Girls who are size ZERO and smaller look GREAT

[threebyfate]

Yep. I remember there was a big brouhaha over Beyonce's weight loss for her role in "Dreamgirls". She went through that crazy liquid diet that was called, I don't remember...*Googles*...oh yeah, Master Cleanse. Crazy s*it concocted of lemon juice, maple syrup and cayenne pepper.

Beyonce has the body type that's prone to weight gain. During the height of her Destiny's Child career, she ate exactly six slices of tomatoes and four slices of cucumbers for lunch to maintain her weight. This was when she was 21 years old where her body between rigorous dance routines/working out and the height of her testosterone levels, shouldn't have had to get to that degree of dietary concern. She's not meant to be as thin-looking as others who naturally gravitate to thinner proportions.

 

But then, I don't believe in dieting or boot camp style over-exercise extremism. The see-saw battle traumatizes the body, causing it to go into starvation mode of hoarding calories or needing the same or greater levels of boot camp exercise so it doesn't put on more weight afterwards. Better to maintain your body through regular exercise and healthy eating habits.

[tigressA]

I agree...I thought she looked great in the movie, but she looks great all the time, no matter her weight. Your sentence that says "She's not meant to be as thin-looking as others who naturally gravitate to thinner proportions" touches on what I mentioned earlier in the thread--there are common misconceptions that some naturally bigger women have--that they'll be able to diet themselves into the exact body they want, but it will never happen because they were born with naturally fuller hips or a wide waist or whatever else.

 

I've seen pictures of Jennifer Hudson and Kelly Osbourne lately after their dramatic weight losses. I wish they had kept on a little more. They both just look weird now. Jen's head doesn't even look like it should go on her body anymore.

[irc333]

I'm more into the Kim Kardassian build....perfect build in a woman for ME.

 

 

 

I really feel society (american) has tilted to where it is ok to tell a girl to EAT MORE or GAIN SOME WEIGHT. Seriously, that is rude and disrespectful and I should be able to go up to random women and tell them to eat LESS and LOSE weight.

 

Size zero and smaller women look really hot. I realize at different places sizes are different. But recently my gf was getting measured for a brides maid dress by FAT women and she was there with her friend the BRIDE who is a bigger size then her. And when it turned out my gf was smaller then their size zero the women sad something nasty like "you need to eat more" and my gf's friend mad some face or something. It's bs that hot women have to put up with this crap from fatter less attractive women who think its acceptable to tell women to EAT MORE and ect...

[theBrokenMuse]

This is the sixth thread you've created about negative crap to do with fat people, why are you so obsessed? You've even mentioned before in another one of these types of fat bashing threads that you were worried that your girlfriend might become fat one day but if she is naturally less than a size zero at 5'7 then that isn't even a rational fear. You can't seem to stop flinging mud at an entire group of people because they don't look they way you think they should. You've already gotten your point across ten thousand times over about what you think of fat people. Enough already, this is getting kinda creepy.

[Surrealist]

I'm more into the Kim Kardassian build....perfect build in a woman for ME.

 

Yep... was trying to think of a Celeb who I liked in terms of build and appearance generally.

 

 

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.brobible.com/files/images/buzz/kim-kardashian.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.brobible.com/story/bodily-exposure-is-at-a-premium-in-this-weeks-top-5-hottie-index/&usg=__BXWgQCZCrbBStajGurUxH7Kw2So=&h=400&w=600&sz=48&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=QkOC7h3ms4xvxM:&tbnh=126&tbnw=185&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dkim%2Bkardashian%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Ds%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D578%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C114&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=376&ei=66K5TK2FN4TovQOY6-W5DQ&oei=66K5TK2FN4TovQOY6-W5DQ&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=25&ved=1t:429,r:18,s:0&tx=97&ty=48&biw=1280&bih=578

 

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[Jannah]

The real question though, is....who is the better dancer?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAkaAn4cWTM

 

[tinktronik]

Don't forget about size inflation as a factor, though.

 

I'm 5 ft 5. When I graduated from HS in 1986, I weighed 115 and wore a size 6. Now I'm ten pounds heavier at 125 and yesterday at the mall I bought two pairs of size 2 pants!!!!????

 

That is a great point. I weigh anywhere between 128-155 depending on how lazy I'm feeling and my diet within a given 4 month span. I'm 5 ft. 8.

 

At 128 I get lots of comments about how I'm too thin, need to eat ect. and I fit in a size 3 or a size 5 or a size 6 depending on the brand. But at 155 I still look slim-ish, not fat by any means, I fit in a size 9 or a size 10 but I even have a few size 4 that fit. I think a lot of women pick their favorie brand based on who has the smallest number on the tag that fits them.

 

I'm not sure why anyone feels it's socially appropriate to tell someone else how to comport themselves at the dinner table. I will admit I have wanted to feed or starve a guest depending on the situation.

[brainygirl]

I've never seen a woman who is thin and attractive be told to eat more . . . . I have seen women (I worked with when I was in nursing) who were dieting like crazy to be thin and complaining about being tired and cold all the time be told to eat a snack.

 

I have to agree with the previous poster though, Green puts a lot of effort into making sure that everyone knows and agrees that fat women are just not attractive.

 

Funny thing is . . . Green's never shown us how fat he isn't . . . . makes me wonder. You know another funny thing . . . . being a bit over weight is actually correlated to lower mortality rates across the board than being under weight or at the "ideal" weight? Kinda blows your whole "healthy" argument out of the water.

 

You know what else, and this ones great, there is so much more to a well rounded person than their weight, the fact that Green (and others) base their entire dating strategy on the weight they or their potential mates carry tells me one thing :theres a lot of pathetic, shallow people out there.

 

So I'll just leave this "I'm so skinny, its such a burden to be attractive" love fest now. Bye.

[BruceLeroy]

I don't think I want to date a chick who is a size zero. I just looked at a sizing chart. Women's US size 4 was a 29 inch at the boobs and 30 at the hip so I can't even imagine a size zero resembling a woman. A child maybe. Something fishy going on with this sizing thing.

[brainygirl]

I don't think I want to date a chick who is a size zero. I just looked at a sizing chart. Women's US size 4 was a 29 inch at the boobs and 30 at the hip so I can't even imagine a size zero resembling a woman. A child maybe. Something fishy going on with this sizing thing.

 

Well, women's clothing sizes have to accomodate everyone from teens who are too old for children's clothes up to grown women with children and lives, so the sizes ought to have a range to them, plus there are just different builds of people.

 

I DO hate the vanity sizing phenomenon, and it's sometimes with in brands of clothing. I bought four pairs of work slacks online, two of one style and two of another, I ordered the size I needed based on that brand's published charts.

 

When the order came, two pairs were way too big and I can't keep them up without a belt, so they look sloppy, and two pairs fit just right. Both the same size. Its frustrating, because were I live, its quite a drive to a shopping mall, but trying every pair on has become necessary.

 

Found the same thing at a store too. Tried on some jeans, 16 fit great, picked another style, grabbed a 16 there, got home, the second 16 is too big and always falling down.

 

I'd rather buy the size that fits me than worry about what its called.

[porter218]

I don't think I want to date a chick who is a size zero. I just looked at a sizing chart. Women's US size 4 was a 29 inch at the boobs and 30 at the hip so I can't even imagine a size zero resembling a woman. A child maybe. Something fishy going on with this sizing thing.

 

I don't think all companies stick to an exact sizing chart. I am anywhere between a zero to 4 depending on the brand I wear. And I assure you there is nothing 'childish' about my body. I think the size chart has changed unbelievably since I was 18. I was a 6 back then and I still have those clothes and they still fit me now...but current clothing I wear claims to be a zero:confused:. Some people can look healthy at a zero and some people look waaay too skinny at a zero...don't put too much thought into it...it is just a friggin number. Who really looks at their gf/Ws clothing size anyway?

[LucreziaBorgia]

Size zero and smaller women look really hot.

 

I think if they are naturally built that way they can look hot like you said. I have seen some slender framed women that looked good.

 

However - I've seen some larger framed women who look terrible at smaller sizes like that.

 

I'm a larger framed woman (broad shoulders, larger wrist measurements, wide pelvis) and some years back I became obsessed with losing weight and got hooked on diet pills (speed basically) and lost weight down to a size 6 - now at 5-8 you'd think that would look good, but on me - um. No. I had coworkers come to me and point out where my breastbone and ribs were visible, where my elbows jutted out from my skin, and how my jawline looked odd, my shoulder blades jutted out, etc. I looked terrible. And that was at a size 6! If I had dropped to a zero, I would have looked like death. Even with exercise, I was starting to look like muscle draped over skeleton.

 

It is not a good thing to throw all women into one size category. Some women just aren't meant to be that small and still be healthy.

 

Vanity sizing in the clothing industry doesn't help. Honestly, there should be universal sizing and do away with vanity sizing altogether.

 

As for myself, I'm 5 months pregnant and in a size twelve and I had someone come up to me and say "you are all belly! you are so tiny!" I wouldn't call myself tiny by any means, but with my proportions I don't look overweight. I just look like I smuggled a basketball in my shirt.

 

Its all about proportion to height and frame and staying within it regardless of clothing size.

 

Overweight = more girth than height/frame, which I agree does not look healthy.

Edited October 16, 2010 by LucreziaBorgia

[porter218]

Vanity sizing in the clothing industry doesn't help. Honestly, there should be universal sizing and do away with vanity sizing altogether.

 

And some of the worst about vanity sizing are the bridal shops...which is where OP was.

[LucreziaBorgia]

And some of the worst about vanity sizing are the bridal shops...which is where OP was.

 

Yeah, I hate stuff like that. My soon to be 14 yr old daughter is 5-9, 135. We are from a mixed race background and we have more ethnic body traits, so she has a round bottom, a tiny waist, and a growing bra size - much more curvy than her other 8th grade friends who obsess over staying at 100 pounds (granted they are shorter, but they are flatter all over too if you get my drift).

 

I hate it that she feels 'fat' around her friends even when her body fat percentage is low, and I hate it that when I take her to one store and she is a size 4 and another that shows her a size 6 she frets over the size difference! She is in no way overweight or unhealthy, but I'm afraid that pressure like the sort you see "size zero is hot" is going to drive her to the same extremes that I went through to be "skinny". Women in my family just aren't - we have the shape and frames of the women before us: the round bottom and hips, the small waist and generous breasts and we will never be 'size zero' women. Not without being sickly and losing all of the traits that make us women to begin with.

[sartrelazyeye]

I think if they are naturally built that way they can look hot like you said. I have seen some slender framed women that looked good.

 

However - I've seen some larger framed women who look terrible at smaller sizes like that.

 

I'm a larger framed woman (broad shoulders, larger wrist measurements, wide pelvis) and some years back I became obsessed with losing weight and got hooked on diet pills (speed basically) and lost weight down to a size 6 - now at 5-8 you'd think that would look good, but on me - um. No. I had coworkers come to me and point out where my breastbone and ribs were visible, where my elbows jutted out from my skin, and how my jawline looked odd, my shoulder blades jutted out, etc. I looked terrible. And that was at a size 6! If I had dropped to a zero, I would have looked like death. Even with exercise, I was starting to look like muscle draped over skeleton.

 

It is not a good thing to throw all women into one size category. Some women just aren't meant to be that small and still be healthy.

 

Vanity sizing in the clothing industry doesn't help. Honestly, there should be universal sizing and do away with vanity sizing altogether.

 

As for myself, I'm 5 months pregnant and in a size twelve and I had someone come up to me and say "you are all belly! you are so tiny!" I wouldn't call myself tiny by any means, but with my proportions I don't look overweight. I just look like I smuggled a basketball in my shirt.

 

Its all about proportion to height and frame and staying within it regardless of clothing size.

 

Overweight = more girth than height/frame, which I agree does not look healthy.

 

I know what you mean! My mom was really petite and, while pregant with me, her stomach looked huge. People always asked if she was carrying twins.

[gypsy_nicky]

"Thin will always be in"

[40 Fonzarelli]

Is a size 14 considered huge?

[Chocolat]

Don't forget about size inflation as a factor, though.

 

I'm 5 ft 5. When I graduated from HS in 1986, I weighed 115 and wore a size 6. Now I'm ten pounds heavier at 125 and yesterday at the mall I bought two pairs of size 2 pants!!!!????

 

The joy of vanity sizing.

 

I graduated HS earlier than you did at 110 and a size 9. Now I am 125 and a 2 or 4.

[porter218]

Yeah, I hate stuff like that. My soon to be 14 yr old daughter is 5-9, 135. We are from a mixed race background and we have more ethnic body traits, so she has a round bottom, a tiny waist, and a growing bra size - much more curvy than her other 8th grade friends who obsess over staying at 100 pounds (granted they are shorter, but they are flatter all over too if you get my drift).

 

I hate it that she feels 'fat' around her friends even when her body fat percentage is low, and I hate it that when I take her to one store and she is a size 4 and another that shows her a size 6 she frets over the size difference! She is in no way overweight or unhealthy, but I'm afraid that pressure like the sort you see "size zero is hot" is going to drive her to the same extremes that I went through to be "skinny".

 

I worry about the same thing with my daughter when she gets to be that age. I am a slender build and always have been but my daughter(who is only almost 2 now) will not be built exactly the same I don't think. She has had curves from birth....and I am sure she will be slender but more of the Kim Kardashian ilk. All of this focus on silly numbers could hurt a young teen who doesn't understand yet that a beautiful body doesn't have to be exactly of one certain body type. Whatever your body naturally wants to be is where you should let it be.

[OceanGirl]

That is a great point. I weigh anywhere between 128-155 depending on how lazy I'm feeling and my diet within a given 4 month span. I'm 5 ft. 8.

 

At 128 I get lots of comments about how I'm too thin, need to eat ect. and I fit in a size 3 or a size 5 or a size 6 depending on the brand. But at 155 I still look slim-ish, not fat by any means, I fit in a size 9 or a size 10 but I even have a few size 4 that fit. I think a lot of women pick their favorie brand based on who has the smallest number on the tag that fits them.

 

I'm not sure why anyone feels it's socially appropriate to tell someone else how to comport themselves at the dinner table. I will admit I have wanted to feed or starve a guest depending on the situation.

 

Tink, you look gorgeous in your avatar pic

[KraftDinner]

Each inch of height adds 5 pounds... so someone who is 5'7" at 140 will have the same sort of shape (given they have the same body type of course) as someone who is 5'3" and 120.

 

Saying a 5'7" woman is heavy at 135 is ridiculous.

[stillafool]

I really feel society (american) has tilted to where it is ok to tell a girl to EAT MORE or GAIN SOME WEIGHT. Seriously, that is rude and disrespectful and I should be able to go up to random women and tell them to eat LESS and LOSE weight.

 

Size zero and smaller women look really hot. I realize at different places sizes are different. But recently my gf was getting measured for a brides maid dress by FAT women and she was there with her friend the BRIDE who is a bigger size then her. And when it turned out my gf was smaller then their size zero the women sad something nasty like "you need to eat more" and my gf's friend mad some face or something. It's bs that hot women have to put up with this crap from fatter less attractive women who think its acceptable to tell women to EAT MORE and ect...

 

I feel for your gf as I always went through the same treatment. People don't understand how hurtful it is when thinner women (who aren't trying to be thin but just are) are told they need to eat more, are called a skinny biotch, etc. I would never ever say to someone you need to eat less and lose some weight. That is so rude.

[Star Gazer]

Weight can really be deceiving, as can clothing sizes. We all know this.

 

I'm the perfect example. I'm 7 pounds heavier than I was just a month ago, and yet I'm a pants size smaller (pants I already had in two different sizes).

 

There's also a big difference between being thin and FIT and just being a rail, just as there is being a bigger gal who's toned versus just inactive and chubby.

[theBrokenMuse]

All of this focus on silly numbers could hurt a young teen who doesn't understand yet that a beautiful body doesn't have to be exactly of one certain body type. Whatever your body naturally wants to be is where you should let it be.

 

It's starting much younger than teens or even pre-teens now. Little girls are picking up on mommy's body issues even as young as five years old and formulating ideas about dieting... and I believe the last article I read on the subject stated that girls as young as nine are being admitted to the hospital with anorexia but given our culture's preoccupation with weight I expect to see than number drop even lower soon.

 

It's so angering as a mother to know that kids lives are being this impacted by this obsessive crap. It pisses me off enough that grown women spend their lives feeling like they are never good enough as they are but now we have nine year olds that think it's better to starve themselves than gain a pound? Ugh. It makes me want to kick something.

[Knittress]

Notice how it's all the thin women so opening sharing their weight and height? It's only adding to the false perception that only small-numbered women are attractive. Whatevs! I'm 5'8", 160 pounds, I've posed naked in an open art gallery and looked damn good.

 

And that "eat a sandwich" woman was just a bitch.