Author SpillinItAll Posted September 27, 2010 Author Share Posted September 27, 2010 :laugh: trying to think of what it is you would tell a bug sexually. :laugh: It was pretty crazy. He would tell me exactly what to say because I just couldn't think of anything to say to a freakin roach. He wanted me to talk down to it and insult in a sexual way. He must have had a bad childhood or something. I work with an agency and to this day we still laugh about that one. Link to post Share on other sites
BB07 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Don't you feel like your mm was just toying with you and his wife? And you were a longterm affair. First sorry about the T/J. GG, if you don't recall I did not walk into the role of knowing that I was an OW, he lied about being separated, yes, 2 times. Your question about toying, I'm not completely clear what you might mean, but if you are saying that it was all about sex, no it was not. As screwed up and crazy as the story is, I have no doubt that he thought he loved me. Link to post Share on other sites
BB07 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 The craziest thing is a guy that I refer to as "creepy bug guy"(I nickname most of most clients). He saw me for about a yr and would bring roaches in a jar when he saw me and wanted me to talk dirty to the bug as I jerked him off him with my feet:sick: He paid well and tipped but he really creeped me out with the whole bug thing. At least he would laugh while we were doing it so it wasn't too bad and he didn't want sex. I think he was married and I understand why he wouldn't want to share that insanity with his wife. I don't want to tell to many personal details about myself because I really am scared of someone who knows me being on here. I am paranoid in that way. Yuck, yuck, now that is twisted! Bugs.....where in the world would that come from? I can not imagine where you'd have to go in your own head in order to pull that off. I would find that so tasteful, I would want to puke in my mouth. Link to post Share on other sites
jmargel Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 The reason why you have that view of men in such a bad light is because you associate yourself with that group. There are bad men, good men, bad women and good women. When you constantly interact with that sort of environment then of course your view is going to be slated to the way it is. At some point, your looks are going to start to fade away, at least enough to the point that men are not going to be after you like they are now. When that day does come what else are you going to do to support yourself and kids? You really don't care about these men and these men don't really care about you. You are an ego boost to them, someone to make them feel good about themselves for a short period of time, however the long term substance is not there. In the meantime, IMO you are hurting yourself. You might not see that right now but when all of this ends you are going to be regreting alot of what you did. At this point even if you found a man you can trust, someone not into this lifestyle, could you be honest with him enough to tell him what type of work you did? How many guys you slept with? Don't you see how this is already affecting you? Your view on men is so negative that is has prevented you from even finding a true form of happiness. You might not be alone but that doesn't mean you aren't lonely. While I was single, after my ex-fiancee left I slept with quite a few women and it was the most hollow experience I ever had. There was no compassion, no love, it was just an act. I became very cynical of women, since from my experiences it was them who made the first move. I couldn't trust them, why would I? If they would sleep with me on the first or second date then i'm sure they did this to others. Because of that I wasn't giving the decent women out there a fair chance. There are some great, guinine people out there but you won't find it where you have put yourself physically, mentally and emotionally. You do deserve better than this. Link to post Share on other sites
BB07 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Your probably right. I haven't been in a relationship for a log time so I am not sure how I will feel but I sure there will be some insecurities. And yes, I am very cynical about men but I feel that I am armed with more insight then most because of how honest these guys get with me. They don't feel much need to lie about their real thoughts because it doesn't matter in this type of scenario. And yes, men lie about being married all the time even to me. One client lied for 3yrs to me about that even though I had known all along because I saw the tan line on his ring finger. Amazing that he wouldn't think you'd see the tan line. I suppose it would be very difficult to believe ANYTHING that came out of their mouth. Link to post Share on other sites
aerogurl87 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Interesting thread but I shall not judge as I almost got into the situation of being someone's "on call girlfriend" although he was single. Would've been some pretty good money to be made just for a few dates and some steamy sex with one of the hottest men I've ever met in my life. Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Do you do women as well? Just curious. Link to post Share on other sites
greengoddess Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 First sorry about the T/J. GG, if you don't recall I did not walk into the role of knowing that I was an OW, he lied about being separated, yes, 2 times. Your question about toying, I'm not completely clear what you might mean, but if you are saying that it was all about sex, no it was not. As screwed up and crazy as the story is, I have no doubt that he thought he loved me. I'm sorry if I sounded harsh. He toyed with both your emotions the whole time didn't he? Don't you think going into your relationship / lying about marriage he didn't take it seriously and then fell in love? I can't imagine he meant to see you in the long term while lying about being married. He had to know it would be discovered when or if you fell in love. Link to post Share on other sites
Author SpillinItAll Posted September 27, 2010 Author Share Posted September 27, 2010 lol i think married men who have other women are smarter than this sex for hire clients. They get sex outside the marriage, the ow will keep their secret because she is desperate not to lose them, and it's free. it's like their own personal free escort. the ow are usually at their beck and call too without charging. Your clients are silly. Why not just get a girlfriend instead of paying for you? because they feel like its harder for their wives to catch them in this type of cheating, which is true. They never call me personally, they don't even know my name, and haven't the slightest clue where I live so how will their wife find any of this out? The single ones are either to busy with their career to have time to invest in an actual gf or don't think they can actually get one because they have low self-esteem. But I have had plenty of the clients tell me that gfs or wives cost way more then this in the long run. Link to post Share on other sites
Author SpillinItAll Posted September 27, 2010 Author Share Posted September 27, 2010 Do you do women as well? Just curious. I have a couple times but as a couple, not a woman alone. The problem is it is harder to be safe with a girl. I don't want to go down on a girl unless I have that dental dam thing and then its just plain weird. Females don't really call often anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
greengoddess Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I have a couple times but as a couple, not a woman alone. The problem is it is harder to be safe with a girl. I don't want to go down on a girl unless I have that dental dam thing and then its just plain weird. Females don't really call often anyway. :sick:trying to remove that vision from my head. Link to post Share on other sites
Author SpillinItAll Posted September 27, 2010 Author Share Posted September 27, 2010 jmargel, I may be a little cynical from what I do but not that much. I know there are greta men out there. It hasn't warped my view of the world. And I have no intention of doing this for the rest of my life. This is why I am going to college. I will get a normal life one day but for now I am saving lots of money and I get more time to spend with my kids. Link to post Share on other sites
seren Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I am new here and ready to tell my story. I am an escort and hate that what I do to support my family hurts others. I am sure I will get bashed by plenty on here but thats OK. I am only here to give insight into what your husbands are doing under the radar. I would say half of my clients are married( most of them happily) and the other half are single. I am very successful in this industry and very well appreciated by my clients whom most have seen me for many years. I'm not the trashy looking girl you would think does this. No, I am classy, educated, PTA member, and reserved. I live in a nice neighborhood and I'm an involved parent but I have a double life that would shock you. By day I sleep with married wealthy business men and by night I am cooking 3 coarse meals for my kids and helping with homework. I have plenty to tell so have at it! here it goes:eek: Ummm ... hate to state the obvious, but there is absolutely classy about sleeping with men for money, has nothing to do with whether they are married or not. I don't class you as immoral, that's your fish to fry - but classy? no. Link to post Share on other sites
TinaniT Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Are you sure this is something you are okay with longterm? I have a very close friend who was an escort when she was young (18-22) who has confided what she went through. She made $300/hr, which as I understand was typical for our area and at the time thought it was great because she was only qualified for minimum wage jobs and with flexible hours was making money most people never make, plus the gifts the guys would bring her. She would insist on condoms and only seeing people personally referred to avoid law enforcement. Years later and a lot of maturity (she is 32 now), she told me she has nightmares and has a hard time getting over it, or becoming intimate with men. Part of this might be that she felt trapped at the time in what she was doing. She does own her own property and actually with some investments might never have to maintain a job, but I'm not sure that's worth not being able to sleep at night or finding love. Not saying this is necessarily so and I am not going to make moral judgments, but after hearing her story the idea concerns me far more than it used to when I thought simply, consenting adults. (In questions of morality, I tend to figure people are better off making judgments for themselves and leaving others to do so for themselves. And I maintain that, with the single concern for young women involved and blinded by the money.) Link to post Share on other sites
2sure Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Since this is in the Infidelity Forum I was wondering if there any BS here who have dealt with their WS seeing a prostitute or call girl ? Link to post Share on other sites
Author SpillinItAll Posted September 27, 2010 Author Share Posted September 27, 2010 Years later and a lot of maturity (she is 32 now), she told me she has nightmares and has a hard time getting over it, or becoming intimate with men. She probably was doing things she really didn't want to do. I feel sorry for her. I know there are lots of call girls that forget that they can say no. Not everyone is cut out for this and you really have to be careful because you can run into all types of people in you aren't discerning. I doubt i'll ever have trouble sleeping at night because of hat I do. I have been doing this for years and had a yr here and a yr there that I would work at a regular job. During those years that I didn't escort I had no problems. I wasn't having nightmares and I was functioning just fine, and still am functioning well as an active escort. The reason I charge so much per hr is to eliminate the problematic customers and allows me to see fewer men. I hope your friend one day can leave that in the past and sleep better. Link to post Share on other sites
elaina Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 (edited) Some do tell me they are happily married. I tend to ask lots of questions to know more about them. I want to know who I am seeing and over time I learn their whole life story. Even if they don't tell me it's a good marriage I have earned how to tell. I think there have only been a couple guys who had open marriages where the wife knew. Ok. I sorta wish you could be a spy and tell the wives, but I guess that's not good for business, hmm? The best advice I can give to wives to keep their husbands from seeing escorts is try to keep the romance alive. Surprise them with sexy underwear and heels every once in a while. Listen to them when they have had a hard time with work or family issues. Feed their pride because they are more sensitive then you know. Make sure they don't feel judged when telling you their fantasies. And keep an eye on who they are friends with because some of the mid thirties married men do it because their friends are doing it. And don't withhold sex for long periods of time. Men need it often and if they don't get it at home they will eventually find it.Thanks. That's very good advice! I appreciate it. What do most guys like as in super sexy clothes please? And how tall heels, like 6 inch heels? I would have to practice wearing those lol! I remember one guy saw me after it had been 15months that his wife hadn't had sex with him. He had been asking and asking and she just simply told him she didn't care for sex anymore. That's sad. Anyways, I'm not judging you for your profession. I think it's interesting what you do and I think I can learn from you some things, so thanks for your advice! It is really interesting what you wrote to another poster about how you don't see first time escort visitors. Sometimes men are very mysterious, and I think sometimes they categorize women into different "boxes" for lack of a better word. Like, they see their wife in one way, and their escort or mistress in another way. It's hard for me to understand since I'm not a man, and I'm glad that not all men are like that, but it is true that some are. If you do get married, would you mind him seeing an escort, or do you think that since you have escort experience, that he would have the best of both worlds in one lady? About what you do, do you ever have feelings of guilt as in religiously? For example, since I believe in God and believe it's disobedient to God, I could never do what you do, because I would feel so horrible for doing what I believe would be disobedient to God. Do you know what I mean? Are most escorts not believers in God, or believe that God doesn't mind? (Sorry, I don't mean to judge you; I'm just curious and telling why I couldn't do what you do.) I do admire your sexual/conversational skills though, and hope if I ever get married again, that I can be a lot like you in dressing sexy and being sexy and listening and all the advice you gave. That's great about your cooking skills too! Edited September 27, 2010 by elaina Link to post Share on other sites
kuma Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 (edited) Some do tell me they are happily married. IMO, most wealthy men have big egos. Your job is perfect. You're beautiful and treat them like a king. It doesn't matter if they have loving wives or not. It's all about them. Edited September 28, 2010 by kuma Link to post Share on other sites
Author SpillinItAll Posted September 28, 2010 Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 Ok. I sorta wish you could be a spy and tell the wives, but I guess that's not good for business, hmm? I wish I could do that too, I think about it all the time:laugh: What do most guys like as in super sexy clothes please? And how tall heels, like 6 inch heels? I would have to practice wearing those lol! They mostly like those stripper style outfits you get at those sex toy stores. Not just bra and panties, but like sexy ridiculously short dresses(lace ones too) with stripper heals(makes your legs and butt look awesome!! I sometimes think the best alternative is what I saw on a music video by Tweet once "Call me". It was great, they are cheating on eachother with eachother. But its hard to find the full version of that video when you find out at the end she is actually with her bf and not truly cheating If you do get married, would you mind him seeing an escort, or do you think that since you have escort experience, that he would have the best of both worlds in one lady? I would say the later on that one! About what you do, do you ever have feelings of guilt as in religiously? Perhaps a little but not too much, I do go to church and am an active church member. But I am trying my best not to hurt anyone as best I can. Are most escorts not believers in God I don't know. I really don't think so. Unfortunately majority of the escorts out there are just a hot mess, drug problems, drug dealing blood sucking bfs, don't even take care of their kids ugh!! the list goes on That's great about your cooking skills too! To Seren. "but there is absolutely (I think the word nothing was meant to be here?)classy about sleeping with men for money" I didn't say my Job was classy LOL!! I said I carry myself with class as in I dress reserved and not trashy in appearance. I mean to say I don't walk around in super short mini dresses and super high heels with tons of makeup on(except behind closed doors when asked too). I am an attractive soccer mom. Link to post Share on other sites
Author SpillinItAll Posted September 28, 2010 Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 So what job do you claim on taxes? personal consultant? I'm sure a lot of it is skimmed cash that is not claimed on taxes. I can't imagine they write a check for services rendered.So you are not only helping men to cheat but you are also cheating the goverment and eveery single one of your friends family and neighbors who pay their fair share of taxes. Actually I don't believe I am cheating the government at all. Every year when my accountant is done with me I spend one week depressed:(. I pay entirely too much in taxes and what sucks is my kids are in private school so I don't even get the benefit most do from paying a cr@pload in taxes. It's okay I guess because my takehome is still so high and I have lots of free time. Link to post Share on other sites
BB07 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 I'm sorry if I sounded harsh. He toyed with both your emotions the whole time didn't he? Don't you think going into your relationship / lying about marriage he didn't take it seriously and then fell in love? I can't imagine he meant to see you in the long term while lying about being married. He had to know it would be discovered when or if you fell in love. GG........maybe I'm a little hypersensitive today, so sorry if my reply sounded harsh. Honestly I don't know what his intentions were the 1st go around, however I do think he fell in love with me then. Also it wasn't sex as there was no sex the 1st go around. Sometimes I wonder if it was more about feeding his ego about me loving him, because the things he has said, lead me to believe he had me up on this pedestal and he thought I was unattainable. Confuses the heck out of me too. Link to post Share on other sites
BB07 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Since this is in the Infidelity Forum I was wondering if there any BS here who have dealt with their WS seeing a prostitute or call girl ? Interesting question, but I have to wonder if they would admit it, even if it is anonymous. Link to post Share on other sites
Author SpillinItAll Posted September 28, 2010 Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 Interesting question, but I have to wonder if they would admit it, even if it is anonymous. I don't think they often get caught. I'm sure it's a painful thing to find out that he paid for it. Then again some "regular" OW are also sugar daddied by their MM which essentially paying for it. Link to post Share on other sites
BB07 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 I don't think they often get caught. I'm sure it's a painful thing to find out that he paid for it. Then again some "regular" OW are also sugar daddied by their MM which essentially paying for it. Well if it was me.......and I'll probably get flack for this. If the man I was with had cheated, I would rather find out it was with someone like you, someone who isn't a street hooker and who is selective. Also I'm more apt to think that it would be somewhat less painful knowing that it was only for sex instead of an affair with probable emotional involvement. Although on the other hand, I suppose I would wonder if the man had a sex addiction and what the hell was wrong with him that he'd take a chance on losing everything over only sex. Hmmm.........guess I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth. Link to post Share on other sites
Author SpillinItAll Posted September 28, 2010 Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 either way, what OP is doing is illegal (and immoral). You knowingly have sex with men (and women) for money. Illegal. I get paid to spend time with men, sex is a choice I make if I feel like it if you really want to split hairs. I have customers that I have never and probably never will have sex with And your kids will find out. In the end, truth always wins. doubtful, I have unbelievable levels of safeguards for this. I will not risk that no matter how much it costs. Link to post Share on other sites
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