Here to tell all!!

[JustJoe]

Yes, Aero, but what if she takes his money and spends it on her real BF, who is in a rock band?.........You see? The plot thickens.

[pureinheart]

lol i think married men who have other women are smarter than this sex for hire clients.

 

They get sex outside the marriage, the ow will keep their secret because she is desperate not to lose them, and it's free. it's like their own personal free escort. the ow are usually at their beck and call too without charging. Your clients are silly. Why not just get a girlfriend instead of paying for you?

 

GG if you think that it's all about sex for a MM and OW, you are deluding yourself. More often than not, it's not the case.

 

If the MM wants only sex and can afford it, I would think an escort would be the preferable way to go, no illusions about emotions getting involved.

 

Of course one size doesn't fit all, but your implying that all OW are only a sex toy for mm.

 

LOL BB, I'm proof possitive concerning this....exDM and I were in an EA. BB, I think it is rarely about sex especially in long term A's. I seriously doubt that a man or woman would be willing to risk their M for something that superficial, unless the M is a complete flop.

 

Escorts are easier to explain to the BS, as there is rarely emotion involved. Good post BB:)

[greengoddess]

I'm not here to brag. That only started when I got compared to low level escorts or street hookers. These women see 10men back to back everyday and offer nothing but sex and often unsafe and have bad drug problems. This may help you understand a little bit

http://www.theinternetescortshandbook.com/escort-101/excerpt.php

Now all this having been said we can stop splitting hairs.

 

 

:laugh: You are the one splitting hairs. You are judging the "low level" whores from the expensive whores and making yourself out to be ohhh so much better than them. You really sound like you have a disdain for people who can't afford more expensive things and who make less money. You do the same job, you just chat a little and make them feed you too.

[greengoddess]

that happens too in my type of work. I have had 3 sugar daddy's over the years and in a way still have a couple. One that borderlines sugar daddy right now is actually paying for me to go back to college. He is shelling out $40,000 for the part that I can't get a scholarship for. Another one buys all the clothes for my kids and myself and allows us to use his beach home during the summer. I love sugar daddys may one day retire for the right one.

 

You seem extremely materialistic and I'm going to assume that is why you are in the situation you are in. Will you teach your daughters that it is ok to do anything as long as you get paid well for it?

 

You are not answering any questions. You are on here bragging about your life thinking you are better than people and are living some kind of good life. You are a well paid hooker and nothing more. Wha will you do if your kids ask you to speak at career day?

 

It's like the gentleman's club dancers. They are ALL just supporting their way through nursing school.

[thomasb]

I agree with you green goddess.

[greengoddess]

When I first looked into this thread my initial impulse was that I was probably going to be very scornful of spillinnitall because of the nature of her "profession."

 

However having read most of the posts I really can't because she seems both straightforward, honest, and realistic. Granted, as a "professional" she is going to have a perspective that a lot of people don't share.

 

But, comparing spinninitall to the vast majority of severely delusional, dishonest, emotionally disturbed "non professionals" who seem to be among the most prevalent posters here at Love Shack, spinninitall's honesty and candor is refreshing. And a lot of "YOU" could learn something from that, rather than riding around on your high horses.

 

Did it ever occur to any of you nose-in-the-airs that ALL OF THE WOMEN in ALL of the THREADS who insist that "the man should always pay for the date" with such ferocity--and this seems to be a common topic around here--are basically low class street hookers, in spirit, even assuming they're not actually "putting out" sexually?

 

That's right ladies--you're exchanging your "time" for a free meal. But somehow you're "better" than spinninitall?

 

Why?

 

Because you sell yourself/your time/your bodies cheaper than spinninitall? No that just makes you lower class.

 

Why?

 

Because you pretend that's not what you're doing?

 

 

No again, that just makes you a hypocritical liar.

 

(And this is just the most simple example. Don't get me started on all the other stuff that people seem to think makes them "better" than a hooker.)

 

 

:laugh: ok I am just speechless. Wow. Going on a date is the same as being a hooker. I am really scared for the morals that are held by people today.

[greengoddess]

:laugh: I just want to add that personally I don't have a problem with her wanting to sell her body. It's her body go for it. I think prostitution should be legalized and taxed like it is in Vegas. I don't have a problem with the bunny ranch. It's a much needed service for some people.

 

I do have a problem with the way she is presenting herself though and I really hope no one presents hookerdom as some glamourous life to her daughters. I think it is demeaning yourself for money and nothing glamourous about it. I also think if if I was in a room with soccermom's I could pick out which one she was even though she feels she presents herself so well. You can always tell the women who sleep around even though they don't know it and think they are under the radar.

 

I also have a problem with raking in money under the table doing something illegal and cheating the government when so many hard working people are paying taxes out their ass. Oh and lying. Spinitall lies to almost everyone in her life daily. It must be hard to know what real life is when you lie daily.

[BB07]

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P4B.........spewed out a bunch of garbage...........which doesn't need repeating.

 

Nothing like waking up, reading a post and feeling like you just walked through a big pile of garbage.

[greengoddess]

I feel sorry for you pickles and I think you have a really messed up view of women. I hope you do not expect sex if you take a woman out on a date.

 

A hooker is a sure thing honey and they can find you repulsive and still **** you.

[greengoddess]

Pickles this is just disgusting and says a lot about your attitude toward women. You do not respect them. I'm sure you think they are just here for your sexual pleasue. Your attitude actually freaks me out a little. You feel entitled to a woman if you spend some money on her????

 

The costs of dating should be split equally, to the extent practicable (i.e. it doesn't have to be down to the penny).

 

This doesn't mean every date's cost should be split.

 

But if the guy pays for date 1, then the girl should expect to pay for date 2, roughly speaking.

 

If a girl expects me to pay for every date then she better be very good on her knees.

[greengoddess]

Furthermore, pickles i will not judge a hooker, you seem pretty good at judging every other poster here in a negative way. You are a hypocrit who views all women as nothing more than prostitutes.

[greengoddess]

That's not the issue because she can do what she wants. The issue is you've tried to place yourself in a posture of being morally or ethically superior to spinninitall because she's an escort.

 

 

 

LOL no actually spinitall is trying to present herself as superior to a street hooker.

 

I know pickles honey i know you just love all prostitutes because that's where a woman should be right honey?

Edited September 29, 2010 by greengoddess

[greengoddess]

Pickles your attitude towards women disgusts me. Your purpose for dating disgusts me. You have an unhealthy attitude about sex and I think you will jump from one date to another for life. No one wants to date a man who expects sex for it. You're gross. A fricking caveman.

[greengoddess]

It is not legal in Vegas just in case you were wondering. I think you mean Reno.

I do have a problem with the way she is presenting herself though and I really hope no one presents hookerdom as some glamourous life to her daughters.

 

I don't remember saying it was glamourous:confused:

Is that your spin on it? It pays for my kids education, my education, and living expenses and my savings. Whats glamourous about that?

 

Is it really only reno? Thanks.

Spinitall I think you were trying to paint it that way with your 5 star restaurant comments etc and you were portraying yourself as much superior to the poor young runaway who is sometimes thrust into this life because of poor family situations. You chose this for the money. I have sympathy for the sreet hookers. I will not have sympathy for you if your kids find out. You chose this because of your materialism.

[HappyAtLast]

Pickles4Breakfast is some other posted reincarnated, I believe. The writing style is very familiar, just can't put my finger on who it sounds like.

[HappyAtLast]

Spin - if you make so much money why would you allow a strange man to provide for your children? I always took pride in doing so myself.

 

Your posts are beginning to contradict themselves.

[greengoddess]

No. It says everything about your attitude to women. You believe it appropriate for a woman to expect men to provide them with gratuitous financial benefits such as free meals in exchange for their time. I believe that to be a very mercenary attitude for a woman to have, and therefore see no earthly reason to buy into it unless I am getting a tangible sexual benefit in return. The difference between you and me is that I am honest about it and you are being hypocritical about it.

 

 

 

 

On the contrary it is you who do not respect women, you do not respect them enough to regard them as fully the equals of men and thus fully capable of and responsible for paying their fair share of whatever a date might cost.

 

 

 

Not at all. I expect the woman to pay me for my time. If a woman wants to date me, or for me to ask her out on a date, she should pay. My time is valuable. If she doesn't want to date me, she doesn't have to. If she expects me to come out of pocket to her benefit, then I want sex in exchange for that. If she wants the relationship to be a fully equal one and pays for me, I will be happy to provide sexual favors to her in return for her payment, because I would never go out on a date with someone I wasn't sexually interested in, in the first place.

 

That doesn't make me better or worse than spinninitall.

 

:laugh: I think you need to go back over to the who pays for dates thread. I don't remember telling you that women should not pay for dates. That's in the other conversation you are having. Good luck with your relationships. Remember if you pay for dinner and a woman says no to your advances it means NO. She does not owe you anything. Ugh I think I am going to be ill.

[flying]

Pickles4Breakfast is some other posted reincarnated, I believe. The writing style is very familiar, just can't put my finger on who it sounds like.

 

I can help with that.

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3019592&postcount=151

 

[greengoddess]

Not my intention at all. I feel awful for the ones who get stuck in prostitution for those kinds of reasons. I have actually had my agency call the police on a situation that really hurt me to see happening. There was a borderline down syndrome girl being advertised by her cousin for prostitution. He was pimping her out over the internet and one client who saw her wrote a review explaining that he doesn't think she understands what she is doing and that her cousin handles the $ transactions and even tells them for a little more she will do unsafe stuff. When I saw that I told my agency and we emailed copies of the ads to the police dept after talking to them. Those types of situations are not what I was talking about. I often browse ads to see what craziness is going on and mostly the inexpensive ones get in for greed and enjoy the party lifestyle that goes along with the evening escort crowd. They do drugs of all types, have children that they don't take care of, and give a bad name to the business in general- thats what I am saying I am better then.

And why do you have sympathy for street hookers yet feel I am immoral. They often get in this for $ just as I did. They just happen to not value their lives or anyone elses for that matter. Again with the exception of the ones stuck in it for other reasons.

 

Where did I call you immoral or even allude to you being immoral?

I have a problem with ow who knowingly have full blown relationships with married men. Living a lie every single day. Lying to all their friends and family and hiding that they are with a married man. Being a third party in a two person marriage without the wifes knowledge. I would have no problem with an ow if she would ask the wifes permission first.

 

I have a problem with lying and cheating on your taxes. I have a problem with having a "cover story" for your real job.

[BB07]

I spewed out a bunch of garbage?

 

Aren't you someone who was involved in a very long term affair with a married man?

 

Certainly I hope you don't think you're morally or ethically superior to spinninitall.

 

The absolute nerve of some people. LOL more Love Shack delusional thinking.

 

Excuse me for the t/j. First.....I don't claim to be morally superior to anyone, and both of your comments above are only intended to incite me. I said nothing negative about the op.

 

My post was directly toward you........about all that garbage about men buying women dinner.

 

As for you saying I was involved in a long term affair, you aren't clear on the facts, so.......your insult didn't work.

 

And if you feel the need to reply with more garbage aimed at me.......don't bother, cause you are now on ignore.

[HappyAtLast]

why? I pay a cr@pload every April in taxes and get nothing for it. I pay out of pocket for my kids school and I get denied for a grant for college because my income is too high. Every year that I have worked a regular job it feels like Christmas when April comes around because I forget that regular people actually get money back instead of paying thousands of dollars.

And also why do you care about my cover story for my job?

 

Now that's just silly talk. You choose to send your kids to private school (well, your sugar daddy does). You get nothing for your tax dollars? No police, no fire? No libraries? Why should you get a grant when you can well afford to pay for your own college. Wait, sorry your sugar daddy is also paying for that.

 

I haven't gotten a refund for for forty years. And, frankly, like Ms. Goddess, not buying your story. Too many holes.

[amerikajin]

that happens too in my type of work. I have had 3 sugar daddy's over the years and in a way still have a couple. One that borderlines sugar daddy right now is actually paying for me to go back to college. He is shelling out $40,000 for the part that I can't get a scholarship for. Another one buys all the clothes for my kids and myself and allows us to use his beach home during the summer. I love sugar daddys may one day retire for the right one.

 

Spillinit,

 

I would not normally be so judgmental about your line of work. Although I don't condone adultery, I think the liability or fault lies primarily with the men who visit escorts. You're basically engaged in a business enterprise - one that pays you pretty well. Your line of work has been around since the dawn of civilization. If you don't do it, someone else will. Guaranteed. As long as you're taking care of yourself and your family, then I think it's between the men and their wives as to what happens. Maybe a way to let yourself off the hook, so to speak, is just to make it clear upfront that you're not going to continue seeing someone who discloses that they're married? Sorta like don't ask, don't tell.

 

Anyway, here's the problem I do have: you're basically taking advantage of clients and letting them get much deeper into your life than just the mere services you provide. You are going beyond 'just business,' you are actually making this personal letting them into your life. Don't you think that's going to come back and haunt you at some point? Letting them pay $500 or $1000 for an hour or two of rumbling in the sack is one thing. But when you let these guys spend $40,000 on you that's quite another. These guys are going to end up feeling like they own you. What do you think is going to happen when you get tired of them and decide you want to cut them off? Do you think they're just going to go quietly into the night? Some guys who visit escorts are well-adjusted, but many are not. They visit them because they might feel like they can't find love without buying it, the way they would a car. But however messed up or unreal that dynamic might seem to you and me, there could be real feelings that develop. If I were you, I would be paying for my life with the money I make as an escort and not using a cent more from your clients. You're risking major drama, and not just the Facebook kind.

[greengoddess]

why? I pay a cr@pload every April in taxes and get nothing for it. I pay out of pocket for my kids school and I get denied for a grant for college because my income is too high. Every year that I have worked a regular job it feels like Christmas when April comes around because I forget that regular people actually get money back instead of paying thousands of dollars.

And also why do you care about my cover story for my job?

 

It's the whole living a lie thing that bothers me. Lying to your children daily. Not being honest.

[JustJoe]

Nope. plain and simple. NO. For some maybe, but not me. I don't want to be disgusted by someone I'm about to have sex with. I exercise my right to choose.

I'll get off my high horse so as to stop offending some of these women here because I didn't get on LS to offend anyone. All I wanted to do was give a HONEST insight into what really goes on. I want to arm some women (who aren't too busy getting offended) with tips to either find out that their SO is doing this or to keep them from doing this. I mean to help not offend. And I'm sure you would(speaking generally here) love to think you can tell which one of the soccer moms does this because you think its wrote all over them...well you are wrong. I don't walk around flaunting my looks, hitting on husbands or even sleep around outside of my job. When I get into a relationship I am in fact fully committed and outside of my job I am no different then other people.

Sure I am a bit materialistic. I own that one.

As for what I'll teach my daughters, well I don't have one. Plus in 3yrs max this will be old history left in the past.

But hey, I knew I was going to get judged by some. I have a thick skin, so go ahead.

Good day to all. Spillin , you say that when you get into a relationship, you are fully committed. Does this mean that you quit working , for the duration? If so, then OK but if you still hook/escort, then you really are deceiving your SO, aren't you.

[Sham WOW]

Hi Spillin,

I'm sorry that I haven't been through all 13 pages yet, so I'm sorry if this has already been asked!

 

Do you ever fear for your safety?

Did you choose this profession because of the money or do you enjoy sex with a lot of partners? Is it money or sex I mean!

Will you stop being an escort when you get a boyfriend?

What do you do when you find a client to be really disgusting?

 

Thanks in advance!