Tres Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I want to have a personal relationship with God and my Guardian Angel. In other words, I want to be able to talk in my mind to God and my Guardian Angel. I want to pray and ask for help and advice. But, I have difficulties to see God and my Guardian Angel in my imagination. I feel that I need to have some image in my mind when I talk and think about Them. Obviously, that people are not able to see God and Angels. So, it is hard to talk to Them if there is no image in my mind. How do you see God and Angels when you talk to Them? Do you have any visual image which is a symbol of God? Any advice on how to do that? Any advice on how to build a personal relationship with God and my Guardian Angel? Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Do you mean literal imagery? I've always seen G-d as someone who looks like Zeus. Ha! Sounds funny but somehow that's how I've always pictured "him," despite the fact that my spirituality doesn't necessarily see G-d as having a human appearance. As far as Guardian Angel, I always believed it was someone we knew who passed on. Mine is my grandmother's deceased husband, Bob. Link to post Share on other sites
quankanne Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 guardian angels ... hoo-boy, I haven't thought about her in AGES, though I imagine she's still hovering over me. On the bright side, since I'm a "mature lady," now, I'm not as apt to get into the kind of scrapes I did in college! how do I see my angel and God? No real visuals, just a strong sense of love and patience, with the ability to listen whenever I communicate. To that effect, it's pretty much the relationship I had with my mom, multiplied a billion times over. best suggestion is to keep it a real open dialogue with both: God knows your heart, and therefore your needs, so nothing's gonna surprise him, so there's no need for artiface. Best part is that these conversations can be all over the place, whether it's supplication or praise – I think he's always got a willing ear when you want to chat. other thought is to look up contemplative spirituality, which pretty much is centering yourself and what you do in God. And it becomes an ongoing dialogue with him. most of my conversations with my guardian angel have been along the lines of "Please keep me safe," "thank you," and "WTH was I thinking?" Link to post Share on other sites
TaraMaiden Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I will tell you a true story. In 1997, I lived in Hampshire, UK. A leaflet was posted through my door. It advertised a local Psychic Fair taking place in a week from the date I got the leaflet. I decided to go, because I knew there would be crystals, (both decorative light-reflecting ones, and natural semi-precious ones) and I wanted to buy some. I decided while there, to see a psychic. It was a crowded, well-attended and very busy evening, so this seemed like a good and opportune chance, to connect with someone at random. I waited in the middle of the room, until I caught sight of one, looking at me, and smiling. I went over to her table, and the first question she asked me, was “Good grief, how many people have you got with you?” Apparently she could see 9 presences accompanying me. Two, she described with startling accuracy as members of my family I knew well, and had loved. Others, I didn’t know, but she said they were probably family members I had never met, but whom knew my parents, or sometimes we had a guardian who latched onto us, because they liked our energy and attitude. She also mentioned a very tall, very lean, shaven-headed Buddhist monk, whose robes were creamy white, who wore makeshift sandals tied to his feet with leather thongs, and who carried a long staff. He seemed to be smiling broadly. She said this presence was extremely significant, and very important to me. While the others would come and go, as presences did, this one was stuck by me forever, and would be my mentor and Continuous companion. Fast forward to 2002. Now living in France, I had been teaching Qi Gong with a local Martial Arts school, the head of which was also an extremely accomplished, experienced and adept crystal therapist. As I needed surgery to a severely herniated spinal disc, he offered to give me a crystal therapy treatment. This took about an hour, involved no tactile contact, but merely needed him to work on my Chi, or energy, in order to stabilise it, smooth it out, replenish it and strengthen it in readiness for my operation. I sat the whole while, in an extremely calm and relaxed state, and was faintly aware of some wonderful music. It felt like 10 minutes. It took an hour. At the end of it, the therapist said that in all his years working on people, he had only ever seen a person’s “Internal Master” or Designated Guardian twice. Once, many years ago, and now, he had seen mine. He described exactly the same figure the psychic had described 5 years earlier, right down to the sandals , staff, white robes and smile. Fast forward another 4 years to 2006. I was attending a Shiatsu weekend workshop, which taught that Shiatsu should also be intuitive and therapists should connect not only with a person’s physical body, but also their ephemeral self, and the auras enveloping people. At one point, the Course Tutor asked us all to connect with anyone or anything we felt would be a spiritual inspiration to us, and to ask them for guidance, assistance and support. I envisaged my dear and cherished uncle, who had died about 3 years previously. I visualised him standing behind me, guiding my hands, and helping me apply a pure and well-intentioned therapy. At the end of the weekend, the course tutor took me to one side, and excitedly confided that he had actually caught a glimpse of the Spiritual Guide I had obviously invoked and asked for guidance. He felt so privileged to have seen him! He described this Buddhist monk in perfect detail. I know who my Guardian Angel is. And I can’t tell you how wonderful it is to have him close. Make of this what you will, take it as a simple contribution to this thread. Link to post Share on other sites
hopesndreams Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I want to have a personal relationship with God and my Guardian Angel. In other words, I want to be able to talk in my mind to God and my Guardian Angel. I want to pray and ask for help and advice. But, I have difficulties to see God and my Guardian Angel in my imagination. I feel that I need to have some image in my mind when I talk and think about Them. Obviously, that people are not able to see God and Angels. So, it is hard to talk to Them if there is no image in my mind. How do you see God and Angels when you talk to Them? Do you have any visual image which is a symbol of God? Any advice on how to do that? Any advice on how to build a personal relationship with God and my Guardian Angel? I don't get the Guardian Angel stuff. Can you elaborate? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Tres Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 I don't get the Guardian Angel stuff. Can you elaborate? It is a belief that every person has the Guardian Angel who loves, helps, and protects him/her in this life. I think that you can understand your Angel as The Holy Spirit in you, or as The True Self (eternal Spirit) in you, or as some other ideas. The understanding depends on the type of religious beliefs you have. It is known that God is Love. But, how can we perceive and talk to Love? Link to post Share on other sites
hopesndreams Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 It is a belief that every person has the Guardian Angel who loves, helps, and protects him/her in this life. I think that you can understand your Angel as The Holy Spirit in you, or as The True Self (eternal Spirit) in you, or as some other ideas. The understanding depends on the type of religious beliefs you have. It is known that God is Love. But, how can we perceive and talk to Love? My Holy Spirit is just that, my Holy Spirit. Is the Guardian Angel a Catholic thing? God is there. No matter where you are or what you are doing. Anyone can talk to God, anytime, day or night. No need for an intercessor. Speak to Him in plain English (or whatever language, lol) He'd loved to hear from you. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Tres Posted September 11, 2010 Author Share Posted September 11, 2010 My Holy Spirit is just that, my Holy Spirit. Is the Guardian Angel a Catholic thing? God is there. No matter where you are or what you are doing. Anyone can talk to God, anytime, day or night. No need for an intercessor. Speak to Him in plain English (or whatever language, lol) He'd loved to hear from you. The Guardian Angel is probably a thing of many religions including Christianity. Link to post Share on other sites
Disillusioned Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 I don't have a guardian angel, I have a saboteur demon who plays incredibly cruel tricks on me. As for talking to God, for me it would feel like talking to air. Link to post Share on other sites
quankanne Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 It is known that God is Love. But, how can we perceive and talk to Love? ... just engage in it guardian angels are definitely part of the Catholic culture, there's even a prayer that I learned as a tyke invoking my angel's protection: "Angel of God, my guardian dear, to whom God's love entrusts me here. Ever this day be at my side, to light, to guard, to rule, to guide." Link to post Share on other sites
TaraMaiden Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I would have to agree, and I'm even more convinced because (give or take the odd slight difference in translation) the prayer quoted by quankanne, is the same one my Roman Catholic Italian grandmother taught me as a child... "Angelo di Dio Che sei nel mio custode, illumina, custodisci, reggi e governa me, Che ti fu affidato dalla Pieta Celeste Cosi sia. Angel of God, Who is assigned to me as custodian, enlighten, take care of, support and govern me, For I was entrusted to you by Heaven's Compassion, So be it (Amen). So yes, I guess it could well be a Catholic thing..... Link to post Share on other sites
quankanne Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 sounds prettier in Italian, I think! Link to post Share on other sites
aerogurl87 Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I've never imagined God as being an actual person, more like a guiding force I can just feel within me. With that said, when I pray, I pray like I'm talking. It's more like "hey God, you know there's some stuff that's been bothering me lately..." then let it all out. It's just like talking to somebody, like your best friend. Oh and not sure on the guardian angel thing. Although there have been times where it's felt like someone was with me, and I've been sure of it. The first time happened one day while at college and I thought my dorm was haunted, lol. Second time happened one night when I was at home. I felt this really strong presence around me, kinda scared me. Link to post Share on other sites
shadowofman Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Guardian angel - overbearing mother. Get off my back mom. I don't have a problem with drugs. God - Preachy! Oh, like your such a wonderful example of how I should live my life dad. Link to post Share on other sites
Veronica K Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 I don't see God as having any particular form. Although for me, getting into a calm and relaxed state seems to increase the likelihood of feeling especially connected, I believe that God is always there. Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 I want to have a personal relationship with God and my Guardian Angel. In other words, I want to be able to talk in my mind to God and my Guardian Angel. I want to pray and ask for help and advice. But, I have difficulties to see God and my Guardian Angel in my imagination. I feel that I need to have some image in my mind when I talk and think about Them. Obviously, that people are not able to see God and Angels. So, it is hard to talk to Them if there is no image in my mind. How do you see God and Angels when you talk to Them? Do you have any visual image which is a symbol of God? Any advice on how to do that? Any advice on how to build a personal relationship with God and my Guardian Angel? Hi Tres, Let your faith be your vision...I have seen 1 Angel. When in some radical prayer I do see visions, and see them also in regular prayer...although most of the time I see my faith if that makes sense... My suggestion would be to ask God (in your heart) to reveal Himself to you, to reveal how He would like you to see Him...I hope this makes sense, it's late and definitly bedtime...lol GBU...oh and BTW, you WILL get the answer...seek and ye shall find, knock and the door shall be opened!~ Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 The Guardian Angel is probably a thing of many religions including Christianity. Yes...it's either in Psalms 91 or 92...He will give His angels charge concerning you, to guard you in all your ways, lest you strike your foot against a stone.... Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernSunshine Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 It is a belief that every person has the Guardian Angel who loves, helps, and protects him/her in this life. I think that you can understand your Angel as The Holy Spirit in you, or as The True Self (eternal Spirit) in you, or as some other ideas. The understanding depends on the type of religious beliefs you have. It is known that God is Love. But, how can we perceive and talk to Love? When i was a kid, about 10 years old, my mom says I woke up yelling in the mid of night, sitting straight up in my bed. My mom rushed into the room to see what was the matter, and she says I kept shouting, "Did you see her, did you see her? She flew out of the window!" My mom was so confused.. I then said, "An angel, she was so pretty!" I don't ever remember doing that! When I talk to God, I just talk. I feel him listening. Link to post Share on other sites
Honorable_Venerable Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 If I have a guardian angle, I want to see the contract, because I'm not convinced the beggar hasn't been sleeping on the job, and as for God, even if I believe in him, I'm not sure he returns the favour! Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 If I have a guardian angle, I want to see the contract, because I'm not convinced the beggar hasn't been sleeping on the job, and as for God, even if I believe in him, I'm not sure he returns the favour! I agree with this Link to post Share on other sites
quankanne Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 If I have a guardian angle I'd like to see one of those for myself, too. Equilateral, isosceles or scalene? Link to post Share on other sites
Allisha Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 If I have a guardian angle I'd like to see one of those for myself, too. Equilateral, isosceles or scalene? :lmao:!! I can't believe how much I laughed at this. Link to post Share on other sites
worlybear Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 "How do you percieve God when you're thinking of him? Missing! Link to post Share on other sites
Rashad Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 It's a rsky thing to have an IMAGE for God... cause if God IS something then that means God IS NOT something else, the God I know has no limits... read this. Imam Ali Praise is due to Allah whose worth cannot be described by speakers, whose bounties cannot be counted by calculators and whose claim (to obedience) cannot be satisfied by those who attempt to do so, whom the height of intellectual courage cannot appreciate, and the divings of understanding cannot reach; He for whose description no limit has been laid down, no eulogy exists, no time is ordained and no duration is fixed. He brought forth creation through His Omnipotence, dispersed winds through His Compassion, and made firm the shaking earth with rocks. The foremost in religion is the acknowledgement of Him, the perfection of acknowledging Him is to testify Him, the perfection of testifying Him is to believe in His Oneness, the perfection of believing in His Oneness is to regard Him Pure, and the perfection of His purity is to deny Him attributes, because every attribute is a proof that it is different from that to which it is attributed and everything to which something is attributed is different from the attribute. Thus whoever attaches attributes to Allah recognises His like, and who recognises His like regards Him two; and who regards Him two recognises parts for Him; and who recognises parts for Him mistook Him; and who mistook Him pointed at Him; and who pointed at Him admitted limitations for Him; and who admitted limitations for Him numbered Him. Whoever said in what is He, held that He is contained; and whoever said on what is He held He is not on something else. He is a Being but not through phenomenon of coming into being. He exists but not from non-existence. He is with everything but not in physical nearness. He is different from everything but not in physical separation. He acts but without connotation of movements and instruments. He sees even when there is none to be looked at from among His creation. He is only One, such that there is none with whom He may keep company or whom He may miss in his absence. Link to post Share on other sites
Disillusioned Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 A disembodied mind floating through the air, being bombarded with zillions of crank calls... and He can change himself from energy to matter, but only for people whose brains are wired to perceive Him that way. Those ancients were really on to something. Link to post Share on other sites
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