind her that despite it all, I love her.

 

She immediately suspected other intentions, but didn't seem annoyed. But surprisingly it all lead to some pretty good sex that night. And not the usual sex where I go down on her until she's good and ready for me to stick it in (forgive me for supplying too much information). She actually participated more and was more giving which doesn't always happen.

 

Of course, when we were done, I was nothing but smiles and googly-eyes for my wife. And that lasted a good 36-48 hours. Then we tried it again on Friday night and yesterday afternoon during lunch. All of it is great and honestly I couldn't be happier. For now...

 

Aside from the sex, she's made a consistant effort to show affection which goes an incredibly long way with me if we're not having sex everyday.

 

Suffice to say I've not posted here because I've simply been too ****ing happy (or happy ****ing?). I'm sure I'll be bitching and moaning here again in a couple weeks.

It really sounds like the fix for this situation is for you to let go of the idea that she should blow you for not beating you and make a serious effort to make her happy. Not that I think it is your responsibility to make her happy, but it sounds like you've both gotten into a patern of taking the other person for granted. You can change that cycle and she so far will respond.

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It really sounds like the fix for this situation is for you to let go of the idea that she should blow you for not beating you and make a serious effort to make her happy.

Well, yeah, and the implication is that a guy will enjoy a bj even if he knows the woman sees it as a duty and a chore. Isn't it her desire to do it that makes it exciting? Otherwise you may as well let your dog lick it.

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Well, yeah, and the implication is that a guy will enjoy a bj even if he knows the woman sees it as a duty and a chore. Isn't it her desire to do it that makes it exciting? Otherwise you may as well let your dog lick it.

 

I'm sorry, but this made me laugh. The dog part. (Some) women really underestimate the value of pleasing their man this way.

 

Best of luck.

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I'm sorry, but this made me laugh. The dog part. (Some) women really underestimate the value of pleasing their man this way.

 

Best of luck.

 

well, I think some women really underestimate how important sex is for a man. We are obviously very different, but some women think we should act and behave according to their concept or idea of how sex should be in a marriage. As we men keep repeating in these threads... a little sex goes a long way... :)

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We are obviously very different, but some women think we should act and behave according to their concept or idea of how sex should be in a marriage.

Both people should try to make the other person happy. It isn't either or.

 

As we men keep repeating in these threads... a little sex goes a long way... :)

Yeah, but if the woman really isn't interested, it is probably just going to be depressing.

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Both people should try to make the other person happy. It isn't either or.

 

 

Yeah, but if the woman really isn't interested, it is probably just going to be depressing.

 

If you read each and every husband who has posted, we all have the same lament and dilemna..... Wife enjoys sex when we have it (yes that orgasm thing again:laugh:).... No one is insisting on marathon sessions and outlandish demands as to daily sex...... If we got it 1-2X's/wk (though we may want more;):p)we'd be over the moon....

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once a week would be great for me... we are on day 10 at the moment and starting feeling a bit lively... :D But there have been no hinting about some imminent action... and I don't hint anymore either. Don't want to upset the wife... :D

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Someone said it is better to be "bored" in marriage than to have a marriage filled with "drama". OP maybe your being "bored" in your marriage is a blessing. You may be surprised to learn that wives also look at hot men and wonder what sex would be like with them. I guess that is just the way it is when people have been married for a long time. (sigh)

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If you read each and every husband who has posted, we all have the same lament and dilemna..... Wife enjoys sex when we have it (yes that orgasm thing again:laugh:).... No one is insisting on marathon sessions and outlandish demands as to daily sex...... If we got it 1-2X's/wk (though we may want more;):p)we'd be over the moon....

Yeah, but when some husbands post about wanting more sex (like the comment about "why can't she just blow me for not being a total ass") they seem to miss the fact that a woman who is having sex with you to fufill a duty isn't going to be as receptive as one who is in the mood.

 

It isn't that I think sex is unimportant, but just a duty put out isn't going to fix the problem.

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*sigh* I think this is just a natural problem that won't go away.

 

The point is OP, you are unhappy with your sex life.

Your wife isn't unhappy.

 

If you were to become happy with your sex life, your wife presumably would become unhappy.

 

So either way, ONE of you must be unhappy.

 

If one person is not having sex to please the other and not rock the boat or the other is having sex for the same reason, its not really a compromise, it will eventually make things WORSE because i'm guessing you don't want less sex but she doesn't seem to want any more.

 

I'm sorry to say this but this is why prostitution is the oldest occupation. Because I don't think that you can fix these sexual imbalances because really there is no natural or normal amount of sex. Some people match, most don't.

 

I am sad to say I don't think your wife's sex drive can be 'fixed' because who's to say it's abnormal? If she just doesn't want it. At the same time you can't expect your sex drive to disapear as that would be abnormal for you.

 

So I think you can either accept it and be miserable or come to an arrangement that will keep you both happy.

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if you are so fed up with the humdrum routine why don't you be the change you wish for. your wife to you is not the bride you married, i'm guessing? i'm assuming once upon a time, you thought she was exciting, sexy? so that woman must still be there, dormant within the shell of responsibilities, obligations and domestic dread that compose her everyday behavior. just as "that man" whom she chose is obviously lurking in you. you say you have bought flowers and tried to be romantic, but you've fallen against the current of the mundane, discouraged by the minimal response to your efforts.

why don't you try something impromptu, impulsive, and inspired? aren't you bored with who you have become, just as much as you are with who she has become? do something that would guarantee the resurfacing of your spontaneous, passionate natures, if they do exist. if your wife really has changed so much that there is no free spirit remaining, then you will at least find out the truth, and know you did all you could to reawaken lust and love in your marriage.

are you two fiscally responsible people who have something like an emergency fund, or a credit card? then take it and hire someone to watch your kids for a week. take a vacation. demand that she takes off (if she is employed). make it a goal for both of you to take off in the next 3 months, if immediately doing so is impossible. do it ASAP. pay for her to have a "me" day or two at a spa so she can reinvigorate and remember HERSELF. she likely has become her family and has lost touch with her identity and perhaps her need to feel beautiful. and get away. pretend you are strangers, and meet in a bar. get creative. buy her a bunch of lingerie, slap her ass. you might have to fake it but if you engage in lustful behavior, nature will take over.

you might not have the funds for all this, but if you have any way of accessing the $ i would go for it and forget about responsibility. responsibility doesn't get anyone off. you need to forgo your boring adult brain.

and if you don't have the $ then find a relative to watch your kids, make a deal to return the favor to a friend, trade a skill if you must! but get your kids out of your hair. and get away with her somewhere, somehow.

if you can think of a better idea then do that! just do something to break away from routine! and try to arrange for her to have some alone time prior so she can remember what being selfish feels like. selfishness will lead her to recall her own needs...including the sexual ones. buying flowers doesn't cut it. that's sweet but it's not enough. you need to break out the big guns.

if you intend on being faithful you might as well do all you can to get laid within your marriage. have you really done all you can? have you broken the mold of your boring adult self anymore than she has?

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if you are so fed up with the humdrum routine why don't you be the change you wish for. your wife to you is not the bride you married, i'm guessing? i'm assuming once upon a time, you thought she was exciting, sexy? so that woman must still be there, dormant within the shell of responsibilities, obligations and domestic dread that compose her everyday behavior. just as "that man" whom she chose is obviously lurking in you. you say you have bought flowers and tried to be romantic, but you've fallen against the current of the mundane, discouraged by the minimal response to your efforts.

why don't you try something impromptu, impulsive, and inspired? aren't you bored with who you have become, just as much as you are with who she has become? do something that would guarantee the resurfacing of your spontaneous, passionate natures, if they do exist. if your wife really has changed so much that there is no free spirit remaining, then you will at least find out the truth, and know you did all you could to reawaken lust and love in your marriage.

are you two fiscally responsible people who have something like an emergency fund, or a credit card? then take it and hire someone to watch your kids for a week. take a vacation. demand that she takes off (if she is employed). make it a goal for both of you to take off in the next 3 months, if immediately doing so is impossible. do it ASAP. pay for her to have a "me" day or two at a spa so she can reinvigorate and remember HERSELF. she likely has become her family and has lost touch with her identity and perhaps her need to feel beautiful. and get away. pretend you are strangers, and meet in a bar. get creative. buy her a bunch of lingerie, slap her ass. you might have to fake it but if you engage in lustful behavior, nature will take over.

you might not have the funds for all this, but if you have any way of accessing the $ i would go for it and forget about responsibility. responsibility doesn't get anyone off. you need to forgo your boring adult brain.

and if you don't have the $ then find a relative to watch your kids, make a deal to return the favor to a friend, trade a skill if you must! but get your kids out of your hair. and get away with her somewhere, somehow.

if you can think of a better idea then do that! just do something to break away from routine! and try to arrange for her to have some alone time prior so she can remember what being selfish feels like. selfishness will lead her to recall her own needs...including the sexual ones. buying flowers doesn't cut it. that's sweet but it's not enough. you need to break out the big guns.

if you intend on being faithful you might as well do all you can to get laid within your marriage. have you really done all you can? have you broken the mold of your boring adult self anymore than she has?

 

Thanks for everyone's input, but LucyLove brings up a point I've read elsehwere on Loveshack - the Weekend Away as the cure for troubled marriages.

 

I agree, Weekend Aways are great and can definitely spice up married life. They're relaxing, they're fun, they're romantic. All great, great things without question. And this intimacy often carries over for the days and weeks following a Weekend Away.

 

Unfortunately, I can't schedule a Weekend Away every time I wanna get laid. I'd like to, but it's simply an impossibility. The problem we face as a married couple isn't the Weekend Aways - we plan those times a couple times a year or more. Sometimes we stay home and the kids are elsewhere, sometimes we get out. Our problem is the Doldrums in between.

 

The Doldrums leave my sails limp, but my engines hot and ready to go. Doldrums are where seamen, like myself, suffer from visions of beautiful mermaids, only to go crazy from scurvy.

 

Enough with the lousy seafaring metaphors.

 

But honestly, the day-to-day intimacy is what is killing me. Killing me. Killing me. It's tough, but yes, marriage can get boring no matter how much you try to liven it up.

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Thanks for everyone's input, but LucyLove brings up a point I've read elsehwere on Loveshack - the Weekend Away as the cure for troubled marriages.

 

I agree, Weekend Aways are great and can definitely spice up married life. They're relaxing, they're fun, they're romantic. All great, great things without question. And this intimacy often carries over for the days and weeks following a Weekend Away.

 

Unfortunately, I can't schedule a Weekend Away every time I wanna get laid. I'd like to, but it's simply an impossibility. The problem we face as a married couple isn't the Weekend Aways - we plan those times a couple times a year or more. Sometimes we stay home and the kids are elsewhere, sometimes we get out. Our problem is the Doldrums in between.

 

The Doldrums leave my sails limp, but my engines hot and ready to go. Doldrums are where seamen, like myself, suffer from visions of beautiful mermaids, only to go crazy from scurvy.

 

Enough with the lousy seafaring metaphors.

 

But honestly, the day-to-day intimacy is what is killing me. Killing me. Killing me. It's tough, but yes, marriage can get boring no matter how much you try to liven it up.

 

hey, what's up? I thought you had sex and everything was fine! :D

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Yeah, but when some husbands post about wanting more sex (like the comment about "why can't she just blow me for not being a total ass") they seem to miss the fact that a woman who is having sex with you to fufill a duty isn't going to be as receptive as one who is in the mood.

 

It isn't that I think sex is unimportant, but just a duty put out isn't going to fix the problem.

 

I disagree.

 

Sure "pity sex" isn't the stuff of romance novels, but in my experience sex - any sex - leads to more sex and more sex leads to better intimacy on all levels and better intimacy on all levels leads to flowers and candy and candlelight and flowers and candy and candlelight leads to better sex.

 

It's the cycle of married life, I suppose. The way God intended.

 

Amen.

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hey, what's up? I thought you had sex and everything was fine! :D

 

It's been six days, will be seven tomorrow - I can assure you nothing will happen this evening. So, I'm just responding to some things here. I haven't gone officially crazy from scurvy just yet. Soon, but not yet.

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It's been six days, will be seven tomorrow - I can assure you nothing will happen this evening. So, I'm just responding to some things here. I haven't gone officially crazy from scurvy just yet. Soon, but not yet.

 

ah, lol... I feel for you! We had sex last night after 13 days... I was just about to explode... :D I guess the inconsistency is killing you. At least I know it's more or less once every couple of weeks... :rolleyes:

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Slightly off-topic, but not quite...

 

I received news over the weekend that my father-in-law was caught cheating on my mother-in-law again recently. This is the sixth or seventh time (with different women) this has happened in the span of 12 years or so.

 

Aside from his infidelity, he is a disgusting, jobless, almost toothless, unintelligent bore - and I mean that in the best possible way.

 

While my wife and I hate him for what he's done to my wife's mother, we also take some pity on him. My mother-in-law is no barrel of laughs by any means and the two simply married far too early - he was 19 when they married. She was 32 (she was a cradle robber).

 

But what I find personally most troubling is how disgusting this man is and yet, he's able to find someone - someone - who's okay with it and will give him a little strange.

 

It nearly breaks my heart.

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It's been six days, will be seven tomorrow - I can assure you nothing will happen this evening. So, I'm just responding to some things here. I haven't gone officially crazy from scurvy just yet. Soon, but not yet.

 

What about the non-sexual intimacy you two discussed? In the 6 days, has there been kissing, hugging, and physical closeness?

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What about the non-sexual intimacy you two discussed? In the 6 days, has there been kissing, hugging, and physical closeness?

 

Yes, it's definitely been better. She's definitely making an effort and I find that effort incredibly hot. And I tell her so.

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