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I've known TONS of people whose parents smoked pot when they were growing up, and still do. They are not degenerates or fiends. It wasn't like they all shared it or something. Mom and/or Dad would just go outside or to the garage once in a while and come back smiling. What's the difference between that and having a glass of wine? Y'all are uptight! I don't think you realize how many people smoke pot out there in the world. In some states it's been decriminalized - HELLO, what does that tell you? Friends of mine live in a neighborhood where someone just got a license to grow. Plus, think how out of control she'd be if she didn't smoke, considering! :rolleyes:

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KTD, I was hesitant to say anything here since I'm a fBW and didn't want to come across as being a wet blanket just because of my experience. I've read through this thread, and there are some great cautionary points being made, so you certainly don't need me adding to them.

 

To be honest, the only thing I want to say is that I think staying at his house poses a risk to you personally. As I was reading your original post, I was mortified because I thought, "what if she comes back?" and sure enough, she did.

 

For me, this post isn't about BS vs WS vs OW. This is about you and keeping yourself safe, and I think the best way to do that is to avoid his residence.

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Well, I for one hope you join GEL's happy club of living happily ever after with your MM. :)

 

One thing is sure, if you don't give love a chance, you aren't going to get any.

 

Thank you. I'm under no elusive fantasy that it may be a rough road ahead or that he is for sure 100% set in his decision, but I do know that even though he at first made a choice of staying in' his M, it wasn't because he stopped caring about me. He was put in the spot to make a choice...and when he did hr knew he had to do it with integrity rather than agreeing to her terms but not giving a crap and still continuing the A. Many mm wouldn't give either woman that much respect. He's not a cake eater he's genuinely seeking doing the right thing for everyone.

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The police had my home address and mobile number flagged so at the first sign of trouble they would be alerted to the history of violence and would prioritise accordingly. Perhaps that's the case here.

 

I know for a fact they can trace a cell. My daughter hit the emergency button in my phone while I was showering before and before I was dressed and out of the bathroom they were banging on my front door. They gave her quite a stern talking to about playing with the phone.

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I've never known a kid to ingest pot....I think the only way it is distribution and sales is if it's individually packaged...also it sounds like she has a script for it (prescription).

 

No MM won't go down for her weed...if she has a script she might slide also...weed is not that big of a deal these days.

 

It sounds like shes on more than weed...

 

No script for it. She just has friends who do and she gets all the throw away trimmings for free. Not the good stuff, she has to sort through seeds and stems to get down to stuff that is smokeable. That's why there was so much. He said it was nearing like 10 pounds. An entire garbage bag and freezer bag.

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This is my biggest concern for you, KTD. In your opening post of Stupid, you said he was offering you even less this time when he came back. He clearly was only concerned about getting his occasional needs met. For him to drag you into his marital mess by calling you over to spend the night as soon as this big blow-up happened, is once again only self-serving, IMO.

 

The other thing I thought, after what was certainly a horrible and traumatic event for his children, why wasn't he there for/with his kids? I would think it would be a great comfort to them to at least have Daddy with them, esp. not knowing what's going to happen to Mommy. I understand that they are with Grandma. IMO, if he was much of a man, and much of a daddy, he would be with his kids, wherever they were. He would have turned to his kids, to comforting and reassuring and caring for them, made them a priority at this time of THEIR crisis. Because it's a lot worse crisis for those little kids than for him.

 

I just think instead of him basking in your comfort and love at this time, he should be providing it for his kids. I think this speaks volumes about his character, compassion, and selflessness - or lack thereof.

 

Again, this has nothing to do with him being MM, and all to do with what kind of person he is. It speaks of one who would be more than willing for you to be the sacrificial lamb Pure spoke of.

 

(sorry for the partial quote, pure)

 

He was very shaken by the whole thing. Sometimes the best thing for the kids is to not see the other one panicking. Grandma took them to keep them in a place of normalcy. Hugs and kisses and video games and ice cream and assurance that mommy and daddy just have to get their minds cleared out for a minute. The w hadn't even left yet when they went to grandma's. He didn't want the fighting to ensue and them be subject to anything else.

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Ok MM has an argument that gets out of hand she hits him he does nothing

cops are called and such.This is all over phones and he handled it wonderfully

he called the cops to defend his self what makes me wonder is he was working it out with her knowing she has and is smoking pot it did not matter that much before but all of a sudden he throws her under the bus and tells the cops where it is.Why did he not throw it away before? She is not

perfect as a matter of fact shes a monster that he was giving another chance to why would you give a monster a chance when they can turn on you any minute could it be that he wanted to trap her.She knew he was cheating I would also be angry and I bet their was more to the story what sucks she comes home and he does not let her in because the OW is there so how wrong is she compared to him.I am not saying this aginst you I just think she has a side to.They do need to part no doubt and then maybe she will get it together and he can be with you the main thing is the kids are happy.I wish you luck and happiness with this man and a better life for his ex wife to be.

Remember it takes two to tango so little pieces are missing so go into this slow.Good Luck

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I think one thing KTB is knowingly not mentioning is the fact that his W was selling drugs. I think this explains why she was associating with all the druggie guys as KTB says MM claims...also explains why she doesn't go to work...also explains why a not so SAHM type decides to stay at home.... and the list goes on. I am really wondering what role did he play in this. How did he allow his W to do this. Perhaps he was OK with it till she started cheating. Just thinking out loud here.

 

This is funny. Here u can get a medical card for a damn hangnail. There are pot dispensaries on every corner just like u would see gas stations. Everyone knows someone who can get you some. And it's the pure kind, store bought. Street sales are practically a thing of the past.

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I did want to add that something with the smoking pot isn't adding up.

 

I have NO idea what goes on in his home and I don't assume to but it's almost like he was either just fine with it, as long as things with his W were going ok or he was a willing participant.

 

The police would have confiscated the paraphenalia, that I know for certain.

 

I really think if he had to take a drug test tomorrow that he'd have a lot of splaining to do...

 

He handed the pot over to the police. They did not search the house for periphenalia. This stuff was in her drawers and closet. And he works on very expensive and dangerous machinery for a living. He is drug tested all the time for his job. Nope wasn't him.

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This is funny. Here u can get a medical card for a damn hangnail. There are pot dispensaries on every corner just like u would see gas stations. Everyone knows someone who can get you some. And it's the pure kind, store bought. Street sales are practically a thing of the past.

 

interesting. I suppose I have no clue where you live then. Street sales are still around where I live for sure. My oldest stepson has been getting into lots of trouble the last few months because of this. The city he lives in is full of drug dealers and drug related crime(I've been trying to help his mom move). I'll assume then I have no clue as to what laws are around where you live, KTD. Did MM give you any explanation as to why he didn't want to spend the night with his kids after they went through such a trauma?

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interesting. Did MM give you any explanation as to why he didn't want to spend the night with his kids after they went through such a trauma?

 

Hugs, kisses, video games, ice cream - with the adults.

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This whole situation stinks, Karma - stay just far enough that the stink doesn't stick to you as well. MM knew about this stuff all along, and yet he stayed and stayed - he only 'left' when things exploded over his wife's affairs.

 

For some reason, I don't think this is the end of his marriage - for whatever reason these two people seem to need each other in their own sick way like addicts or something: they both screw around on each other, one is a druggie and the other is an enabler and neither have their children's best interests in mind, and yet they keep going back to each other even when they find a healthier love on the outside. Give the man a copy of Codependent No More or something!

 

I say steer very clear for a while until this dust settles - yes, you can be a support system for MM if you can but trust me: I have a family member who is in a marriage just like this (only it was the H who was on crack, in and out of jail and habitually cheated - even left to live with an OW for a while) and here they are 24 years later still married. They need each other in some way that the rest of us who are fairly stable will never understand.

 

He needs to get his W completely out of his system before you and he can meaningfully be together. Regardless of what his 'truth' was or is - you can bet that if this explosion hadn't happened he'd still be at home 'giving her a fair chance'.

 

She must be his crack: something that ruins his life but that he absolutely has to keep going back to. Until he can get whatever that codependence thing he has going on with her over and done with, there is no way in heaven or hell I'd be in a relationship with him.

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This whole situation stinks, Karma - stay just far enough that the stink doesn't stick to you as well. MM knew about this stuff all along, and yet he stayed and stayed - he only 'left' when things exploded over his wife's affairs.

 

For some reason, I don't think this is the end of his marriage - for whatever reason these two people seem to need each other in their own sick way like addicts or something: they both screw around on each other, one is a druggie and the other is an enabler and neither have their children's best interests in mind, and yet they keep going back to each other even when they find a healthier love on the outside. Give the man a copy of Codependent No More or something!

 

I say steer very clear for a while until this dust settles - yes, you can be a support system for MM if you can but trust me: I have a family member who is in a marriage just like this (only it was the H who was on crack, in and out of jail and habitually cheated - even left to live with an OW for a while) and here they are 24 years later still married. They need each other in some way that the rest of us who are fairly stable will never understand.

 

He needs to get his W completely out of his system before you and he can meaningfully be together. Regardless of what his 'truth' was or is - you can bet that if this explosion hadn't happened he'd still be at home 'giving her a fair chance'.

 

She must be his crack: something that ruins his life but that he absolutely has to keep going back to. Until he can get whatever that codependence thing he has going on with her over and done with, there is no way in heaven or hell I'd be in a relationship with him.

 

You're absolutely right and I know that feeling of staying with someone just because it is your life and an addiction. I can attest that a traumatic experience is what it took for me' to walk away despite planning to for years. This may be the best odds he's got at a clean break. But the risk is there all the same. And if he does take her back it will probably be my last straw. I might even use those exact words and tell him that she is apparently his crack addiction that he can't break and that he clearly cant pull his head from his arse to control the unhealthy situation. But that's the IF! In the meantime he's remaining strong and firm and still disgusted with her. For that I will be his rock.

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The OP was quite long, so I guess I could have missed something but...

She had TEN POUNDS of pot, and was not taken into custody by the police?

 

No way.

 

Well obviously KTD, you are going to believe what you want to believe, so I wish you luck.

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For that I will be his rock.

 

Be your own rock as well! I wish you well whatever may come of this.

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I can only echo what others have said so well

 

None of it adds up. The lack of care for his childrens well being in light of the drugs, not caring that his W was dealing when he has a job where he is required to be drug tested all the time, allowing his W to drive the kids around high etc etc. the drug paraphenalia when he handed over 10 pounds of drugs?

 

Seriously with that kind of quantity being handed over dont you think theyd search the house up and down? Truth is stranger than fiction but the pieces of this story just dont add up. I know when I posted an odd story a few weeks ago I changed some of the facts to protect the parties and as a result the details had holes tho the bigger picture was intact. Perhaps the same is true here. And its understandable you wouldnt want to give ALL the details as they happen IRT as its too identifiable. But if most of what you say is how it is, you are in for a rough ride.

 

KTD you are seeing what you want to see because you are in love

 

But really you need to look at how hes treated you and treated his kids - with a lack of care. I hope this works out for you but I have a very bad feeling it wont. As someone else said this isnt about giving love a chance this is about not getting into a terrible situation. Yourre asking for a starring role on the Jerry Springer show. They dont even have to pay the W to beat him up on camera. Is this really what you want for yourself?

 

And I agree with Fields. Its very possible hes not done with her. No doubt there were fireworks but a few days ago he was giving her a chance. Whats to say he wont change his mind in a day or week or month.

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I don't know as much about the law as other posters. But here, I believe there are search and seizure laws that require a warrant. Perhaps the MM volunteered her pot to the police .. but were they entitled to go in and search/seize - on the spot.

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I don't believe the MM. Think he's full of BS and I think the OP is so in love she's willing to eat up anything.

To the OP how do you know she's cheating on him? Have you seen the evidence?

 

So she smokes pot... why has he allowed her to get away with it, and in such quantities? Where was the concern for the children in the past?

 

He has bruises and cuts, fine, I'll believe she attacked him. But I would be ape **** crazy, too, if my husband was cheating on me. Have you seen the police report, btw?

 

10 lbs of pot... come on. :rolleyes: What, does she work for a Mexican cartel? That's the weight of a baby. Don't deny she had pot, but I question the amount.

 

It takes two people to ruin a marriage... your MM doesn't smell like roses.

 

 

Yup. Lying still. Like I said before...God bless those kids with parents like these two. They are disgusting.

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Where I live, MM would also be guilty of felony possession of drugs, and would also be charged with endangering the welfare of a minor x 4. He would also most like be allowed supervised visitation. Just because he got mad and ratted her out would in no way exonerate him of all guilt, either for the drugs, or for exposing his children to it.

 

 

This man apparently threw you under the bus at some time prior. He tells you yesterday that he wants to try to work things out with his W, give Hera fair chance, and that he just wants a little bookie from you once in a while to give him something to "smile about on a boring day."

 

Just because his wife has now left under very volatile circumstances, KTD, do you think this is really the man you want? Do you think he will love you and respect you, and be there for you the way you want a man to be? Do you think he is finished with his W? Do you think he will be faithful and true, and honest with you? Is this the man you want to be daddy to your children? Will he be the role model they need?

 

I wish you the best - just make sure he's really the guy you want to invest your heart and yoir children in, the kind of guy you want to bank your future on.

 

Exactly! And he chose his wife and family. Then they have a fight and it is as if HE chose Karma. BULL. He had a fight with his wife. I am betting within the month, they make up.

 

I've never known a kid to ingest pot....I think the only way it is distribution and sales is if it's individually packaged...also it sounds like she has a script for it (prescription).

 

No MM won't go down for her weed...if she has a script she might slide also...weed is not that big of a deal these days.

 

 

Are you kidding???? Here are a few tidbits, which I found just by using google.

 

A mother and her roommate have been charged with reckless endangerment of a child after her 2-year-old daughter ate marijuana she found in a motel room.

 

 

 

and

 

a ten-month old was hospitalized after eating marijuana edibles.

These are just two quick hits I found. I can't believe you would seriously believe that kids wouldn't inject pot! I also don't understand how you would think it has to be pre-packaged to go down as selling. It is the QUANTITY that is used to determine distribution.

 

and you seriously think the MM won't go down (or couldn't go down) for the weed being in the house? OMG - I am stunned!! If it is in HIS home, he can be charged!!! Call your local police station and ask them. Watch the TV show cops. POSSESSION means its yours. He KNEW it was there and DID NOTHING. What does that say about the kind of man he is???

 

Glad you believe it isn't that big of a deal for 4 children to live in a home where the parents are stoned all the time. :rolleyes: It is ILLEGAL.

 

This is my biggest concern for you, KTD. In your opening post of Stupid, you said he was offering you even less this time when he came back. He clearly was only concerned about getting his occasional needs met. For him to drag you into his marital mess by calling you over to spend the night as soon as this big blow-up happened, is once again only self-serving, IMO.

 

The other thing I thought, after what was certainly a horrible and traumatic event for his children, why wasn't he there for/with his kids? I would think it would be a great comfort to them to at least have Daddy with them, esp. not knowing what's going to happen to Mommy. I understand that they are with Grandma. IMO, if he was much of a man, and much of a daddy, he would be with his kids, wherever they were. He would have turned to his kids, to comforting and reassuring and caring for them, made them a priority at this time of THEIR crisis. Because it's a lot worse crisis for those little kids than for him.

 

I just think instead of him basking in your comfort and love at this time, he should be providing it for his kids. I think this speaks volumes about his character, compassion, and selflessness - or lack thereof.

 

Again, this has nothing to do with him being MM, and all to do with what kind of person he is. It speaks of one who would be more than willing for you to be the sacrificial lamb Pure spoke of.

 

(sorry for the partial quote, pure)

 

Yep. He didn't CHOOSE KTD - he chose his wife and then they had a fight. He didn't leave his wife. He got mad and kicked her out. As 'conflicted' as he is, he will probably let her return.

 

For everyone jumping on me' about the kids...please read again...THEY WERE NOT THERE. GRANDMA HAD THEM FOR THE NIGHT.what they went through was traumatizing enough. No I'm not going to just walk in and say hi I'm here to replace your mommy. He's VERY careful about his children and wants to protect them from as much of this as he can.

 

They should have been with their father - NOT their grandma. He should have been more concerned about THEM than getting his needs met, as he told you that is why he wanted to stay in touch with you. I am just stunned that 24 hours after being told you are his "F Buddy", you rush right back into his arms and his bed. Honestly Karma, that shows you have very little respect for yourself. Where were YOUR kids during all this???

 

This man is not even remotely careful about his children. He allowed them to be in a house full of dope with an alleged abusive dopehead - for years! Then the kids go through this horrendous crisis, Mommy disappears, and Daddy spends the night shagging you instead of being there for his kids? No, the man doesn't give a rat's a$$ about his kids. Getting his needs met is clearly his priority, every time. Sorry, but talk's cheap. His actions say otherwise.

 

Agree!!!

 

I don't really see anything unethical about KTB having a relationship with her MM. Clearly, the MM wants to sever the ties with his wife and that's a really bad relationship that needs to be terminated.

 

Clearly? Where is it clear? He chose his wife and dumped KTD. He told KTD she would be a good FWB. he then had a fight with his wife and called Karma for a little soothing. Dumped his kids off so he could have sex.

 

No script for it. She just has friends who do and she gets all the throw away trimmings for free. Not the good stuff, she has to sort through seeds and stems to get down to stuff that is smokeable. That's why there was so much. He said it was nearing like 10 pounds. An entire garbage bag and freezer bag.

 

10 lbs and he did NOTHING about it? Great dad he is. :rolleyes:

 

The OP was quite long, so I guess I could have missed something but...

She had TEN POUNDS of pot, and was not taken into custody by the police?

 

No way.

 

Well obviously KTD, you are going to believe what you want to believe, so I wish you luck.

 

Agree

 

I don't believe the MM. Think he's full of BS and I think the OP is so in love she's willing to eat up anything.

 

To the OP how do you know she's cheating on him? Have you seen the evidence?

 

So she smokes pot... why has he allowed her to get away with it, and in such quantities? Where was the concern for the children in the past?

 

He has bruises and cuts, fine, I'll believe she attacked him. But I would be ape **** crazy, too, if my husband was cheating on me. Have you seen the police report, btw?

 

10 lbs of pot... come on. :rolleyes: What, does she work for a Mexican cartel? That's the weight of a baby. Don't deny she had pot, but I question the amount.

 

It takes two people to ruin a marriage... your MM doesn't smell like roses.

 

Agreed!

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I don't know as much about the law as other posters. But here, I believe there are search and seizure laws that require a warrant. Perhaps the MM volunteered her pot to the police .. but were they entitled to go in and search/seize - on the spot.

 

Thats exactly why its clear that we arent being told the truth. Maybe KTD knows all the facts and doesnt want to put too much online but

 

H who lives there, gives the pot to the cops. The cops say gee more than 10 pounds gee thanks man, we'll just take this and be on our way we dont need to look around and see if theres anything more here, thats enough of a catch for us for the whole month :rolleyes:

 

and well just call our supervisor to see if we need to arrest the woman (who we just spoke to by the way) who beat up her H and left this huge stash of drugs at her house. Nope we are done for the day. Donut time.

 

I dont care WHERE you live. Unless you are in Amsterdam or somewhere else where pot is legal, it just doesnt go down this way.

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Umm, you're saying these men are conflicted?? Come on..he called KTD because he was scared, and needed an ally, not because she's the love of his life. He had recently thrown her under the bus! You can continue to tell her to support this man, but he will throw her under the bus again. Probably in the next couple of weeks. When he decides to give his wife yet another chance.

 

Unfortunately, I agree.

 

And when will the OW on LS learn that being thrown under the bus is just par for the course and to be expected? It has nothing to do with whether the MM loves her or not, and everything to do with him being conflicted, torn and trying to do the right thing.

 

Are you serious? Wow. What some people are willing to accept astounds me.This guy isn't conflicted. He's an opportunist.

 

Really? I guess I just assumed this didn't happen to the OW who married their MM. I can't imagine those ladies putting up with it. (I'm being serious, not catty.) I just can't imagine GEL or OWoman putting up with that for one minute.

 

I couldn't. I guess I just have a low tolerance for being someone's shoe-wipe - whether they are married or single.

 

Exactly. I totally agree. I don't get it. Also, for those who said the wife was "evicted" uhm, no. You can't evict someone from their own house. It's still her house too. I think it's despicable that you're staying in her house, Karma. Where is your self-respect? Yes, it's his house too but he obviously has no sense and only wants what he wants when he wants it.

 

I'm sorry to say that this is a disaster waiting to happen. If this works out I will eat my hat and my words. I'd actually bet all that I have on the fact that he goes right back to the wife. He wants what he can't have (the wife.) You're always there and always available...most men run like the wind from women like that. It's true.

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This is my biggest concern for you, KTD. In your opening post of Stupid, you said he was offering you even less this time when he came back. He clearly was only concerned about getting his occasional needs met. For him to drag you into his marital mess by calling you over to spend the night as soon as this big blow-up happened, is once again only self-serving, IMO.

 

The other thing I thought, after what was certainly a horrible and traumatic event for his children, why wasn't he there for/with his kids? I would think it would be a great comfort to them to at least have Daddy with them, esp. not knowing what's going to happen to Mommy. I understand that they are with Grandma. IMO, if he was much of a man, and much of a daddy, he would be with his kids, wherever they were. He would have turned to his kids, to comforting and reassuring and caring for them, made them a priority at this time of THEIR crisis. Because it's a lot worse crisis for those little kids than for him.

 

I just think instead of him basking in your comfort and love at this time, he should be providing it for his kids. I think this speaks volumes about his character, compassion, and selflessness - or lack thereof.

 

Again, this has nothing to do with him being MM, and all to do with what kind of person he is. It speaks of one who would be more than willing for you to be the sacrificial lamb Pure spoke of.

 

(sorry for the partial quote, pure)

 

FOG, you are very right, and I lived it, thinking at times I was doing the right thing. There is a big difference when you are dealing with a S who has endured much abuse. Maybe like one of the posters spoke of, it is the drama needed for the make up. ExDM and his exW did this until I came into the picture.

 

In thinking, I mostlikely blew all of their minds. All of them were so used to the drama and expected it from me, ESPECIALLY after what they tried to do to me and I did not retaliate (and I could have in spades). I really have to wonder after 30 years of games, then all of a sudden ...game over.

 

KTD, had I handled things different (I was traumatised from other things though too), it would have been better for both of us, I would have seen what was really going on and been a better friend to him. I would have stepped away when he would get weird and stressed. I would have put him in his place and better able to communicate that HE made his bed, and not me, I didn't marry the woman...HE did...I would have made sure he was accountable for what was his and not tried to take so much on...I was playing God in a sense.

 

I would have been more compassionate and not so worried about he and I being together, that would have been shelved, back burner, whatever term is best.

 

I think the reason R's fail for the mostpart is the respect and friendship are lost along the way.

 

I can guarantee the less you settle for, will be the less you get in return. You won't be doing him any favors by allowing less (and I 'm saying this for future references), in fact you would be enabling him not to be his best.

 

Men feel better about themselves and others when they reciprocate...men love to give, BUT, they won't if they don't have to (at least the ones I've seen). The men I have been with have loved to make me happy...back then I didn't see it, nor did I appreciate it.

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I can guarantee the less you settle for, will be the less you get in return.

 

Truer words were never spoken. The thing is you first have to even recognize that you're settling...that's the tricky part.

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Thats exactly why its clear that we arent being told the truth. Maybe KTD knows all the facts and doesnt want to put too much online but

 

H who lives there, gives the pot to the cops. The cops say gee more than 10 pounds gee thanks man, we'll just take this and be on our way we dont need to look around and see if theres anything more here, thats enough of a catch for us for the whole month :rolleyes:

 

and well just call our supervisor to see if we need to arrest the woman (who we just spoke to by the way) who beat up her H and left this huge stash of drugs at her house. Nope we are done for the day. Donut time.

 

I dont care WHERE you live. Unless you are in Amsterdam or somewhere else where pot is legal, it just doesnt go down this way.

 

I'm priddy sure there isn't a problem if it is volunteered, and since the H is on the deed/lease the cops were allowed entry and allowed to search by the owner/renter.

 

If a car is pulled over for speeding and the cop finds something else in the process I think that makes it legal.

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Exactly Lisa. So why isnt this crystsal clear to everyone but KTD who is blinded by love?

 

Pure, I was being sarcastic. Of course the police would have access and defies belief that things went down the way MM said they did. If you see it differently well have to agree to disagree

 

This is one big fairy tale and I cant believe so many people are buying it. It makes sense KTD is buying it, shes in love but whats up with the rest of you who think this is believable?

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